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Topic: Tech-death
Posted By: DethMaiden
Subject: Tech-death
Date Posted: August 07 2007 at 19:24
What does everyone think of technical death metal bands such as Atheist, Cynic, Between the Buried and Me, later Death, and, despite being unrecognized by PA, Pestilence, Cephalic Carnage, and Phantasmagory?
 
I think this mini-genre is among the coolest in existence. Something about fusing genres like free-jazz and good old fashioned prog rock with death metal brings a smile to my face.
 
And don't mention Opeth, they're a completely different animal Wink



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Posted By: ProgBagel
Date Posted: August 07 2007 at 21:04
Love it to death...all the formentioned bands I listen to.

Necrophagist kicks too...and Decapitated.


Posted By: Prometheus
Date Posted: August 07 2007 at 21:05
technical death metal and jazz-metal fusion is incredible...but i have a slightly different list.
the classic three, Death, Athiest, and Cynic, are of course good  (but Cynic is the best, once you get used to the robotic vocal backing) but they get boring, i think. Death especially, since thier later stuff sounds so much like At The Gates, but without the ATG succinctness.
for my money, you have got to put Meshuggah up there, absolutely incredible, then genre-benders Ephel Duath (Italian Avant-Garde Jazz/Black-Metal fusion), and also a good dose of Unexpect (unclassifiable avant every-metal-you-can-imagine band)

also, less thechnical/extreme/jazzy, both Gojira and Aghora are just awesome

(haha, sorry, i think i pulled apart your rather clear-cut genre and added a bunch of wierd stuff)


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Posted By: Prometheus
Date Posted: August 07 2007 at 21:09
see, i just have a hard time with bands called "necrophagist" (especially since half the people i know that like them don't know what the term means), "cephalic carnage" (...again...), "Phantasmagory", etc.




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Posted By: The Miracle
Date Posted: August 07 2007 at 21:39
Wonderful stuff, deathmetal is one of my favorite non-prog genres actually, and the prog influences make it even more interesting.

I'd like to mention Cryptopsy, masterful tech-death(even if not prog) with an absolutely kickass drummer.


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Posted By: TheProgtologist
Date Posted: August 07 2007 at 21:49
I love progressive death,but people need to look beyond the standard Atheist,Death and Cynic recommendations and start investigating some killer newer bands in this amazing genre like:Ion Dissonance,Theory in Practice,Illogicist,Becoming the Archetype,Coprofago,Martyr,In-Quest,Anata,Psyopus,Gojira,,Sikth,Between the Buried and Me,Quo Vadis and Psycroptic,to name but a few.
 
Some of the instrumental acts in this genre like Behold...the Arctopus,Sleep Terror,Dysrhythmia and Continuo Renacer are amazing too.


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Posted By: jikai55
Date Posted: August 07 2007 at 22:11
Love it.


Posted By: DethMaiden
Date Posted: August 07 2007 at 22:17
Originally posted by Prometheus Prometheus wrote:


the classic three, Death, Athiest, and Cynic, are of course good  (but Cynic is the best, once you get used to the robotic vocal backing) but they get boring, i think. Death especially, since thier later stuff sounds so much like At The Gates, but without the ATG succinctness.
 
I really like At the Gates, and while I sorta see the comparison, I'll never get tired of the Big Three. Smile
 
As to silly band names, I don't give a damn what you call your band if I dig your music. Who's gonna argue that naming your band for the inventor of the mechanical reaper is a good idea? Wink


Posted By: DethMaiden
Date Posted: August 07 2007 at 22:18
And does anyone like the Red Chord? They're more of a tech-death/hardcore fusion, but I think Clients was probably among the top three or so albums of 2005 (even though the new one is disappointing)


Posted By: The Miracle
Date Posted: August 07 2007 at 22:19
Oh yes, ATG are amazing... SotS is one of my favorite metal albums ever.

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Posted By: el böthy
Date Posted: August 07 2007 at 22:27
Originally posted by TheProgtologist TheProgtologist wrote:

I love progressive death,but people need to look beyond the standard Atheist,Death and Cynic recommendations and start investigating some killer newer bands in this amazing genre like:Ion Dissonance,Theory in Practice,Illogicist,Becoming the Archetype,Coprofago,Martyr,In-Quest,Anata,Psyopus,Gojira,,Sikth,Between the Buried and Me,Quo Vadis and Psycroptic,to name but a few.
 
Some of the instrumental acts in this genre like Behold...the Arctopus,Sleep Terror,Dysrhythmia and Continuo Renacer are amazing too.

Man, this genre might just have the worst name bands ever LOLLOLLOLLOL


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Posted By: ProgBagel
Date Posted: August 07 2007 at 22:28
I didn't like ATG that much...they recycled their material a lot.
I've heard Red Chord also...good band.

And Edge of Sanity
Gorguts anyone?


Posted By: DethMaiden
Date Posted: August 07 2007 at 22:30
Originally posted by ProgBagel ProgBagel wrote:

I didn't like ATG that much...they recycled their material a lot.
I've heard Red Chord also...good band.

And Edge of Sanity
Gorguts anyone?
 
Ah I forgot them! Crimson and Obscura are both amazing albums!
 
Anyone heard Rune? They're a defunct band from Dayton that released two full-lengths and a split, kind of a Gorguts-meets-My Dying Bride sound, really good sh*t.


Posted By: Apsalar
Date Posted: August 07 2007 at 22:31
Originally posted by TheProgtologist TheProgtologist wrote:

I love progressive death,but people need to look beyond the standard Atheist,Death and Cynic recommendations and start investigating some killer newer bands in this amazing genre like:Ion Dissonance,Theory in Practice,Illogicist,Becoming the Archetype,Coprofago,Martyr,In-Quest,Anata,Psyopus,Gojira,,Sikth,Between the Buried and Me,Quo Vadis


Jody, would you liken any of these bands to Psycroptic? I remember the first time I saw them, they absolutely blew me away. Their old vocalist was amazing, he could alternate between high pitched screams to guttural belches to sounding peculiarly like a pig at the drop of a hat. One of the best things to come out of Tasmania.




Posted By: Bj-1
Date Posted: August 07 2007 at 22:31
Originally posted by ProgBagel ProgBagel wrote:


Gorguts anyone?
 
 
Been looking for albums by them, will buy if I stumble over some.


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Posted By: Apsalar
Date Posted: August 07 2007 at 22:34
Originally posted by Bj-1 Bj-1 wrote:

Originally posted by ProgBagel ProgBagel wrote:


Gorguts anyone?
 
 
Been looking for albums by them, will buy if I stumble over some.


Yes, yes, yes, their Obscura ('98) album is a stone cold classic.


Posted By: TheProgtologist
Date Posted: August 07 2007 at 22:37
Originally posted by el böthy el böthy wrote:

Originally posted by TheProgtologist TheProgtologist wrote:

I love progressive death,but people need to look beyond the standard Atheist,Death and Cynic recommendations and start investigating some killer newer bands in this amazing genre like:Ion Dissonance,Theory in Practice,Illogicist,Becoming the Archetype,Coprofago,Martyr,In-Quest,Anata,Psyopus,Gojira,,Sikth,Between the Buried and Me,Quo Vadis and Psycroptic,to name but a few.
 
Some of the instrumental acts in this genre like Behold...the Arctopus,Sleep Terror,Dysrhythmia and Continuo Renacer are amazing too.

Man, this genre might just have the worst name bands ever LOLLOLLOLLOL
 
Just about as bad as Sleeptyime Gorilla Museum,huh?


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Posted By: Proletariat
Date Posted: August 07 2007 at 22:38
The best Tech death band (IMO) is Cryptopsy however Necrophagiest, Psychroptic, and Gorguts are all great!!!
 
oh and the florida heroes Death Cynic and Athiest can't be beaten by anything


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Posted By: TheProgtologist
Date Posted: August 07 2007 at 22:39
Originally posted by Black Velvet Black Velvet wrote:

Originally posted by TheProgtologist TheProgtologist wrote:

I love progressive death,but people need to look beyond the standard Atheist,Death and Cynic recommendations and start investigating some killer newer bands in this amazing genre like:Ion Dissonance,Theory in Practice,Illogicist,Becoming the Archetype,Coprofago,Martyr,In-Quest,Anata,Psyopus,Gojira,,Sikth,Between the Buried and Me,Quo Vadis


Jody, would you liken any of these bands to Psycroptic? I remember the first time I saw them, they absolutely blew me away. Their old vocalist was amazing, he could alternate between high pitched screams to guttural belches to sounding peculiarly like a pig at the drop of a hat. One of the best things to come out of Tasmania.


 
All the ones I listed are similar to Psycroptic.


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Posted By: Bj-1
Date Posted: August 07 2007 at 22:40
Originally posted by Black Velvet Black Velvet wrote:

Originally posted by Bj-1 Bj-1 wrote:

Originally posted by ProgBagel ProgBagel wrote:


Gorguts anyone?
 
 
Been looking for albums by them, will buy if I stumble over some.


Yes, yes, yes, their Obscura ('98) album is a stone cold classic.
 
 
That's the one I'll get first. There are several other tech/death/jazz bands Im checking out now as well, such as Ephel Duath, Frantic Bleep, Alarum, Canvas Solaris etc.


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Posted By: Atavachron
Date Posted: August 07 2007 at 22:44
Originally posted by TheProgtologist TheProgtologist wrote:

Some of the instrumental acts in this genre like Behold...the Arctopus,Sleep Terror,Dysrhythmia and Continuo Renacer are amazing too.


these are the artists I love from this area too, though to me (perhaps because they have no singers) they fall more into the realm of Extreme Tech rather than Tech Death   


Posted By: Barla
Date Posted: August 07 2007 at 23:00
I like this genre very much, and there are some totally awesome drummers, for example Flo Mournier! Also, what do you think people of CRYPTOPSY and KRISIUN? For me, they're awesome, but they may be annoying to a lot of people because they're extremely heavy!!

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Posted By: heyitsthatguy
Date Posted: August 08 2007 at 01:29
Usually vocals get to me in the death genres with the exception of Opeth and Devin Townsend's solo material (and that's kind of different) but Cynic's Focus is an interesting album...the vocoder simultaneously makes it cooler and cheesier at the same time, like a jazz death version of Herbie Hancock

and Behold...The Arctopus is all kinds of amazing


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Posted By: Reverie
Date Posted: August 08 2007 at 02:23
Indeed, some of these bands are fantastic. As with anything, i think a lot of them can get over-technical and get a little lost, but there are some real gems about.

Actually i'm just checking out a band called The Faceless, on myspace, who may fit in this thread. It's been a while since i've been impressed with any newly discovered Death Metal.


Posted By: markosherrera
Date Posted: August 08 2007 at 03:07
I made some polls with death .tech metal bands ..in the  polls section


Posted By: TheProgtologist
Date Posted: August 08 2007 at 12:45
Originally posted by Reverie Reverie wrote:

Indeed, some of these bands are fantastic. As with anything, i think a lot of them can get over-technical and get a little lost, but there are some real gems about.

Actually i'm just checking out a band called The Faceless, on myspace, who may fit in this thread. It's been a while since i've been impressed with any newly discovered Death Metal.
 
The Faceless is awesome,they definitely fit the prog/tech death mold.


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Posted By: JayDee
Date Posted: August 08 2007 at 22:13
Originally posted by TheProgtologist TheProgtologist wrote:

I love progressive death,but people need to look beyond the standard Atheist,Death and Cynic recommendations and start investigating some killer newer bands in this amazing genre like:Ion Dissonance,Theory in Practice,Illogicist,Becoming the Archetype,Coprofago,Martyr,In-Quest,Anata,Psyopus,Gojira,,Sikth,Between the Buried and Me,Quo Vadis and Psycroptic,to name but a few.
 
Some of the instrumental acts in this genre like Behold...the Arctopus,Sleep Terror,Dysrhythmia and Continuo Renacer are amazing too.

Clap

One of my recent finds.Clap
Not exactly tech death, but loved it anyway.


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Posted By: DethMaiden
Date Posted: August 09 2007 at 21:32
Ha, my threads keep getting moved and I forget about them. But on the topic:
 
Nile are pretty techy, especially on the new album, Ithyphallic. I wouldn't call them tech death, they're still straight-up DM, but they're definitely doing something interesting with it. Highly recommended.


Posted By: spo1977
Date Posted: August 09 2007 at 22:54
I like Death.

Coroner is also good, unless they somehow do not fit the technical death category.


Posted By: magnus
Date Posted: August 10 2007 at 08:02
There is so much mindblowing music waiting to be found within the so-called "tech-death" genre! I've heard a lot of the bands mentioned, and many of them are incredibly good!

And I do believe Fredrik Thordendal's Special Defects deserve a mention in this thread, Sol Niger Within is a facemelting record! Along with Meshuggah, it's what made me decide to explore tech-death in the first place!


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