A Brief Time line in prog 1966-2007
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Topic: A Brief Time line in prog 1966-2007
Posted By: darksideof
Subject: A Brief Time line in prog 1966-2007
Date Posted: June 05 2007 at 02:22
I worked on it for several hours.  ------------- http://darksideofcollages.blogspot.com/ http://www.metalmusicarchives.com/ https://www.facebook.com/pages/Darksideof-Collages/ |
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Posted By: KeleCableII
Date Posted: June 05 2007 at 04:09
| ...I don't get it. |
Posted By: progismylife
Date Posted: June 05 2007 at 04:10
| uh its Van Der Graaf Generator not Vadergraaf Generator |
Posted By: Ricochet
Date Posted: June 05 2007 at 04:11
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too brief perhaps.
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Posted By: annexusquam
Date Posted: June 05 2007 at 06:13
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nice try though there r some mistakes ------------- https://0a0wake0.bandcamp.com/releases |
Posted By: Negru Voda
Date Posted: June 05 2007 at 07:29
That doesen't make much sense 
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Posted By: jikai55
Date Posted: June 05 2007 at 07:32
| Nice efforts, but lots of mistakes. Jimi Hendrix died in the 70's :p |
Posted By: darksideof
Date Posted: June 05 2007 at 09:45
Thanks
I know I made a lot mistakes, the problem is that we all know how extented the prog- world is and it was taking me too long!!!!!!!!
 Well I guess It is not done yet!!
I just want to see the reactions. Also what are the mistake?
besides the misspelling.!!! ------------- http://darksideofcollages.blogspot.com/ http://www.metalmusicarchives.com/ https://www.facebook.com/pages/Darksideof-Collages/ |
jikai55 wrote:Posted By: Kotro
Date Posted: June 05 2007 at 10:52
Is Vadergraff taken? By mispelling you created one hell of a name for a band...  ------------- Bigger on the inside. |
Posted By: Frasse
Date Posted: June 05 2007 at 11:09
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Some misspellings and generally hard to understand but a nice try. Why are the 90s filled with 70s and 80s bands? |
Posted By: Hatters
Date Posted: June 05 2007 at 11:30
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Which direction does time flow in?
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Posted By: 1800iareyay
Date Posted: June 05 2007 at 11:44
| This makes little sense. For the 90s, are you putting up the names of 70s bands that still play, cause that's kinda unnecessary, plus Pink Floyd stopped putting out new material, and Genesis and ELP had long before abandoned prog rock, so they don't really count. If you're going by band longevity, might i suggest more of a bar graph visual with more of a fixed timeline? |
Posted By: memowakeman
Date Posted: June 05 2007 at 11:49
Spock´s Bread would be a nice name  ------------- Follow me on twitter @memowakeman |
Posted By: 1800iareyay
Date Posted: June 05 2007 at 11:51
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Also, you have Yes begetting Crimson, yet Crimson has its own boldface to the right. Plus, ELP shares far more with Yes and Genesis than they do to Crimso, though the VDGG parallel is correct. Also, the Italian scene only gets a little blurb, even though they created some of the most acclaimed prog, at least PFM and Banco.
Misspellings: Jimmy Henrix (Jimi), Vadergraaf (already discussed), Jeethro Tull (Jethro), Gentle Giants (Giant), Tangerine=Dreams (Tangerine Dream), Aeyron (Ayreon), Sposck's Beard (Spock's), The Tagent (Tangent), Flower King (Kings), Marillon (Marillion), Fate Warning (Fates), and Show Gallery (Shadow). These are all the ones I could find. Also, capitalize band names and use the full names (you abbreviate the Italian bands) unless the band uses the abbreviation i.e. OSI. |
Posted By: 1800iareyay
Date Posted: June 05 2007 at 11:55
| i just spotted Amon Dull. It's Amon Düül |
Posted By: jmcdaniel_ee
Date Posted: June 05 2007 at 12:26
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If this is a prog family tree (technically not a timeline), then it might be less condecending towards certain bands to have general styles producing other general styles (like symphonic prog morphing into neo-prog) and general eras of each genre (i.e. when symphonic prog began to become more pop oriented [Yes and Genesis], Crimson becoming more electronic/stripped down in the 80s). A lot of bands have multiple influences--I remember reading that Genesis had the cover of ItCCK hanging on the wall as inspiration when they were recording one of their early albums (can't remember which one).
It would be a neat chart to produce, but would also be a large undertaking.
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Posted By: Dick Heath
Date Posted: June 05 2007 at 12:30
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At the risk of being a dampener, it is a start - but I'm afraid to give it structure (and flow) through the generations of prog bands, lots more time and input is necessary. My experience is: ~5 years ago I started on a project to examine Soft Machine's discography and line-ups, (drawing parallels with Miles Davis's jazz fusion output), thinking it would take a couple of hours - over a full working week was necessary (and then in the 4 years since over 10 new Machine albums have appeared, making it incomplete). Using the Machine grapevine in the UK, I was happily surprised to find Hugh Hopper proof reading and correcting it, then approving it. ------------- The best eclectic music on the Web,8-11pm BST/GMT THURS. CLICK ON: http://www.lborosu.org.uk/media/lcr/live.php - http://www.lborosu.org.uk/media/lcr/live.php Host by PA's Dick Heath. |
Posted By: darksideof
Date Posted: June 05 2007 at 12:48
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Thanks everyone!
I'll make the changes and I'll show the final result.
Gracias!!
 It is true isn't clear in a lot part.
I'll do a better job next time.
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Posted By: debrewguy
Date Posted: June 05 2007 at 19:13
You've never listened to their music, eh ------------- "Here I am talking to some of the smartest people in the world and I didn't even notice,” Lieutenant Columbo, episode The Bye-Bye Sky-High I.Q. Murder Case. |
Posted By: J-dawg
Date Posted: June 05 2007 at 19:48
Ha ha ha!  Most ironic misspelling ever. Dare we infer anything? ------------- 
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Posted By: erik neuteboom
Date Posted: June 05 2007 at 19:56
| Did anyone notice a certain prog development in Spain (especially the Prog Andaluz), Italy (RPI), and Japan ( featuring keyboard wizard Toshio Egawa)? In my opinion these 'movements' are not less worth to be mentioned than the neo-prog! |
Posted By: Rocktopus
Date Posted: June 05 2007 at 20:09
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I'll add to what the others have said. Kansas, Dixie Dregs, Happy the Man, Saga, Pallas, Pendragon (and John Wetton, Bill Bruford solo) are all far to irrelevant to get included in this small time line. Some of the germans started their own scene ca. 69. As early as the brits, and earlier than Genesis and Yes released any prog. And Van der Graaf were just as early as both of them. Really, apart from Zappa (maybe Beefheart, Mahavishnu & The Residents, not many US bands are that important. And what's this line from Pink Floyd through/kraut/space/electronic to Kansas about!!?? Your 1990 to today choices of bands is the strangest I've ever seen. If you want to make it more complete, you also have to include more genres. ------------- Over land and under ashes In the sunlight, see - it flashes Find a fly and eat his eye But don't believe in me Don't believe in me Don't believe in me |
Posted By: Dean
Date Posted: June 05 2007 at 20:09
Also, dutch prog (do you have a name for that?): Focus (huge in the 70's with 5 top 30 albums and 2 top 20 singles in the UK) and Rick van der Linden's Ekseption and Trace. ------------- What? |
Posted By: debrewguy
Date Posted: June 05 2007 at 21:29
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I say you listen to every opinion here. Then when your head stops spinning, put on a CD or record & let that spin for a while. Then go back to your original idea, which seemed interesting & best of all, it looked like you had put more thought into it than most , if not all of the resulting posts. Kansas is the # 1 US prog band. Popular, yes; but check Echolyn, is there a certain mid-west influence ? The neo phase was made up in good part by the groups you mention, so again it fits well with your original idea. I pray for your first intention, I hope for your perseverance, & I await the results with impatience. Go get 'em ! ------------- "Here I am talking to some of the smartest people in the world and I didn't even notice,” Lieutenant Columbo, episode The Bye-Bye Sky-High I.Q. Murder Case. |
Posted By: darksideof
Date Posted: June 05 2007 at 23:28
thanks kid!!!! that was nice!!!! ------------- http://darksideofcollages.blogspot.com/ http://www.metalmusicarchives.com/ https://www.facebook.com/pages/Darksideof-Collages/ |
Posted By: The Whistler
Date Posted: June 06 2007 at 04:16
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Are you, like, saying that Pink Floyd inspired Focus and Tull? I'm confused. But intrigued. ------------- "There seem to be quite a large percentage of young American boys out there tonight. A long way from home, eh? Well so are we... Gotta stick together." -I. Anderson |
Posted By: Badabec
Date Posted: June 06 2007 at 10:08
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They are called Gentle Giant without an "s" at the end
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