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Topic: Great sounding albums (CD)
Posted By: oliverstoned
Subject: Great sounding albums (CD)
Date Posted: April 05 2007 at 14:28
                  

Great sounding albums (CD)

Here's the result of some tests performed on audiophile systems with many different releases. So here are some of the best sounding CDs from my collection. This is not an exhaustive list of course and i'll enrich it regularly.

These Cds are not perfect sounding -we're on numeric- but they are among the best sounding in the "rock" area.

Prog--------------------------------------------------

-KC Japanese mini LPs HDCD remaster 2004.

-Caravan Deram 2001 remasters, (especially "If i could...").

-PF London 66/67 (Pucka Puc66 2005)

-Kraftwerk I
                  II (Crown records 1994)

-Far east family band/Parallel world (Nippon columbia 1991)-awesome.

-Ash ra temple/ Starring Rosi (Spalax 1993)

-Agitation free/ Malesh,
                 2nd (Spalax 1994)

-John G Perry/ Sunset Wading (Voiceprint Blueprint BP288CD
1999)

Classic rock/psyche-----------------------------------

-Doors 2001 remasters (BTW the whole Door's catalog is about to be re-released with many bonus, more news soon).

-Joplin/ Pearl Columbia legacy 2005 superb double mini LP with bonus and the full Festival express concert 1970.

-It's a beautiful day (San Francisco sound 11790DA).

David Crosby/ If i could... Columbia 7567-81415-2


Jazzrock------------------------------------------

Pat Metheny/ Bright size life (ECM 1073)

Codona I
            II
           III (ECM)

Abercrombie/ Arcade (ECM)

Steve Tibbetts/ YR
               Northern song (ECM)













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Posted By: el böthy
Date Posted: April 05 2007 at 23:00
coooooooooooooooooooooooooooool

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Posted By: Guests
Date Posted: April 06 2007 at 02:46
Originally posted by oliverstoned oliverstoned wrote:

                   

-we're on numeric-

 
What did you mean by this?


Posted By: stonebeard
Date Posted: April 06 2007 at 02:48
Originally posted by oliverstoned oliverstoned wrote:

-Caravan Deram 2001 remasters, (especially "If i could...").


I thought the vocals on at least a few tracks were mixed quite softly.


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Posted By: oliverstoned
Date Posted: April 06 2007 at 03:17
Originally posted by Glueman Glueman wrote:

Originally posted by oliverstoned oliverstoned wrote:

                    -we're on numeric-


What did you mean by this?


I was just reminding that Cd can't be pefect cause by essence it's numeric and it can't match the vinyl.


Posted By: oliverstoned
Date Posted: April 06 2007 at 03:19
Originally posted by stonebeard stonebeard wrote:


Originally posted by oliverstoned oliverstoned wrote:

-Caravan Deram 2001 remasters, (especially "If i could...").
I thought the vocals on at least a few tracks were mixed quite softly.


You mean the bonus tracks or the original album?

Ther's a bonus which is awesome -both musically and sound-, it's "A day in the life of Maurice Haylett". Great dynamic.
These Caravan CDs suffer from the usual drawback: a little overbumped, but the precense is superb and the highs are very soft.




Posted By: oliverstoned
Date Posted: April 06 2007 at 12:52


-Jethro tull/ Living in the past (a little overbumped but still).    Chrysalis 1999 CDP 32 1575 2

-Klaus Shultze/ Mirage
                   Irrlicht    SPV revisited 2006 (Digipack)

-Neu!     2001 remaster Astralwerks ASW30780



Posted By: el böthy
Date Posted: April 09 2007 at 19:13
What about more recent albums? Albums that might not be remastered, but released in the last couple of years?



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Posted By: rileydog22
Date Posted: April 09 2007 at 21:31
Oliver, by "overbumped," do you mean the master volume is too high, to the point of clipping?  I'm no audiphile, so I'm not really familiar with the terms.  

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Posted By: oliverstoned
Date Posted: April 10 2007 at 02:17
It means that they compress the dynamic, which result in a bumped low. It's not natural.


Posted By: oliverstoned
Date Posted: April 10 2007 at 02:19
Originally posted by el böthy el böthy wrote:

What about more recent albums? Albums that might not be remastered, but released in the last couple of years?


I'm not much into current prog.

The Daevid Allen's Sacred geometry are good.



Posted By: MikeEnRegalia
Date Posted: April 10 2007 at 02:46
Originally posted by oliverstoned oliverstoned wrote:

It means that they compress the dynamic, which result in a bumped low. It's not natural.


Here's an article about it: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Loudness_war - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Loudness_war

I agree that it's a bad thing, but how can compression cause a "bumped low"? I think these are two separate issues ...


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Posted By: oliverstoned
Date Posted: April 10 2007 at 03:05
Thanks for that article. Bump low is false low. It's like the frog which tries to be as big as the beef.
It's not real low, not tight, quick and deep. It dribbles and it gets the ears tired.


Posted By: NotAProghead
Date Posted: April 10 2007 at 12:33
Originally posted by oliverstoned oliverstoned wrote:

                  
BTW the whole Door's catalog is about to be re-released with many bonus, more news soon.
The Doors 6CD + 6DVD-Audio set "Perception" has been already released in 2006: http://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=14174 - http://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=14174
 
BTW don't believe Zappa88's 1-star rating, it seems he doesn't know what DVD-Audio is.
 


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Posted By: MikeEnRegalia
Date Posted: April 10 2007 at 13:26
I'd like to recommend some modern CDs too:

- Mike Keneally - Dog
- Porcupine Tree - In Absentia
- Porcupine Tree - Deadwing (also available as DVD-Audio)



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Posted By: oliverstoned
Date Posted: April 10 2007 at 14:04
Originally posted by NotAProghead NotAProghead wrote:

Originally posted by oliverstoned oliverstoned wrote:

                   BTW the whole Door's catalog is about to be re-released with many bonus, more news soon.

The Doors 6CD + 6DVD-Audio set "Perception" has been already released in 2006: http://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=14174 - http://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=14174


BTW don't believe Zappa88's 1-star rating, it seems he doesn't know what DVD-Audio is.



Just bought The soft parade, Morrison hotel and LA Woman remastered with bonus. More news soon.


Posted By: Man Erg
Date Posted: April 10 2007 at 14:10
PFM - Storia di un Minuto and Per un Amico - RCA Gold Editions

The Moody Blues - Remastered reissues.

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Posted By: oliverstoned
Date Posted: April 12 2007 at 08:49

Doors remaster 2001 Vs Rhino remaster 2007.

The 2001 remasters are better sounding. The new Rhino ones have less dynamic, have lost life. The highs goes less far and the low is bumped. But it features some good bonus (maybe already issued on boxes).

Worst, "Morisson hotel" has been re-mixed and it's very different from the original record. This set the issue of the original work's respect. But, this "Morisson hotel" Rhino remaster features some great bonus, especially "Spy in the house of love" and "Queen of the highway", both jazz versions.
But if you want a guenuine and best sounding release: turn on the 2001 Elektra remaster.




Posted By: oliverstoned
Date Posted: April 13 2007 at 05:43
The Traffic 2002 remasters are not bad.


Posted By: el böthy
Date Posted: April 15 2007 at 23:48
Does the 2004 KC remasters also includ Lark´s tongue in Aspic? I love that album, but I have a real big problem with its production and sound quality

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Posted By: oliverstoned
Date Posted: April 16 2007 at 02:45
Yes, all the albums exist in japanese remster. Lark's tongue is harsh but it's due to the music and to numeric natural's harshness in CD.


Posted By: Bj-1
Date Posted: April 20 2007 at 18:31
Sieges Even's "Art of Navigating by the Stars" has some of the finest production I have heard! Also, Fantômas' "Supended Animation" is brilliantly produced as well!

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