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Topic: Darren Aronofsky
Posted By: el böthy
Subject: Darren Aronofsky
Date Posted: July 01 2007 at 22:50
Aronofsky is one of todays best directors, and definitly one of my favorites. My vote goes to The Fountain, the best movie of 2006, by far!

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Posted By: bluetailfly
Date Posted: July 02 2007 at 00:39
For me, "Requiem for a Dream" was a very powerful experience, very disturbing, and was one of the best movies I've ever seen.
 
"The Fountain" was a disappointment. I expected a better movie. Sure it looked good, but the story was overly sentimental, there was no real drama, and the characters too thinly drawn. It probably would have been better if he had been able if his financing hadn't abandoned him and he wasn't forced to make a scaled-down version of it.
 
 


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Posted By: BroSpence
Date Posted: July 02 2007 at 04:27
I agree with you bluetailfly on the Fountain but I enjoyed it despite the bad happenings.

Overall, my favorite is Pi.  An extremely intense and original film that more people need to see. The low-budget, dirty b&w look was especially wonderful.


Posted By: Rocktopus
Date Posted: July 02 2007 at 04:44
http://www.worldwidewords.org/turnsofphrase/tp-her1.htm - Requiem for a Dream http://www.worldwidewords.org/turnsofphrase/tp-her1.htm - is of of the worst films I've ever seen. I hate it. PI is bearable, so I'll vote for that.

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Posted By: el böthy
Date Posted: July 02 2007 at 15:20
Originally posted by bluetailfly bluetailfly wrote:

For me, "Requiem for a Dream" was a very powerful experience, very disturbing, and was one of the best movies I've ever seen.
 
"The Fountain" was a disappointment. I expected a better movie. Sure it looked good, but the story was overly sentimental, there was no real drama, and the characters too thinly drawn. It probably would have been better if he had been able if his financing hadn't abandoned him and he wasn't forced to make a scaled-down version of it.
 
 

dont think the bigger budget would have made any difference, the story would have been the same, Darren said so many times


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Posted By: Visitor13
Date Posted: July 03 2007 at 13:38
Pi is a cool film. Haven't seen the others, so no vote.


Posted By: el böthy
Date Posted: July 03 2007 at 22:07
Am I the only one voting for The Fountain...? why... whyyyyyyyyy?????

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Posted By: VanderGraafKommandöh
Date Posted: July 08 2007 at 22:54
Originally posted by Rocktopus Rocktopus wrote:

http://www.worldwidewords.org/turnsofphrase/tp-her1.htm - Requiem for a Dream http://www.worldwidewords.org/turnsofphrase/tp-her1.htm - is of of the worst films I've ever seen. I hate it. PI is bearable, so I'll vote for that.


Just curious, but how so?

It's the only film of the above Aronofsky films I've seen, so I cannot vote.

I did see Jared Leto in Urban Legend today though. LOL


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Posted By: bluetailfly
Date Posted: July 09 2007 at 00:27
Originally posted by el böthy el böthy wrote:

Am I the only one voting for The Fountain...? why... whyyyyyyyyy?????
 
Well, I think it's because most would agree that it wasn't better than his other two.
 
Briefly put, the story wasn't compelling. The theme of "death is life" has been rendered many times to much better effect. (Whitman's "Song of Myself" for one). In fact, I think it's a line in "Pictures at an Exhibition" if I'm remembering my ELP correctly, cool, a prog connection Smile.
 
Also, as I said earlier, the characters weren't developed enough. We were just supposed to go with the protagonist's obsession without really getting a sense of what was really driving him. Also, the relationship between the conquistador and the queen was of comic book depth (bad comic book depth; I realize there are good comic books, having collected them in the past).
 
I think the story needed to be better developed; that is, more scenes that better nuanced the character's motivations. That was what was missing. It's fitting that this was first made into a graphic novel, because that is what it felt like when it was over. I felt like I had just finished "Hellboy" or something. Good, but sort a hack job. Not a serious work of science fiction or art in general.
 
I expected something better; I think high expectations also played a part in my disappointment.
 
I would like to add that I think Aronofsky's plot technique of past (fiction) present (past) future (present) was ingenious and I really appreciated that. It's just that the story lacked something, imho.


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Posted By: el böthy
Date Posted: November 30 2007 at 14:15
Originally posted by bluetailfly bluetailfly wrote:

Originally posted by el böthy el böthy wrote:

Am I the only one voting for The Fountain...? why... whyyyyyyyyy?????
 
Well, I think it's because most would agree that it wasn't better than his other two.
 
Briefly put, the story wasn't compelling. The theme of "death is life" has been rendered many times to much better effect. (Whitman's "Song of Myself" for one). In fact, I think it's a line in "Pictures at an Exhibition" if I'm remembering my ELP correctly, cool, a prog connection Smile.
 
Also, as I said earlier, the characters weren't developed enough. We were just supposed to go with the protagonist's obsession without really getting a sense of what was really driving him. Also, the relationship between the conquistador and the queen was of comic book depth (bad comic book depth; I realize there are good comic books, having collected them in the past).
 
I think the story needed to be better developed; that is, more scenes that better nuanced the character's motivations. That was what was missing. It's fitting that this was first made into a graphic novel, because that is what it felt like when it was over. I felt like I had just finished "Hellboy" or something. Good, but sort a hack job. Not a serious work of science fiction or art in general.
 
I expected something better; I think high expectations also played a part in my disappointment.
 
I would like to add that I think Aronofsky's plot technique of past (fiction) present (past) future (present) was ingenious and I really appreciated that. It's just that the story lacked something, imho.

Let´s agree in desagreeing


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Posted By: 1800iareyay
Date Posted: November 30 2007 at 21:48
I've only seen Requiem, which I enjoyed. A friend of mine who shares my tastes recommended PI but said The Fountain was just decent. I might rent it someday, but I doubt I'll ever get into it.


Posted By: GoldenSpiral
Date Posted: November 30 2007 at 23:08
The first time I saw the Fountain, I liked it, but it wasn't as great as I thought it should be.  When I saw it the second time, I realized just how much there was going on in that film.  Sure the characters are thin, but the story is rich and the film is just freaking beautiful.  And not a touch of CGI anywhere.

I've been a fan of Pi for a long time, and it's a tough call to say which I like better between it and the Fountain.

Requiem is a great, but too damn sad to watch more than once I think.


Posted By: stonebeard
Date Posted: November 30 2007 at 23:18
The Fountain: the most emotional and visually impressive film I've ever seen, but there are character flaws and some odd things that I don't quite make of it. Plus the music is orgasmic.

Requiem for a Dream: I hated it at first, but on reflection, it's a movie that I think everyone should probably see. It's the saddest and most depressing movie I know.

Never seen Pi.

Overall, I'd definitely choose The Fountain.






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Posted By: Vompatti
Date Posted: December 01 2007 at 08:14
I didn't like the Fountain at all, but Requiem for a Dream is a masterpiece. I haven't seen Pi, so I won't vote.


Posted By: GoldenSpiral
Date Posted: December 01 2007 at 10:22
Originally posted by stonebeard stonebeard wrote:



The Fountain
Plus the music is orgasmic.




To say the very least! Clap

Definitely my favorite film score of all time.

Clint Mansell + Mogwai + Kronos Quartet = total purity of awesomeness.


Posted By: el böthy
Date Posted: December 07 2007 at 16:17
Mogwai is part of the soundtrack? Wow, I never knew that!

...what´s so sad about Requiem? I mean, ok it is sad, but I didnt find it particualary sad... disturbing yes!


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Posted By: Okocha
Date Posted: December 16 2007 at 18:22
Requiem...
I didn't like The fountain......



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