Funky prog
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Topic: Funky prog
Posted By: unclemeat69
Subject: Funky prog
Date Posted: September 03 2007 at 14:41
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I've been listening to quite a bit of prog these last few years,
sometimes little else, an done thing that strikes me is how unfunky a
lot of these bands are, some of those few that sound funky to me (at
times) are GG, TFK and Yes (mostly the 2nd verse of CttE and the
choruses of southside of the sky). Are these the only bands with a
little bit of bump in their rump, or were/are there others too?
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Posted By: Philéas
Date Posted: September 03 2007 at 15:01
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Check out Badger, a band Tony Kaye formed after he left Yes. Their first album, One Live Badger, is some sort of funky semi-Prog. Very good. I haven't heard their second album though. |
Posted By: andu
Date Posted: September 03 2007 at 15:46
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I call this "prog-funk" : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q43hsCIBSnQ - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q43hsCIBSnQ I'm sure there's a lot of space-rock & psyche out there that's really funky. My knowledge is very limited, but I can 100% recommend 80s Ozric Tentacles (never heard their 90s and 00s albums, though). ------------- "PA's own GI Joe!" 
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Posted By: chamberry
Date Posted: September 03 2007 at 15:53
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http://www.progarchives.com/artist.asp?id=1089 - Eskaton is my top choice for groovy prog rock. Those bass lines will make you move whether you like it or not. Check them out. ------------- 
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Posted By: philippe
Date Posted: September 03 2007 at 16:08
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the 70's Exmagma are really good at that, absolutely "funkadelic" jazzy prog band ------------- 
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Posted By: Easy Money
Date Posted: September 03 2007 at 16:35
| Check out a Miles Davis album called "Agharta", not your typical funk, but not your typical space-psychedelic fusion record either. |
Posted By: anael
Date Posted: September 03 2007 at 16:36
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I listen to Afroskull and sounds to me very funky: http://www.afroskull.com/sounds.htm - http://www.afroskull.com/sounds.htm also there's a masterpiece of funky-zeuhl: George Jinda's The Wheel of Love. ------------- 
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Posted By: Easy Money
Date Posted: September 03 2007 at 16:40
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unclemeat69 wrote:Posted By: Kotro
Date Posted: September 03 2007 at 16:43
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Nektar has some great funky tunes. ------------- Bigger on the inside. |
Posted By: rileydog22
Date Posted: September 03 2007 at 16:45
I wouldn't call those Zeuhl basslines funky, but I would call them awesome. I don't think Eskaton is very funky, but I still highly recommend them. -------------   |
Posted By: fuxi
Date Posted: September 03 2007 at 17:08
| There's quite a bit of funk on Gong's amazing ESPRESSO II and on Bill Bruford's first two solo albums. Even Chris Squire included a fairly funky track ('Lucky Seven') on his otherwise forgettable solo-album FISH OUT OF WATER. |
Posted By: Leningrad
Date Posted: September 03 2007 at 17:11
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Unidentified (Flying Being) by Steve Hillage.
You all know I'm right!
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Posted By: R o V e R
Date Posted: September 03 2007 at 17:25
| What is Funky? |
Posted By: Philéas
Date Posted: September 03 2007 at 17:28
Have you heard Fiction? Very funky, in my opinion.  |
Posted By: Slartibartfast
Date Posted: September 03 2007 at 17:37
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Herbie Hancock's Headhunters. Funky Jazz Rock/Fusion.
Les Claypool.
Praxis.
Miles Davis On the Corner. ------------- Released date are often when it it impacted you but recorded dates are when it really happened... 
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Posted By: laplace
Date Posted: September 03 2007 at 17:47
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Area are good at this; look for Crac! and some of the later '70s albums. Eider Stellaire get funky too but they have no taste. also check out EIK's second album ------------- FREEDOM OF SPEECH GO TO HELL |
Posted By: unclemeat69
Date Posted: September 03 2007 at 17:53
GG is short for Gentle Giant, some of their (imho) funkiest moments are found in proclamation (off the power and the glory), alucard (off their debut album), there are plenty other moments as well, TFK are The Flower Kings, a funky song (to me at least) might be Genie in a bottle (although I could do without the somewhat Bob Dylan type vocalstyle) ------------- Follow your bliss |
Posted By: Slartibartfast
Date Posted: September 03 2007 at 17:57
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I forgot about some Frank Zappa and some Mahavishnu Orchestra after the first lineup disintegrated. ------------- Released date are often when it it impacted you but recorded dates are when it really happened...
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Posted By: puma
Date Posted: September 03 2007 at 18:13
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a lot of Yes songs have grooves to them 80s king crimson is incredibly funky in the new-wave way I agree that a lot of Ozric Tentacles is very funky and don't forget the funkiest tune on this site, Fracture |
Posted By: FranMuzak
Date Posted: September 03 2007 at 18:20
| There is a new band called Ezoo. Very good funky Jazz-Rock fusion! |
Posted By: Fitzcarraldo
Date Posted: September 03 2007 at 18:28
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Surprisingly, GOBLIN. Check out e.g. the album Suspiria which has quite a bit of jazz-funk, despite being the OST for a horror movie. See my review: http://www.progarchives.com/Review.asp?id=104911 - http://www.progarchives.com/Review.asp?id=104911 ------------- http://www.progarchives.com/Collaborators.asp?id=326" rel="nofollow - Read reviews by Fitzcarraldo |
Posted By: Easy Money
Date Posted: September 03 2007 at 19:38
| You might want to check out King Crimson when Wetton and Bruford were in the band, especially the live stuff. Not really jazz/funk, but a lot of the live jams lean that way. |
Posted By: Easy Money
Date Posted: September 03 2007 at 20:14
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Posted By: honganji
Date Posted: September 03 2007 at 20:20
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Miles Davis / On The Corner
Herbie Hancock / Head Hunters
Date Course Pentagon Royal Garden / Report From Iron Mountain
etc, are good samples.
http://www.amazon.com/Corner-Miles-Davis/dp/B00004VWAF/ref=pd_bbs_sr_1/002-8498569-4024835?ie=UTF8&s=music&qid=1188865090&sr=8-1">
 http://www.amazon.com/Head-Hunters-Herbie-Hancock/dp/B000002AGP/ref=pd_bbs_sr_1/002-8498569-4024835?ie=UTF8&s=music&qid=1188865137&sr=8-1"> http://www.amazon.com/Report-Mountain-Course-Pentagon-Garden/dp/B00005MMDX/ref=sr_1_1/002-8498569-4024835?ie=UTF8&s=music&qid=1188865178&sr=8-1"> |
Posted By: fungusucantkill
Date Posted: September 03 2007 at 20:26
yes. -------------  
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Posted By: Flucktrot
Date Posted: September 03 2007 at 21:30
Seconded. I also bought some Jeff Beck (Wired and Blow-by-Blow) off progarchives recommendations that are pretty funky (and good!). ------------- Thank you, God of Rock, for this chance to kick ass |
Posted By: Shakespeare
Date Posted: September 03 2007 at 21:33
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Mr. Bungle for "funk metal". The best funk prog, though, is Herbie Hancock. |
Posted By: BaldFriede
Date Posted: September 03 2007 at 22:16
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Steve Hillage can be quite funky; just listen to "Unidentified" from his "Green" album. There is also some funk on Christian Boulé's second solo album "Non-Fiction" in the tracks "Chance", "Magic Fanfare" and "L.I.F.E.". -------------  BaldJean and I; I am the one in blue. |
Posted By: The Rock
Date Posted: September 03 2007 at 22:23
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Zzebra
Osibisa
Atlantis(German band)
Karthago
Kraan
Toubabou
Keef Hartley Band
Ashton,Gardner & Dyke
Paice,Ashton,Lord(PIL)
Halleluwha,the song from Can on their album Tago Mago.Funky and groovy bass line. ------------- What's gonna come out of my mouth is gonna come out of my soul."Skip Prokop" |
Posted By: BaldFriede
Date Posted: September 03 2007 at 22:26
Karthago, by the way, is not in the archives yet; definitely an oversight. ------------- BaldJean and I; I am the one in blue. |
Posted By: Crimson King420
Date Posted: September 03 2007 at 22:40
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Parliament made some progressive albums, a good example would be the Osmium album.
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Posted By: MusicForSpeedin
Date Posted: September 03 2007 at 22:44
| Praxis |
Posted By: alan_pfeifer
Date Posted: September 03 2007 at 23:52
| Check out the album VU by a band called Zenith Patrol. Jazz/Funk fusion band, really good stuff. |
Posted By: unclemeat69
Date Posted: September 04 2007 at 02:46
That would be soul, I think, as in "a joint rolled in toilet paper" ------------- Follow your bliss |
Posted By: Man Erg
Date Posted: September 04 2007 at 03:01
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Yes with the Squire/Bruford rhythm section was very funky at times e.g. Roundabout.
Automatic Man who included Michael Shreeve ex Santana and he was also in Stomu Yamash*ta's Go who were also funky prog. ------------- 
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Posted By: Atavachron
Date Posted: September 04 2007 at 03:02
bass/drums duo Clevis do a sort of prog-funk.. or I should say prog-gonk 
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Posted By: iguana
Date Posted: September 04 2007 at 03:45
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SAGA have always had a fair bit of funkiness to them – think “humble stance“ etc.
absolutely 80s CRIMSON – and kudos to the mentioning of PARLIAMENT. george clinton's FUNKADELIC is also highly recommended if ya wanna get down, wat'cha gon' do  ------------- progressive rock and rural tranquility don't match. true or false? |
Posted By: clarke2001
Date Posted: September 04 2007 at 06:37
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Billy Cobham played some best funk ever!
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Posted By: The Rock
Date Posted: September 04 2007 at 07:38
There are many bands not in PA that should be.Karthago is one of them. ------------- What's gonna come out of my mouth is gonna come out of my soul."Skip Prokop" |
Posted By: Zargus
Date Posted: September 04 2007 at 08:19
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Gong - Flying Teapot. ------------- 
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Posted By: The Rock
Date Posted: September 04 2007 at 16:39
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Brian Auger's Oblivion Express
Brian Auger's Trinity
And Brian Auger is another artist who should be on PA!
He's a pionneer.
I really wonder why he's not included???
 ------------- What's gonna come out of my mouth is gonna come out of my soul."Skip Prokop" |
Posted By: Cinema
Date Posted: September 04 2007 at 18:36
| Everyone will probably laugh their butts off at this one, but I think Parliament / Funkadelic (two outfits from the brilliant mind of George Clinton) can definitely be considered progressive funk. Those two bands, first Funkadelic and then Parliament, were doing things and experimenting with R&B long before anyone else. Heck, you can even make an argument that George Clinton pretty much invented funk, or at least a sub-genre of it. Parliament absolutely laid the ground work for tons of artists that would follow in their path. |
Posted By: Easy Money
Date Posted: September 04 2007 at 20:08
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Posted By: MadcapLaughs84
Date Posted: September 04 2007 at 22:10
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El Diablo is a mexican band that sounds some kind of funky for me
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Posted By: Gentle Tull
Date Posted: September 04 2007 at 23:50
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Umphrey's Mcgee
Phish ------------- 
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Posted By: unclemeat69
Date Posted: September 05 2007 at 01:59
it's called P-funk, and George couldn't have invented it without folks like Bootsy, Bernie Worrell, Gary Shider and a whole bunch more. I still love it though, in fact I was thinking of this while creating this thread ------------- Follow your bliss |
Posted By: Slartibartfast
Date Posted: September 05 2007 at 12:54
Not familar with Worrell outside of his praxis, Talking Heads, and Colonel Claypool's Bucket of Bernie Brains. Most definitely a good prog/funk artist.... ------------- Released date are often when it it impacted you but recorded dates are when it really happened...
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Posted By: Easy Money
Date Posted: September 05 2007 at 13:40
| Bernie was the main kybd guy for both Parliament and Funkadelic. Very progressive kybd player with lots of classical and jazz influences, restless experimenter and an early user of synthesizers. His synth-bass line in the funk hit Flashlight was inspired by the low notes in Keith Emmerson's solo on Lucky Man. |
Posted By: rushfan4
Date Posted: September 05 2007 at 13:55
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The first band that came to mind for me was King's X bassist/vocalist Doug Pinnick's side project Poundhound. The debut album was titled Massive Grooves from the Electric Church of Psychofunkadelic Grungelism Rock Music. Sounds pretty funky to me. ------------- 
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Posted By: salmacis
Date Posted: September 06 2007 at 05:58
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Nobody's mentioned Babe Ruth; there was a definite soul/funk presence in their music. Check out 'Wells Fargo' or 'The Mexican' which is a sort of prog/funk reworking of the Ennio Morricone theme tune 'For A Few Dollars More' (and the same arrangement was later rehashed, more or less, by Rare Bird who called it 'Dollars').
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Posted By: dwill123
Date Posted: September 06 2007 at 08:23
"Journey Through the Secret Life of Plants" an extremely progressive and one of Stevie Wonder's most aclaimed albums, althought nobody has probably ever heard of it.
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Posted By: oracus
Date Posted: September 06 2007 at 09:58
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Regresso Al Origen from Grupo Ciruela is the most recent funky record i found. Rare great stuff! ------------- 
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Posted By: Easy Money
Date Posted: September 06 2007 at 10:08
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Posted By: Slartibartfast
Date Posted: September 06 2007 at 13:01
I've heard of this one. Haven't heard it in years. Might have to add it to my CD collection! ------------- Released date are often when it it impacted you but recorded dates are when it really happened...
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Posted By: Easy Money
Date Posted: September 06 2007 at 13:56
| As long as we are talking about progressive funk, there is always Prince. A lot of his music shows an obvious appreciation for prog-rock, as well as a strong interest in jazz. I think his best work came after he quit being a pop star. |
Posted By: dwill123
Date Posted: September 06 2007 at 15:30
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Posted By: Ripples
Date Posted: September 06 2007 at 16:03
| My Picks for Funky Prog are Return to Forever and Funkadelic. Anyone else enjoy these..? |
Posted By: eddietrooper
Date Posted: September 06 2007 at 17:11
| Sleepless (King Crimson) is the funkiest prog song ever. |
Posted By: Easy Money
Date Posted: September 06 2007 at 18:38
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Posted By: Atavachron
Date Posted: September 06 2007 at 22:15
though I don't usually take my fusion with much funk, No Mystery is a fine album |
Posted By: Tapfret
Date Posted: September 07 2007 at 00:37
 Good thing I actually read through the posts. That's who I would have suggested.
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Posted By: JesusisLord
Date Posted: September 07 2007 at 01:16
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PETER GABRIELS SOLO WORKS GET THEIR GROOVE ON......
I LOVE TO BE LOVED.....DIG IT DIG IT DIG IT.......
DIGGING IN THE DIRT.....DIG IT DIG IT DIG IT....... ------------- And that every tongue should confess that Jesus Christ is Lord to the glory of God the Father. Phillipians 2:11 |
Posted By: Fitzcarraldo
Date Posted: September 07 2007 at 15:01
Innervisions is a superb album. Stevie wonder used a Moog on that album to very good effect but, Moog or no Moog, the song writing is top notch. A classic album. ------------- http://www.progarchives.com/Collaborators.asp?id=326" rel="nofollow - Read reviews by Fitzcarraldo |
Posted By: andu
Date Posted: September 08 2007 at 13:20
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Brand X - Morrocan Roll
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Posted By: unclemeat69
Date Posted: September 08 2007 at 14:20
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thnx for the tips so far, I'll be sure to check 'em out
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Posted By: Syzygy
Date Posted: September 08 2007 at 19:27
Not the first time that this observation has been made on here, but worth bringing up again nonetheless. The Parliafunkadelicment/Mothership output in the 70s was infinitely proggier (and more progressive in the wider sense) than Love Beach or most of Yes and Genesis' 80s output. Their influence can be felt in later Magma (Retrovision is 20 minutes of what Clinton would have sounded like if he'd been born on Kobaia) and even in some of Acid Mothers Temple's funkier freak outs.
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Posted By: Tapfret
Date Posted: September 09 2007 at 05:25
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Two comments: In an interview with George Clinton on PBS's History of Rock n' Roll, George was asked what Par/Funkadelics major influences were. His first answer was ELP. It is not a stretch to give them prog props. Especially on their spacey, long improv tunes. On George inventing funk, band members were asked who started funk. Every one interviewed, George, Bootsy, Bernie etc. all said Sly and the Family Stone. James Browne was also certainly a major player in the evolution of funk. ------------- https://www.last.fm/user/Tapfret" rel="nofollow"> https://bandcamp.com/tapfret" rel="nofollow - Bandcamp |
Posted By: Easy Money
Date Posted: September 10 2007 at 08:21
| I have one more prog-funk band for you: Earth Wind and Fire. In the mid-70s they were possibly the most talented band going, unfotunately they eventually became a dull pop band. Check out their double album Gratitude, which mixes live and studio material. They combine jazz and RnB with ambitious prog-rock tendencies and top it off with some of the best vocal and horn arrangements ever. I saw them live in 76 and they were incredible. |
Posted By: unclemeat69
Date Posted: September 27 2007 at 14:31
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Thanks for the responses, I already knew old p-funk
(funkadelic/parliament/eddie hazel etc), I also knew trat Earth Wind
& Fire used to be heavy funk with indeed proggy tendencies, until
they changed into a disco act. I'll be sure to check out at least some
of the others if not all other suggestion. thnx
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Posted By: zicIy
Date Posted: September 30 2007 at 02:39
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Ohio Players (with albums as ´Fire´ from 1974 and ´Honey´, 1975) and Tower Of Power (albums as ´Tower Of Power´, ´Back To Oakland´, both from 1974, ´Renewal´ and ´Slot´, both from 1975), should be mentioned as awesome funk bands....imho. |
Posted By: Easy Money
Date Posted: September 30 2007 at 07:13
| The Ohio Players are known more for their commercial hits, but their earlier albums contain some interesting songs influenced by jazz and psychedelic rock. |
Posted By: yoel?
Date Posted: September 30 2007 at 07:18
| Kings X are masters of groove rock |
Posted By: Time Signature
Date Posted: September 30 2007 at 07:42
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I don't know if this counts as prog as such, but Meco's Star Wars and Other Galactic Funk is quite interesting.
It contains a 15 minute long disco/jazz/funk/pop medley based on the theme from A New Hope. There's another jazz/funk/pop/world music/march tune which is about 13 minutes long called "Other Galactic Funk", which is quite interesting, too.
If there is such as genre as prog funk/disco, I'd say this is a prime example, but then again, I guess I am known to be too liberal when it comes to accepting things as prog.
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Posted By: zicIy
Date Posted: September 30 2007 at 13:53
ok. what about Tower Of Power?
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Posted By: zicIy
Date Posted: September 30 2007 at 14:00
that is my fav of him.
(following by ´Hotter Than July´
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Posted By: zicIy
Date Posted: September 30 2007 at 14:12
congtrats!
Prince is a genius. i like this NEWS cd so much although my fav is his("legendary") black album.  |
Posted By: magnus
Date Posted: September 30 2007 at 14:31
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funky prog-related: Primus!
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Posted By: zicIy
Date Posted: September 30 2007 at 14:42
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WHAT ABOUT MATERIAL ?
that band from early 80´s was really proggy funky stuff
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Posted By: lucas
Date Posted: October 01 2007 at 18:31
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Herbie Hancock and the headhunters released an album of funk-jazz music "thrust"
Dixie Dregs had some groovy tunes on "free fall".
But funk is not often mixed with prog, apart from maybe some funk artists of the sixties / seventies who recorded some crazy groovy and experimental tunes : sly and the family stone, booker T & the MG's, coke escovedo, sexteto electronico modern, celofunk, diplomats of solid sound had one foot anchored in jazz and the other in dancing music. And although not prog, chairmen of the board was a fine funk band. ------------- "Magma was the very first gothic rock band" (Didier Lockwood) |