should purplepiper be a prog reviewer?
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Topic: should purplepiper be a prog reviewer?
Posted By: purplepiper
Subject: should purplepiper be a prog reviewer?
Date Posted: August 09 2007 at 21:54
hello all! I've been reviewing albums for progarchives for quite awhile and I feel that I should be designated as a reviewer. I think i've done 27 or so reviews, not quite 30, but i'll get there and surpass it in time. My early reviews are short I admit, but my more recent reviews have become quite lengthy and much more informative! Go ahead, read some of my reviews and make the ultimate choice! Should or shouldn't purplepiper be a prog reviewer? ------------- for those about to prog, we salute you. |
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Posted By: purplepiper
Date Posted: August 09 2007 at 21:55
yeah, I voted for myself. so what? ------------- for those about to prog, we salute you. |
Posted By: andu
Date Posted: August 09 2007 at 21:58
hillary clinton for prog-reviewer! 
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Posted By: TheProgtologist
Date Posted: August 09 2007 at 21:59
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You shouldn't have to campaign for it.If your reviews are good they should speak for themselves. -------------  |
Posted By: thellama73
Date Posted: August 09 2007 at 22:04
No one has ever asked me to be a prog reviewer either. I cry myself to sleep every night. 
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Posted By: purplepiper
Date Posted: August 09 2007 at 22:12
yeah, I know!  I'm just bored! I really do write a lot of good reviews though...------------- for those about to prog, we salute you. |
TheProgtologist wrote:Posted By: purplepiper
Date Posted: August 09 2007 at 22:15
and you have more reviews than me! Let us cry together thellama73  (me and you crying together).------------- for those about to prog, we salute you. |
Posted By: Bj-1
Date Posted: August 09 2007 at 22:19
You both have good reviews One day you'll make it as PR's, just keep on improving and try out styles that you feel fit yourself the best. That's what I did------------- RIO/AVANT/ZEUHL - The best thing you can get with yer pants on! |
Posted By: thellama73
Date Posted: August 09 2007 at 22:20
Yeah, some of my early ones sucked. But I think I've gotten a lot better at it. From this day forward, I shall count you among my friends!  -------------
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Posted By: Shakespeare
Date Posted: August 09 2007 at 22:30
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Or you can do what I did. Become a Senior Member on the Forums Write 100 reviews Tell the collaborators that they're missing an album in an artist's discography instead of adding it yourself. You are...one third of the way there...just make your reviews as good as possible: not necessarily long (but that helps) but comprehensive, with excellent vocabulary, and use the very best grammar and spelling you can. (THAT MEANS CAPITALS!!!!!!!!!!!) |
Posted By: NotAProghead
Date Posted: August 09 2007 at 23:02
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Yes, capital letters are sometimes useful.
I think you better cry together with thellama73 ------------- Who are you and who am I to say we know the reason why... (D. Gilmour) |
Posted By: The Whistler
Date Posted: August 09 2007 at 23:40
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Wow, quite ballsy there Piper. Not even I have attempted to sway public opinion in my favor, and I've tried just about every dirty trick in the book to become a Tull reviewer. I'll have to try this sometime...
As for you? I'll have to echo what everyone else is saying. Work on the forums (be a good lad), work on the reviews, make 'em clean (that is, free of grammatical error, which I did detect), readable (enjoyable writing) but still techincal (talkin' about the music without resorting to namecalling, DESPITE how fun it is). You know, just the easy stuff that all budding-to-proffesional writers have to deal with.
Some personal advice: don't be afraid to review more than the classic (and I mean more than obscure albums or artists; reviewing bad albums is a hoot, trust me), and branch out a little (there are more bands than Yes, Genesis and Crimso). Oh, and try not to get caught up in some sort of conceptual reviewing cycle (despite how fun THAT is...).
Now, if you excuse me, I have another Tull compilation to review. ------------- "There seem to be quite a large percentage of young American boys out there tonight. A long way from home, eh? Well so are we... Gotta stick together." -I. Anderson |
Posted By: el böthy
Date Posted: August 10 2007 at 00:11
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I don´t even know you
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Posted By: Ricochet
Date Posted: August 10 2007 at 01:50
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I miss being a prog-reviewer. I mean I reviewer, but my collaborator badges says another thing...
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Posted By: Dim
Date Posted: August 10 2007 at 01:54
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I am very excited to become a prog reviewer, I have written two review toniight
PROGTOLOGIST AND RICO, PLEASE READ THEM!!! THEY ARE QUITE GOOD!!! ------------- 
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Posted By: Easy Livin
Date Posted: August 10 2007 at 03:44
| If you think you have met the prerequisites (which are just guidelines of course) as detailed in the FAQ's thread, drop a PM to Atkingani seeing consideration. |
Posted By: MikeEnRegalia
Date Posted: August 10 2007 at 04:49
Usually it's a bad idea to create threads about a single member ... even about yourself. I speak from personal experience!
------------- https://awesomeprog.com/users/Mike" rel="nofollow">Recently listened to: 
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Posted By: Yorkie X
Date Posted: August 10 2007 at 05:03
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When "the man" thinks your ready he will tap you on the shoulder |
Posted By: The Whistler
Date Posted: August 10 2007 at 05:06
...The Man on the Silver Mountain? Holy crap, I wanna be a reviewer! ------------- "There seem to be quite a large percentage of young American boys out there tonight. A long way from home, eh? Well so are we... Gotta stick together." -I. Anderson |
Posted By: sircosick
Date Posted: August 10 2007 at 08:33
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Your reviews aren't bad, but obviously you gotta reach a more wide range of genres to think about being prog reviewer. Personally, lately I always do care of my reviews to get over the 400 words. I think that's also an important thing to consider if you wanna be a prog reviewer. ------------- The best you can is good enough... |
Posted By: laplace
Date Posted: August 10 2007 at 08:38
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I voted yes so you wouldn't be so discouraged by all the mean voters ;P ------------- FREEDOM OF SPEECH GO TO HELL |
Posted By: Chris H
Date Posted: August 10 2007 at 08:39
Two good points, but although a longer review usually means more informative content, take the first piece of advice before the second. You almost certainly should think about reviewing 2 or 3 albums from at least 12 to 13 (if not all) of the genres. ------------- Beauty will save the world. 
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Posted By: chopper
Date Posted: August 10 2007 at 08:46
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Shows promise but has a way to go yet.
Use of capital letters for names, use of paragraphs, referring to songs by their titles rather than "Track 1". This critique of CTTE doesn't really say much
"The first track alone is worth the price! Track 2 is excellent, but doesn't quite match the title track, but that song was practically perfect! Track 3, the shortest number, is a really good song. It's not too lengthy and full of musical excellence, which is characteristic of yes."
Mind you, you deserve credit for your perceptive interpretation of "Watcher of the Skies" - "it's about a watcher of the skies". Brilliant.
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Posted By: Chris H
Date Posted: August 10 2007 at 08:47
  Everyones a critic, eh? ------------- Beauty will save the world.
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Posted By: Jimbo
Date Posted: August 10 2007 at 08:50
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I have a hard time understanding why it's such a big deal to the lot of you to become prog reviewers. All you get is a mention under your name 'prog reviewer' and the ability to write your own profile/edit your reviews. There's no glory, just a silly title. Just because you're a 'senior member' or a 'newbie' it doesn't mean you're any less worthy. ------------- 
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Posted By: Shakespeare
Date Posted: August 10 2007 at 09:53
I'm surprised at how easily I became a reviewer now that I think about it...My reviews aren't particularily spectacular and I wasn't a huge forum user (then) and I didn't even ask! Now I feel special! And that's not true^^^, the ability to edit/rewrite old reviews is a mammoth aid. Not to mention, your self-esteem and self-respect go sky-high! |
Posted By: Chicapah
Date Posted: August 10 2007 at 10:34
We're not sure you could survive the brutal initiation rites. Involves Lord Voldemort. Very painful.  ------------- "Literature is well enough, as a time-passer, and for the improvement and general elevation and purification of mankind, but it has no practical value" - Mark Twain |
Posted By: Shakespeare
Date Posted: August 10 2007 at 10:36
| On that topic, Voldemort actually endorses my band so I could skip that step. Still had to do the part with the knives and the skeletal corpses, though. |
Posted By: rileydog22
Date Posted: August 10 2007 at 12:34
I don't know about you guys, but I can do that anyways. I just log into the colab zone with my forum identification and it takes me to a page where I can do that stuff. I don't think you need a fourth star to do that. EDIT: I can't have a profile since I have only 3 stars, but I can still edit my reviews. -------------   |
Posted By: Shakespeare
Date Posted: August 10 2007 at 12:36
| Can you really? I couldn't when I was a mere 3 star. |
Posted By: Leningrad
Date Posted: August 10 2007 at 12:40
That's why, Jimbo.
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Posted By: Equality 7-2521
Date Posted: August 10 2007 at 12:46
Easy for you to say Mr. Post-Rock Team ------------- "One had to be a Newton to notice that the moon is falling, when everyone sees that it doesn't fall. " |
Posted By: Shakespeare
Date Posted: August 10 2007 at 12:48
Sorry, I should watch my mouth, I wouldn't have appreciated things like that I had a meager 3 stars. |
Posted By: Jimbo
Date Posted: August 10 2007 at 12:55
You really think I want that text there? I'd much prefer just being Jimbo, to be honest. It used to say 'post-rock specialist', but I asked Tony to change it to 'team', because I thought it was embarassing as I'm actually the furthest thing from a specialist of any sort. The text is there for practical purposes, so that people will know who to contact regarding post-rock related submissions/things. -------------
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Posted By: Equality 7-2521
Date Posted: August 10 2007 at 13:15
I'm just joking around Jimbo. I guess I should have thrown a ' ' after my comment.------------- "One had to be a Newton to notice that the moon is falling, when everyone sees that it doesn't fall. " |
Posted By: thellama73
Date Posted: August 10 2007 at 14:00
Thanks for the heads up! I had no idea. I just went back through all my reviews and corrected the typos. Maybe that will increase my chances of being promoted. -------------
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Posted By: Bj-1
Date Posted: August 10 2007 at 14:03
Correct!
Before I became a PR, I did that alot to improve my earlier reviews and I think that helped me alot on the way for getting my promotion. It also helped my reviewing style. ------------- RIO/AVANT/ZEUHL - The best thing you can get with yer pants on! |
Posted By: Jimbo
Date Posted: August 10 2007 at 15:07
Ah, alright. The emoticons do come in handy since it's always a bit difficult to tell whether someone is joking or not when you can't see their facial expressions.  The fact that non-collabs can edit their reviews was definitely news to me, I wonder if the admins are aware of this. -------------
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Posted By: stonebeard
Date Posted: August 10 2007 at 15:11
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For me, I was a more productive reviewer when I wasn't a collaborator. I've lost motivation, and now it's considered a good month for reviewing if I can produce 3 or 4 reviews.
------------- http://soundcloud.com/drewagler" rel="nofollow - My soundcloud. Please give feedback if you want! |
Posted By: stonebeard
Date Posted: August 10 2007 at 15:13
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Oh, hahaha. And if you think I'm a specialist in Neo-Prog for one second, your dead wrong. I know quite a few Neo bands that grate my ears like no other, but I happen to be one of the few people that like the genre, hence I'm here.
------------- http://soundcloud.com/drewagler" rel="nofollow - My soundcloud. Please give feedback if you want! |
Posted By: Shakespeare
Date Posted: August 10 2007 at 15:13
Seriously? |
Posted By: purplepiper
Date Posted: August 10 2007 at 19:31
I like bad ideas... They're the only kind of ideas I ever get!------------- for those about to prog, we salute you. |
Posted By: purplepiper
Date Posted: August 10 2007 at 19:39
My review of ctte is horendous I know! It was a very early review for me...not sure what I was thinking. It basically says nothing! Thanks for noticing my brilliance on my foxtrot review . My latest reviews are much longer and are broken into paragraphs. I've also tried to cut down on errors and such. For my college English classes, I NEVER make mistakes, but here, well, I tend to let things slide Compare my earliest reviews to my most recent and see the difference!------------- for those about to prog, we salute you. |
Posted By: sircosick
Date Posted: August 10 2007 at 22:01
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^ Same for me. I dunno how they let remain my early reviews here..... they're horrid. I made them mostly in five minutes..... when I recently joined PA.
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Posted By: rileydog22
Date Posted: August 10 2007 at 22:18
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^^Go back and edit them then, or ask an admin to delete them so you can re-write them entirely.
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Posted By: purplepiper
Date Posted: August 11 2007 at 02:42
You can do that? Hmmm...many of my early reviews should be deleted! I'll have to sort through them...I'm afraid most of them do not meet my new standards... ------------- for those about to prog, we salute you. |
Posted By: purplepiper
Date Posted: August 11 2007 at 03:05
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I have realized the grim truth...all, but 4 of my 27 reviews are substandard. Sooo much wasted time! Well, that's what it took to get me to being the decent reviewer i've become. If any of the admins see this, could you please help! Somehow, I need all, but my 4 most recent reviews deleted (all except foxtrot, trespass, in a glass house, and the power and the glory). I intend to replace them all with superior reviews, doing them the justice they deserve. I guess i'm no prog reviewer yet, but by the time I re-write my first 23 reviews, I will be! If anybody can help, I would be very greatful! ------------- for those about to prog, we salute you. |
Posted By: The Whistler
Date Posted: August 11 2007 at 03:13
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Well, hey buddy! You got another sympathetic vote!
Help you...how? Become a reviewer? I think only you can do that. Just stick with the big guys, and play nice. Help you write? Well, my already impressive ego is always up for a w**k if you want some friendly advice that way. ------------- "There seem to be quite a large percentage of young American boys out there tonight. A long way from home, eh? Well so are we... Gotta stick together." -I. Anderson |
Posted By: purplepiper
Date Posted: August 11 2007 at 03:51
I need someone with the power to erase a large portion of my reviews...they're crap! Well, not all of them, but I could do better! Only the 4 most recent are decent, acceptable and dilectable, enlightening not frightening, well...you get it. Look at my early reviews and then check my 4 most recent. Am I even the same person? ------------- for those about to prog, we salute you. |
Posted By: The Whistler
Date Posted: August 11 2007 at 03:55
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Yeah, I had a similar relevation recently meself. Naturally, I did nothing to fix it, but complained instead.
Uh, you know that you CAN edit your own reviews, right? Just click on the collaborators link, log into your account, view your reviews, and then just cut and fix them to your hearts content.
Coincidentally, do you write your reviews on the spot, or do you write 'em up in Microsoft Word or some such program first? ------------- "There seem to be quite a large percentage of young American boys out there tonight. A long way from home, eh? Well so are we... Gotta stick together." -I. Anderson |
Posted By: purplepiper
Date Posted: August 11 2007 at 04:04
I'll try fixing them myself...ugh...can't someone do it for me? FINE! I'll do it myself! Really, I just want to erase them and start from scratch. I have always written them on the spot, but I'm going to write them in microsoft word from now on. It makes more sense that way...I think some of my reviews suffered due to interuptions and since I couldn't save them, I'd just try to finish 'em real quick. That's no good is it .------------- for those about to prog, we salute you. |
Posted By: The Whistler
Date Posted: August 11 2007 at 04:06
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That's the puh-spirit! ------------- "There seem to be quite a large percentage of young American boys out there tonight. A long way from home, eh? Well so are we... Gotta stick together." -I. Anderson |
Posted By: purplepiper
Date Posted: August 11 2007 at 04:11
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^ what is puh-spirit? Well, whatever it is, I'm sure i'm full of it! yay! ------------- for those about to prog, we salute you. |
Posted By: Angelo
Date Posted: August 11 2007 at 09:19
Earlier this week Glass House proposed (in Erik Neuteboom's lesser known bands thread) to start a thread where PRs advice non-PRs on how to write/improve their reviews. Drop these two a PM, there may be some advice waiting for you there... ------------- http://www.iskcrocks.com" rel="nofollow - ISKC Rock Radio I stopped blogging and reviewing - so won't be handling requests. Promo's for ariplay can be sent to [email protected] |
Posted By: Shakespeare
Date Posted: August 11 2007 at 09:36
| Was the thread made, Angelo? If so, where is it? |
Posted By: Angelo
Date Posted: August 11 2007 at 09:46
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The thread's not there yet. That's why I suggested sending a PM to Erik or Tony (Glass House).
------------- http://www.iskcrocks.com" rel="nofollow - ISKC Rock Radio I stopped blogging and reviewing - so won't be handling requests. Promo's for ariplay can be sent to [email protected] |
Posted By: Shakespeare
Date Posted: August 11 2007 at 09:48
| Gotchya. Lemme me know when it's up, I'd love to pop in there. |
Posted By: The T
Date Posted: August 11 2007 at 19:11
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Me too.... I have the key to success: find a coherent review-structure that you can always follow, that will help you perfect it and once you've mastered it you can focus in improving the actual content and grammar.... Then, even if you haven't achieved the latter goals like some of us, you can start to write long reviews and then, voila, when you have a good number of reviews of varied artists, you'll be a reviewer...
Oh, and answering the poll, NO... until he writes a 5-star review of the right group and a 1-star review of the right band.... ------------- 
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Posted By: Tuzvihar
Date Posted: August 11 2007 at 20:11
I noticed I also can do that. I reported it ( http://www.progarchives.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=40806 - http://www.progarchives.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=40806 ) and it's definitely a bug that will be fixed in the near future.  ------------- "Music is much like f**king, but some composers can't climax and others climax too often, leaving themselves and the listener jaded and spent." Charles Bukowski |
Posted By: Shakespeare
Date Posted: August 11 2007 at 20:14
| suckers |
Posted By: Tuzvihar
Date Posted: August 11 2007 at 20:20
No. I'm just honest. ------------- "Music is much like f**king, but some composers can't climax and others climax too often, leaving themselves and the listener jaded and spent." Charles Bukowski |
Posted By: Shakespeare
Date Posted: August 11 2007 at 20:22
| I'm only joking, I actually do have a lot of sympathy for those who [were] unable to edit old reviews: because I personally really understand the embarrassment a hasty or useless review. I actually use the edit tool way more than I should. |
Posted By: Angelo
Date Posted: August 12 2007 at 07:19
Hmm. I reported it three times over the past year - how's that for 'will be fixed in the near future'... Me thinks M@X has other priorities with respect to improvements at the moment. ------------- http://www.iskcrocks.com" rel="nofollow - ISKC Rock Radio I stopped blogging and reviewing - so won't be handling requests. Promo's for ariplay can be sent to [email protected] |
Posted By: Shakespeare
Date Posted: August 12 2007 at 12:48
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I don't think it matters, anyway, that the rest of the PA population has privileges only 4 stars and up should have. Who cares if we can all edit our reviews? In grand scheme of thing, it probably makes for more accurate and more better reviews. That's right, I said more better. |
Posted By: Trickster F.
Date Posted: August 12 2007 at 12:57
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lmao the more the merrier ahahaha ooooh ------------- sig |
Posted By: stonebeard
Date Posted: August 13 2007 at 01:41
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Really, the only advantage of being a PR or other collab is getting to see the secret collab zone, which really isn't as awesome as it sounds. Except for that one time Rico brought in a donkey with a riding crop.
------------- http://soundcloud.com/drewagler" rel="nofollow - My soundcloud. Please give feedback if you want! |
Posted By: Ricochet
Date Posted: August 13 2007 at 01:57
Corpse, not crop.  What about when we fight with sledgehammers? That's mildly something worth being a collaborator.  Did inpraiseoffolly recovered from that, by the way?  He didn't?!?!  -------------
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Posted By: rileydog22
Date Posted: August 13 2007 at 02:23
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Oh, THAT'S where Folly went! I hope he gets better, but it doesn't look good; Tony R. is pretty vicious with the sledgehammers. ------------- |
Posted By: Shakespeare
Date Posted: August 27 2007 at 09:59
| I wanna be............................................... |
Posted By: Chicapah
Date Posted: August 27 2007 at 11:14
I rather enjoy the red carpet treatment I get at 5 star restaurants because I'm an official prog reviewer. The free limos are cool, too!  ------------- "Literature is well enough, as a time-passer, and for the improvement and general elevation and purification of mankind, but it has no practical value" - Mark Twain |
Posted By: Shakespeare
Date Posted: August 27 2007 at 11:16
| ...........................SLEDGEHAMMER! |
Posted By: The Whistler
Date Posted: August 30 2007 at 05:20
I'll be your? ------------- "There seem to be quite a large percentage of young American boys out there tonight. A long way from home, eh? Well so are we... Gotta stick together." -I. Anderson |