Crimson Frontman
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Topic: Crimson Frontman
Posted By: Ripples
Subject: Crimson Frontman
Date Posted: September 13 2007 at 12:38
| A really hard choice because they were all incredible and unique. |
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Posted By: febus
Date Posted: September 13 2007 at 12:41
Easy!! WETTON  with LAKE behind ......and BELEW way...way behind
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Posted By: convocation
Date Posted: September 13 2007 at 12:42
| Exactly, they were all unique and talented. Difficult indeed. But I cast my lot with Belew. |
Posted By: The Doctor
Date Posted: September 13 2007 at 12:44
I picked Wetton, but ya know, Crimson has had two other frontmen that you failed to list: Haskell and Burrell, both of whom I liked as well.  I would list them as follows:
1. Wetton
2. Lake
3. Haskell
4. Burrell
5. Belew ------------- I can understand your anger at me, but what did the horse I rode in on ever do to you? |
Posted By: Raff
Date Posted: September 13 2007 at 12:46
What about using the search function sometimes? There are about 100 polls on the same topic around ....Anyway, for me, Lake, Wetton and Belew in that order. Burrell wasn't too bad, but Haskell was just unspeakable.  |
Posted By: Easy Money
Date Posted: September 13 2007 at 13:04
| Belew was cool for Crimson's "new wave" period, but I find it hard to believe he is still in the band. He seems like a nice guy, and he is very talented, but he just doesn't fit with the whole Crimson sturm n drang bit. |
Posted By: fuxi
Date Posted: September 13 2007 at 13:17
| Lake is very good on the first album, and Wetton is my favourite Crimson vocalist, but I've never seen them live. I HAVE seen the double trio with Belew at the helm, and their concert tour DVD has only confirmed my opinion that Belew is a very likeable artist. O.K., he DOES get on your nerves sometimes, but he's an excellent frontman, he plays fantastic guitar, and he's even (co-)written some of the most sensitive ever KC ballads, e.g. "One Time" and "Walking on Air". So it's Belew for me! |
Posted By: laplace
Date Posted: September 13 2007 at 13:49
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Wetton, of course, for his overlookable "instrumental" muffled singing and bass fury. I think that although I appreciate Belew's guitar techniques, he tries too hard to sing, his lyrics are stupid and I don't care about vocals in crimso... and Greg Lake is literally my least favourite prog musician, and he single-handedly ruins most of ITCOTCK for me, not to mention the music of ELP.
------------- FREEDOM OF SPEECH GO TO HELL |
Posted By: ProgBagel
Date Posted: September 13 2007 at 16:06
| I like Lake the most cause of his voice...Belew certainly took Crimson's frotman position and did the best job though... |
Posted By: jimidom
Date Posted: September 13 2007 at 16:18
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Wetton! ------------- "The music business is a cruel and shallow money trench, a long plastic hallway where thieves and pimps run free, and good men die like dogs. There's also a negative side." - HST |
Posted By: E-Dub
Date Posted: September 13 2007 at 16:19
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I'll go with Wetton; however, Belew isn't too bad. The Power To Believe is still my favorite. E ------------- 
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Posted By: sircosick
Date Posted: September 13 2007 at 16:27
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As a frontman? No contest against Belew.
------------- The best you can is good enough... |
Posted By: KoS
Date Posted: September 13 2007 at 16:29
| Belew! |
Posted By: Dean
Date Posted: September 13 2007 at 16:30
Odd one. Epitath is my favorite KC song, Power To Believe is probably my favorite KC album, but Wetton is my favorite KC singerist. ------------- What? |
Posted By: Sckxyss
Date Posted: September 13 2007 at 16:33
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Wetton, but mostly only for his awesome bass playing |
Posted By: el böthy
Date Posted: September 13 2007 at 16:35
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None of them is a frontman... Gabriel is a frontman, Plant is a frontman, Dickinson is a frontman... these are musicians that sing, not frontmans
------------- "You want me to play what, Robert?" 
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Posted By: sircosick
Date Posted: September 13 2007 at 16:38
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^ Dude, your mentions are showmen...... a frontman is a dude who is just able to face the people while on stage.
------------- The best you can is good enough... |
Posted By: rileydog22
Date Posted: September 13 2007 at 16:50
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Who do I like? All of them.
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Posted By: el böthy
Date Posted: September 13 2007 at 16:56
Still, the concept of frontman is a singer... these are bass and guitar players that sing... with the exception of Lake, he really is a singer ------------- "You want me to play what, Robert?"
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sircosick wrote:Posted By: sircosick
Date Posted: September 13 2007 at 16:59
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^ In that case, I find Belew or Wetton way more worthy of be called singers than Lake. OF course that's just me.....
------------- The best you can is good enough... |
Posted By: Ripples
Date Posted: September 13 2007 at 16:59
Who do you like most? |
Posted By: Dim
Date Posted: September 13 2007 at 17:53
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I guess Wetton, Lakes voice is boring, and Belews voice reminds me of a trumpet... ------------- 
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Posted By: Dean
Date Posted: September 13 2007 at 17:56
I hadn't thought about it, but you come to mention it...  ------------- What? |
Posted By: puma
Date Posted: September 13 2007 at 19:05
| Mel Collins was the best Crimson frontman |
Posted By: Zargus
Date Posted: September 13 2007 at 19:17
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I seen some live videos from the Belew era and he was a very good frontman no doubt the best KC ever hade. ------------- 
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Posted By: Harry Hood
Date Posted: September 13 2007 at 19:22
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Belew is the best choice. Not only is he a dynamic stage presence, but despite being the frontman, he leaves plenty of room for the other members to contribute equally. Wetton went on to be the frontman for Asia, Greg Lake went on to continue being... Greg Lake, but Belew went on to lead Crimson through twenty years of their best material yet. No more pity votes for Lake please, he doesn't deserve them. ------------- 
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Posted By: rileydog22
Date Posted: September 13 2007 at 19:29
That's not the poll question. ------------- |
Posted By: Floydian42
Date Posted: September 13 2007 at 20:12
| Belew, as someone on this site (Can't remember who) said, he brought fun to band out of doing the most complicated stuff ever. (Pretty much) |
Posted By: el böthy
Date Posted: September 13 2007 at 20:17
It´s ok, all that really matters is I was right  ------------- "You want me to play what, Robert?"
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Posted By: sircosick
Date Posted: September 13 2007 at 20:52
 I think I said in the case if your statement were right. For me a frontman is not just a singer; maybe all the singers are frontmen, but not all frontmen are singers. Then, how come you defined frontman as a singer?? ------------- The best you can is good enough... |
Posted By: Malve87
Date Posted: September 14 2007 at 07:52
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What a difficult choice here... Well to me Wetton is the one, because somehow seems the person to fit perfectly in the Crimson context, maybe for his voice, maybe for his charismatic figure, I don't know it's one of those instinctive kind of reply one might give...anyway Belew is close behind him, for sure.
P.S. where's Jamie Muir??? ------------- ] 
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Posted By: Norbert
Date Posted: September 14 2007 at 08:26
| John Wetton for me. |
Posted By: Abstrakt
Date Posted: September 14 2007 at 11:18
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I voted for Wetton.
Ealy KC with Lake was great, KC with Wetton was totally Awesome, KC with Belew was pretty meh-ish most of the time, but not without it's awesome songs here and there!
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Posted By: cuncuna
Date Posted: September 14 2007 at 11:24
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Belew; Wetton as a very close second fave. ------------- ¡Beware of the Bee! |
Posted By: puma
Date Posted: September 14 2007 at 13:46
| uhh....Boz Burrell? I really like him |
Posted By: P.H.P.
Date Posted: September 14 2007 at 14:16
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Hm, for me it's Lake...very good bass player, very good singer, fits perfectly with the original idea behind the band of king crimson. Wetton is great bass player, very good singer, but...his voice isn't the best for prog rock, and in this case for king crimson, IMO Belew, well I'm not gonna talk about him hahah |
Posted By: el böthy
Date Posted: September 14 2007 at 16:02
Then who is the frontman from Liquid Tension Experiment? or Maneige, or MIA...? ------------- "You want me to play what, Robert?"
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Posted By: Teh_Slippermenz
Date Posted: September 14 2007 at 16:50
| John Wetton, hands down. |
Posted By: sircosick
Date Posted: September 14 2007 at 18:33
They simply have not frontman  ------------- The best you can is good enough... |
Posted By: BaldFriede
Date Posted: September 14 2007 at 18:59
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King Crimson never really had a frontman.
-------------  BaldJean and I; I am the one in blue. |
Posted By: sircosick
Date Posted: September 14 2007 at 19:58
------------- The best you can is good enough... |
Posted By: rileydog22
Date Posted: September 14 2007 at 20:53
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I would call Belew a frontman, but I would hesitate to refer to either of the others with the term.
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Posted By: Evandro Martini
Date Posted: September 14 2007 at 20:59
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Wetton was a good vocalist and a better bassist, great at improvising, but I have to choose Lake. Hearing his voice in the first Crimson albums (my favourite ones from all the band's career) is like heaven to me
------------- "You’ll never make any money playing music that people can’t sing.” Keith Emerson's father |
Posted By: rushfan4
Date Posted: September 14 2007 at 21:13
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Jon Anderson on Lizard. ------------- 
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Posted By: rileydog22
Date Posted: September 14 2007 at 21:30
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...wasn't a frontman by any definition of the word.
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Posted By: Nightfly
Date Posted: September 15 2007 at 07:32
| Belew. |
Posted By: Leningrad
Date Posted: September 15 2007 at 21:12
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Posted By: Dean
Date Posted: September 15 2007 at 21:39
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^ It's Belew skies. no, it's a Wett one ------------- What? |
Posted By: The Doctor
Date Posted: September 15 2007 at 21:44
Errrrr...uh....I think it's a lake.  ------------- I can understand your anger at me, but what did the horse I rode in on ever do to you? |
Posted By: Dean
Date Posted: September 15 2007 at 21:45
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D'oh ------------- What? |
Posted By: laplace
Date Posted: September 15 2007 at 22:22
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they don't need a frontman. they have a chairman. (in the spirit of tenuous punning) ------------- FREEDOM OF SPEECH GO TO HELL |
Posted By: rileydog22
Date Posted: September 16 2007 at 00:17
Lolz! ------------- |
Posted By: Lady In Black
Date Posted: September 16 2007 at 12:50
I confirm. I love Wetton and Like voice. Belew is a great musician but with this voice... ------------- It's dark... I've fear... I have strong pains... A serpent is being born... That badly I did, I? |
Posted By: progadicto
Date Posted: September 16 2007 at 16:17
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Belew for me... gave Crimson new energies during 80's and 90's and he's very innovative and creative... Very inffluential to KC career even more than Wetton or Lake... ------------- ... E N E L B U N K E R... |
Posted By: Dim
Date Posted: September 16 2007 at 18:32
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Wettons voice on exiles is so digusting I can barely pay atention to the other aspects fo the song! As for musicianship, I think Wettons bass did a lot more for KC than Belews guitar! -------------
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Posted By: rileydog22
Date Posted: September 16 2007 at 21:54
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I think Belew did something quite understated for King Crimson in 1981 that King Crimson REALLY REALLY needed at the time: he added some FUN. Think about it: Robert Fripp and Bill Bruford are two of the most meticulous guys in rock (though Bruford is no longer in rock), and T-Lev is an incredible musical chameleon who plays whatever best fits the music around him. Toss in a love of absurdly complex and constantly changing time signatures and you have a recipe for some really boring and tedious music. Belew added a sense of humor and a good bit of energy to a band that could have quite easily become a poster child for boring and cliche prog rock.
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Posted By: Teh_Slippermenz
Date Posted: September 17 2007 at 03:41
| ...As exemplified in the very bizarre Elephant Talk............................ |
Posted By: Raff
Date Posted: September 17 2007 at 04:02
Very well said!  I personally think Belew is a great singer, even though I realise his style can be an acquired taste for someone. On the other hand, I've never been a big fan of Wetton's vocals, but I have to admit he was the perfect choice for KC in those years. |
Posted By: P.H.P.
Date Posted: September 17 2007 at 19:03
Yeah he could have some fun, but out of king crimson's music! I think with Belew on king crimson it's another totally different band, not prog anymore, and... what's "Boring and Cliche prog rock"??, you mean prog bands that went for the mainstream? or prog bands that continued doing what they think was fine, and at the same time avoiding any monetary conditioning for their music? because I find the 80's King crimson to be near to what you say, and yes they went mainstream, and I really don't find that what you say in any truly prog rock band, what are you listening to? |
Posted By: rileydog22
Date Posted: September 17 2007 at 22:34
I mean the "boring and cliche prog rock" that critics of prog rock tend to write off most of the genre as. ------------- |
Posted By: endlessepic
Date Posted: September 18 2007 at 10:14
| Lake by far. That first album is awesome. His voice really was just superior. |
Posted By: prog4evr
Date Posted: September 18 2007 at 21:35
| Belew because his interplay with Frippertronics was classic, especially on Discipline and Beat. So sweet when two excellent guitarists intertwine well with each other... |
Posted By: rileydog22
Date Posted: September 18 2007 at 21:41
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I don't think there's a single note of Frippertronics on either of those albums.
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Posted By: Okocha
Date Posted: September 19 2007 at 17:00
| Greg Lake |