Is Foxtrot... Boring?
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Topic: Is Foxtrot... Boring?
Posted By: Dim
Subject: Is Foxtrot... Boring?
Date Posted: May 20 2007 at 12:54
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DONT JUDGE!
Okay, before you want to rip my head off READ THIS! When I first got the album I was very excited to listen to suppers ready. I was impressed with the synth intro to "watcher", but when the song picked up I found it to be extremely boring with nothing standing out or impressing me! It was all the same riff/ note again and again til' the end. I believe we will all agree that Time table is at least one of the weakest songs that Gabriel made with Genesis. Now get'em out by friday is an absolute abomination to all things Genesis!!! I cant even listen to it without nashing my teeth with disgust, too much organ, no guitar, Gabriels voice sounds terrible, and besides that nothing is going on in the song, it disgusts me!
Now besides those the rest of the songs are quite exceptional, I've grown very fond of "can utility" and hacketts horizons is very pretty (although I'm sure he's just trying to keep up with Howe) and who will deny that suppers ready is the magnum opus of all genesis songs.
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Posted By: Snow Dog
Date Posted: May 20 2007 at 12:56
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Its not synths...its Mellotron, but otherwise I mostly agree with you...kinda. ------------- http://www.last.fm/user/Snow_Dog" rel="nofollow"> 
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Posted By: Atomic_Rooster
Date Posted: May 20 2007 at 12:57
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It's less immediate than SEBTP, but it is, in my opinion, more rewarding and more consistent (with the exception of Supper's Ready, which I'm not terribly fond of) Horizons really is just an instrumental intro to Supper's Ready, but it succeeds wonderfully in that regard ------------- I am but a servant of the mighty Fripp, the sound of whose loins shall forever be upon the tongues of his followers. |
Posted By: Snow Dog
Date Posted: May 20 2007 at 13:03
Well....really it isn't. It's an entirely seperate piece with no connection to Supper's Ready. ------------- http://www.last.fm/user/Snow_Dog" rel="nofollow">
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Atomic_Rooster wrote:Posted By: Atomic_Rooster
Date Posted: May 20 2007 at 13:06
in the context of the album it is though, otherwise there would really be no point in placing it so conveniently. (or they may have just not put it in the album altogether, because it is a bit anticlimactic after the previous songs) ------------- I am but a servant of the mighty Fripp, the sound of whose loins shall forever be upon the tongues of his followers. |
Posted By: Vompatti
Date Posted: May 20 2007 at 13:07
| Horizons really works as an intro to Supper's Ready, but wasn't it on the A-side of the album? |
Posted By: Atomic_Rooster
Date Posted: May 20 2007 at 13:09
actually, i think it was, which shows its use as a palate cleanser, rather than an intro, but the same still applies I think. ------------- I am but a servant of the mighty Fripp, the sound of whose loins shall forever be upon the tongues of his followers. |
Posted By: Snow Dog
Date Posted: May 20 2007 at 13:10
In the context of the.......what? I don't get it. I'm sure Hackett didn't write it though because the lads "need an introduction to Supper, Steve, so we do, to be sure".
That was an Irish Tony O'Banks.  ------------- http://www.last.fm/user/Snow_Dog" rel="nofollow">
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Posted By: Snow Dog
Date Posted: May 20 2007 at 13:10
No it was definitely side 2.
Palate cleanser? My aren't we pretentious!
Moi?
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Posted By: Philéas
Date Posted: May 20 2007 at 13:11
| I prefer Foxtrot over Selling England by the Pound. By a large margin aswell. My favourite is Nursery Cryme, however. |
Posted By: The Wizard
Date Posted: May 20 2007 at 13:20
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Yuo have to be in the mood for it. Other Genesis albums are a lot better at being, well, exciting. -------------  
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Posted By: Atomic_Rooster
Date Posted: May 20 2007 at 13:29
I'm not saying they got steve to write it for the sake of an intro, but it was lying around and they thought, hey this song works as a transitional piece between the previous songs and our gigantic epic that otherwise would appear extremely abrupt and out of proportion with the rest of the album (ok so they probably didn't think that exactly, but you get the point right?) Truthfully though, the song Horizons just isn't that great on its own, its alright for a neo-romantic guitar etude, but Kleyans, Brauer, and others were much better at the same time for that type of music, so its use as a transitional piece into Supper's Ready is really what makes it stand out ------------- I am but a servant of the mighty Fripp, the sound of whose loins shall forever be upon the tongues of his followers. |
Posted By: Blacksword
Date Posted: May 20 2007 at 13:37
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The intro to Watcher is the best part of the song, I'll grant you that, but Foxtrot, boring as a whole? No not for me. Genesis have never made a boring album..
A few crap ones, maybe.. 
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Posted By: el böthy
Date Posted: May 20 2007 at 14:03
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Nooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo
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Posted By: Ricochet
Date Posted: May 20 2007 at 14:05
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hellz no, my say! I like the album more and more with each listen, and that is already an impossible coming thing, since I found the album unbearably exquisite, integrally, from the first listen. Foxtrot is, for me, the best Genesis album. ------------- 
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Posted By: heyitsthatguy
Date Posted: May 20 2007 at 14:17
I'll never get why people tend to question their own opinions in thread form if it's contrary to the majority... just like what you like and dislike what you dislike, it's how things work*IMO ------------- 
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Posted By: Snow Dog
Date Posted: May 20 2007 at 14:21
Of course Horizons is great on its own. It is, to this day, one of Hacketts most popular acoustic pieces. ------------- http://www.last.fm/user/Snow_Dog" rel="nofollow">
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Posted By: laplace
Date Posted: May 20 2007 at 14:25
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Well, I agree that Watcher of the Skies is unnecessarily long, but I think Get 'em Out by Friday is the best piece on the disc. :\
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Posted By: Easy Livin
Date Posted: May 20 2007 at 14:39
| I think its position in our Top 100 albums answers your question for most of our members. |
Posted By: Dim
Date Posted: May 20 2007 at 14:41
Shut up! Mr. Hackett is just trying to keep up with mr. Howe for guitar versitility -------------
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Posted By: bhikkhu
Date Posted: May 20 2007 at 14:42
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Best Genesis album, best prog album. I think it's a shame that you find it boring, but that's your loss. ------------- a.k.a. H.T. http://riekels.wordpress.com" rel="nofollow - http://riekels.wordpress.com |
Posted By: Certif1ed
Date Posted: May 20 2007 at 14:51
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I'm not even going to bother going back to see the previous discussion.
Foxtrot is not a boring album - it's one that some people take a long time to discover.
That's not patronising - it's fact.
If it bores you, you're the type that needs "hits", not art. ------------- The important thing is not to stop questioning. |
Posted By: Snow Dog
Date Posted: May 20 2007 at 14:57
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Posted By: Snow Dog
Date Posted: May 20 2007 at 14:58
No.....its patronising. ------------- http://www.last.fm/user/Snow_Dog" rel="nofollow">
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Posted By: Abstrakt
Date Posted: May 20 2007 at 15:08
| Yes |
Posted By: Syzygy
Date Posted: May 20 2007 at 15:24
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I agree that it's rather uneven - and Get 'em Out By Friday really is an abomination - but it's a varied set which includes one of the defining side long epics of the early 70s. You don't have to like it, but I don't think it can objectively be described as boring. ------------- 'Like so many of you I've got my doubts about how much to contribute to the already rich among us...' Robert Wyatt, Gloria Gloom |
Posted By: Moogtron III
Date Posted: May 20 2007 at 15:42
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For me, personally, there's not even a boring second on it. Always found the album fascinating, from the very first time.
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Posted By: Logan
Date Posted: May 20 2007 at 15:50
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For me it's a pretty lackluster album -- good, but non-essential. When I was getting back into Progressive Rock after having gone off rock for quite a few years, it was one of the first albums I bought. I liked "Can-Utility" and "Horizons" particularly -- never enjoyed "Get 'em Out" on the whole, but it has good parts. As I discovered more Prog, and delved into the various categories here, Genesis palled greatly for me. But Foxtrot never really wowed me. If others love it, that's lovely, but I'd rather listen to other albums (I rarely play Genesis anymore even though it was one of my favourite bands at one time). ------------- https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLXcp9fYc6K4IKuxIZkenfvukL_Y8VBqzK" rel="nofollow - Duos for fave acts |
Posted By: Atomic_Rooster
Date Posted: May 20 2007 at 21:19
That's your opinion, but from a musical standpoint, its not progressive at all (not that that matters) and it pales in comparison with the majority of other guitar compositions at the time. Just because its popular doesn't mean its good. Technically speaking, its just a very shallow piece when taken by itself (there are many more emotional, beautiful, and technically better written pieces from the same time in the same style), but as an interlude between Supper's Ready and the rest of the album, its a nice piece of music. ------------- I am but a servant of the mighty Fripp, the sound of whose loins shall forever be upon the tongues of his followers. |
Posted By: DarioIndjic
Date Posted: May 20 2007 at 21:38
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IMHO ,yes... ------------- Ars longa , vita brevis |
Posted By: Arsillus
Date Posted: May 20 2007 at 21:41
| Sorry you feel that way mate. Amazing album in my book. |
Posted By: heyitsthatguy
Date Posted: May 20 2007 at 21:42
and now I add a post entailing my opinions towards the album which include either a) I disagree and vehemently (yet subty) condescend to you for your difference in opinion or b) agree and say that all the old crusty people who enjoy the album are stupid as my opinion is clearly superior for the sole reason that it is mine -------------
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Posted By: raindance2007
Date Posted: May 20 2007 at 23:45
| i love timetable too |
Posted By: Snow Dog
Date Posted: May 21 2007 at 05:47
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Posted By: Cheesecakemouse
Date Posted: May 21 2007 at 05:50
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Personally I think Foxtrot is Gabrial era Genesis's most focussed and fully realised album
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Posted By: Certif1ed
Date Posted: May 21 2007 at 06:03
 It's a fact that it takes some people a long time to discover.  ------------- The important thing is not to stop questioning. |
Posted By: Snow Dog
Date Posted: May 21 2007 at 06:06
Oh......I see.
Actually, you're right. I don't find it boring as such. I just don't like some of it very much.
 Boring is definitely not the word I would use though. (Even though I agreed before) ------------- http://www.last.fm/user/Snow_Dog" rel="nofollow">
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Posted By: Dean
Date Posted: May 21 2007 at 07:03
Get 'em out by Friday is not atypical of the Gabriel era Genesis, (The Knife, Harrold the Barrel, The Return Of The Giant Hogweed, Battle of Epping Forest), in that it is a modern cautionary folk tale put to music. Population growth, housing shortages and overcrowding is a notch up from elves and wizards at least.
An album that starts with Watcher and ends with Supper's Ready just isn't boring. It can't be, we wouldn't still be discussing it 35 years later if it were. ------------- What? |
Posted By: Fassbinder
Date Posted: May 21 2007 at 07:18
Now that's fine!
I have no idea what does "boring" mean, but I have serious suspections that it might seem a kind of expression similar (in its sense) to "it makes little impression on me" or "I don't find much interest in this album".
After some ten listenings I have the feeling that "_______________ "(insert any of the expressions you've just read in the previous paragraph).
Now the type that, apparently, needs "hits", not art, has a problem -- which album full of "hits" to choose for listening -- Over, or The Least We Can Do Is Wave To Each Other, or A Passion Play, or Lizard...
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Posted By: Snow Dog
Date Posted: May 21 2007 at 08:05
Yes I agree. It is a sweeping generalisation by Cert. Perhaps he's angry at the notion. ------------- http://www.last.fm/user/Snow_Dog" rel="nofollow">
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Posted By: E-Dub
Date Posted: May 21 2007 at 08:16
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Foxtrot boring? Not even close. Fantastic disc.
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Posted By: The Miracle
Date Posted: May 21 2007 at 16:25
Your mom is boring Best album ever. ------------- http://www.last.fm/user/ocellatedgod" rel="nofollow - last.fm |
Posted By: Dim
Date Posted: May 21 2007 at 16:36
I hate "hits" ! way to JUDGE, read what I first said loser!
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Posted By: Asyte2c00
Date Posted: May 21 2007 at 16:38
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Foxtrot is far from boring.
I rather listen to Nursery Cryme or Selling England By the Pound though, but not bad at all.
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Posted By: Dim
Date Posted: May 21 2007 at 16:42
Hey I have and love lizard and passion play... -------------
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Posted By: Certif1ed
Date Posted: May 21 2007 at 16:43
I'm not a loser - I'm a winner.
I wanted to annoy you because you said that one of my favourite albums was boring - and it worked.
Sorry about that - I have an evil sense of humour...   ------------- The important thing is not to stop questioning. |
Posted By: Bj-1
Date Posted: May 21 2007 at 16:46
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Foxtrot isn't boring. It's stuffed with great and adventurous songs. Genesis' best to me! ------------- RIO/AVANT/ZEUHL - The best thing you can get with yer pants on! |
Posted By: Dim
Date Posted: May 21 2007 at 18:30
... uncool... -------------
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Posted By: Ghandi 2
Date Posted: May 21 2007 at 20:33
Sounds to me less like evil/twisted and more like simple trolling.
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Posted By: heyitsthatguy
Date Posted: May 21 2007 at 20:35
Alas! a troll amongst the ranks! RING THE ALARUM BELLS, WE'RE UNDER ATTACK! SOON THERE'LL BE DISCUSSION OF A***M L**KS!!! -------------
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Posted By: micky
Date Posted: May 21 2007 at 20:39
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boring... hell no.... this album has cost me two speeding tickets (love to put on 'Get 'em out by Friday' while out on the road  )------------- The Pedro and Micky Experience - When one no longer requires psychotropics to trip |
Posted By: Dim
Date Posted: May 21 2007 at 22:14
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Dont get me (too) wrong, the last three songs are very nice -------------
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Posted By: A B Negative
Date Posted: May 22 2007 at 05:04
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I wouldn't say it was boring but I never listen to it all the way through as I would with Nursery Cryme or SEBTP. It starts well and ends well but the middle doesn't grab my attention. ------------- "The disgusting stink of a too-loud electric guitar.... Now, that's my idea of a good time." |
Posted By: The Whistler
Date Posted: May 22 2007 at 05:24
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Posted By: Bastille Dude
Date Posted: May 22 2007 at 05:29
I can easily understand breaking a few traffic laws listening to that jam micky. I personally don't understand how anyone can find anything boring about Genesis, But to each his own. ------------- DEATH TO FALSE PROG! |
Posted By: The Whistler
Date Posted: May 22 2007 at 05:30
...Phil Collinsworth, their sound guy. He sucked. ------------- "There seem to be quite a large percentage of young American boys out there tonight. A long way from home, eh? Well so are we... Gotta stick together." -I. Anderson |
Posted By: Atomic_Rooster
Date Posted: May 22 2007 at 11:06
You're not portraying yourself in a favorable light. Since when am I not entitled to my own opinions about Genesis music? ------------- I am but a servant of the mighty Fripp, the sound of whose loins shall forever be upon the tongues of his followers. |
Posted By: tuxon
Date Posted: May 22 2007 at 22:17
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foxtrot is a fabulous album, and surely I can name 100 albums thatare better, still it stands firm as a document of a certain time. and Can-utility is the ultimate Genesis song (in gabriels present), great for those liking it. personally I tink Genesis hit a peak with Nursery Cryme, and closely aproxiamated that high with Selling England, Foxtrot was really a bridging album between naivity and adultery, Can Utility is the best excample of what I mean since it lingers between both opposite's surelly love that song.
To get back on the general question, no it's not boring, but occasionally the quality falls below general appeal,  ------------- I'm always almost unlucky _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ Id5ZcnjXSZaSMFMC Id5LM2q2jfqz3YxT |
Posted By: micky
Date Posted: May 23 2007 at 19:11
I do have a bit of a lead foot and a car that will move so they come easily enough. I think the persistant view that Genesis are somehow....boring.. is perpetuated by a couple of things. They are understated... well .. at least musically. They weren't exactly 'high energy' on stage, and there is the matter of what their own record label (Charisma) said of them.. 'they weren't getting written about because they were so f**king boring' make up your own minds I guess ------------- The Pedro and Micky Experience - When one no longer requires psychotropics to trip |
Posted By: Dim
Date Posted: May 24 2007 at 19:55
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Hey Mickey, I love everything Pg Genesis, just not the first three songs of Foxtrot! -------------
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Posted By: Drew
Date Posted: May 24 2007 at 19:56
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I think it is- that's why I never listen to it.
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Posted By: pero
Date Posted: May 25 2007 at 08:01
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Genesis best album for me. If Foxtrot is boring for you why do you need to anounce here?
A lot of bands here are boring for me but I'm not starting a tread about it.
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Posted By: Dim
Date Posted: May 26 2007 at 18:05
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^ well, I anounce it here because it is one of the breakthrough prog albums with one of the signature prog songs of all time, and I'm apparently one of the few people who find the first three songs very bad compared to every other genesis track with PG! Dont be an idiot pero! -------------
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Posted By: coleio
Date Posted: May 26 2007 at 18:09
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He's not being an idiot he's telling the truth...
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Posted By: micky
Date Posted: May 26 2007 at 19:34
my problem has never been with Genesis being boring... it is just I don't think their albums are as good as people think they are It's all taste an popularity I know.. so I generally keep my big yapper shut.Watchter of the Sky's wasn't bad at all.. Time Table put me to sleep.. yet Get 'em out by Friday is a fabulous song. So in a nutshell for me.... their albums other than SEBTP. Rather average.. hit and miss albums. A mix of the good.. at times brilliant.. then absolute filler. They didn't .. .not have talent enough to do..... but exhibit the 'chops' to make routine songs.. or even garbage (like Yes could do ....say with Soundchaser.)damn interesting and fun to listen to. Simply that is I could make 1 CD of selection from all their albums. .and be happy the rest of my life. Anyhow.. just a personal observation. ------------- The Pedro and Micky Experience - When one no longer requires psychotropics to trip |
Posted By: con safo
Date Posted: May 26 2007 at 20:47
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No.
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Posted By: progadicto
Date Posted: May 26 2007 at 21:02
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Definetively NO!... It's one of the best Genesis albums and the five songs are great! I still cannot understand why some people don't like this album or (in this case) thinks Foxtrot is bored... I just simply don't get it... ------------- ... E N E L B U N K E R... |
Posted By: Progger
Date Posted: May 27 2007 at 06:56
| Supper's Ready is awesome but the rest of Foxtrot is made up of filler IMO |
Posted By: mystic fred
Date Posted: May 27 2007 at 07:05
on the contrary - the band had so much material for "Supper's Ready" it was something of a miracle they managed to cram it all on one side of an LP !!
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Posted By: Logan
Date Posted: May 27 2007 at 15:30
Over time some things tarnish.
It's primarily a matter of taste, really. Overexposure can dull the pleasure, as can discovering other things that one prefers. Depending on what one is into, I could understand people not ever finding a like for it. If one appreciates the jazz aspect of Prog particulalry, for instance, there are better albums to listen to. I don't dislike the album, it's more that it doesn't excite me. I used to enjoy it much more, but as I discovered many albums from the various categories at this site, Genesis palled for me. In fact, Symphonic Prog on the whole doesn't interest me nearly as much as it used to. However, there are still many albums and bands I love in that category. I still like Focus, for instance, after many years even though Genesis and many other bands that I used to love don't hold my interest so much. Some have expressed that they consider that a second-rate band. Fine; it's taste. Gryphon is another band that has held my interest for many years (I still love Gryphon), yet I know some consider their albums poor. And of course in the last few years I've been exposed to a lot more Prog that I love from the various categories (have to see how I feel about some of those bands after years have passed -- will I still love Gentle Giant, will Acquiring the Taste bore me? Will I become bored with the many bands I love from RIO/ Avant Prog, Zeuhl, Canterbury and Jazz/ Rock Fusion for instance? Only time will tell. Some people don't like Genesis, let alone this album. Some, like myself, liked it, then tired of it. There are just hundreds of albums in the archives that I find more interesting and satisfying than Foxtrot. But that doesn't mean I can't enjoy Foxtrot... Maybe down the road, I'll be back into it again. Maybe for nostalgic reasons. Nostalgia played a big part in my wanting to explore Prog bands again -- particularly a yearning for Genesis (I'd never left some Prog like Yes and Pink Floyd though I don't listen to them much anymore). But my "Horizons" have expanded greatly since then, and much stuff I once really liked just doesn't hold the same interest anymore. Certain albums and styles of music can get boring as the decades pass, but eventually I want to revisit everything I once held dear. I can guess that another factor for Foxtrot and other Genesis albums losing interest for some around here is that they just seem to be discussed to death here. It helps contribute to the 'stale' factor. Foxtrot is an essential album to hear for beginners getting into classic Prog (which makes it a kind of a Prog 101 album and band), but something that some advanced Progressive Music aficionados will move away from... and some will deeply cherish for ever. ------------- https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLXcp9fYc6K4IKuxIZkenfvukL_Y8VBqzK" rel="nofollow - Duos for fave acts |
Posted By: NutterAlert
Date Posted: May 27 2007 at 15:33
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Not when played live in the fox head and little red dress combination. Do you know the red dress Gabriel wore on stage was his wife's and he actually killed the fox and fashioned it into stage headgear himself. ------------- Proud to be an un-banned member since 2005 |
Posted By: Dim
Date Posted: May 27 2007 at 17:27
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Posted By: micky
Date Posted: May 27 2007 at 18:07
some might see that as a bit an elitist point of point... with a bit of a condescending tone to it.. but you know what... I love it ....and I think you are dead on. The more prog you check out.. you might see the album simply isn't THAT great in comparison. However there's nothing that says you don't have to stop loving it or cherishing it. ------------- The Pedro and Micky Experience - When one no longer requires psychotropics to trip |
Posted By: Norbert
Date Posted: May 29 2007 at 07:51
Some well deserved clappies for this post.
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Posted By: Certif1ed
Date Posted: May 29 2007 at 08:00
Actually, it's completely the opposite - as you listen to more prog, every time you return to Foxtrot, you realise just how great it is.
Especially when you compare it to a one-trick pony like Yes. ------------- The important thing is not to stop questioning. |
Posted By: Certif1ed
Date Posted: May 29 2007 at 08:16
You're a winner too - it was simple trolling - so you get this week's star prize, which is all the troll doo-doo you can eat.
A thread that starts out with a negative premise like this one is a troll in itself - so it deserves as many trolls as it can attract.
The latter (about deserving as many trolls as it can attract) is just my personal opinion, and not those of the site, of course. ------------- The important thing is not to stop questioning. |
Posted By: Dim
Date Posted: May 29 2007 at 22:11
How can he be telling the truth if he is asking a question... thinking is useful -------------
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Posted By: SolariS
Date Posted: May 29 2007 at 22:15
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aw naw, hell naw. foxtrot is smooth -------------  
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Posted By: Dean
Date Posted: May 30 2007 at 14:03
It was one of those retorical questions? ------------- What? |
Posted By: Dim
Date Posted: May 30 2007 at 20:05
How is, quote "why would you make this topic, there are plenty of boring albums out there" retoricle? -------------
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Posted By: heyitsthatguy
Date Posted: May 30 2007 at 20:07
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I wish I could feel ways about stuff
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Posted By: Dean
Date Posted: May 30 2007 at 20:26
because it was stated for rhetorical effect?  ------------- What? |
Posted By: Atavachron
Date Posted: May 30 2007 at 20:34
that would be nice, wouldn't it?
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Posted By: Dim
Date Posted: May 30 2007 at 20:53
I would agree with you if I could here the tone of his voice -------------
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Posted By: toddbashee
Date Posted: May 31 2007 at 21:49
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Oh well, Schizoid - We will not all agree! I find that we each demand things of our music, and we get disappointe. I think Time Table is not weak in the least - it is thoughtful, sober and evocative. It ain't proggy. Get 'em Out...that to me is a fine song, but it doesn't get my odd-time groove thang going.
I started out partial to Wind and Wuthering and Selling England; over time, I respond more or less, depending on my cholesterol, I think, to the sweeping thick epic grooves, or to the edges of Back to NYC, or to the folky syrup - all of which can be found in abundance. Sometimes, Dodo/Lurker is a masterpiece, followed closely by Me and Sarah Jane and Evidence of Autumn. Point is, there are many flavors, and its nice to know the bad stuff will be there to be good when the good becomes bad. ------------- Just Like the Kind Mom Used to Make |
Posted By: Dim
Date Posted: May 31 2007 at 22:12
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I hope you know we speak english here ^ -------------
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Posted By: cursestar
Date Posted: June 01 2007 at 06:58
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Foxtrot is excellent musically, but the sound quality comes across to me as sounding a little grey. I imagine it sounded better live.
Still a great album. Not boring at all, IMO |
Posted By: Snow Dog
Date Posted: June 01 2007 at 07:13
Has no one got a comment on this?
I'm not biting, not this time..... ------------- http://www.last.fm/user/Snow_Dog" rel="nofollow">
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Posted By: Dean
Date Posted: June 01 2007 at 07:18
...oh, go on, you know you want too ------------- What? |
Posted By: andu
Date Posted: June 01 2007 at 07:18
I love YES, but there's always room for some "certified" humour... ------------- "PA's own GI Joe!" 
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Posted By: ClassicRocker
Date Posted: June 01 2007 at 17:46
I think there is a fine line between what you call "humor" and being soul-less...
- "one trick pony," he says
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Posted By: Floydian42
Date Posted: June 02 2007 at 02:54
| It all comes down to each individual person, of course. But for me, at first Yes, foxtrot was boring, but as time went on got more exciting. |
Posted By: Dim
Date Posted: June 02 2007 at 23:18
Watch your tounge certified! You better watch who your talking too some time  -------------
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Posted By: purplepiper
Date Posted: June 18 2007 at 17:36
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I love that album! Watcher of the skies repetitiveness is exactly what I like about it! It so simple yet good sounding. I like the lyrics. Get em out by friday is one of my genesis favourites! it has compelling lyrics and gabriel sounds good to me! I do agree though, time table is weak and I could have done without horizons. Can utility is a good song too. and of course theres that one song, you know supper something. it's alright. (joking ! suppers ready is awesome!!!!!) ------------- for those about to prog, we salute you. |
Posted By: Dim
Date Posted: June 18 2007 at 21:58
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I was talking to one of my Dads friends, (the one who showed me prog, and let me borrow all his Genesis and Yes albums) and I told him about my deep loathing of get'em out by friday song. He said I didnt like it is because I am a lazy freeloader and I dont have a job, and that song speaks for so many people in the whole TGIF phase. Either way I still think the song is PG Genesis' worse! -------------
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Posted By: Atavachron
Date Posted: June 18 2007 at 22:04
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^ I love that track not only because it smokes, but cause the lyrics are so poignant. I think it's one of the most heartfelt songs he's written. As well, Gabriel does some of his best emoting and character playing on Foxtrot... clearly making a big impression on one Roger Waters.
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Posted By: annexusquam
Date Posted: June 19 2007 at 04:11
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of course it's boring! ------------- https://0a0wake0.bandcamp.com/releases |
Posted By: Dim
Date Posted: June 19 2007 at 10:31
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I cant believe this topic is still up! I guess its the "reason to hate schizoid topic"
^^ Rubish, there is more emotion in time table then get'em out -------------
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Posted By: Zargus
Date Posted: June 19 2007 at 21:31
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some parts are boring, but thats the point i think. Am i the only one who like the first 10min of suppers ready the best? the following 12min are pretty dull comperade to the first 10 i think. ------------- 
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Posted By: Atavachron
Date Posted: June 19 2007 at 21:46
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