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Topic: ELP
Posted By: Guests
Subject: ELP
Date Posted: February 21 2005 at 19:20
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IM OUT JERKS. (THREE FATES IS THE ONLY SAINE ONE) |
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Posted By: chorus of one
Date Posted: February 21 2005 at 19:31
| Boohoo, grow up. |
Posted By: Rob The Good
Date Posted: February 22 2005 at 05:02
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"Boohoo"?....good one.
Aww come on Karnevil...I love ELP too!  ------------- And Jesus said unto John, "come forth and receive eternal life..." Unfortunately, John came fifth and was stuck with a toaster. |
Posted By: AngelRat
Date Posted: February 22 2005 at 06:17
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I'll miss him. Why are ELP fans so sensitive, lack of humor maybe? -------------  |
Posted By: Reed Lover
Date Posted: February 22 2005 at 07:28
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How does that Queen song go? Oh yes, Dumb,dumb,dumb, Another one bites the dust........... ------------- 
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Posted By: Jim Garten
Date Posted: February 22 2005 at 07:30
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"Jerks"???
Hello pot, this is kettle calling. ------------- 
Jon Lord 1941 - 2012 |
Posted By: richardh
Date Posted: February 22 2005 at 07:34
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Sorry Karny that you feel that way.I think there are some jerks on this site (me included) but the poor sods need someone to go.I mean where else are you going to talk about Gentle Giant,Ash Ra Temple and various other bands that time forgot and the world doesn't give a stuff about? I don't expect aything from this site other than to read stuff (good and bad) about musicians I appreciate.I wish there were more ELP fans in the world but there aren't that many.But I am happy to be part of a small previleged group of people who understand what great music is.The rest can bugger off! |
Posted By: Reed Lover
Date Posted: February 22 2005 at 07:47
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Posted By: Blacksword
Date Posted: February 22 2005 at 08:20
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Reed..
------------- Ultimately bored by endless ecstasy! |
Posted By: arcer
Date Posted: February 22 2005 at 09:07
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what a strange individual first some of the most deeply scary obsessive behaviour ever witnessed on the site then a tearful apology admitting he'd gone too far and would behave then a little tantrum and an exit hmm, I spy a personality disorder (infantilism, perhaps) somewhere... utlimately....... whatever |
Posted By: tuxon
Date Posted: February 22 2005 at 10:12
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It was just a cry for hELP.
ELP me, ELP me.........ELP me
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Posted By: greenback
Date Posted: February 22 2005 at 13:23
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Do you know the series of tracks having the same name on arena - songs from the lion's cage: the crying for ELP ------------- [HEADPINS - LINE OF FIRE: THE RECORD HAVING THE MOST POWERFUL GUITAR SOUND IN THE WHOLE HISTORY OF MUSIC!> |
Posted By: tuxon
Date Posted: February 22 2005 at 13:52
No, tell me more
Who makes these choices ------------- I'm always almost unlucky _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ Id5ZcnjXSZaSMFMC Id5LM2q2jfqz3YxT |
greenback wrote:Posted By: Aaron
Date Posted: February 22 2005 at 13:57
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i am confused, what happened, people made fun of elp, so he left? Aaron |
Posted By: Cluster One
Date Posted: February 22 2005 at 14:37
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He spelled 'sane' wrong.
------------- Marmalade...I like marmalade. |
Posted By: tuxon
Date Posted: February 22 2005 at 15:04
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No he correctly spelled saine, you just misspelled it and put words in his mouth that weren't there in the first place ------------- I'm always almost unlucky _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ Id5ZcnjXSZaSMFMC Id5LM2q2jfqz3YxT |
Posted By: threefates
Date Posted: February 22 2005 at 20:34
Oh Andr'e... you have to learn to fight the good fight... but you're right, there's lots of people on here who need a lot of 'elp'!!!  ------------- THIS IS ELP 
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Posted By: Prog_Bassist
Date Posted: February 22 2005 at 20:58
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...I like Elp! ------------- http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uhuxaD8NzaY" rel="nofollow - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uhuxaD8NzaY |
Posted By: aqualung28
Date Posted: February 22 2005 at 21:30
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Hey ELP is great but you don't need to leave because very few people think they're great. Hell, if I left "forever" everytime someone talked crap about any of the music I listen to (ie Beefheart, MIke Patton, Boredoms, prog in general) then I wouldn't be able to live in my house or go anywhere. Come on dude, grow up! And being insane is a gift,not a disability, so I take your remark offensively (not really, you can't offend me). Just loosen up dude ------------- "O' lady look up in time o' lady look out of love 'n you should have us all O' you should have us fall" "Bill's Corpse" By Captain Beefheart |
Posted By: Rob The Good
Date Posted: February 22 2005 at 22:57
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I was just a little upset that he labelled everyone here as a jerk...Like I said, I'm an ELP fan too ------------- And Jesus said unto John, "come forth and receive eternal life..." Unfortunately, John came fifth and was stuck with a toaster. |
Posted By: Swinton MCR
Date Posted: February 23 2005 at 07:36
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I also like ELP (in parts only) - Just think that THEY ARE NOT and NEVER have been a major league prog-rock band - why - because they only produced about 30% good stuff and the rest is crap ! ------------- Play me my song, here it comes again |
Posted By: Lunarscape
Date Posted: February 23 2005 at 10:54
This was diagnosed 2 weeks ago....Well he got an enema for his 12th year birthday ! ______ Lunar ------------- Music Is The Soul Bird That Flies In The Immense Heart Of The Listener . . . |
Posted By: Hangedman
Date Posted: March 01 2005 at 20:36
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bye karnevil if you mean it this time. Im sorry i dont think ELP is the best band in existance... Im so unworthy to be called a music fan at all because i dont. Im a horrific person and i barely deserve to live. |
Posted By: tuxon
Date Posted: March 01 2005 at 20:39
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You should be hanged for this Hangedman ------------- I'm always almost unlucky _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ Id5ZcnjXSZaSMFMC Id5LM2q2jfqz3YxT |
Posted By: Rob The Plant
Date Posted: March 01 2005 at 20:57
haha you spelled Sane wrong. ------------- Collaborators will take your soul. |
Posted By: Rob The Plant
Date Posted: March 01 2005 at 20:58
I hate to break it to you, but the band on your avatar there didn't fare so well in the later years either mate. ------------- Collaborators will take your soul. |
Posted By: Spartacus
Date Posted: March 01 2005 at 21:53
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What the hell is wrong with ELP fans? I really like ELP, but why is that so many ELP fans just can't accept that there are so many other great prog bands and some much better. I think most people on this site enjoy ELP but they do not see any reason to dedicate their lives to this band. Just tell me why so many people hear ELP and their lives seem to just come to an end and they start thinking things like the best album of 1994 is In the Hot Seat. Enjoy the music and explore some the thousands of bands in the archives. You might just discover that there is more prog than just ELP. I have been holding of on saying anything about these damn topics but I just can't take it anymore.
We all know that ELP was a skillful, complex, important prog band, with a lead singer that had all the groupies in the 70s, but lets move on and return the forums back to discussions of enlightenment not stupidity.
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Posted By: greenback
Date Posted: March 02 2005 at 11:57
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well, i guess, by noticing your nick spartacus, that you love triumvirat! bravo! actually, there are maybe only 2 members involved, maybe 3 if karnevil9 is not threefates! but we all like 3f8s because she is like our sister! threefates is not snob at all, and she always answers your questions. she likes communication. watch the miscellaneous nice photos she posts here. she is generous. she loves elp, that's ok! i prefer someone who constantly shows his/her enthusiasm on an artist than someone who consistantly bashes a band that you like! when does threefates say Triumvirat is s*&t? Never, or very rarely! that's a correct attitude! ------------- [HEADPINS - LINE OF FIRE: THE RECORD HAVING THE MOST POWERFUL GUITAR SOUND IN THE WHOLE HISTORY OF MUSIC!> |
Posted By: Guests
Date Posted: March 02 2005 at 13:52
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If Karn Evil 9 is so hypersensitive that he can't take criticism for his favorite band, maybe we are better off without him. It is like natural selection on the Prog Forum! (Even though I really don't believe in the evolution fluff)
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Posted By: richardh
Date Posted: March 02 2005 at 14:36
Why resurrect this thread Hangedman?.i would be quite happy to see it deleted.I wish some of you would stop baiting Karny deliberately.He is learning and will be a valuable poster on this forum I'm sure.He just lets his passion for ELP spill over wihich seems to result in a certain amount of baiting from other members of the forum.Perhaps it will help if I admit ELP are total crap and beg for forgivness on behalf of them for the terrible crimes theyv'e committed to music. I even created a thread so you could give ELP a good bashing.What more do you want? |
Posted By: Guests
Date Posted: March 02 2005 at 19:33
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Hangedman wrote:
bye karnevil if you mean it this time. Im sorry i dont think ELP is the best band in existance... Im so unworthy to be called a music fan at all because i dont. Im a horrific person and i barely deserve to live. Rich wrote: Why resurrect this thread Hangedman?.i would be quite happy to see it deleted.I wish some of you would stop baiting Karny deliberately.He is learning and will be a valuable poster on this forum I'm sure.He just lets his passion for ELP spill over wihich seems to result in a certain amount of baiting from other members of the forum.Perhaps it will help if I admit ELP are total crap and beg for forgivness on behalf of them for the terrible crimes theyv'e committed to music. I even created a thread so you could give ELP a good bashing.What more do you want? Ah no sweat Rich...I don't fall into the trap now..I don't let my passion over spill,it's just that the few rip them up for no reason/un-fairness.But it's all water under the bridge now.We've all agreed that ELP are fantastic. he he he
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Posted By: Hangedman
Date Posted: March 03 2005 at 19:24
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I wasnt aware i resurected it..... and i like elp, just not IM LEAVING BECAUSE I CANT HANDLE OTHER PEOPLE OPINIONS threads. |
Posted By: goose
Date Posted: March 12 2005 at 17:06
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Guests
I appreciate I haven't been following the forum too closely of late, but what's this all about?
edit: Whoops, sorry I resurrected the thread, I forgot I'd been linked to it from another one... |
Posted By: dougiejs
Date Posted: March 12 2005 at 18:34
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I'll admit to being fairly new to this site but I don't get all this beef about ELP.I don't particularly like them despite years of trying(although I would admit that 'Still you turn me on' is a damn good song) surely the point is that there will always be differant tastes and VIVE to that.I would agree that PERSONALLY lambasting someone for their taste is childish but by the same token you should learn to ignore such foolishness.I for instance am a long standing devotee of Van der Graaf Generator and if I had taken personal offence over the last 25 years or so to anybody that had said that they thought Peter Hammills voice was rubbish or that the music was overblown incomprehensible s**t I'd have had to leave the planet or kill somebody.So Karn just take it on the chin man and laugh it off as the loss to us that do not understand what you know to be the true light! STILL WAITING FOR MY SAVIOUR........................................ |
Posted By: Reed Lover
Date Posted: March 12 2005 at 18:43
A member has been removed.By his own volition,but he has been removed. Betting on next casualty: 1/2 karnevil Send all monies to reed lover at my usual address! -------------
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Posted By: threefates
Date Posted: March 12 2005 at 20:52
Sorry to be late.. but need to address this stupidity... Excuse me, but there are about 5 true ELP fans here... 2 or 3 hard core. There are about 10 here who bleed Genesis... so give me a frigging break. If you want to add up threads.. lets see how many are dedicated to ELP and how many to Genesis... If you can't say something a bit more intelligent or at least accurate.. then maybe you should hold off a little longer.... Also being an ELP fan doesn't mean we don't listen to other bands. I think I've proven more than enough that I listen to a lot of other prog bands.. some I love, some I'm trying... but ELP is my favorite band... always have been. They're a big part of my life.. and if I want to praise them, as everyone else praises their favorite bands... then I should be able to without someone giving me a hard time or bashing ELP just for my sake... In my opinion, they are the greatest... now accept that.. and move on... ------------- THIS IS ELP
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Posted By: Guests
Date Posted: March 12 2005 at 21:01
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You tell em Linda.
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Posted By: goose
Date Posted: March 13 2005 at 06:23
What! He didn't say don't talk about ELP; I believe he said don't have stupid and pointless (well, more than neccessary...) discussions (and you must admit, there have been many recently involving ELP). I assume that it's addressed to both "sides" as well, and to me seems both more intelligent and accurate than the mudslinging that's been going on... if I misinterpreted him, I apologise, but regardless of which this is my last comment on the matter. |
Posted By: plodder
Date Posted: March 13 2005 at 06:35
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I've lived with everyone taking the p*ss about my liking of ELP since I was 11, I'm now 46 and it still happens. Walk tall, walk straight and look the world right in the eye. |
Posted By: Guests
Date Posted: March 13 2005 at 08:29
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plodder wrote: I've lived with everyone taking the p*ss about my liking of ELP since I was 11, I'm now 46 and it still happens. Hi Plodder I don't know what it is about Prog fans & ELP...christ,i'm an Avid ELP fan & personally think they are the Greatest band of the era...we'll they are But i also have a deep passion for other bands ie:Yes,Genesis,Floyd etc i would'nt dream of directly ripping those bands apart...To me their NOT as good as ELP, but have the upmost respect for them...What i can't get my head around,is fans of the mentioned bands ripping ELP up ...very odd indeed,surely it works both ways..
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Posted By: Reed Lover
Date Posted: March 13 2005 at 08:35
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Maybe because we dont seek sexual relationships with our favourite bands! Loving someone's music is one thing but being besotted with the individual members suggests a more juvenile attachment.Broadcasting it to adults like schoolyard gossip is only going to elicit one reaction:abject derision! This is not a pre-teen fansite.Grow up.Instead of certain individuals coming back with something smug and dismissive,why dont they listen to the bulk of the members on this forum.I am NOT a lone voice,nor do I dislike ELP. Rationalise it even further:if ELP are so good,why did they go bankrupt all those years ago? All the band members are still alive and do not appear to have fallen out.So why are they not a viable marketable commodity? Rush can do it,even Yes can.This is the same audience! -------------
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Please!Posted By: plodder
Date Posted: March 13 2005 at 08:37
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I think ELP didn't help themselves to be honest. They were very humourless and the pomp that they surrounded themselves with alienated the majority of other music fans. I have had the pleasure of listening to them all my music loving life. Like you I also like a whole lot of other bands but I always get that extra buzz when I put an ELP vinyl on the turntable. I suppose at my age things like people hating my choice of music really doesn't matter to me anymore. |
Posted By: Guests
Date Posted: March 13 2005 at 09:14
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Reed Lover
Maybe because we dont seek sexual relationships with our favourite bands! Reed i here this sh*t from you generally aimed at three fates..for god sake drop it & leave her alone... Loving someone's music is one thing but being besotted with the individual members suggests a more juvenile attachment.Broadcasting it to adults like schoolyard gossip is only going to elicit one reaction:abject derision! I'm not besotted with ELP at all actually i hardly listern to the band from day to day.This is a forum right! a marketing tool to discuss & promote you fav bands..i'm taking the oportunity ok...Reed you do enough Rush promoting yourself.. This is not a pre-teen fansite.Grow up.Instead of certain individuals coming back with something smug and dismissive,why dont they listen to the bulk of the members on this forum.I am NOT a lone voice,nor do I dislike ELP. Reed your the most sarcastic b*****d on here..I find your behaviour against peoples comments really child like..I'm almost convinced you do this on a purpose...There's no rules on here about how you can promote you band so live with it Reed..It might break your heart to see ELP posts here & there but tough live with it instead of coming back with some childish jibe just to piss certain members off... Rationalise it even further:if ELP are so good,why did they go bankrupt all those years ago? One example,you know full well ELP were show men par excellence with excess being in abundance..Works tour: Royal Philamonic orchestra on tour with them was a key contributer to cash loss amongs other things.. All the band members are still alive and do not appear to have fallen out.So why are they not a viable marketable commodity? I'm gonna stick my kneck out here..Look at Yes these days...sh*t in short drastic style change from younger years..no thanks...Same with Rush,Genesis etc...I'm actually hoping that ELP do no re-form,i know i won't like there style if '3' & 'ELPowell' are anything to go by...
Yes i do enjoy them as they were in there hey day & yes they were very very popular.thank you. Please! Yes please get of ELP fans case......
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Posted By: Reed Lover
Date Posted: March 13 2005 at 09:31
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So,we now understand your problem. You mistakenly believed this site was designed for fans of certain bands to advertise and promote those bands. Well it isnt! You should apologise to the Admin Group,The Moderator and Forum Members for making this wildly inaccurate assumption. Out of the mouths of babes and................ -------------
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Wrong.Where did you get this banal idea from? This forum is a discussion site for Prog Rock music and the bands who play it,fan sites are for marketing bands.
Posted By: Guests
Date Posted: March 13 2005 at 09:38
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Well lets al go with crap bands then..not menton ELP or show any pics ok....So you stop posting Rush pics aswell.... This is also a prog site so members mentioning & driving on about bands such as Uriah heep,Judas priest etcare not welcome here too yeh.
I love the admin,moderators s**t you always bring up.. Get knotted Reed.
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Posted By: Reed Lover
Date Posted: March 13 2005 at 09:45
This site is for discussing bands and the music scene in general.It is not designed as a marketing tool for the aggressive promotion of individual bands.This is called "spamming" and you have inadvertantly admitted that you are guilty of it.Why dont you just aplogise and stop prolonging your embarrassment? -------------
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Posted By: frenchie
Date Posted: March 13 2005 at 11:27
reed, you constantly keep shooting my tie fighter down  ------------- The Worthless Recluse 
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Posted By: Reed Lover
Date Posted: March 13 2005 at 11:30
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Choose your weapon:
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Posted By: Guests
Date Posted: March 13 2005 at 11:32
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frenchie wrote: reed, you constantly keep shooting my tie fighter down
Contantly pissing me off more like.I know where he wants that phaser!
Exit stage left.....
Spam alert...whoops! |
Posted By: Reed Lover
Date Posted: March 13 2005 at 11:34
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Damn,span to spam,man- spoiled my plan! -------------
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Posted By: threefates
Date Posted: March 13 2005 at 11:46
P.S. You are not my father or my boyfriend... and should stop trying to act as such!!! ------------- THIS IS ELP
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Posted By: Reed Lover
Date Posted: March 13 2005 at 11:58
Ridiculous over-reaction at what is basically a problem with another member,who does not understand the kerfuffle over ELP on this site.If that final statement was an attempt to provoke me,then it has failed miserably.What on earth makes you think I am obsessed with you? Answer this question,indulge me for once:
Do you think karnevil9 is normal? -------------
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Posted By: Velvetclown
Date Posted: March 13 2005 at 11:59
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Threefates got a boyfriend
------------- Billy Connolly Dream Theater Terry Gilliam Hagen Quartet Jethro Tull Mike Keneally |
Posted By: threefates
Date Posted: March 13 2005 at 12:07
So in your "problem with another member"... you need to mention my sexual relationships??? and you wonder why I think you're obsessed with me???? And regarding the oedipus complex... thats not what your wife says... Regarding Karnevil9... he seems just as normal to me as you do.... ------------- THIS IS ELP
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Posted By: Reed Lover
Date Posted: March 13 2005 at 12:07
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Threefates: Why dont you have a word with your guard dog.He seems to be the one who wants to "mother" you,add an "s" and you will find the only thing I'd want to do with you! The kindest thing I could say is that you are speaking with your heart,not your brain. Ps My wife is aware of these posts-let's just say she's in no hurry to get a makeover. -------------
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Posted By: Sweetnighter
Date Posted: March 13 2005 at 12:10
 There are kids in my high school class who act more maturely than this! ------------- I bleed coffee. When I don't drink coffee, my veins run dry, and I shrivel up and die. "Banco Del Mutuo Soccorso? Is that like the bank of Italian soccer death or something?" -my girlfriend |
Posted By: Reed Lover
Date Posted: March 13 2005 at 12:15
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You must really look forward to school then!
By the way schoolie it is "more mature"
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Posted By: threefates
Date Posted: March 13 2005 at 12:19
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Posted By: threefates
Date Posted: March 13 2005 at 12:21
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BTW.. don't think I don't realize that you do this because no one else will debate with you here anymore.. and you really only have these little tittats with me... I'm only happy to oblige since you seem to have nothing else... ------------- THIS IS ELP
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Posted By: Velvetclown
Date Posted: March 13 2005 at 12:23
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Threefates: Go suck on a part of Greg, that you haven´t sucked on yet
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Posted By: Sweetnighter
Date Posted: March 13 2005 at 12:24
Velvetclown.... always the voice of reason! ------------- I bleed coffee. When I don't drink coffee, my veins run dry, and I shrivel up and die. "Banco Del Mutuo Soccorso? Is that like the bank of Italian soccer death or something?" -my girlfriend |
Posted By: The-Bullet
Date Posted: March 13 2005 at 12:25
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Usually not a great lover of soaps, but I can't help tuning in to this one ------------- 
"Why say it cannot be done.....they'd be better doing pop songs?" |
Posted By: Reed Lover
Date Posted: March 13 2005 at 12:26
So leaning against a PA stack with an audience is not grubby? I would say that there are very few cultures/religions would accept this as non-promiscuous behaviour.Swingers or hedonists on the other hand.... So go on,why did you tell everyone that you were a groupie?
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Posted By: threefates
Date Posted: March 13 2005 at 12:27
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That would be impossible.. theres not a part of him I haven't tasted... ------------- THIS IS ELP
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Posted By: Reed Lover
Date Posted: March 13 2005 at 12:29
Fidelity? And all the other things a rock star never reserves for his groupies! -------------
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Posted By: threefates
Date Posted: March 13 2005 at 12:31
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Posted By: threefates
Date Posted: March 13 2005 at 12:33
I did get respect and loyalty..... cause there are some things I do very very well.... Fidelity.. is highly overrated.. and misunderstood...
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Posted By: Reed Lover
Date Posted: March 13 2005 at 12:34
It doesnt.But it is totally relevant to your opinion of ELP!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! -------------
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Posted By: Reed Lover
Date Posted: March 13 2005 at 12:35
I rest my case. Hopefully this will explain to the newer members what all this over-promotion of ELP and the backlash against it,is all about. QED.
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Posted By: threefates
Date Posted: March 13 2005 at 12:36
Hardly.. I was a huge ELP fan before I ever met them. Again you make inaccurate assumptions. ------------- THIS IS ELP
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Posted By: Reed Lover
Date Posted: March 13 2005 at 12:42
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I'll let anyone who is still reading this,judge that final statement. QED -------------
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Posted By: threefates
Date Posted: March 13 2005 at 12:42
They already knew what it was about... YOu've proven youself over and over... and in more threads than this. I started a legitimate thread regarding the music of ELP...for those like Frenchie who have never heard them... YOu go and switch this from being a legitimate thread.. to a thread of attacks and generalizations about specific members. You added no musical knowledge.. you added nothing of relevance... you just spewed inaccurate and uncalled for attacks. If you can't add anything of relevance to a thread... then please don't join in. You even promised me several weeks ago that you would not reply to any of my messages anymore.. and again you lied... And you want to people to think there is something wrong with KE9.. Next to you, he's the sane one. ------------- THIS IS ELP
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Posted By: Reed Lover
Date Posted: March 13 2005 at 12:46
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Posted By: threefates
Date Posted: March 13 2005 at 12:46
Yeh, it won't be hard for them to recognize the drama queen around here... Are you sure you're really straight?? ------------- THIS IS ELP
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Posted By: Reed Lover
Date Posted: March 13 2005 at 12:48
This is getting quite desperate........
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Date Posted: March 13 2005 at 12:52
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Posted By: threefates
Date Posted: March 13 2005 at 13:16
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Ignoring the space cadet above with illusions of grandeur... and illusions of having a life... I'd like to return this thread to that which he is evidently the most threatened by... actual talk of the music. In regard to those who haven't heard ELP before.. (ELP= actual prog band from the 70s... that is supposedly discussed on this board). I've just found out that Keith Emerson is releasing a double cd soon of his solo works in the next few months. It will be called "Hammer it Out"...
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Posted By: frenchie
Date Posted: March 13 2005 at 13:18
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greg lake is so fat that when he bent over in public he got arrested for dealing crack. ooh that reminds me, i might be getting a copy of "elp" from a friend! i can finally listen to this band and see what all the fuss is about. ------------- The Worthless Recluse
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Posted By: plodder
Date Posted: March 13 2005 at 13:19
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Posted By: Reed Lover
Date Posted: March 13 2005 at 13:24
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Posted By: plodder
Date Posted: March 13 2005 at 13:26
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haha. Touche I'm soothing myself listening to Ten Years Gone. Let the childishness carry on then |
Posted By: Pixel Pirate
Date Posted: March 13 2005 at 14:00
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As someone who has been blessed/cursed with the libido of a Buddhist monk,I must say the groupie phenomenon baffled me for many years. Take this scenario: A man works as a mailman. He does not have screaming girls tearing his clothes off whenever he is seen in public. He then forms a rock band. They become very popular. Now this very same man has screaming girls tearing his clothes off whenever he is seen in public. The only thing that has changed is that he is now on a stage with a guitar as opposed to walking the streets carrying a mailbag. THAT'S THE ONLY DIFFERENCE. And yet it means going from being completely ignored by most women to becoming the sexiest man in the world. Mick Jagger is a very,very unattractive man. And if he had been Mick Jagger the accountant and not Mick Jagger the rockstar his sexlife would have dwindled to having sex occasionally with his wife,if he had been able to obtain one, looking like one of Dr. Frankenstein's failed experiments as he does. But since he is posturing about on a stage in front of a rock band he becomes unbelievably sexy to women who OTHERWISE WOULD HAVE IGNORED HIM COMPLETLY. This didn't make sense to me until I started reading zoology and anthropology. It's a well know fact that the female of most species that has what we would refer to as a mating ritual (not all species do) responds most favourably to the alpha male,ie. the male that somehow manages to stand out from the herd/flock/group. That is what all the fighting in the mating season is all about: Emerging as the strongest male so that the females want to mate with you. And the theory is that the reason why women find a man on a stage attractive for no other reason than that he is on that stage is that he has emerged as an alpha male,he stands out among the other males of the species as being someone of superior abilities to the other males. After all: He's up on that stage wowing thousands of people unlike the anymous everymen they meet everyday,that makes him special,he's managed something not so many males manage,it means he has superior genetic material,so they'll want to mate with him. It's why stags butt heads and it's why young men pick up electric guitars,the mating ritual is depressingly similar and familar. It's also the reason why women find men in powerful positions more attractive than men who aren't. It's the subconscious drive to seek out the best genetic material for her offspring,whether the female in question is a beetle,a goldfish or a woman. The reason women (well a lot of them anyway) deny this is quite simply as I said: It's a subconscious drive that rarely,if at all,surfaces into the conscious mind. Most of what we do is not based on conscious decisions but subconscious instincts genetically passed down the many generations since we first stood upright on the African plain and they still form the basis of most of our actions. Hence the groupie phenomenon. And now Threefates can refute this as I'm sure as an emancipated American woman who came of age in the 70's and 80's,brought up on feminist rubbish,she will do. And this was far too much for me to write these days so I think I''ll have a lie down now.
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Posted By: Cygnus X-2
Date Posted: March 13 2005 at 14:34
Very Well written.
Not to mention Keith Richards. ------------- 
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Posted By: threefates
Date Posted: March 13 2005 at 15:16
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Could partially be true... but then not necessarily. If that was all there was too it, I'd have gone after Keith Emerson instead.. Sorry, but you just don't understand women at all. It has to do with our hearts. I was 17 when I met Greg Lake for the first time. It really wouldn't have mattered who or what he was, when he smiled at me the first time, my knees collapsed. The first time he called my name, my body quivered from head to toe.. and 30 years later I still remember it... He was just the most beautiful thing I had ever seen... I would have gone with him, if he had been a long shoreman on the docks.. And actually, as a man you might think that Mick Jagger is unattractive... and Keith Richards.. but there was a time, when they were really cute...
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Posted By: Pixel Pirate
Date Posted: March 13 2005 at 15:26
Keith Richards could have starred in any zombie movie and there would have been no need for makeup,yet all through the 60's,70's and 80's,the women who wanted to have sex with him are too numerous to list. They would not have wanted this if he had been an insurance salesman. ------------- Odi profanum vulgus et arceo. |
Posted By: Pixel Pirate
Date Posted: March 13 2005 at 15:35
Well,I wasn't thinking of you really,more groupies in general who,you can't deny,have sex with men who are famous for no other reason than that they are famous. And I wasn't advancing a pet theory of my own but relaying the latest thinking in zoology and anthropology. And if you're actually (or at least were) genuinely in love with Greg Lake,that's rather sweet. I'm a romantic at heart. ------------- Odi profanum vulgus et arceo. |
But there's absolutely no doubt that the alpha male impulse is very strong in human females as it is in most females across the zoological spectrum.Posted By: frenchie
Date Posted: March 13 2005 at 15:39
talk like that will only leave you sleeping on the couch ------------- The Worthless Recluse
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Posted By: Pixel Pirate
Date Posted: March 13 2005 at 15:48
I have somehow managed to obtain a girfriend along the path of my life and she's never made me sleep on the couch. On the floor occasionally but never the couch. ------------- Odi profanum vulgus et arceo. |
Posted By: CrimsonKing
Date Posted: March 13 2005 at 16:39
Karny and 3fates are annoying because they are closeminded to other prog bands and don't promote them as vigorously. With 3fates it's all about Greg. Any newbie that joins the forum can spot that right away. It's tiresome. ------------- RED EYE |
Posted By: Guests
Date Posted: March 13 2005 at 17:01
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CrimsonKing wrote:
Karny and 3fates are annoying because they are closeminded to other prog bands and don't promote them as vigorously. With 3fates it's all about Greg. Any newbie that joins the forum can spot that right away. It's tiresome. How many more times do i i have to say that i don't listern to ELP that much.I actually listern to many many other bands,mostly proto prog bands.Just that i find ELP to be the better band at that time...i think you'll find three fates has mentioned in a past thread that she also has appreciation of other bands. Believe me i've started or added to threads regarding other early prog bands i favour,but had no continuation..leads me to believe that many members in the room are either total oblivious of have never heard of these bands...so wheres that leave me over even attemping to start on about them... I have a massive prog vinyl collection & equally massive knowlage of bands that seems to be very much wasted in the room...So how am i close minded! Being confronted everyday with threads started about non-prog bands of new fangled bands which people think they can pass as prog....now that's tiresome.
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Posted By: frenchie
Date Posted: March 13 2005 at 17:06
you think you have problems, i had to have my penis amputated! ------------- The Worthless Recluse
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Posted By: frenchie
Date Posted: March 13 2005 at 17:07
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end of. ------------- The Worthless Recluse
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Posted By: CrimsonKing
Date Posted: March 13 2005 at 17:13
Everytime you post you are promoting ELP with that logo. A lot of newbies get first impressions. My advice to you is to start promoting some of these less well known proto prog bands that prolly need as much attention as they can get. ------------- RED EYE |
Posted By: Guests
Date Posted: March 13 2005 at 17:14
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frenchie wrote:
You poor B*****d...
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Posted By: frenchie
Date Posted: March 13 2005 at 17:16
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thats right... i am living proof that a man still still survive after having his head cut off ------------- The Worthless Recluse
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Posted By: Reed Lover
Date Posted: March 13 2005 at 17:21
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dang,just beat me to it......... anyway,I thought you got itchy feet in February and "was never seen again..........?" -------------
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Posted By: James Lee
Date Posted: March 13 2005 at 17:21
KE9: if you lose the logo, learn to left-justify instead of center, and use a decent-sized font. I promise I'll never bad-mouth you again! ------------- http://www.last.fm/user/sollipsist/?chartstyle=kaonashi"> 
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Posted By: frenchie
Date Posted: March 13 2005 at 17:23
shh! ------------- The Worthless Recluse
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Posted By: Reed Lover
Date Posted: March 13 2005 at 17:23
and use a spell-checker,get a face lift,and a sense of humour and humility,stop sending unsolicited emails to forum members............................that's what i like about you K9..........
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Posted By: frenchie
Date Posted: March 13 2005 at 17:26
haha, you got admit K9, he sure has a sense of humour! ------------- The Worthless Recluse
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