Come on baby, light my fire...
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Topic: Come on baby, light my fire...
Posted By: The Whistler
Subject: Come on baby, light my fire...
Date Posted: August 05 2007 at 00:31
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The Doors.
Yes, I know I'm supposed to be trying to appreciate the old bands (Yes, Van der Hammill, Genteel Giant), or, better yet, find something new for a change... Just as long as I'm not spamming about that Townshead moron or that Dio jerkoff, or that...flute player.
But, damn it, someone loaned me Morrison Hotel (sic), and I'll be darned if it ain't a great album! Why didn't someone tell me there was a downbeat band with a bloozy guitarist and a mediavel keyboardist playing a weird mix of genres? Doesn't that sound, like, totally up my alley dude?
So, I reckon I'll have to give this sucker back at some point. What are the highs...and lows...of Morrison and Company? ------------- "There seem to be quite a large percentage of young American boys out there tonight. A long way from home, eh? Well so are we... Gotta stick together." -I. Anderson |
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Posted By: Atavachron
Date Posted: August 05 2007 at 00:34
hmm, a Doors moment, how sweet... now put on some prog rock, man
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Posted By: The Whistler
Date Posted: August 05 2007 at 00:39
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Psh! I totally AM listening to prog! Uh, Long Live Rock 'n Roll dude? ------------- "There seem to be quite a large percentage of young American boys out there tonight. A long way from home, eh? Well so are we... Gotta stick together." -I. Anderson |
Posted By: Atavachron
Date Posted: August 05 2007 at 00:41
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actually it's good to get a solid foundation in classic rock, man, it really helps in your prog appreciation, man, so ignore my silliness.... man
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Posted By: The Whistler
Date Posted: August 05 2007 at 00:48
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...Man.
Coincidentally, I came to prog through my appreciation of 60's and 70's radio standards, so that's no biggie. ------------- "There seem to be quite a large percentage of young American boys out there tonight. A long way from home, eh? Well so are we... Gotta stick together." -I. Anderson |
Posted By: mrcozdude
Date Posted: August 05 2007 at 04:15
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the doors are awesome i've only got self titled and law women at the mo,but the end has to be one of the best songs ------------- http://www.last.fm/user/cozfunkel/" rel="nofollow"> 
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Posted By: TheProgtologist
Date Posted: August 05 2007 at 04:22
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Their debut,Strange Days and Waiting for the Sun are high points to me.
The Soft Parade is the only bad Doors album imo.
Morrison Hotel was a great bluesy,rock album.And I think an attempt to make up for the bland Soft Parade.
I am on the fence about LA Woman.It has some good tunes,but Morrison's voice was starting to suffer from his inexperience as a singer and his lifestyle and it shows. -------------  |
Posted By: BaldFriede
Date Posted: August 05 2007 at 04:32
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The doors actually made a lot of songs which were very proggy. "The End", "When the Music's Over", "Riders on the Storm", "Light My Fire", "Spanish Caravan" (which is based on a piece by Isaac Albeniz)" or even the short "Horse Latitudes", to name but a few.
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Posted By: mrcozdude
Date Posted: August 05 2007 at 04:37
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yeah well they have the same influences as prog artists like jazz,blues and tribal ------------- http://www.last.fm/user/cozfunkel/" rel="nofollow">
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Posted By: meinmatrix
Date Posted: August 05 2007 at 09:25
Title song from L.A.Woman is amazing prog-like journey i love especially the bass line in this song. Morrison maybe lost some range in his voice but he got that larger than life bluessound instead. ------------- 
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BaldFriede wrote:Posted By: Chicapah
Date Posted: August 05 2007 at 10:12
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My definition of prog seems to be broader than most so I definitely consider the Doors to qualify. Their first two albums are their best in my view. ------------- "Literature is well enough, as a time-passer, and for the improvement and general elevation and purification of mankind, but it has no practical value" - Mark Twain |
Posted By: Dean
Date Posted: August 05 2007 at 10:31
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I really like their version of the Alabama Song (Whiskey Bar) - one of Brecht's best and The End is very Brechtian IMO. I could have happily listened to a whole album of the Doors playing Brecht and Weill songs. ------------- What? |
Posted By: Raff
Date Posted: August 05 2007 at 10:41
 That song is absolutely amazing! I think Jim Morrison would've made a great Brecht-Weill singer, especially when his voice was still in good shape. The Doors' debut album is a masterpiece IMHO, while I'm not too crazy about "LA Woman", with the sole exception of the wonderful "Riders on the Storm" - one of my all-time favourite songs. |
Posted By: Ely78
Date Posted: August 05 2007 at 11:46
I love Jim Morrison. But for my standards Bryan Ferry is more sexy 
In every case The Doors is my preferred American Proto Prog band with Jefferson Airplane and Iron Butterfly!!! ------------- When the love becomes poetry, distant from the eyes (Quando l'Amore Diventa poesia/ Lontano Dagli occhi [Aphrodite's Child) |
Posted By: Tuzvihar
Date Posted: August 05 2007 at 12:26
 ^ Absolutely great live album! With The Celebration of the Lizard - Jim Morison's magnum opus never recorded in the studio as a whole! ------------- "Music is much like f**king, but some composers can't climax and others climax too often, leaving themselves and the listener jaded and spent." Charles Bukowski |
Posted By: The Whistler
Date Posted: August 06 2007 at 01:15
Yeah, them Butterflies rock. Almost pointlessly so.
Sounds like I'm hearing a lot about their debut, I reckon I'll look for that. ------------- "There seem to be quite a large percentage of young American boys out there tonight. A long way from home, eh? Well so are we... Gotta stick together." -I. Anderson |
Posted By: BroSpence
Date Posted: August 06 2007 at 01:47
| L.A Woman is probably best to follow up with after hearing Morrison Hotel. Those two and Soft Parade are my favs. |
Posted By: memowakeman
Date Posted: August 06 2007 at 12:21
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The Doors is one of my all time favorite bands, it is probably the only band i caught from my fatherīs tastes.
I like all their albums, even The Soft Parade, which obviously is far from being their best, but i do not find it that bad, the title track is a fantastic song.
Strange Days is my favorite album, and When the Musicīs Over the song i complete love and drives me crazy everytime i listen to it.
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Posted By: meinmatrix
Date Posted: August 07 2007 at 03:40
I had original version of Absolutely Live as vinyl, album cover was blue and you could open up sleeves showing more pictures of band. -------------
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Posted By: Zargus
Date Posted: August 07 2007 at 12:31
the debut and Strange days are the 2 best albums especialy if you like the "mediavel keyboardist" but all the 6 albums they made are realy good and shuld be in every music collection. Great band!  ------------- 
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Posted By: #1floydfan
Date Posted: August 08 2007 at 12:47
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great band but jim morrison stole all the glory does any one even know any one else who was in the band!!! ------------- http://www.last.fm/user/jimbobismykitty/?chartstyle=basicrt10 - [IMG - http://imagegen.last.fm/basicrt10/recenttracks/jimbobismykitty.gif - |
Posted By: rushfan4
Date Posted: August 08 2007 at 14:53
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Ray Manzarek. (And Ian Astbury from the Cult, but that is most obviously post-Morrison).
They had a 2-CD Best of the Doors set which is pretty good. Like with any "Best of" it doesn't have all of the best of the Doors (Peace Frog comes to mind), but it does have a good many of them. ------------- 
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Posted By: Tuzvihar
Date Posted: August 08 2007 at 15:19
Maybe he did but he never wanted to do it! And of course I know all members of the Doors: Jim Morrison, Ray Manzarek, Robby Krieger, John Densmore. All of them were great! ------------- "Music is much like f**king, but some composers can't climax and others climax too often, leaving themselves and the listener jaded and spent." Charles Bukowski |
Posted By: Tuzvihar
Date Posted: August 08 2007 at 15:20
BTW, does anybody know that Ray Manzarek is Polish? 
------------- "Music is much like f**king, but some composers can't climax and others climax too often, leaving themselves and the listener jaded and spent." Charles Bukowski |
Posted By: micky
Date Posted: August 08 2007 at 15:27
really...I thought he was from LA... ------------- The Pedro and Micky Experience - When one no longer requires psychotropics to trip |
Posted By: Tuzvihar
Date Posted: August 08 2007 at 15:31
He's a son of Polish emigrants from Chicago. ------------- "Music is much like f**king, but some composers can't climax and others climax too often, leaving themselves and the listener jaded and spent." Charles Bukowski |
Posted By: Fassbinder
Date Posted: August 08 2007 at 17:02
I never pronounced his surname as MAnzarek, only ManzArek. All the words in Polish have a penultimate stress...
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Posted By: Fassbinder
Date Posted: August 08 2007 at 17:07
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As for The Doors as the band -- it is one of my all-time favourite bands, already for 18 years. I like all their albums, and some of their songs are simply precious for me. It'll take too long to name all these songs...
And, despite the fact that Morrison was a real leader of the group, I always perceived them as a group, not as Morrison & Co.
Eugene
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Posted By: BaldJean
Date Posted: August 08 2007 at 22:58
Ray Manzarek - organ, Robby Krieger -guitar and John Densmore - drums. of course I know them all -------------  A shot of me as High Priestess of Gaia during our fall festival. Ceterum censeo principiis obsta |
Posted By: The Whistler
Date Posted: August 10 2007 at 00:24
Ah yes, local boys. That always raises 'em a point in my book. Whydja think I like Carmen so much? ------------- "There seem to be quite a large percentage of young American boys out there tonight. A long way from home, eh? Well so are we... Gotta stick together." -I. Anderson |
Posted By: Dim
Date Posted: August 10 2007 at 01:46
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I cant stand the doors at all, just another buch of druggies that made a couple hits.
No musicianship
The songwriting is very bad, as to where people say it's some of the best! ------------- 
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Posted By: Zargus
Date Posted: August 10 2007 at 04:24
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Who gives a ... about musicianship as long it rock's n roll's? The Stones didenth have the best "musicianship" ither but they still managed to become the greatest rock band ever. And you probobly never heard a doors album anyway.. they made 6 great albums and yes a cuple of hits too, one of the best rock bands americas ever hade imo. -------------
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Posted By: andu
Date Posted: August 10 2007 at 08:13
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The Doors, no musicianship? Well... F*** me!  ------------- "PA's own GI Joe!" 
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Posted By: Paradox
Date Posted: August 18 2007 at 09:52
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I don't much like the Doors either. As many here would say, I find them "Overrated". Admittedly I haven't listened to many of their songs, but thats because I thought the ones I HAD heard were mainly very poor. ------------- 
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Posted By: The Whistler
Date Posted: August 20 2007 at 01:12
'Tis one thing to preach, but another to pray, eh?
Er, sorry, I mean, what qualities of the band do you find overrated? Poor melodies? Poor style? Poor...diet? Jimmy DID put on some weight later on... ------------- "There seem to be quite a large percentage of young American boys out there tonight. A long way from home, eh? Well so are we... Gotta stick together." -I. Anderson |