Discover an Unfamilliar Artist
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Topic: Discover an Unfamilliar Artist
Posted By: bhikkhu
Subject: Discover an Unfamilliar Artist
Date Posted: July 29 2007 at 15:31
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My other threads were supposed to be about discussing lesser-known artists, but they were deemed as suggestion topics, and moved. This one will be for the seekers, and will be for open discussion.
What artist have you always been curious about, but didn't know where to start asking questions? This will be the place. Ask about anyone, and I encourage all who know to join in with what they have to offer. Any information is welcome. History of a band, related projects, fun facts, live experiences, are all things that can paint a good picture. So to the curious, ask away. To the initiated, here's a chance to flex some prog muscle.  ------------- a.k.a. H.T. http://riekels.wordpress.com" rel="nofollow - http://riekels.wordpress.com |
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Posted By: R o V e R
Date Posted: July 29 2007 at 15:46
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PFM
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Posted By: bhikkhu
Date Posted: July 29 2007 at 15:59
There you go. That's a good one to start with.  There should be plenty of people around here to tell you everything you want to know about this band.
PFM stands for Premiata Forneria Marconi. If I remember correctly, they took the name from a local bakery. As is usually the case with longer names, it got reduced to an anagram. It became so familiar that they even started using just the initials on albums. They were one of the originators of the Italian Progressive movement of the early '70s. They had a lot in common with the British bands (E.L.P, King Crimson, Yes, Genesis), but they also had an element that made them distinctly Italian. They also followed suit, fell into the '80s curse, and released some very poppy music. However, they have bounced back, and are currently recording excellent music again. Their 2006 album, while not sounding much like the '70s material, is one of the best they have ever done. PFM was my first Introduction to Italian prog, and I'm sure others would agree it is a great place to start. I now have many other Italian bands, but Premiata Forneria Marconi will always have a special place for being the first. ------------- a.k.a. H.T. http://riekels.wordpress.com" rel="nofollow - http://riekels.wordpress.com |
Posted By: Ricochet
Date Posted: July 29 2007 at 16:03
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Give me an insight of Hectic Watermelon, bitteschön. ------------- 
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Posted By: Finnforest
Date Posted: July 29 2007 at 16:40
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PFM is an amazingly lush symphonic experience that rivals any of the top English bands in my view. If you like a modern sound, try "Stati". If you're a 70s fan try Storia or Per Un Amico. If you want to see them live try the 2002 DVD live in Japan. PFM doesn't dissapoint too many prog fans. ------------- ...that moment you realize you like "Mob Rules" better than "Heaven and Hell" |
Posted By: Easy Livin
Date Posted: July 29 2007 at 16:58
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It's a nice thought Bhikku, but I'm puzzled what you think this thread will offer which the biographies and reviews do not already accomplish. What am I missing?
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Posted By: Dim
Date Posted: July 29 2007 at 17:18
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Uh, how about you explain to me... ISIS ------------- 
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Posted By: Prometheus
Date Posted: July 29 2007 at 19:21
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Easy Livin -- if i get bhikku correctly, he's just trying to breath life into a message board that tends toward idiocy and fandom (as well as that rather uninspiring debate over what "progressive" means) as for Schizoid Man -- <<disclaimer,:im not a musician, i just like what i hear...>> Isis is one of the forerunning Post-Metal bands; as such it represents an amalgamation in its use of long building arrangements, much in the way of Post-Rock, but does so with the use of Metal instrumentation and common Metal elements. think moderately slow, meditative, guitar based songs with an emphasis on texture and the utilization of harsh/raspy vocals. thier best album is Panopticon, which is a very addicting album once you get into it, but other good ones are "Oceanic" and "In the Absence of Truth". but now i have an Isis question... where do they get their album names from, at least for Oceanic and Panopticon. i ask because both terms yield incredible connection to modern history: Panopticon, unless it is mean to simply mean "ass-seeing" as it literally translates to, could be a connection to Jeremy Bentham's prison design, a design that was supposed to subdue the inmate by making them feel as though they are always under observation (hence the meditativeness and angst of the album, perhaps). Oceanic could mean simply that, a sensation of the oceanic, or it could be a reference to Sigmund Freud who, in "civilization and its discontents", rues the absence of such a sensation in his life (again...seems to tie into the meditative angst of the album...) ------------- "Tell me why world, unfathomable and good, The beauty of everything is infinite and cruel." --Kayo Dot |
Posted By: Proletariat
Date Posted: July 29 2007 at 19:34
Well prometeius, I personally think that Isis just chooses words that sound cool, kinda like how Tool names their songs.
I have recently been wanting to get into the math rock genre, could someone fill me in on Hella and Dan Cabellero. ------------- who hiccuped endlessly trying to giggle but wound up with a sob |
Posted By: chamberry
Date Posted: July 29 2007 at 19:59
Personally speaking I don't think both bands are that great for introduction into the genre, but they're one of the best in what they do. From Don Caballero I've only heard their Don Caballero 2 album. It harsh, raw, complex and just plain ugly (in a good way). It has some industrial influences as well in some songs. The thing I like about the genre is that the songs are always moving somewhere. They never have a solid ground (or in this case a time signature) to play in. The same can be said about Hella, but they are lighter and less raw than Don Caballero, but the idea is still present. They're more quirky and listening to it just makes you want to dance like if you where having an epileptic attack. I find Hella more accessible than Don Caballero. The best place to start with them is with their debut, Hold Your Horse Is. There are other math rock bands that tend to heavier or even softer than these two, but that's for another discussion. By the way, I highly recommend you check out the band Oxes while searching the genre. Their second album, Oxxxes, is very addicting and one of the albums that made me more interested in the genre. ------------- 
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Proletariat wrote:Posted By: King Hippo
Date Posted: July 29 2007 at 20:02
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Explain to me.... Versailles.
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Posted By: Proletariat
Date Posted: July 29 2007 at 20:03
I will definatelly check out Oxes. another question, does Don Caballero sound like Battles at all, I know that the bands are related and I like Battles ------------- who hiccuped endlessly trying to giggle but wound up with a sob |
Posted By: chamberry
Date Posted: July 29 2007 at 20:07
From the samples I've heard of Battles they don't sound alike. Battles seemed more colorful while Don Caballero's sound is like black and white. I hope that made sense to you. There's a streamable song from Don Caballero in their band page here in PA so check it out if curious. -------------
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Posted By: progismylife
Date Posted: July 29 2007 at 20:14
Very good jazz/rock fusion...the only album (so far) has Jerry Goodman as a guest on violin...he's on 9 of the tracks. It's mostly an instrumental album (only one song has vocals). It can be a little hectic in spots (hence the name Hectic Watermelon)...but overall is a great jazz/rock fusion album. And the guitar is the main focus and it is brilliant playing, but can get a bit metal-like (not fully metal but kind of close). Read http://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=15114 - Angelo's review |
Posted By: bhikkhu
Date Posted: July 29 2007 at 23:20
Simply, open discussion. You may get a few answers from reviews, but it's not like getting a direct response to a question, is it? There are also people who have not written reviews that still have some good info. Another thing is response to an opinion. You can't reference another review when reviewing. Here you can respond to an earlier statement. Hope that clears it up. 
------------- a.k.a. H.T. http://riekels.wordpress.com" rel="nofollow - http://riekels.wordpress.com |
Posted By: Prometheus
Date Posted: July 30 2007 at 00:07
yea, thats what i figured myself (although the Tool jab was unnecessary) but i just really want it to be that they planned it... (Tool would have...) as for math rock, i suggest you take a trip out to www.epitonic.com and find your way to math rock through the genre section...most every band has a downloadable mp3 and i believe both bands are in there, certainly the Don. (also try Volto Do Mar and The Redneck Manifesto) ------------- "Tell me why world, unfathomable and good, The beauty of everything is infinite and cruel." --Kayo Dot |
Posted By: Ivan_Melgar_M
Date Posted: July 30 2007 at 00:24
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Great idea HT, some of us are obsessed with certain bands and have a bit more of information or even know a couple of Prog artists and got some information from them that we could share, but over all this is the chance for some Prog musicians in the Forum to come out and give us some valuable and juicy information.
Now is your chance guys, people want to know about you.
 Iván ------------- 
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Posted By: kazansky
Date Posted: July 30 2007 at 00:42
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i'd like to know about Maudlin of the Well ------------- The devil we blame our atrocities on is really just each one of us. |
Posted By: Atavachron
Date Posted: July 30 2007 at 00:44
Oxes s/t album from 2000 is also excellent... and all the Don Cab CDs are worth it; Don Caballero 2, Singles Breaking Up, American Don, World Class Listening Problem-- other great Math Rockers to look into are the Hosemobile, Sweep the Leg Johnny, Sleeping People, Autoclave, June of 44, Maps and Atlases, and the math metal band Dysrhythmia. |
Posted By: chamberry
Date Posted: July 30 2007 at 02:24
Great avant-metal band! They're one of my favorites from the genre if you can tell by my (poorly written) reviews. They have their soft moments and their loud moments, but the soft ones are really soft and the loud ones are full-on-head-banging-loud. These two dynamics in their sound are well mixed and they never seem out of place (well, maybe at first, but you'll get used to it). Bath has more softer songs and it's my personal favorite, although Leaving Your Body Map is as excellent as Bath, but with more heavier songs. I haven't heard their debut thought, but I've been told it isn't as great as their last two. Highly recommended. -------------
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Posted By: auralsun
Date Posted: July 30 2007 at 02:44
I like to think of maudlin of the Well and Kayo Dot somewhat as the same band, as when listening to both bands' discographies the natural progression of the bands' music becomes evident. Toby Driver is the musical mastermind behind both of these bands, though in maudlin of the Well his dominance is slightly less pronounced. In maudlin of the Well, Jason Byron was in charge of the lyrics, keyboards, and some vocals, while guitarist Greg Massi took a part in writing some of the music. There's also a very prominent avant-garde classical influence present in Kayo Dot's music that is mostly absent from maudlin of the Well's. maudlin of the Well is predominantly a metal band, though they often stray into other musical territories, and indeed the musical palette of the band is quite eclectic. They have plenty of soft parts in their music, but not in the same way as Opeth, for example. They have four interludes on their lattter two albums that are in this idiom. I can pretty much guarantee that even their predominantly metal stuff will have little no resemblance to anything else you've heard. maudlin of the Well's first album is a bit immature, and is not up to par with the rest of Driver's recent work. The production is also not nearly as polished as motW's latter two albums, which were produced and released at the same time. An interesting curio about maudlin of the Well's music is that Driver claims most of the composition was aided with the use of astral projection. Interlude 4 was apparently entirely dreamt. I'm not really sure how this works, exactly~ As far as I know, maudlin of the Well was Driver's first serious band, though he had produced music as a solo artist for many years under the name "Spoonion," although most of this work is too amateurish to really be taken seriously. He also has two other major sideprojects: his solo work, which is basically weird avant-garde classical/soundscapes, and Tartar Lamb, which is an avant-garde classical electric guitar/violin duo. Along with Mark Hollis, Toby Driver is probably my favorite musical force of the last ten years or so. |
Posted By: kazansky
Date Posted: July 30 2007 at 03:01
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i read somewhere that Kayo Dot is actually some sort of continuation of MotW. Surprisingly, based on what i've heard (samples of both bands in this site), i don't like Kayo Dot at all, whereas i quite like MotW's samples. I'm kind of interested because they're sometimes compared with Unexpect (is this true?).
thanks, man! ------------- The devil we blame our atrocities on is really just each one of us. |
Posted By: LeInsomniac
Date Posted: July 30 2007 at 11:26
eheh let us discuss... Mr.Bungle.
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Happy Family One Hand Clap, Four Went On But None Came Back |
Posted By: auralsun
Date Posted: July 30 2007 at 11:55
Yeah, Toby Driver decided to change the band name since he wanted to take a somewhat new musical direction and because it was convenient given that they were changing labels. The only band member the two bands have in common these days is Driver though. They have some things in common with Unexpect in terms of instrumentation and eclecticism, but the musical aesthetic and song structure of the two bands is quite different. The best way I could describe to you the band's music is to tell you to listen to two mp3s available on the band's MySpace and this site's band profile. Birth Pains of Astral Projection and Heaven and Weak are probably the best depictions of what the band is like. |
Posted By: #1floydfan
Date Posted: July 30 2007 at 12:36
Mr. bungle scares me.... thats about it....
i think we should talk about a very underated band sieges even.....
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Posted By: Niki ( IO )
Date Posted: July 30 2007 at 12:55
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Good opportunity...I would like to know about Frank Zappa and Rush and the main "Canterbury Scene" bands...( Unfamiliar artists... ) http://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=7204 - ------------- IO |
Posted By: VanderGraafKommandöh
Date Posted: July 30 2007 at 13:09
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Niki, do you want to know the history of the Canterbury Scene, or which albums to start with in your listening journey? Mojo Magazine have just had a top ten Canterbury Scene buyers guide in their recent addition, the top ten is: 10. Khan - Space Shanty 9. National Health - Of Queues and Cures 8. Soft Machine - Third 7. Gong - Camembert Electrique 6. Caravan - In the Land of Grey and Pink 5. Robert Wyatt - Rock Bottom 4. Kevin Ayers - The Joy of a Toy 3. Caravan - If I Could Do it All Over Again, I'd Do It All Over You 2. Hatfield and the North - Rotters' Club 1. Soft Machine - Volume One and Two Which is not that far off for a list, actually. Now where to start with Canterbury? Well the problem with the Canterbury Scene is that it doesn't represent a sound so much, so if you like one album, it doesn't necessarily mean you'll like other albums. For a sense of what the scene originally was about, check out Caravan's 2nd and 3rd albums and then listen to Soft Machine's first two. From there, I would say travel the astro-plane and listen to some early Gong and Kevin Ayers. Then it's time for Wyatt's Rock Bottom. After that, the music will become more jazz-orientated (Soft Machine's Third and onwards, Nucleus albums, Gong's later albums and even Robert Wyatt and Caravan get jazzier), so if you're not so keen on jazz, approach the latter titles with caution. If course, if you like jazz, then it maybe more beneficial to start with these latter releases and work backwards. I do not know much Zappa or Rush, so somebody else will have to talk about them. -------------   
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Posted By: LeInsomniac
Date Posted: July 30 2007 at 13:38
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About Zappa i can tell you this, start with Overnite-sensations and from on then if you like what you hear its up to you to get the rest of the albums, Zappa is an artist which can appeal to a lot of different styles of music fans, but his general approach is experimental rock and jazz so if you´re not that good fan of experimental and jazz, its difficult to like Zappa, but for your sake as a music listener, not just prog try frankie zappa ; about Rush start with Moving Pictures or 2112, either choice is the best to start.
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Posted By: Aspiring hope
Date Posted: July 30 2007 at 13:46
I think this is a great idea.  for bhikkuh.
So, in the spirit of enlightenment, could someone fill me in on Meshuggah, their best qualities, appeal and albums to start on? Also, this band isn't listed on PA, so would anyone like to discuss Maximum Indifference? As to Isis, I'd like to add that their themes brim with intertwined stories of inteligently - or at the very least, interesting - crafted characters/concepts that inconspicuously starr in their albums, furthering its mysterious meaning through more or less subtle connections between albums. For example, the control towers story present in Celestial and SGNL>05. Although, I'm not a fairly devoted fan myself, thus I cannot provide much more than what I've pointed out above. -------------  |
Posted By: Ivan_Melgar_M
Date Posted: July 30 2007 at 13:50
Mr Bumgle as any Mike Patton project is an aggression to the senses, Death metal, Avant, RIO, Tango and more, none of them exclusively and all of them at the same time.
Only for people willing to push the boundaries of music.
Start with Disco Volante.
If you like it maybe should try The Director's Cut by Fantomas, their version of Rosemary's Baby really freaks anybody.
Iván -------------
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Posted By: Aspiring hope
Date Posted: July 30 2007 at 13:58
I only own A Sense of Change and, from what I was able to hear, they're not underated at all: it's an excellent album, bringing technical proficiency of the Holzwarths' tight rhythmns composed to draw beauty and - to me, anyway - a sense of serenity in their association with the inspiring vocals of Jogi Kaiser and Markus Steffen's lyrical content (not to mention his fair skills as a guitarist); and sharing my view or not, the majority seems to recognize its 5/4 star worth, thankfully ------------- |
Posted By: Proletariat
Date Posted: July 30 2007 at 15:30
Meshuggah is BRUTAL, so if you dont like death metal and thrash then stay away. The music is verry dissonant with no sence of melody, however they make up for it in the rythm department where complicated polly rhythms are churned out of blasting doubble bass madness. People often compart them to Tool, but beware they sound nothing alike.
edit: I is generally considered their best work, its probably best to start there, or with the latter albums as the earlyer ones are even more dissonant and unrelenting ------------- who hiccuped endlessly trying to giggle but wound up with a sob |
Posted By: glass house
Date Posted: July 30 2007 at 16:15
More on Meshuggah; imagine brutal staccato like riffs and all of a sudden it stops and goes into a grazy jazz like solo. After that more grazy riffs. The vocals are unbelievable strong. He sort of roars more then sings  . I've seen them live and they were very very good.
Just listen to the Future Breed Machine stream of their Destroy Erase Improve cd and you'll get the drift.
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Posted By: moonlitbay
Date Posted: July 30 2007 at 17:04
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Anyone heard of a band called Session, they ar efrom th enorthern part of Norway.
Released a record called "somewhere in between", and are very infuenced by Pink Floyd. ------------- A reunion.......it will never happen in my lifetime!! |
Posted By: 1800iareyay
Date Posted: July 30 2007 at 19:47
I',m going to try to get into post rock, so tell me about Sigur Ros, who seem to be the kings of that sub-genre. MAybe which album I should start with, etc.
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Posted By: epictetus1
Date Posted: July 30 2007 at 20:00
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Posted By: Proletariat
Date Posted: July 30 2007 at 20:09
I would dissagree about Sigur Ros being the kings, but they are a good place to start. The defining feature of the band is the etherial vocals in Hopelandic (jibberish). The music is atmospheric and not verry demanding. The best place to start is probably Takk, while its not their best work its the most accessable, and by all means avoid starting with ( ), it may seem cool but it is known for turning people off to the band.
Seeing as you are a metal fan I would suggest the Red Sparrowes as an inroduction because they are the most mettalic of the bands that are still good representitives of post-rock ------------- who hiccuped endlessly trying to giggle but wound up with a sob |
Posted By: 1800iareyay
Date Posted: July 30 2007 at 20:13
| Thanks, Ryan |
Posted By: LeInsomniac
Date Posted: July 30 2007 at 21:16
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I knowb who Mr.Bungle is, I have the album Disco Volante which for me is a masterpiece, I just wanted to start a discussion about them so that all persons that dont know them might want to start listening to them, or just to discuss their music with fellow proggers about their sound but Iván preety much sayed everything
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Posted By: chamberry
Date Posted: July 30 2007 at 22:56
I approve this comment. I will also recommend Russian Circle for fans of Prog Metal, although the album is more metal than post-rock and you may get the wrong impression of the genre. -------------
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Posted By: VanderGraafKommandöh
Date Posted: July 30 2007 at 23:00
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I recommend Bossk as a great post-metal band. I've seen them live a few times too. Wonderful band.
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Posted By: fuxi
Date Posted: July 31 2007 at 04:15
I believe ONE SIZE FITS ALL would be a better bet. Not only is it stronger and more varied than OVERNITE SENSATION, it's also one of the true symphonic prog masterpieces, easily on the same level as CLOSE TO THE EDGE or FOXTROT, and overlooked ONLY because Zappa's mainly known (rightly or wrongly) as an avant-rock composer. You're bound to like OSFA - and after that you can let our reviews section guide you! As for that Canterbury Top 10: it's simply astonishing!!! Sometimes Mojo do get things right. |
Posted By: Aspiring hope
Date Posted: July 31 2007 at 07:42
Thanks guys, I'll try to get a hold of I and try out the mp3 stream. ------------- |
Posted By: Rocktopus
Date Posted: July 31 2007 at 08:08
A very good list. here's mine. 10.Caravan - If I Could Do it All Over Again, I'd Do It All Over You 9. Egg - Civil Surface 8. Supersister - Present for Nancy 7. Gong - You 6. Picchio dal Pozzo - St 5. Cos - Postaolean Train Robbery 4. National Health - St 3. Soft Machine - Third 2. Hatfield and the North - Rotters' Club 1. Robert Wyatt - Rock Bottom Now, can anyone tell me where to start with Ruins? Heard the stuff on Myspace, which was ok. I suspect they can be better. ------------- Over land and under ashes In the sunlight, see - it flashes Find a fly and eat his eye But don't believe in me Don't believe in me Don't believe in me |
Posted By: Dieu
Date Posted: July 31 2007 at 11:45
I got http://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=4398 - Hyderomastgroningem and I think it's really a masterpiece. And the audio quality is really good too. Because of the sample on this PA, I really wanted "Burning Stones" and I finally got it from eBay. It's not as intense as Hydero. I also got the Live 2000 but the sound is not very good. ------------- Only sick music makes money today. - Friedrich Nietzsche (1844 - 1900) |
Posted By: Dieu
Date Posted: July 31 2007 at 11:50
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I bought "Six Litanies For Heliogabalus" from JOHN ZORN yesterday. Goddammit! And I tought Meshuggah was intense! It's just really crazy. I got it because of "Disco Volante" (Patton make voices on both). Now Mr.Bungle sound like a gentle band.
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Posted By: Vibrationbaby
Date Posted: July 31 2007 at 11:58
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I`ve tried to find this out through a number of sources including this site for years. Does anybody out there know what happened to guitar wizard Houschang Nejadepour after his 6 month stint with Guru Guru in`74?
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Posted By: Proletariat
Date Posted: July 31 2007 at 13:12
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Posted By: Ivan_Melgar_M
Date Posted: July 31 2007 at 13:54
Now try The Director's Cut by Fantomas, Patton gets extreme and you will find how great feels to be shocked with some familiar tunes.
Iván -------------
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Posted By: 1800iareyay
Date Posted: July 31 2007 at 14:51
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Hmm, never would have pegged Ivan for a Patton fan, but hey, the more the merrier.
This is a good thread.Now I've got to try John Zorn, Red Sparrowes, Sigur Ros, and the Canterbury Scene. Nice idea, HT
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Posted By: Garion81
Date Posted: July 31 2007 at 15:26
I would also recommend Roxy and Elsewhere to the mix for a starter. It has a wide variety of styles, some really funny skits and in my opinion Zappa's best band. A very good collection to start off in. ------------- 
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Posted By: Ivan_Melgar_M
Date Posted: July 31 2007 at 15:48
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I have a task, sadly I can’t do it today, maybe somebody will be able. I Added the album One World Tapestry – Progressive Rock Around the World some days ago, it’s a sampler album for charity purpose. http://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=15899 This album has a lot of Prog Folk artists, that I don’t know if all are in Prog Archives, maybe somebody could check if some are missing and better if knows something about some of them so Sean can add more musicians. IMHO the album is outstanding and there’s lot of good music. 1. Waak Waak Jungi (Australia) 2. In The Labyrinth (Swden) 3. Jose Luis Fernandez Ledesma (Mexico) 4. Steve Warner (Australia) 5. Steve Unruh (USA) 6. Topeka (USA) 7. Wiermann & Vogel (Quaterna Requiem) (Brazil) 8. Ensemble Nimbus (Sweden) 9. Styrbjorn Bergelt & Roland Hakansson (Sweden) 10. Vital Duo (France) 11. Attila Kollar (Hungary) 12. Robert Erdesz (Hungary) 13. Brainstorm (Australia) 14. Pocos & Nuvens (Brazil) 15. Sabah Habas Mustapha & Jugala All Stars (Germany/Indonesia)
The ones in red are here, the others I haven’t checked. Thanks Iván -------------
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Posted By: chamberry
Date Posted: July 31 2007 at 16:25
Actually Iván, John Zorn's Crowley trilogy (Moonchild, Astronome and Six Litanies...) are the best wordless vocals performances from Patton, in my opinion. Listening to the chocking effects on Astronome or his "solo" in Six Litanies is something quite impressive (in a weird way, of course). -------------
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Posted By: avestin
Date Posted: July 31 2007 at 16:59
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@ Ivan,
The following are here:
2. In The Labyrinth (Swden)
5. Steve Unruh (USA) (released a new album recently) 7. Wiermann & Vogel (Quaterna Requiem) (Brazil) Well, Quaterna are here, so I'm not sure what to make of this. Is this a seperate group? 10. Vital Duo (France) (nice medieval folk) 13. Brainstorm (Australia) ------------- http://hangingsounds.blogspot.com/" rel="nofollow - Hanging Sounds http://www.progarchives.com/ProgRockShopping.asp" rel="nofollow - PA Index of prog music vendors |
Posted By: Rocktopus
Date Posted: July 31 2007 at 17:15
Thanks! I'll try and find it. They got some great song and albumtitles. Have loved every other bandproject Tatsuya Yoshida (I've heard) has been involved in. ------------- Over land and under ashes In the sunlight, see - it flashes Find a fly and eat his eye But don't believe in me Don't believe in me Don't believe in me |
Posted By: Ivan_Melgar_M
Date Posted: July 31 2007 at 18:22
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Then I guess we have many unfamiliar Folk bands to check or receive information about if somebody is familiar, if I'm not wrong we don't have in Prog Archives:
1. Waak Waak Jungi (Australia)
2. Jose Luis Fernandez Ledesma (Mexico)
3. Steve Warner (Australia)
4. Styrbjorn Bergelt & Roland Hakansson (Sweden)
6. Sabah Habas Mustapha & Jugala All Stars (Germany/Indonesia) So probably we have six Prog Folk certified bands from the Musea rooster that could be added.
The next step would be to invite Sean to this thread and see if somebody knows about this bands (I will PM him tonight),
That would be a great achievement for a thread that started to discover unknown bands and a help to Sean who has to deal alone with Prog Folk.
Any volunteer to search?
Iván
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Posted By: Shakespeare
Date Posted: July 31 2007 at 18:27
| Das Anekdoten? Gewde stuphs? Describe das muzics, please. I have no idea what they sound like, what kind of music fan they will appeal to, et cetera. Would be appreciated. |
Posted By: VanderGraafKommandöh
Date Posted: July 31 2007 at 19:15
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Iván, I have a Jose Luis Fernandez Ledesma Q album. I've not heard it yet, but he was in the Mexican prog-folk band Nirgal Vallis. The album I have (Sol Central) of his is in partnership with Margarita Botello and is actually an RIO/Avant-Prog album. Apparently the rest of his output is more prog-folk. -------------
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Posted By: 1800iareyay
Date Posted: July 31 2007 at 19:30
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Posted By: Ivan_Melgar_M
Date Posted: July 31 2007 at 21:27
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Maybe somebody is interested to search as James, so here is the info provided in the album about this artists as a first step:
Maybe this could lead to additions?
Any volunteer to search?
Iván
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Posted By: Atkingani
Date Posted: July 31 2007 at 21:35
Assaf,
Elisa Wirmann & Kleber Vogel are QR members (in fact, keyboardist Wirmann is one of the few woman band leaders around). The duo produced their album and registered with their names but it appears in the QR webpage as a QR's release... IMO this album should be added under the QR umbrella just like Mike Portnoy's was added under the LTE entry.
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Posted By: Apsalar
Date Posted: July 31 2007 at 21:37
Iván, I would assume this is the band you are talking about http://www.waakwaakjungi.com/ - http://www.waakwaakjungi.com/ ? If so I don't think they are suitable for this site, but this is my opinion, best to check it out. There are some sound samples under audio. |
Posted By: Ivan_Melgar_M
Date Posted: July 31 2007 at 21:46
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Thanks Guigo, I knew you would reply in this thread because you PMd me about this same issue.
Black Velvet wrote:
Thanks for the interest BV,. I don't know much about Prog Folk and of course much less about Waak Waak Jungi (Only heard one song in the album), this thread was started by HT to wake people, there's lot of prog out there that could be added, sometimes in a simple compilation like this album.
If only 2 or 3 bands are really 100% Prog and can be added, it would be great, at this moment and thanks to Guigo we know there's an album that should be added to Quaterna Requiem.
If Waak Waak Jungi is not Prog and you can provide valuable information, great, because the last thing we want is to add a wrong band.
But I hope somebody knows this bands and can tell us if one or more are Prog, then in coordination with Sean, they can be added.
I wish we could do this in daily bases, but wioth the Symphonic work, we have our free time limited.
Thanks for the interest.
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Posted By: Apsalar
Date Posted: August 01 2007 at 02:25
| ^^^ No worries, send the site through to Hugues, as I also know little about prog folk myself. Some more knowledgeable views would be beneficial. |
Posted By: Sean Trane
Date Posted: August 01 2007 at 04:34
Read and added to the team thread! ------------- let's just stay above the moral melee prefer the sink to the gutter keep our sand-castle virtues content to be a doer as well as a thinker, prefer lifting our pen rather than un-sheath our sword |
Posted By: mandrake_gr
Date Posted: August 01 2007 at 04:48
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I was in Hungary recently and bought 3 LP's of prog rock or fusion from the local bands Mini, Joy and Supergroup. The guy at the record shop suggested them to me and also told me some things about them but does anyone know any deatails? Thank you! ------------- venceremos |
Posted By: Ivan_Melgar_M
Date Posted: August 01 2007 at 17:00
I will search because I'm in love with Eastern Europe Prog Scenario.
Thanks for the contribution.
Iván -------------
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Posted By: evilromero
Date Posted: August 01 2007 at 22:23
| I would love to learn more about A.C.T. Their website doesn't say a whole lot and their wikipage is barebones. For example, what does A.C.T stand for? |
Posted By: Norbert
Date Posted: August 02 2007 at 09:07
I have no idea of this Supergroup yet.
There might be many "Joys" but my instinct says that this Joy is not really prog:http:\\joy.uw.hu
Török Ádám & Mini, in many aspects similar to Jethro Tull, led by the flute player Ádám Török, strongly blues rooted music.
www.torokadam.hu
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Posted By: mandrake_gr
Date Posted: August 02 2007 at 09:47
No. It is not that Joy. The album name is "cross culture" and is supposedly led by one of the best Hungarian jazz guitarists. I can't remember his name right now. I didn't have the time to listen to the record yet but it might be more jazz than fusion.
Supergroup is something of a mixture of Hungary's best rock and jazz players. I think the most famous must be the sax player Des Lazslo. I don't know the rest.
You are correct about Mini.
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Posted By: bhikkhu
Date Posted: August 02 2007 at 23:04
Great job guys! You really got some great discussion going here. Kudos.
While "One Size Fits All" may be a superior album, I still have to agree that "Overnite Sensation," along with "Apostrophe," are the best places to start. They are both accessible, and humorous. They also show the quirky musical genius. It is easy to expand from there. ------------- a.k.a. H.T. http://riekels.wordpress.com" rel="nofollow - http://riekels.wordpress.com |
Posted By: Samir
Date Posted: August 03 2007 at 15:49
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Gentle Giant is a band that i have seen mentioned several times, seems to be very popular but it is still unknown for me, i would like you to suggest me an album to start, and if you could tell me what kind of prog do they play, i would be happy. |
Posted By: glass house
Date Posted: August 03 2007 at 15:52
Just listen to the streams here available. Maybe just begin with the first album. My favorite is Octopus.
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Posted By: bhikkhu
Date Posted: August 03 2007 at 20:23
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Let's give Samir a little overview too. GG used a lot of medieval folk themes, and very odd rhythmic changes. One listen to "Talybont" and "Knots," and you will know what I mean. This does not mean that they are as out there as something by Zappa, or Magma either. They are always able to retain an accessible quality. The earlier albums are more straight rock based. It is a bit later where they become more adventurous. "Free Hand" might be a good place to start. If it doesn't catch right away, give it time. It took me a while, and now I am a huge GG fan. ------------- a.k.a. H.T. http://riekels.wordpress.com" rel="nofollow - http://riekels.wordpress.com |
Posted By: Samir
Date Posted: August 04 2007 at 00:58
Thank you very much, i checked the videos of them here, i believe i should first listen to a complete album, because i liked them but it was kind of strange (different) music for me.
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Posted By: reality
Date Posted: August 04 2007 at 12:20
| I love Sabah Habas Mustapha and have listened to him since his stint in 3 Mustaphas 3 in the 80's. I can not conceive him as having anything to do with Progressive rock but every kind of music under the sun will eventually be lumped together and called Prog on this site whether they are or not. Go ahead include them. |
Posted By: meinmatrix
Date Posted: August 04 2007 at 12:29
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Could somebody enlighten me about Laurie Anderson? Is she even prog related or just art rock? She has made quite experimental records and i have one of her albums somewhere deep down in my record collection.
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Posted By: bhikkhu
Date Posted: August 04 2007 at 15:14
I would put her more in the category of performance art. Please guys, I appreciate all of the participation, but let's keep this about progressive rock. There are plenty of artists listed here that many people don't know about. ------------- a.k.a. H.T. http://riekels.wordpress.com" rel="nofollow - http://riekels.wordpress.com |
Posted By: Leningrad
Date Posted: August 04 2007 at 17:13
| Can someone tell me about Bacamarte? They're #7 on the chart, but I've never even seen them mentioned on the boards. |
Posted By: Politician
Date Posted: August 04 2007 at 18:03
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Bacamarte was a Brazilian prog band that cut a one-off album "Depois Do Fim" in 1983. It's a masterpiece of mellow South American progressive rock, with symphonic textures, jazzy edges and plenty of folkish guitar work, with more than half the tracks being instrumentals. The music is complex, organic and involving, but never ostentatious, and the vocals from Jane Duboc are quite superb.
The band much later issued a second album, which I haven't heard, but based on the bonus track included on the CD reissue of "Depois Do Fim", I wouldn't expect much of it. Jane Duboc has also released numerous solo albums, but be careful - outside Bacamarte, she was a sort of Brazilian answer to Elaine Paige, issuing middle-of-the-road LPs of classic film themes and that sort of stuff. |
Posted By: Leningrad
Date Posted: August 04 2007 at 18:06
Thanks! I'll be sure to check them out as soon as I get enough money for more CDs!
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Posted By: evilromero
Date Posted: August 05 2007 at 23:18
| So nothing on A.C.T? Is it really just pronounced "act" or A.C.T? By the way, how in the hell do bands as catchy and infectious as A.C.T go unnoticed? |
Posted By: bhikkhu
Date Posted: August 05 2007 at 23:34
I do have a couple of their albums, but haven't really given them much of a go yet. What I did hear didn't really excite me that much. There are a lot of standard sounding metal hooks in it. ------------- a.k.a. H.T. http://riekels.wordpress.com" rel="nofollow - http://riekels.wordpress.com |
Posted By: rushfan4
Date Posted: August 06 2007 at 13:26
I read in Progression Magazine that they are keeping the meaning of A.C.T. cryptic at this time. I believe that they said that they were not ready to reveal what it stood for yet, but that if you listened to their music that the clues are there so that the listener can figure out what it means. ------------- 
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Posted By: Dirk
Date Posted: August 06 2007 at 14:07
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Posted By: bhikkhu
Date Posted: August 06 2007 at 17:32
That's not entirely true. A while before that, there was quite a bit of buzz going around. That made me want to check it out. It lived up to the hype. This is some great prog. A little surprising too, considering the time of its release. I love the blending of classic symph sounds, while retaining the Brazilian origin. There is a lot of great South American prog out there, and this is some of the best. ------------- a.k.a. H.T. http://riekels.wordpress.com" rel="nofollow - http://riekels.wordpress.com |
Posted By: Dirk
Date Posted: August 06 2007 at 19:19
| Indeed it isn't, it was just a little joke at the expense of people who complained so much about the new top 100 algorithm. 1.5 years ago some one mentioned this album on a meeting with mostly symphonic prog lovers, almost everyone knew this album, it's famous with people who love this genre. |
Posted By: BaldFriede
Date Posted: August 06 2007 at 19:39
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One of the most underrated bands in the archive are Embryo. By "underrated" I mean that hardly anyone knows them and even fewer discuss them. They definitely deserve more attention; they are the real inventors of World Music.
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Posted By: bhikkhu
Date Posted: August 06 2007 at 20:09
Thanks for the recommendation Friede. Please tell us some more about the band. 
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Posted By: BaldFriede
Date Posted: August 06 2007 at 20:34
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Embryo are part of a musical collective that started in the late 60s. This collective chiefly consisted of the bands Embryo, Amon Düül2, Guru Guru and Kraan; other connected bands were Missus Beastly, Harmonia and Karthago (not in the archives yet, by the way). These bands exchanged musicians back and forth. Embryo started out as a jazz-rock act, but soon started integrating ethnic music from all around the world. In the late 70s they started a trip into the orient into countries like Afghanistan and India. In India they studied Indian music at the Karnataka College of Percussion, with whom they recorded several albums. (The Karnataka Colloge of Percussion is quite famous; two of the best percussionists of today, Trilok Gurtu and Ramesh Shotam, studied there). They also made albums with the African Yoruba Dun-Dun Orchestra and with South-American influences. Important members of Embryo are Christian Burchard, the founder and only constant figure in an ever-changing line-up (drums, xylophone, marimba and other tuned percussion), guitar and oud player Roman Bunka (who was recently added to the archives), Chris Karrer of Amon Düül 2 (who plays guitar and oud too), Edgar Hofmann on violin and saxes and Roland Schaeffer of Guru Guru. A highly recommended album to get into their music is "Embryo's Reise" which documents their trip to Afghanistan and India. Also definitely listen to the only sound example of them in the database ("Radio Marrakesh / Orient Express"). ------------- BaldJean and I; I am the one in blue. |
Posted By: Ivan_Melgar_M
Date Posted: August 06 2007 at 22:55
Sounds interesting, I asked for an album to a friend at the radio who has everything, then if I like it i will get it.
If you're interested in ethnic music, you should get "One World Tapestry" a good compilation of new ethnic/World artists from around the world, you will get good music and collaborate with the sudanese Refugees.
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Posted By: sleeper
Date Posted: August 07 2007 at 07:49
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I would like to learn more about Art Zoyd and Discus.
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Posted By: kazansky
Date Posted: August 07 2007 at 08:03
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Discus: a mix of metal, jazz and some Indonesian traditional folk music as well. quite crazy and interesting at the same times. their sound is really unique and original, the folk elements probably contributes a lot to this.
I've only heard '...Tot Licht'(and err, reviewed it too). They have a sample in the 'chives, which is a good representatives of their music i think. ------------- The devil we blame our atrocities on is really just each one of us. |
Posted By: laplace
Date Posted: August 07 2007 at 08:15
can you tell me how much you've heard by them? they have done work in two major areas, one being dark, RIO chamber rock with symphony-style percussion and the other in orchestrated but somewhat industrial, ambient film scores. they're... not a happy band. they're comparable to Univers Zero, and I think members of each band maintained an exchange. it's also hard to buy their older work because only box sets seem to be available, and that wouldn't be a good starting point for a new listener. ------------- FREEDOM OF SPEECH GO TO HELL |
Posted By: BaldFriede
Date Posted: August 07 2007 at 09:08
If you are interested in ethnic music, try to get some albums of Rabih Abou Khalil, one of the leading oud players in the world. He is of Afghan origin, but grew up in Germany and lived in New York for a long time too. The music is a mix of jazz, rock and afghan traditional music. It definitely pays to see a live concert of him; he announces all songs with a little speech, and his announcements are full of weird humour. He worked with Joachim Kühn for a while too. Here a video of him: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zHmnjJJ_5No - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zHmnjJJ_5No ------------- BaldJean and I; I am the one in blue. |
Posted By: Dim
Date Posted: August 07 2007 at 16:32
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Can anyone fill me in on (wow, I am quite embarrased to ask this) Spocks Beard? They seem like a pretty big band, but dont exactly get high ratings. -------------
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Posted By: sleeper
Date Posted: August 07 2007 at 17:14
All I've heard are the samples in the bands archive page, I was quite impressed with the first song but not so much the following two, I cant even remember what those songse were called now. ------------- Spending more than I should on Prog since 2005
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Posted By: Ivan_Melgar_M
Date Posted: August 07 2007 at 17:22
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Now is the turn for a very rare band, just posted about them in the Symphonic thread but really they became an addiction, I'm talking about ABBHAMA, a septept from Indonesia who released one cassette in 1978 or 1979 (the inormation mentions the two years) called "Alam Raya",. which was hard to find until a Japanese label edited a CD. Simply out of this world!!!!! Not because of quality because they are not outstanding, but because of the original of theior proposal. The band is formed by the brain and sould Iwan Madjid a classically trained pianist, ONA a keyboardist who makes miracles with a kit that sounds like a 200 bucks Casiotrone and Dhrama who plays a very sweet flute, the other 4 members play Oboe (Hendro), Robin on drums, bass (Darwin) and Cok B in the guitar But the most incredible fact is the vocals of Madjid, he sounds like a 12 years old Jon Anderson singing for an made in India musical. Their sound is well…..everything combined from Asiatic Disco to Euro Pop with a solid Symphonic structure, Neo Classical touches and Baroque fugues with an ethnic edge. If you add to that a clear Focus and Triumvirat influence, you got a complete salad bar that tastes very well Sometimes it’s hard to take them seriously but I end listening it over and over because the voice is hypnotic, really a great acquisition for any Proghead.
Iván -------------
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Posted By: glass house
Date Posted: August 07 2007 at 17:25
I have their Beware of Darkness cd and The Kindness of Strangers. I've played the former more than the later one so I'll give you a quick tour of that cd.
The first time I heard Beware of Darkness I was delighted with the Gentle Giant influences. But that's not all, listening more I think they make some really good classic prog with enough modern input ( at that day ) to stay interesting. Influences enough but original in it's own way. The recent stuff is I believe more mainstream rock. Don't know all their releases. Give them a try.
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Posted By: Dim
Date Posted: August 07 2007 at 17:43
It seems snow and v are they're greatest albums, I will look at those -------------
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