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Topic: Underrated prog-related guitar heroes
Posted By: Heptade
Subject: Underrated prog-related guitar heroes
Date Posted: April 26 2007 at 13:18
These chaps have all gained some measure of renown, but not as much as the famousness of the Pages, Claptons and Hendrixes of the world. All of them have made an album that is either on this site or could be considered prog-related. Who's yer fave?

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Posted By: Heptade
Date Posted: April 26 2007 at 13:22
My thoughts

1. R Thompson - Unquestionably a guitar god- did receive a lot of attention in the 90s, better late than never.
2. McPhee - A great, great player, pretty well unknown today, sadly
3. Nelson - Such incredible technique, I can't believe he's not more famous
4. Roeser - BOC was huge in their day, but you rarely hear him mentioned in the pantheon.
5. Trower - Well known amongst guitar enthusiasts, at least.
6. Lambert - Not flashy, but gave the Strawbs the rock edge they needed to become hitmakers in 1973.
7. Mitchell - Spent the 80s and 90s ruining his legacy with cheeze, but an astounding guitar player, not dissimilar to Nelson in his chops.

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Posted By: mystic fred
Date Posted: April 26 2007 at 13:35
i voted for Tony McPhee -  one of my all-time favourite guitar heroes whether he's playing heavy rock or blues he blows many others away, he's also an incredibly nice guy and dedicated blues fan, i bought him a pint and had a chat wiith him at a pub gig some years ago, some of his early Groundhogs albums could surely be considered Prog enough to be included in PA,  though most people think of him principally as a blues musician.Smile
 


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Posted By: febus
Date Posted: April 26 2007 at 14:10
Richard ThomPsonThumbs%20Up    a man of good taste
 
 
A good poll, Mr Heptade, but you forget to cast your vote for ThompsonLOL


Posted By: Heptade
Date Posted: April 26 2007 at 14:14
OK, I would normally vote for Nelson, but RT is my namesake, after all.

I'm not related to him, unfortunately.

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Posted By: progadicto
Date Posted: April 26 2007 at 14:32
Robin Trower for me...

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Posted By: seamus
Date Posted: April 26 2007 at 14:37

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Peter "Ollie" Halsall was one of the most underrated guitarists ever. It is amazing that so few people (especially guitarists) seem to know about him. His guitar work was so unusual, fast, and fluid that it could make you laugh. He could also make it sing very movingly given a gentle tune. If the world made any sense, he would be way up there on the guitar hero list with Jimi Hendrix, Jeff Beck, etc. But he never really cared much about being a guitar hero. He was blessed with an incredible gift for music, and he was a thoughtful musician, not just a flashy guitar lickster.


Posted By: Logan
Date Posted: April 26 2007 at 14:37
Good idea for a poll!  I went with Thompson.

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Posted By: Passionist
Date Posted: April 26 2007 at 14:42
I dont' think anyone of them is very underrated. forgotten perhaps. I'd vote for Jukka Tolonen if I had the choise, but I don't.


Posted By: Nipsey88
Date Posted: April 26 2007 at 16:45
Although I prolly could have just as easily voted for Thompson (got to see him open solo for Crowded House in the early 90's, he was simply amazing), I had to go with Nelson for two reasons: One, he didnt have any votes and I felt bad for 'im, two, Be Bop has long been a favorite of mine, and seems to slip between the cracks. Nelson's firey Hendrix style glissando and ear for melody really made that band something special.

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Posted By: fuxi
Date Posted: April 26 2007 at 17:41
I love Be-Bop Deluxe, which I discovered only last year, but even Bill Nelson can't hold a candle to RICHARD THOMPSON, undoubtedly the most versatile guitar hero the U.K. has ever produced.

I mean exactly what I'm saying. Jimmy Page and Eric Clapton might be guitar heroes; even Steve Howe and Robert Fripp are heroes of mine (in a way); but none of them ever wrote songs as brilliant or as chilling as Thompson's "Can't Win", "Beeswing", "Vincent Black Lightning", "Wall of Death" - and at least a few dozen others.


Posted By: BroSpence
Date Posted: April 26 2007 at 23:45
Richie Thompson is a mad man on guitar and has a wonderful voice to go with it.  He should be hailed as ruler.


Posted By: Spacemac
Date Posted: April 27 2007 at 10:21
Robin Trower


Posted By: Dick Heath
Date Posted: April 27 2007 at 12:01
Robin Trower was tarred with being a Hendrix imitator soon after leaving Procol Harum - but so may Stevie Ray Vaughan and  Walter Trout with their Hendrix covers. However, Trower has now well developed his own blue guitar sound and his album 21th Century Blues was my favourite electric blues album of the 90's.
 
Tony McPhee I never believed has abandoned his strong blues roots. Even Split was more blues rock than anything else.
 
However, as you will read in Rolling Stone magazine every 5 vyears, when they yet again produce an all time Top 100 LP chart, Richard Thompson will be there with 2 or 3 albums - in other words the US has greater respect and awareness for this class British guitarist than  his own countrymen.  (So under-rated????????????????)Steeped in Anglo Scots folk tradition, the three CD set and retrospective Watching The Dark (Hannibal) , and the most excellent CD/DVD set A 100 years Of Popular Music , clearly demonstrate a guitarist with great breadth, for instance the latter for instance with covers of Gilbert & Sullivan and Britney Spears (Whoops I did it again as a madrigal!!!!!), had moments of pure genius. And whether you listen to A Sailor's tale as released with Fairport or the alternative take on Watching  The Dark, you hear a rare bit of class psychedelic folk, which helps explain why Fairport was sometimes compared with early Jefferson Airplane.
 
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Posted By: fuxi
Date Posted: April 27 2007 at 12:45
WATCHING THE DARK changed my life, and enhanced it a great deal. It must be the most magnificent career retrospective ever! Get your copy, folks, you won't regret it! (These days you can get them dirt cheap as well!)


Posted By: cookieacquired
Date Posted: April 27 2007 at 21:13
I love Blue Oyster Cult, so this was easy enough

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Posted By: Philéas
Date Posted: April 28 2007 at 05:39
"Buck Dharma" is seriously underrated, a very talented guitarist indeed. Muse's Matthew Bellamy is very good aswell, though perhaps not underrated.


Posted By: chessman
Date Posted: April 28 2007 at 11:41
Got to go with Robin Trower. Far more than just a Hendrix clone. Smile


Posted By: micky
Date Posted: April 28 2007 at 11:55
hell yeah...



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Posted By: clarke2001
Date Posted: April 30 2007 at 10:54
I went with DL of Strawbs - good guitarist, perhaps not an outstanding technician, but whatever he plays it's always lovely.

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Posted By: Asyte2c00
Date Posted: May 11 2007 at 23:22
I'd put Randy California on that list, he's do some influential things with a guitar in late 60s/early 70s with Spirit


Posted By: Drew
Date Posted: May 11 2007 at 23:28
who?

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Posted By: debrewguy
Date Posted: May 12 2007 at 14:14
Originally posted by Heptade Heptade wrote:

These chaps have all gained some measure of renown, but not as much as the famousness of the Pages, Claptons and Hendrixes of the world. All of them have made an album that is either on this site or could be considered prog-related. Who's yer fave?

When I saw Kim Mitchell here I knew it had to be a canadian that started the thread ...Clap


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Posted By: A B Negative
Date Posted: May 19 2007 at 07:11
Richard Thompson is a fantastic guitar player. I love his electric and acoustic playing and often try to play his songs myself. I never come close...Wink

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Posted By: debrewguy
Date Posted: May 19 2007 at 12:41
I think Roeser just needs to find those old platform shoes for a boostWink

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Posted By: Mandrakeroot
Date Posted: May 22 2007 at 05:29
I vote for "Buck Dharma"

But I love the Twin guitar of Wishbone Ash (one of my preferred bands on PA):

- Andy Powell / guitar, vocals
- Ted Turner / guitar, vocals




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Posted By: The Whistler
Date Posted: May 22 2007 at 05:33
Ritchie Blackmore. I mean, yeah, we all say he's awesome, but I don't think we feel it.

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Posted By: Certif1ed
Date Posted: May 22 2007 at 13:14
Groundhogs Prog-Related?
 
Not really, they're more a hard-rockin' blues band - and a damned good one, so I vote for Tony McPhee, since he's in this poll and he's great.


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Posted By: Asyte2c00
Date Posted: May 27 2007 at 00:41
Originally posted by Drew Drew wrote:

who?
 
Randy California from Spirit.  He was originally asked to apart of  the Jimi Hendrix Experience but was too young to travel to England for try outs. 
 
He played on Hammill's The Silent Corner and the Empty Stage. 
 
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Posted By: richardh
Date Posted: July 06 2007 at 12:33
Bill Nelson from the list but what about Matt Bellamy ?(Muse).


Posted By: BroSpence
Date Posted: July 07 2007 at 05:06
I recently saw Richard Thompson live.  It confirmed my vote for him 999,999 times over.


Posted By: Melomaniac
Date Posted: July 10 2007 at 17:10
Other - Ian Crichton from Saga (never understood the prog-related label for Saga, but that's another story)
 
One of the most original guitarist I've heard, and a VERY competent one at that.


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