New King Crimson drummer
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Topic: New King Crimson drummer
Posted By: rileydog22
Subject: New King Crimson drummer
Date Posted: October 17 2007 at 19:44
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Flower Kings drummer Zoltan Csörsz will join King Crimson for their upcoming (1-2 years away) album(s)/tour(s). The news can be found in http://www.dprp.net/specials/2007_stolt/ - this interview with Roine Stolt. From the interview:
MARTIEN: Zoltan, the “old” drummer” has returned, why? ROINE: Why not? Ha ha…. I think that if I will tell the whole story this will be too complicated for the fans, so I will give you the short version. Let’s say that Marcus who played on Paradox Hotel could not commit to this new recording as he had other things to do…. We had already booked the studio so we said, let’s try and ask Zoltan and he said without further ado, I will do it. However during the upcoming tour we will have another drummer as Zoltan has commitments with King Crimson, so there you go. This means that Zoltan will join Pat Mastellotto, Robert Fripp, Adrien Belew, and Tony Levin to form the new incarnation of King Crimson. -------------   |
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Posted By: Walker
Date Posted: October 17 2007 at 19:55
I thought I read somewhere that Pat M. would be joining The Flower Kings. So basically they are exchanging drummers? 
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Posted By: rileydog22
Date Posted: October 17 2007 at 19:56
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No. Pat will still be in King Crimson.
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Posted By: Shakespeare
Date Posted: October 17 2007 at 20:01
| I love when Crimso do the dual percussion trick. |
Posted By: Walker
Date Posted: October 17 2007 at 20:07
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What about this?
http://www.progarchives.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=41771 - http://www.progarchives.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=41771
Does anyone know what's going on here? very confusing!
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Posted By: rileydog22
Date Posted: October 17 2007 at 20:08
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Yes, Pat sat in with the band for a while. But now both of them will be performing in King Crimson.
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Posted By: Walker
Date Posted: October 17 2007 at 20:13
| Too bad for TFK.. they lost not one, not two, but three great drummers just since the last studio album! .... |
Posted By: E-Dub
Date Posted: October 17 2007 at 21:56
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I say bring in Manu Katché to The Flower Kings. The man would be killer to that band. Inside Out says that Pat will be joining The Flower Kings on this tour. E ------------- 
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Posted By: superprog
Date Posted: October 17 2007 at 22:22
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yeah 2 drummers is great esp when you play live, looks awesome sounds awesome. would be a hoot if these drummers got on board the Crim xpress:
John McEntire (Tortoise)
John Herndon (Tortoise)
Jarle (Suprsilent)
Alex Cline
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Posted By: el böthy
Date Posted: October 17 2007 at 22:43
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SWEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEET!!!!! Thats excellent news!!!!!
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Posted By: Floydian42
Date Posted: October 17 2007 at 23:28
| I always loved the two drummer thing. Adds more intensity to a track! |
Posted By: Man Overboard
Date Posted: October 18 2007 at 00:26
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Holy hell. I've been dreaming of Zoltan with King Crimson for -years-. I don't care what I have to sacrifice, I WILL be seeing this lineup. Even if I have to donate my heart to John Wetton after his triple bypass! ------------- https://soundcloud.com/erin-susan-jennings" rel="nofollow - Bedroom guitarist". Composer, Arranger, Producer. Perfection may not exist, but I may still choose to serve Perfection. Commissions considered. |
Posted By: KoS
Date Posted: October 18 2007 at 00:52
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Man Overboard wrote:Posted By: Harry Hood
Date Posted: October 18 2007 at 02:19
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Perhaps this exchange of drummers will result in a tour together? They could encore with all nine of them together for an overblown rendition of Red.  ------------- 
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Posted By: MikeEnRegalia
Date Posted: October 18 2007 at 03:09
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TFK + KC? That's like Water + Fire ...
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Posted By: jmcdaniel_ee
Date Posted: October 18 2007 at 09:07
| Does Zoltan by any chance have a hidden talent for singing or writing lyrics? |
Posted By: CaincelaOreinim
Date Posted: October 18 2007 at 15:46
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Uhm, unless there's confirmation soon...I feel like Roine, was just being Roine and making a tongue-in-cheek joke...and it totally got taken literally...but time will tell. I wouldn't mind hearing Zoltan in Crimson; although, I'm not too sure how much the double drummer thing will benefit them again... |
Posted By: Vibrationbaby
Date Posted: October 18 2007 at 15:56
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I sort of agree. It took me a while to get used to Pat and now ths. ------------- |
Posted By: CaincelaOreinim
Date Posted: October 18 2007 at 15:57
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http://www.dgmlive.com/guestbook_post.htm - Post an entry re: Flower King Drummer in KC
Roine also said: re: Flower King Drummer in KC
Roine cleared this up on FTK Yahoo Group: Pat Mastelotto will guest TFK on the nov tour . Pat Mastelotto is still in King Crimson. I have not heard and think not that KC will need another or new drummer . That said we’re of course happy if Pat will find time outside his Crimson commitments to do other TFK gig next year but nothing signed . And the Zoltan / KC thing must be en error . That's settled, end of thread. |
Posted By: Harry Hood
Date Posted: October 18 2007 at 16:35
heartbroken 
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Posted By: rileydog22
Date Posted: October 18 2007 at 23:38
Well, Pat had previously confirmed a second percussionist in King Crimson:
But I guess it isn't that dude from the Flower Kings. Damn symphonic groups, always trying to pull the wool over our eyes... ------------- |
Posted By: Vibrationbaby
Date Posted: October 19 2007 at 14:49
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I wish Bob would bring in a violin player, sax player or multi-instrumentalist. I don`t know if I could handle another album with him and Adrian just blasting away. Maybe even another vocalist. Bob has to make Crimson more interesting at this point.
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Posted By: CaincelaOreinim
Date Posted: October 19 2007 at 15:09
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I think I concur...but I feel like all that's been done with them (in his eyes)...chances are he's just going to stick the course and write more of the same...? I'm thinking with the second drummer though, it might not be a drummer per se, more like what KTU's doing?...Time will tell... |
Posted By: rileydog22
Date Posted: October 19 2007 at 15:11
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It's definitely a drummer; read the above quote. King Crimson has yet to produce an uninteresting album, and I don't think they're gonna start with this next one. ------------- |
Posted By: Vibrationbaby
Date Posted: October 19 2007 at 16:30
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I just think that it would be an exciting break with some new instrument. I mean, he was doing this in the 70s all the way up until Red. I do think they are getting a bit stale. I just hope Bob doesn`t go senile. ------------- |
Posted By: Zitro
Date Posted: October 19 2007 at 18:18
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Oh man, I was getting excited, but it's just a joke. Zoltan is one of the best drummers I have ever heard, at least on the studio albums. The jazzy drumming in "Unfold The Future" from The Flower Kings is outstanding and his drumming in the new album is magnificent as well (if a bit more restrained) |
Posted By: sigod
Date Posted: October 20 2007 at 08:03
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I bet the second drummer is Danny Carey from Tool.
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Posted By: Corujolio
Date Posted: October 20 2007 at 11:24
It would be AWESOME
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Posted By: Harry Hood
Date Posted: October 20 2007 at 17:25
All are irrelevant. What's next, "bring back the mellotron"? King Crimson is not a nostalgia act. -------------
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Posted By: CaincelaOreinim
Date Posted: October 20 2007 at 18:14
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Well I wasn't going to say it, but I'm glad you did HH...btw, there's a new video interview up with Pat, and he says the new drummer is British, and not Bruford...I'm stumped as my guesses (Rieflin, Bozzio, or Morrota) aren't British...according to that ever credible source Wikipedia... |
Posted By: rileydog22
Date Posted: October 20 2007 at 18:24
Agreed. There was a bit of mellotron on THraK, btw. ------------- |
Posted By: Man Overboard
Date Posted: October 20 2007 at 20:43
Roland guitar synth 'tron, on a song mocking the "old dinosaurs" of music  ------------- https://soundcloud.com/erin-susan-jennings" rel="nofollow - Bedroom guitarist". Composer, Arranger, Producer. Perfection may not exist, but I may still choose to serve Perfection. Commissions considered. |
Posted By: rileydog22
Date Posted: October 20 2007 at 20:46
No sir! They used the original ItCotCK 'tron. Look it up. ------------- |
Posted By: Man Overboard
Date Posted: October 20 2007 at 22:28
I suppose so! But live, it's synth guitar... strangely, I'm much more familiar with their live output, wonder why? ------------- https://soundcloud.com/erin-susan-jennings" rel="nofollow - Bedroom guitarist". Composer, Arranger, Producer. Perfection may not exist, but I may still choose to serve Perfection. Commissions considered. |
Posted By: rileydog22
Date Posted: October 20 2007 at 22:29
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I listen to live KC more than studio KC as well, but to say that they haven't returned to the mellotron is factually inaccurate.
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Posted By: Dim
Date Posted: October 20 2007 at 22:32
Lets see that again...
Jake
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Posted By: rileydog22
Date Posted: October 20 2007 at 22:33
ZOMG I MADE A SINGLE TYPO! That's almost as bad as butchering the English language in every post I make! Oh wait, no it isn't. My bad. ------------- |
Posted By: Dim
Date Posted: October 20 2007 at 22:37
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hoo dus tat? -------------
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Posted By: rileydog22
Date Posted: October 20 2007 at 22:39
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In a different interview, Pat stated that the new percussionist is British. That rules out Jerry Marotta and Eric Slick. I'm baffled. ------------- |
Posted By: Dim
Date Posted: October 20 2007 at 22:40
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Wow, theres a couple of those, you know, British drummers. -------------
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Posted By: Shakespeare
Date Posted: October 20 2007 at 22:46
Hey, that's just a Shakespearian wannabee pwn. |
Posted By: Harry Hood
Date Posted: October 20 2007 at 23:35
Jamie Muir, possibly?  -------------
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Posted By: Fuzzy OneThree
Date Posted: October 21 2007 at 11:15
| I am happy to hear they are heading towards a new album/tour. I would die to see them live. |
Posted By: Vibrationbaby
Date Posted: October 22 2007 at 10:40
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Posted By: Badabec
Date Posted: November 04 2007 at 05:34
How about Phil Collins?  No, seriously, I hope that they will bring out their new album in 2008. Unfortunately it seems that they are only going to play in America.  ------------- Mesmo a tristeza da gente era mais bela E além disso se via da janela Um cantinho de céu e o Redentor - Antônio Carlos Jobim, Toquinho & Vinícius de Moraes - Carta ao Tom 74 |
Posted By: Vibrationbaby
Date Posted: November 12 2007 at 10:56
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I heard from a friend in the idustry that it might be Gavin Harrison from Pourcupine Tree nothing official but he also says that they definitely will have an additional drummer.
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Posted By: Tony R
Date Posted: November 12 2007 at 11:02
This has been "officially denied" on the PT forum by the forum Admin guy Simon who also produces the PT Fanzine. When I say "official" I mean that he has the band's ear so to speak. |
Posted By: Vibrationbaby
Date Posted: November 12 2007 at 11:10
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The drama continues. Trilok Gurtu. Now that would be interesting except he would blow Pat away.
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Posted By: Vibrationbaby
Date Posted: November 20 2007 at 13:18
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Posted By: N Ellingworth
Date Posted: November 20 2007 at 13:32
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I did, as I thought that Gavin Harrison was one of the few current British drummers who is good enough to play for King Crimson and given that both Robert Fripp and Adrian Belew have both worked with PT they'd both be well aware of his talents. |
Posted By: Man Overboard
Date Posted: November 21 2007 at 01:26
Well, they blew it. ------------- https://soundcloud.com/erin-susan-jennings" rel="nofollow - Bedroom guitarist". Composer, Arranger, Producer. Perfection may not exist, but I may still choose to serve Perfection. Commissions considered. |
Posted By: StyLaZyn
Date Posted: November 21 2007 at 11:18
Typical official denial until an official announcement is made to substanitate the rumor?  ------------- 
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