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Topic: Help Decide the Whistler's Future...The Revenge
Posted By: The Whistler
Subject: Help Decide the Whistler's Future...The Revenge
Date Posted: September 05 2007 at 03:19
No, amazingly enough, this is NOT about what albums I should buy now that my birthday's over...but Strange Days is lookin' pretty strong at this point.
 
See, I borrowed this Tull CD from the library...about a year ago or so. I kid you naught! It was the third CD from the 25th Anniversary set...or, uh, "something." Lotsa cool crap on that.
 
Look, my basic point is that NO ONE is capable of appreciating this CD like I am. Probably. And if they are, I don't want to think about it. YES, I've already copied the thing into the family iPod, but also, you have to think of the fines! Those fines dude, not even Jeffrey himself could afford them at this point.
 
However, and of course, I'm sure that there are others who can appreciate this CD and would want it from the library, perhaps some who've even not heard the Tull yet! Also, I do understand paying the fine is...ugh...the "right thing to do." Or at least returning it and starting a new account under a different name.
 
Or there's always the "panic" option...


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Posted By: kazansky
Date Posted: September 05 2007 at 03:36
how could other people enjoy the greatness of the cd if you keep it to yourself, dude? i thought you want as much as possible people to enjoy tull...

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Posted By: The Whistler
Date Posted: September 05 2007 at 03:41

Dude, the fine? TOTALLY not metal that...



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"There seem to be quite a large percentage of young American boys out there tonight. A long way from home, eh? Well so are we... Gotta stick together." -I. Anderson


Posted By: kazansky
Date Posted: September 05 2007 at 03:48
euh,well... how much is it aproximately...?

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Posted By: The Whistler
Date Posted: September 05 2007 at 03:51
Originally posted by kazansky kazansky wrote:

euh,well... how much is it aproximately...?
 
Well, let me put it this way: saying I checked it out a year ago might be a slight exageration (sic); saying I checked it out nine months ago is closer. And they charge more for "media" items...
 
Of course, if the Tull is back in circulation, I suppose I did the nobler thing. Besides, I can always let the account lapse, and see if that cancels the fine.


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"There seem to be quite a large percentage of young American boys out there tonight. A long way from home, eh? Well so are we... Gotta stick together." -I. Anderson


Posted By: kazansky
Date Posted: September 05 2007 at 04:08
better fined than accused stealing it isn't it...?

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The devil we blame our atrocities on is really just each one of us.


Posted By: The Whistler
Date Posted: September 05 2007 at 04:21
Well, I guess you and two other forum members can't be wrong...

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"There seem to be quite a large percentage of young American boys out there tonight. A long way from home, eh? Well so are we... Gotta stick together." -I. Anderson


Posted By: Man Erg
Date Posted: September 05 2007 at 04:26
Leave it on the library counter (or somewhere where a librarian will find it) when no-one is looking,then run away.' Ooh! We've been looking for this for ages,We wndered where it had gone...' they will probably say.
They will let you off completely...or catch you doing the deed on CCTV.
   

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Posted By: The Whistler
Date Posted: September 05 2007 at 04:37
Originally posted by Man Erg Man Erg wrote:

Leave it on the library counter (or somewhere where a librarian will find it) when no-one is looking,then run away.' Ooh! We've been looking for this for ages,We wndered where it had gone...' they will probably say.
They will let you off completely...or catch you doing the deed on CCTV.
   
 
I actually considered returning it, then coming back later and when they said, "Uh, sir, you have a six hundred dollar fine," I'd say, "What the crap are you talking about?!? I returned that ages ago!"
 
But I like that idea better, leave it somewhere in the library, and hope for the best! Yes...


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"There seem to be quite a large percentage of young American boys out there tonight. A long way from home, eh? Well so are we... Gotta stick together." -I. Anderson


Posted By: Vompatti
Date Posted: September 05 2007 at 07:20
Just put it on the shelf. The next time somebody tries to borrow it they will probably mark it as returned.


Posted By: Bastille Dude
Date Posted: September 05 2007 at 08:06
Ai Yai Yai! How'd you get yourself into that mess? Maybe you can offer to wash the library's windows or sweep the sidewalk or put books back on the shelves to work off your fine? Do I believe that would work? Probably not.

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Posted By: TheProgtologist
Date Posted: September 05 2007 at 09:54
Return it,they cannot charge you a years worth of fines.They can only charge you the cost of the item.

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Posted By: andu
Date Posted: September 05 2007 at 12:17
Is it your college lybrary? At the university I went one couldn't officially graduate without having all the business with the institution resolved - like returning everything borrowed from the library! Be careful.

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Posted By: Bastille Dude
Date Posted: September 05 2007 at 15:03
Originally posted by TheProgtologist TheProgtologist wrote:

Return it,they cannot charge you a years worth of fines.They can only charge you the cost of the item.


Jody is right, If the fine exceeds the cost of the CD they should only charge you for the cost of the CD. But return the CD and Pay the amount that equals the cost of the CD, Don't get railroaded into paying 9 months of finage! Because that would be bogus and excessive.


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Posted By: LeInsomniac
Date Posted: September 05 2007 at 15:06
TRASH IT!!!! SCREW THE FINE!!!!!!!! SCREW EVERYONE!!!!!!!!MUAHAHAHAHAHAHAHH!!!!


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Posted By: Evans
Date Posted: September 05 2007 at 15:16
Originally posted by The Whistler The Whistler wrote:

Originally posted by Man Erg Man Erg wrote:

Leave it on the library counter (or somewhere where a librarian will find it) when no-one is looking,then run away.' Ooh! We've been looking for this for ages,We wndered where it had gone...' they will probably say.
They will let you off completely...or catch you doing the deed on CCTV.
   
 
I actually considered returning it, then coming back later and when they said, "Uh, sir, you have a six hundred dollar fine," I'd say, "What the crap are you talking about?!? I returned that ages ago!"
 
But I like that idea better, leave it somewhere in the library, and hope for the best! Yes...
Hehe, i did that once... or rather, they made the mistake, but i got away with it because i had replaced it without them knowing it.

Otherwise, i say keep it. Who cares, i have a few books at home i've had for years, and if they ever came to fine me for them, i'd be a bum. :)


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Posted By: jimidom
Date Posted: September 05 2007 at 15:29
Keep it!

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Posted By: The Miracle
Date Posted: September 05 2007 at 15:48
If they charge you a year of fines, it'll be much more then the CD's cost, so keep it and pay the cost.

If they just make you pay the cost... keep it because you have to pay the cost anyway

Either way you'll have to pay at least the cost of the album... so basically keep it or return it it' the same deal.  So decide that yourself


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Posted By: rushfan4
Date Posted: September 05 2007 at 16:03
This thread reminded me of either a movie or a tv show or both that I saw some time ago where one of the main characters owed fines for an overdo book or books from his childhood or college days.  He returned to his old home town and the librarian had his name on THE LIST OF DELINQUENTS.  I think that the librarian was something like 80 years old and finding this guy who was so delinquent was her crowning glory.  I can't remember what this movie or tv show was.  Any thoughts? 
 
For some reason, the made for TV version of Stephen King's IT comes to mind.  John Ritter played a character who returned to his childhood hometown to take on the child predator/monster from his childhood.  It seems like this added comic moments as this librarian was chasing him around town while he was searching for IT.  But I also think I might just be mixing scenes from this movie up with another TV show or movie that I may have seen where this occurred.


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Posted By: Bastille Dude
Date Posted: September 05 2007 at 18:22
LOL This actually sounds vaguely familiar but I have no clue.

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Posted By: Vompatti
Date Posted: September 05 2007 at 18:32
Originally posted by rushfan4 rushfan4 wrote:

This thread reminded me of either a movie or a tv show or both that I saw some time ago where one of the main characters owed fines for an overdo book or books from his childhood or college days.  He returned to his old home town and the librarian had his name on THE LIST OF DELINQUENTS.  I think that the librarian was something like 80 years old and finding this guy who was so delinquent was her crowning glory.  I can't remember what this movie or tv show was.  Any thoughts?

Married with Children.


Posted By: TheProgtologist
Date Posted: September 06 2007 at 05:05
Originally posted by Vompatti Vompatti wrote:

Originally posted by rushfan4 rushfan4 wrote:

This thread reminded me of either a movie or a tv show or both that I saw some time ago where one of the main characters owed fines for an overdo book or books from his childhood or college days.  He returned to his old home town and the librarian had his name on THE LIST OF DELINQUENTS.  I think that the librarian was something like 80 years old and finding this guy who was so delinquent was her crowning glory.  I can't remember what this movie or tv show was.  Any thoughts?

Married with Children.
 
There is a hilarious Seinfeld episode where Jerry gets a letter from the library stating he never returned the book "Tropic of Cancer" when he was a teenager and his "case" gets investigated by the "library detective",whose name happens to be Mr. Bookman,and the guy acts like a tough,hard-boiled detective type.


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Posted By: Atavachron
Date Posted: September 06 2007 at 05:13
that guy playing Bookman is brilliant





Posted By: Logan
Date Posted: September 06 2007 at 05:41
Never was much of a Seinfeld watcher, but that makes me think of Hawaii Five-0... "Book 'em, Danno."

 

When I had an overdue bill at one of the public libraries here, they threatened to take legal action if I didn't pay the fine, so I paid the ten bucks.   Was pretty surprised and appalled by the threat, actually, even if I didn't take it that seriously.  At other libraries the most they've done is suspended my card, but this library called me (after I hadn't used the library for a year or so) and sent me a letter threatening legal action over materials that I'd returned long ago, but a little late (it was media, and I was a couple days late and they have fairly substantial daily fines for those.  At another library I've found them very easy-going.  At college, I had a couple of steep fines and had to pay them before registering for the next year.

Did they ever contact you about the Tull CD? I'd be tempted to go along there and try to take something out (if you haven't tried this) and then talk to someone, say you forgot about the disc, then later on report it missing and pay them the replacement cost.  I don't think you'd be fined more than the price of the CD (maybe not a great price, but...).  I just feel uncomfortable having outstanding fines.  I don't mind paying the usually as I think of it as donation to the library (though I used to rack 'em up big-time, and that made me a big donor.  Sort of a patron of the arts).






Posted By: TheProgtologist
Date Posted: September 06 2007 at 16:35
Originally posted by Atavachron Atavachron wrote:

that guy playing Bookman is brilliant
 
 
That dude CRACKS ME UP!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
 
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BOOKMAN: You took this book out in 1971.

JERRY: Yes, and I returned it in 1971.

BOOKMAN: Yeah, '71. That was my first year on the job. Bad year for libraries.

Bad year for America. Hippies burning library cards, Abby Hoffman

telling everybody to steal books. I don't judge a man by the length of

his hair or the kind of music he listens to. Rock was never my bag. But

you put on a pair of shoes when you walk into the New York Public

Library, fella.

JERRY: Look, Mr. Bookman. I--I returned that book. I remember it very

specifically.

BOOKMAN: You're a comedian, you make people laugh.

JERRY: I try.

BOOKMAN: You think this is all a big joke, don't you?

JERRY: No, I don't.

BOOKMAN: I saw you on T.V. once; I remembered your name--from my list. I looked

it up. Sure enough, it checked out. You think because you're a celebrity

that somehow the law doesn't apply to you, that you're above the law?

JERRY: Certainly not.

BOOKMAN: Well, let me tell you something, funny boy. Y'know that little stamp,

the one that says "New York Public Library"? Well that may not mean

anything to you, but that means a lot to me. One whole hell of a lot.

Sure, go ahead, laugh if you want to. I've seen your type before:

Flashy, making the scene, flaunting convention. Yeah, I know what you're

thinking. What's this guy making such a big stink about old library

books? Well, let me give you a hint, junior. Maybe we can live without

libraries, people like you and me. Maybe. Sure, we're too old to change

the world, but what about that kid, sitting down, opening a book, right

now, in a branch at the local library and finding drawings of pee-pees

and wee-wees on the Cat in the Hat and the Five Chinese Brothers?

Doesn't HE deserve better? Look. If you think this is about overdue

fines and missing books, you'd better think again. This is about that

kid's right to read a book without getting his mind warped! Or: maybe

that turns you on, Seinfeld; maybe that's how y'get your kicks. You and

your good-time buddies. Well I got a flash for ya, joy-boy: Party time

is over. Y'got seven days, Seinfeld. That is one week!

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LOLLOLLOLLOLLOL


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Posted By: Bastille Dude
Date Posted: September 06 2007 at 21:31
That is freakin' hysterical. . LOL

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Posted By: rushfan4
Date Posted: September 07 2007 at 00:41
I was never a big Seinfeld fan so I don't think that that was the show I was thinking of; however, it is quite apropos.  Also, I have seen a few episodes here and there throughout the years, so it is quite possible that might have been it.
 
The above lines were pretty funny.  As I was reading it, I actually pictured Dan Aykroyd playing the Bookman character.  It reminded me of his portrayal of Joe Friday in Dragnet, and also the policeman character he played on According to Jim.


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Posted By: Atavachron
Date Posted: September 07 2007 at 00:44
Originally posted by TheProgtologist TheProgtologist wrote:

Originally posted by Atavachron Atavachron wrote:

that guy playing Bookman is brilliant
 


 

That dude CRACKS ME UP!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

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BOOKMAN: You took this book out in 1971.


JERRY: Yes, and I returned it in 1971.


BOOKMAN: Yeah, '71. That was my first year on the job. Bad year for libraries.


Bad year for America. Hippies burning library cards, Abby Hoffman


telling everybody to steal books. I don't judge a man by the length of


his hair or the kind of music he listens to. Rock was never my bag. But


you put on a pair of shoes when you walk into the New York Public


Library, fella.


JERRY: Look, Mr. Bookman. I--I returned that book. I remember it very


specifically.


BOOKMAN: You're a comedian, you make people laugh.


JERRY: I try.


BOOKMAN: You think this is all a big joke, don't you?


JERRY: No, I don't.


BOOKMAN: I saw you on T.V. once; I remembered your name--from my list. I looked


it up. Sure enough, it checked out. You think because you're a celebrity


that somehow the law doesn't apply to you, that you're above the law?


JERRY: Certainly not.


BOOKMAN: Well, let me tell you something, funny boy. Y'know that little stamp,


the one that says "New York Public Library"? Well that may not mean


anything to you, but that means a lot to me. One whole hell of a lot.


Sure, go ahead, laugh if you want to. I've seen your type before:


Flashy, making the scene, flaunting convention. Yeah, I know what you're


thinking. What's this guy making such a big stink about old library


books? Well, let me give you a hint, junior. Maybe we can live without


libraries, people like you and me. Maybe. Sure, we're too old to change


the world, but what about that kid, sitting down, opening a book, right


now, in a branch at the local library and finding drawings of pee-pees


and wee-wees on the Cat in the Hat and the Five Chinese Brothers?


Doesn't HE deserve better? Look. If you think this is about overdue


fines and missing books, you'd better think again. This is about that


kid's right to read a book without getting his mind warped! Or: maybe


that turns you on, Seinfeld; maybe that's how y'get your kicks. You and


your good-time buddies. Well I got a flash for ya, joy-boy: Party time


is over. Y'got seven days, Seinfeld. That is one week!


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LOLLOLLOLLOLLOL



Jody you are pimpin',,, I wanted to post a few lines from that but couldn't remember the dialog word for word, and was too tired to search. Awesome



Posted By: TheProgtologist
Date Posted: September 07 2007 at 01:40
Originally posted by rushfan4 rushfan4 wrote:

I was never a big Seinfeld fan so I don't think that that was the show I was thinking of; however, it is quite apropos.  Also, I have seen a few episodes here and there throughout the years, so it is quite possible that might have been it.
 
The above lines were pretty funny.  As I was reading it, I actually pictured Dan Aykroyd playing the Bookman character.  It reminded me of his portrayal of Joe Friday in Dragnet, and also the policeman character he played on According to Jim.
 
The thing that is so funny about that scene,besides the great dialogue,is the character of Bookman himself.He is wearing a trenchcoat,is sort of rumpled,and is absolutely stone-faced and serious when he's saying his lines.He paces the room and does a lot of abrupt turns when he's talking and he punctuates his sentences by pointing at Jerry,etc.,and the whole time Jerry is trying not to laugh.
 
Thanks for indulging me a bit guys,I am a huge Seinfeld fan.


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Posted By: The Whistler
Date Posted: September 07 2007 at 02:24
I dunno guys, there's something hopelessly romantic about doing something illegal for the Tull. Maybe I will try to sneak it back in...

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Posted By: Easy Money
Date Posted: September 10 2007 at 21:52
I would put it in a plain brown bag, leave it on their doorstep, ring the doorbell and then run like hell. Be sure and take a back route to your house so they can't follow you. This has always worked for me.


Posted By: Jim Garten
Date Posted: September 11 2007 at 03:29
Originally posted by The Whistler The Whistler wrote:

I dunno guys, there's something hopelessly romantic about doing something illegal for the Tull. Maybe I will try to sneak it back in...


What you could do is tie the CD to a brick and throw it through the library window; criminal damage and theft - how romantic is that?

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Posted By: The Whistler
Date Posted: September 13 2007 at 02:32
OR, I could toss the CD through the window, ring the libary's doorbell (wait, do they have one? No matter), leave 'em some flaming dog crap, THEN run. How's that?

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"There seem to be quite a large percentage of young American boys out there tonight. A long way from home, eh? Well so are we... Gotta stick together." -I. Anderson


Posted By: Barla
Date Posted: September 16 2007 at 18:23
Of course you should return it to the library.
But, hey, I didn't know libraries where you can rent CDs!!!! That would be great!!! Clap


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Posted By: Shakespeare
Date Posted: September 23 2007 at 09:57
Originally posted by TheProgtologist TheProgtologist wrote:

Return it,they cannot charge you a years worth of fines.They can only charge you the cost of the item.

Yeah, they're not supposed to charge any more than the cost of the thing. If it wasn't the case, the the Rush in Rio DVD would have costs me a lot more than it did...

And also, at my library, the fine is 1 dollar per day. That would $365 for you.


Posted By: Easy Money
Date Posted: September 23 2007 at 10:39
Originally posted by The Whistler The Whistler wrote:

OR, I could toss the CD through the window, ring the libary's doorbell (wait, do they have one? No matter), leave 'em some flaming dog crap, THEN run. How's that?
Don't forget to leave the front door ajar with the CD precariously sitting a top the door so that when they open it the CD comes crashing down on their head. If this is the full J Tull 40 year collection box set, I am sure it could do some serious damage. Finally, revenge for years of being told to be quiet.



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