Zappa / Mothers of Invention
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Topic: Zappa / Mothers of Invention
Posted By: Guests
Subject: Zappa / Mothers of Invention
Date Posted: February 11 2005 at 02:45
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Question: Why did Zappa / Mothers of Invention have two sets of drummers ?  |
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Posted By: Blacksword
Date Posted: February 11 2005 at 03:02
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Because it sounds good..
You never heard Phill Collins and Chester Thompson playing together?? Or Adam and the Ants..?? ------------- Ultimately bored by endless ecstasy! |
Posted By: Richardw
Date Posted: February 11 2005 at 04:32
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2 drummers and a percussionist. It was probably because Zappa started out as a drummer himself, and he always had a real love of percussion instruments in his music. It worked well with the 1973 band with Ralph Humphrey and Chester Thompson. Zappa also had 2 bass players in 1978 which was perhaps more unusual than 2 drummers. There were never any musical boundaries for Uncle Frank. |
Posted By: Manunkind
Date Posted: February 11 2005 at 05:06
To double the rhythm density. Why else? It's a great idea, providing the drummers/percussionists are good enough not to fall over each other. John Coltrane had Elvin Jones and Rashied Ali drumming for him on "Meditations" and "Ascension", and it worked out great. Ornette Coleman also had two drummers, in the shapes of Billy Higgins and Ed Blackwell, on his "Free Jazz". And Zappa wasn't that far from jazz, either . ------------- "In war there is no time to teach or learn Zen. Carry a strong stick. Bash your attackers." - Zen Master Ikkyu Sojun |
Posted By: Dick Heath
Date Posted: February 11 2005 at 05:16
| Even the greatest toured together/played together e.g. Tony Williams/Billy Cobham |
Posted By: Manunkind
Date Posted: February 11 2005 at 05:17
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(fainted) has that been ever recorded? If so, please, please tell me under what name? ------------- "In war there is no time to teach or learn Zen. Carry a strong stick. Bash your attackers." - Zen Master Ikkyu Sojun |
Dick Heath wrote:Posted By: Syzygy
Date Posted: February 11 2005 at 08:18
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One of the highlights of post Gabriel Genesis shows was when Phil Collins got back behind the drumkit and we got a 2 drummer version of Genesis. I saw Genesis with both Bruford and Chester Thompson, and the sound of the 2 drummers going at it was awesome both times. ------------- 'Like so many of you I've got my doubts about how much to contribute to the already rich among us...' Robert Wyatt, Gloria Gloom |
Posted By: Dick Heath
Date Posted: February 12 2005 at 14:47
It has, with Brian Auger and Ronnie Montrose in the line-up - BC 'guests' for the last half of the record. I think it is called Toyko 1979, and the only place I've seen it is on Brian Auger's offical website. That particular Tony Williams Band (minus BC) can be heard on Tony William's Joy Of Flying album (remastered on CD in last 5 years or so by Sony Columbia Records). |
Posted By: Dick Heath
Date Posted: February 12 2005 at 14:49
| And of course the Allman Brothers and (probably the first line-up of) the Pink Fairies - listening to Teenage Rebel this morning, full blast, and unless Twink is double tracked, the album Never Never Land has two drummers. |
Posted By: Possessed
Date Posted: March 02 2005 at 14:44
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I agree. Seconds Out is the recorded testament! |