Robbery, Assault and Battery ?
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Topic: Robbery, Assault and Battery ?
Posted By: Yorkie X
Subject: Robbery, Assault and Battery ?
Date Posted: September 06 2007 at 07:20
seriously I don't know if this a bad song , I don't think its a good song though
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Posted By: zbida
Date Posted: September 06 2007 at 07:38
I can help you. If it isn't a bad song (better: you're not sure), it's surely a good one.
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Posted By: LeInsomniac
Date Posted: September 06 2007 at 08:17
I like it very much; funny and well written.
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Posted By: The Letter M
Date Posted: September 06 2007 at 08:28
It's not a bad song OR a good song. It's a GREAT song. The middle section in 13/8 with the keyboard solo is amazing, while the verses/choruses are clever and entertaining, an attempt at Gabriel's humoristic lyrical content from when he was in the band.
-Marc.
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Posted By: Raff
Date Posted: September 06 2007 at 08:31
I don't know why, but I've always had a thing for this song. Perhaps it's not really good, but it sure is FUN - which is much more than can be said for "More Fool Me" or "Your Own Special Way" .
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Posted By: cuncuna
Date Posted: September 06 2007 at 08:36
A good song from a very good album. Great album, in fact.
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Posted By: Nigel66
Date Posted: September 06 2007 at 08:38
It's a good song but A Trick Of The Tail is such a strong album that it is vying with the title track to be the least good song on the album.
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Posted By: iguana
Date Posted: September 06 2007 at 08:38
listened to the live version on “seconds out“ the other day. and just
after the first ARP-solo, when hackett's guitar sneaks in over that
mellotron crescendo with the 13/8-beat, i thought “whoa, if anyone
asked me, i'd play him this part for an epitomy of 70's prog rock!“
apart from that, the song is a lot of fun. not early GENESIS's finest, but
a good song
nonetheless!
R.I.P. luciano. god bless.
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Posted By: fuxi
Date Posted: September 06 2007 at 09:20
Not a good song, but a superb instrumental middle section!
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Posted By: Bj-1
Date Posted: September 06 2007 at 09:22
Love it, although it's not the best cut from ATOTT. It is one of my personal favorites though.
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Posted By: Melomaniac
Date Posted: September 06 2007 at 10:02
I always considered this song to be a Collins' era version of songs like Harold The Barrel and The Battle of Epping Forest, only I like this one a whole lot more.
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Posted By: Chicapah
Date Posted: September 06 2007 at 10:23
Tony shines on the middle instrumental section. The song sorta plods along and then WOW! The whole track turns into a monster. Worked very well live, too.
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Posted By: ProgBagel
Date Posted: September 06 2007 at 10:26
I don't know....more on the positive side so I guess a good one, a middle option would help.
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Posted By: scandosch
Date Posted: September 06 2007 at 10:56
I remember back in 1977 not having bought the two albums sung by PHil Collins, as I was convinced that nobody could sing for Genesis if not PG. Well, I happened to see the video (yes, even if MTV wasn't born yet!) of Robbery from the middle section, hence the keyboard solo. I was in exstasy and wondering "who the hell is this band". Then Phil singing comes in...The next thing I remember is me junping on a train to go in the city and buy "Trick" and "Wind" right away. YES, a monster song!!!
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Posted By: jimidom
Date Posted: September 06 2007 at 11:32
Excellent song! It might have even been the first Genesis video I ever saw.
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Posted By: ghost_of_morphy
Date Posted: September 06 2007 at 12:48
It's a bad song with a nice ending!
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Posted By: Nightfly
Date Posted: September 06 2007 at 15:57
fuxi wrote:
Not a good song, but a superb instrumental middle section! |
Agreed the mid section is brilliant and the song would be pretty average without it.
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Posted By: chopper
Date Posted: September 06 2007 at 15:59
Well, it's better than "Your own special way" and the ending is good, but I find this style of Collins a bit annoying, so I normally skip over it.
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Posted By: JesusisLord
Date Posted: September 06 2007 at 16:53
a little poppy, a little cheesy, but a good song nonetheless... Maybe in the spirit of Harold and his barrell !!!
Anyway, I do enjoy Banks run on the keyboards
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Posted By: White Shadow
Date Posted: September 06 2007 at 18:28
I enjoy it very much.
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Posted By: Peter
Date Posted: September 06 2007 at 18:57
Terriffic song -- i've always counted it among my favourites from the Collins-fronted era.
Great fun -- an entertaining story, well-crafted lyrics, a jaunty tune, a good vocal performance, and some top-notch instrumental work from Banks and the band. 
The Genesis boys still "had it' at that juncture -- very much so! 
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Posted By: Dean
Date Posted: September 06 2007 at 19:03
I don't understand why Phil Collins sung it in mockney when he's practically a cockney anyway, I guess he thought he was reprising his Artful Dodger role. The middle instrumental break? yeah, well it's Genesis, it's what they were good at, but if doesn't matter how much sugar you put on a cow-pat, it's still manure.
Anywho, much rather listen to There Goes a Tenner by Kate Bush.
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Posted By: Zargus
Date Posted: September 06 2007 at 19:21
Horible, the worst song on the otherwise good Trick of the tail album. I voted bad song. 
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Posted By: Arsillus
Date Posted: September 06 2007 at 20:23
Great song! One of the best cuts from that album. But then again, the whole album pwns.
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Posted By: raindance2007
Date Posted: September 06 2007 at 23:22
very good song
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Posted By: razifa
Date Posted: September 06 2007 at 23:44
Very bad song!!! Insipid! Reptitive, soulless, boring, etc.... etc.... etc....
I can't stand it!!!
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Posted By: Greg W
Date Posted: September 06 2007 at 23:49
I wouldnt call it a masterpiece, but I like it.
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Posted By: ProgShine
Date Posted: September 07 2007 at 01:43
I could say it's a hell of a good song 
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Posted By: progadicto
Date Posted: September 08 2007 at 21:24
Just a good song... nothing more, nothing less...
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Posted By: Tapfret
Date Posted: September 08 2007 at 22:54
razifa wrote:
Very bad song!!! Insipid! Reptitive, soulless, boring, etc.... etc.... etc....
I can't stand it!!! |
I guess everyone is entitled to their own opinion...no matter how wrong. 
It is a perfectly acceptable part of the great Genesis classics.
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Posted By: Malve87
Date Posted: September 09 2007 at 15:52
Oh man, I just hate that song...
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Posted By: chopper
Date Posted: September 09 2007 at 16:30
darqdean wrote:
I don't understand why Phil Collins sung it in mockney when he's practically a cockney anyway, I guess he thought he was reprising his Artful Dodger role. The middle instrumental break? yeah, well it's Genesis, it's what they were good at, but if doesn't matter how much sugar you put on a cow-pat, it's still manure.
Anywho, much rather listen to There Goes a Tenner by Kate Bush. |
Brilliant, just brilliant Dean.
I agree with you about Kate Bush, although I must admit a find that song a teensy bit embarrassing as well.
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Posted By: moreitsythanyou
Date Posted: September 09 2007 at 16:32
It's a good song and fun to listen to. I don't see anything wrong with it. In fact, I quite like it.
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Posted By: Blacksword
Date Posted: September 10 2007 at 09:16
Neither good or bad. It sits somewhere in the middle. The instrumental sections show just how good Genesis could be at the time, and the verses show just how bad they could be.
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Posted By: Syzygy
Date Posted: September 10 2007 at 18:04
A good song. When Genesis tried comedy songs for light relief they generally fell a bit flat, but this one actually works pretty well. Not a classic, but it fits in nicely with the rest of ATOTT and the instrumental break, as others have already pointed out, is superb. And it's at least 8 zillion times better than All In A Mouse's Night - mind you, the same could be said for Wannabe by The Spice Girls.
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I've got my doubts about how much to contribute
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Posted By: DaysEnd
Date Posted: September 11 2007 at 17:05
I quite like it myself. The instrumental break is one of my favorites on the album. The only issue I have with it is that Phil is no Peter, so the characters seem a bit muffled together and indistinguishable. I still think it's a better effort than Squonk or the title track, though.
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Posted By: Dim
Date Posted: September 11 2007 at 17:52
progadicto wrote:
Just a good song... nothing more, nothing less... |
Same here, it would be much better but, the instrumental druming is so goad awful I can barely get passed it.
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Posted By: Dr. Occulator
Date Posted: September 11 2007 at 20:05
the only thing good about it is the catchy title.
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Posted By: Badabec
Date Posted: September 12 2007 at 17:22
Definately a great song!
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Posted By: rushfan4
Date Posted: October 12 2007 at 11:15
I am listening to this song again as I type and have decided that I really like it. I had marked the A Good Song button when this poll was originally created but upon further listening I have decided that I really do like this song. Oh well, for what it is worth I just thought I would share this bit of useless information.
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Posted By: cynthiasmallet
Date Posted: October 12 2007 at 11:38
This song is a musical benchmark- this is the first unlistenable Collins style right wing pop song by Genesis. Bask in it's mediocrity.
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Posted By: Bastille Dude
Date Posted: October 12 2007 at 11:58
Awesome song! "Whatever" Collins bashers.
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Posted By: Moogtron III
Date Posted: October 12 2007 at 13:06
Great melody, superb middle piece, harmonies are good, nice musical inventions, lively, some parts are quite humorous... I voted yes, as you can tell.
Actually, all the songs on A Trick Of The Tail have a lot of quality in them.
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Posted By: chessman
Date Posted: October 12 2007 at 19:32
Without a doubt, it's a good song, but then 'A Trick Of The Tail' is my second favourite Genesis album, after 'The Lamb'.
Superb album, without any weak songs on it. 
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Posted By: dralan
Date Posted: October 12 2007 at 20:05
Not a bad song; I do especially like the middle instrumental section. In retrospect I think we can see Collins' goofy side start coming out, epitomized in songs like 'Who Dunnit?'.
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Posted By: endlessepic
Date Posted: October 13 2007 at 01:42
The song sounds trivial at the start but really launches into one of Genesis' best musical moments. I love that album!!!
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Posted By: AnthemOne
Date Posted: October 13 2007 at 09:36
Great song!!! As many have mentioned, the section in 13/8 is typical Genesis and definitely what makes them one of my favorite's. The Seconds Out version is also great, Chester makes the first section (under the vocals) so interesting with his use of "ghost strokes"!!!
And lastly, the outro section capps it all off. Maybe not one of their best but it "is" among the better from the post PG era......IMHO!
Anthony
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