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Topic: Chess Prog
Posted By: Minimalist777
Subject: Chess Prog
Date Posted: May 07 2007 at 20:04
Prog and Chess go together like Cheese and Wine!
So, there's the Yes song  "I've Seen All Good People" and of course Gryphon's masterpiece Red Queen to Gryphon Three. Any other chess related prog bands/albums/songs?


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Posted By: Logan
Date Posted: May 07 2007 at 20:09
Erm, VdGG's Pawn Hearts,


Posted By: Equality 7-2521
Date Posted: May 07 2007 at 20:40
Also Peter Hammill's Fool's Mate

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Posted By: DarioIndjic
Date Posted: May 07 2007 at 21:32
All brain prog is chess progWink,like avant-garde and zheul.

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Posted By: I|I|I|I|I
Date Posted: May 07 2007 at 22:49
I could play chess to ANY kind of prog.

Although I think some nice jazz rock would be good, because their development of harmonies and rhythm is as complex as developing pieces on a chess board ;)


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Posted By: Legoman
Date Posted: May 08 2007 at 01:37
Originally posted by I|I|I|I|I I|I|I|I|I wrote:

I could play chess to ANY kind of prog.

Although I think some nice jazz rock would be good, because their development of harmonies and rhythm is as complex as developing pieces on a chess board ;)


I get the impression that isn't really his question.  Embarrassed


Posted By: The Whistler
Date Posted: May 08 2007 at 02:20
There is, to memory, but one Tull tune that mentions chess explicity: "The chessboard of the dawn" on Stormwatch's "Something's on the Move."
 
Other than that, I'll add (because no one else will) Rainbow's (prog-related) piece "Kill the King," which I swear is about chess. Or at least chess-related.


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Posted By: fuxi
Date Posted: May 08 2007 at 03:59
Last year, the Japanese band SHINSEKAI released an excellent album called ALICE THROUGH THE LOOKING GLASS, based on the greatest "chess story" in World literature! (The style is Zappa-meets the Hatfields-meet Crimso. Great fun, and available from Amazon.jp!)


Posted By: iguana
Date Posted: May 08 2007 at 04:54
someone once coined the phrase “chessboard prog“ – as a nod twds.
PENDRAGON, who had chessboards on their album covers. and jesters,
and wizards. and elves. and magpies, dragons, ivory towers...

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Posted By: Mategra
Date Posted: May 08 2007 at 05:55
Parallel or 90 Degrees' VdGG/Peter Hammill tribute-album "No More Travelling Chess".
 
And the ultimate chess prog piece:
Isildurs Bane's "Holistic Medicine" off their album "MIND vol 1". It is really a game of chess set to music, where the spoken lyrics describe the moves of a complete game.
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Posted By: salmacis
Date Posted: May 08 2007 at 06:15
Funnily enough, the sleevenotes to The Yes Album actually made this point about prog rock songs about chess- they listed Your Move and Gryphon's 'Red Queen...' as well.
 
There is The Enid's album 'Six Pieces' which has a chessboard on the cover, I seem to recall.


Posted By: Uroboros
Date Posted: May 08 2007 at 06:15
Originally posted by Mategra Mategra wrote:

Parallel or 90 Degrees' VdGG/Peter Hammill tribute-album "No More Travelling Chess".
 
And the ultimate chess prog piece:
Isildurs Bane's "Holistic Medicine" off their album "MIND vol 1". It is really a game of chess set to music, where the spoken lyrics describe the moves of a complete game.
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I love that piece so much, I actually grabbed a chessboard one day and started playing the actual game the voice describes. The way the music gets more intense as the game progresses and the tension on the board grows is wonderful, perfectly coinciding with every movement. However, towards the end of the track things seem to fall apart, since when he says "resigns" in the end, moves are still possible on the board (the king is not completely cornered, so to speak). Maybe you can shed some light on that - did they just give up telling the whole game or am I missing something? Of course, assuming you were crazy enough to try it yourself, which had better not be true. Tongue
Also, Ephel Duath make a chess reference on "The Other's Touch" from The Painter's Palette, where they say something about a game between chessmen of only one colour, form the point of view of the chessboard itself ("the battlefield").


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Posted By: Rocktopus
Date Posted: May 08 2007 at 06:25
A spectactular bonus track from the Cos-album Postaeolian Train Robbery - La partie d'échecs. Previously unreleased from their pre-Cos days when they were called 'Classroom'.

Taken from Sean Trane's review: 'La Partie D’Echecs is hilarious as she tells us that the white pawn of the chess game is lifting her dress and the vile bishop slayed her, the whole thing sung at such a speed that one would’ve wondered if their Lp was not on 45 RPM' (had this been ever released at the time of course)

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Posted By: Uroboros
Date Posted: May 08 2007 at 06:37
Oh, and there's also "The Morals of Chess", a two-minute drum solo by Virgil Donati from his album Just Add Water, a guaranteed jaw-dropper, although the actual connection with chess is probably only in the title.
Also, the opening track on Miriodor's Rencontres album is called "Checkmate".

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Posted By: A B Negative
Date Posted: May 08 2007 at 07:57
How about Manuel Gottsching's E2-E4?
 
Not my favourite of his, but the LP cover comes in handy if you lose your chess board. Wink
 
http://images.google.co.uk/imgres?imgurl=http://www.woebot.com/images/kraut/e2e4.jpg&imgrefurl=http://www.woebot.com/movabletype/archives/000734.html&h=302&w=300&sz=52&hl=en&start=3&tbnid=FPSAxhitnvkRZM:&tbnh=116&tbnw=115&prev=/images%3Fq%3Dgottsching%2Be2%2Be4%26gbv%3D2%26svnum%3D10%26hl%3Den">


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Posted By: The Hemulen
Date Posted: May 08 2007 at 08:05
Isuldur's Bane did a lengthy piece on their MIND vol 1 album that featured lots of spoken chess moves. Can't remember what it was called off-hand. It's a good track though - hits you with an unexpected and very catchy guitar riff about 10 minutes in!


Posted By: aprusso
Date Posted: May 08 2007 at 08:41
Originally posted by Mategra Mategra wrote:

Parallel or 90 Degrees' VdGG/Peter Hammill tribute-album "No More Travelling Chess".
 
And the ultimate chess prog piece:
Isildurs Bane's "Holistic Medicine" off their album "MIND vol 1". It is really a game of chess set to music, where the spoken lyrics describe the moves of a complete game.
I
 
it's a quote from "In the end", CITSOTN


Posted By: paulindigo
Date Posted: May 08 2007 at 09:04
Dusk by Genesis has these lines:
A pawn on a chessboard,
A false move by God will now destroy me


Posted By: dave-the-rave
Date Posted: May 08 2007 at 10:13
Another chess-related 'Alice In Wonderland' reference is in Jefferson Airplane's "White Rabbit:"

When men on the chessboard
Get up and tell you where to go
And you've just had some kind of mushroom
And your mind is moving low
Go ask Alice
I think she'll know

When logic and proportion
Have fallen softly dead
And the White Knight is talking backwards
And the Red Queen's "off with her head!"
Remember what the dormouse said:
"Feed your head
Feed your head
Feed your head"

Don't think of it as prog myself, but hey, chess reference beggars can't be choosers.


Posted By: Minimalist777
Date Posted: May 08 2007 at 16:09

Glad to read everyone's responses! The Isildur's Bane one looks interesting, I should try and track it down.

I had no idea I copied liner notes from The Yes Album
Oh well..... LOL


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Posted By: VanderGraafKommandöh
Date Posted: May 08 2007 at 17:52
Infact, "no more travelling chess" is a line from "In the End", which is from Peter Hammill's album "Chameleon in the Shadow of the Night".  The line "No more rushing around, no more travelling chess;" related back to when Hammill and David Jackson (I think), played travel chess on the tourbus (which they shared with Genesis and Lindesfarne on the 6 bob tours).

"Fool's Mate" is in relation to the fastest way to get some in Check Mate.

Hammill even refers to Alice in Wonderland, but not in relation to Chess, on his album "Over".


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Posted By: richardh
Date Posted: May 09 2007 at 12:48
'Dance Of The Knights' Prokoviev was adapted by ELP and called 'Romeo And Juliet'.
 
The ELP track 'The Miracle' also has the lyric ''The Bishop Takes The Pawn''
 
 
By the way the qickest way to deliver checkmate is :
 
1g4  e5 (or e6)
2 f3 (or f4) Qh4 
 
fascinating for non chess players I expect Big%20smile
 
 
 
 
 
 


Posted By: Moogtron III
Date Posted: May 09 2007 at 16:23
The musical "Chess" by Björn and Benny is not prog enough to appear here, I suppose?
 
That's what I figured. If you feel that way, don't pay attention to this remark then. Wipe it off your memory.



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