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Topic: extrem metal avant dark and relateds 3

Posted By: markosherrera
Subject: extrem metal avant dark and relateds 3
Date Posted: March 15 2007 at 21:53

This is my last list in this style and relateds .

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Posted By: The T
Date Posted: March 15 2007 at 23:28

where are napalm death, obituary, carcass, benediction, embalmer, celestial season, deicide, cannibal corpse, incantation, etc?? You should be ashamed!

let's go with Celtic Frost here... some prog sites even have their latest album listed as prog....I don't know about that but they're not bad..

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Posted By: markosherrera
Date Posted: March 16 2007 at 21:19

The T wrote:

where are napalm death, obituary, carcass, benediction, embalmer, celestial season, deicide, cannibal corpse, incantation, etc?? You should be ashamed!

let's go with Celtic Frost here... some prog sites even have their latest album listed as prog....I don't know about that but they're not bad..

NAPALM DEATH IS GRIND,CARCASS IS DEATH ROLL,DEICIDE ITS TOO RAW,CANNIBAL CORPSE IS GRIND obituary,benediction,,if I LISTENED THIS GROUPS i DONT REMENBER THEIRS MUSIC,and embalmer,celestyial season,and incantation I dont know nothing about this lasts groups...............the groups that you write now are excessively or impossible to listen,for me because ,i can listen some songs of some prog,symphonic,avant and melodic extreme metal bands.

Posted By: Apsalar
Date Posted: March 16 2007 at 21:29

It was a close call between 'Esoteric' and 'Blut Aus Nord' for me. 'Blut Aus Nord' finally won; much to the thanks of their deubt. 'Limbonic Art' is a contender for their first album (one of the few Symphonic black release I heartly enjoy); for me personally I think they stumble from here on in. 'Diabolical masquerade's - Death Desgin' is also another great album, which was orginally recorded as a sound track to a moive which never eventuated. A must listen project for anyone interested in Atomspheric Blacken' avant-garde.

I would assume 'Anitmatter' is 'related'? Are we talking about the sing from 'Anathema'? Very placid emotional music.

Posted By: Reverie
Date Posted: March 17 2007 at 04:23

Cannibal Corpse grind? They're just good old fashioned death metal. Carcass were grind and became more death metal.

Posted By: thellama73
Date Posted: March 17 2007 at 05:09

The T wrote:

where are napalm death, obituary, carcass, benediction, embalmer, celestial season, deicide, cannibal corpse, incantation, etc?? You should be ashamed!

And where are Emperor, Burzum, Mayhem, Dissection, Cemetary, Death, Candlemass and Bathory?

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Posted By: superprog
Date Posted: March 17 2007 at 12:54

Esoteric!! wow they were actually listed haha........quite beautiful funeral doom and dark as hell!!!

Posted By: markosherrera
Date Posted: March 17 2007 at 20:47

thellama73 wrote:

The T wrote:

where are napalm death, obituary, carcass, benediction, embalmer, celestial season, deicide, cannibal corpse, incantation, etc?? You should be ashamed!

And where are Emperor, Burzum, Mayhem, Dissection, Cemetary, Death, Candlemass and Bathory?

dEATH IS IN ONE OF THE POLLS,BECAUSE THEY ARE A GROUP WITH TECHNIC HAVE SOME SONGS MORE COMPLEX THAN THE MEDIA OF DEATH METAL BANDS ,but I dont include some of black metal like burzum,mayhem etc THEY ARE NOT PROG BLACK METAL and they have a a tragic history.

Posted By: markosherrera
Date Posted: March 17 2007 at 20:49

Reverie wrote:

Cannibal Corpse grind? They're just good old fashioned death metal. Carcass were grind and became more death metal.

yes they are grind,they like suck rotting visceres etc

Posted By: Reverie
Date Posted: March 18 2007 at 01:10

Gorish lyrics does not equal Grind. Cannibal Corpse are Death Metal. They are not, however, anything resembling progressive music, so i'm not saying they belong on the poll, just that labelling them Grind is misleading.

As for the poll... i don't really like any of the bands on this one a lot, but i'll plump for Celtic Frost.

Posted By: Barla
Date Posted: March 18 2007 at 12:27

thellama73 wrote:

The T wrote:

where are napalm death, obituary, carcass, benediction, embalmer, celestial season, deicide, cannibal corpse, incantation, etc?? You should be ashamed!

And where are Emperor, Burzum, Mayhem, Dissection, Cemetary, Death, Candlemass and Bathory?

Yeah!! And WHERE IS DARKTHRONE, one of the creators of the Black Metal genre along with Mayhem, Emperor, etc?? WHERE IS CRYPTOPSY?? WHERE IS NAGLFAR?? SEPULTURA?? VENOM?? Maybe SLAYER?? OLD MAN'S CHILD?? DIMMU BIRGIR??

BTW, what have Iced Earth in common with extreme metal music??? Confused

No offense man, but this is SOOO incomplete....

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Posted By: Barla
Date Posted: March 18 2007 at 12:29

markosherrera wrote:

thellama73 wrote:

The T wrote:

where are napalm death, obituary, carcass, benediction, embalmer, celestial season, deicide, cannibal corpse, incantation, etc?? You should be ashamed!

And where are Emperor, Burzum, Mayhem, Dissection, Cemetary, Death, Candlemass and Bathory?

dEATH IS IN ONE OF THE POLLS,BECAUSE THEY ARE A GROUP WITH TECHNIC HAVE SOME SONGS MORE COMPLEX THAN THE MEDIA OF DEATH METAL BANDS ,but I dont include some of black metal like burzum,mayhem etc THEY ARE NOT PROG BLACK METAL and they have a a tragic history.

Who said the bands on this list have to be Prog Black Metal????

WE'RE IN THE NON-PROG MUSIC LOUNGE!!!

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Posted By: Trickster F.
Date Posted: March 18 2007 at 12:30

Esoteric are bloody immense. I wouldn't call it "beautiful" or "funeral doom" though.

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Posted By: Logos
Date Posted: March 18 2007 at 12:55

Out of these, Blut Aus Nord is the best band, no question about that.

Posted By: markosherrera
Date Posted: March 18 2007 at 12:57

Trickster F. wrote:

Esoteric are bloody immense. I wouldn't call it "beautiful" or "funeral doom" though.

yeah they make a very good sad doom music,but perhaps i could make a poll with similars

Posted By: laplace
Date Posted: March 18 2007 at 12:58

Out of interest, what would you call Esoteric, if not funeral?

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Posted By: markosherrera
Date Posted: March 18 2007 at 13:00

Barla wrote:

markosherrera wrote:

thellama73 wrote:

The T wrote:

where are napalm death, obituary, carcass, benediction, embalmer, celestial season, deicide, cannibal corpse, incantation, etc?? You should be ashamed!

And where are Emperor, Burzum, Mayhem, Dissection, Cemetary, Death, Candlemass and Bathory?

dEATH IS IN ONE OF THE POLLS,BECAUSE THEY ARE A GROUP WITH TECHNIC HAVE SOME SONGS MORE COMPLEX THAN THE MEDIA OF DEATH METAL BANDS ,but I dont include some of black metal like burzum,mayhem etc THEY ARE NOT PROG BLACK METAL and they have a a tragic history.

Who said the bands on this list have to be Prog Black Metal????

WE'RE IN THE NON-PROG MUSIC LOUNGE!!!

I said....This is a non prog,but I BELIEVE THAT I MADE A LIST WITH GROUPS THAT ARE PROG for some ones and not prog for others ,they are in a edge in some cases

Posted By: Trickster F.
Date Posted: March 18 2007 at 13:00

Nothing, it's one of the bands best not put into a box.

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Posted By: markosherrera
Date Posted: March 18 2007 at 13:04

Barla wrote:

thellama73 wrote:

The T wrote:

where are napalm death, obituary, carcass, benediction, embalmer, celestial season, deicide, cannibal corpse, incantation, etc?? You should be ashamed!

And where are Emperor, Burzum, Mayhem, Dissection, Cemetary, Death, Candlemass and Bathory?

No offense man, but this is SOOO incomplete....

iF i make a poll with all the groups,the poll ought to have 100 groups,the maximun is 25.

Posted By: laplace
Date Posted: March 18 2007 at 13:07

Perhaps you're right but I do think they've got more to do with funeral doom than any other genre.

Besides, no-one sounds like Thergothon anymore lol.

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Posted By: markosherrera
Date Posted: March 18 2007 at 13:10

Barla wrote:

thellama73 wrote:

The T wrote:

where are napalm death, obituary, carcass, benediction, embalmer, celestial season, deicide, cannibal corpse, incantation, etc?? You should be ashamed!

And where are Emperor, Burzum, Mayhem, Dissection, Cemetary, Death, Candlemass and Bathory?

No offense man, but this is SOOO incomplete....

I put Dimmu In OTHER POLL, REMEMBER I divide IN 3 PARTS THE POLL,And SLAYERis for A POLL WITH NUCLEAR ASSAULT,ANTHRAX And OTHERS

Posted By: markosherrera
Date Posted: March 18 2007 at 13:13

I ced Earth have songs of melodic ,power and grunt voice,covers of hard rock and heavy metal ,they will be fired of the poll ,some options are ,emperor ,bethlehem etc

Posted By: markosherrera
Date Posted: March 19 2007 at 21:50

I change some groups without votes for others

Posted By: Melomaniac
Date Posted: March 20 2007 at 17:30

Samael here. New album due June 15th.

Also love Pestilence and Tartaros' The Red Jewel, which, despite it's horrible production, was a very interesting album.

Also like Children of Bodom, Limbonic Art and Diabolical Masquerade.

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Posted By: cookieacquired
Date Posted: March 21 2007 at 13:27

Celtic Frost for me on this list

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Posted By: markosherrera
Date Posted: June 22 2007 at 15:31

Very strange that nobody choice Diabolical Masquerade

Posted By: King of Loss
Date Posted: June 22 2007 at 15:33

From this list, Children of Bodom, but they are not even closely related with any artists on this list......

Posted By: markosherrera
Date Posted: June 22 2007 at 16:05

only the voices

Posted By: King of Loss
Date Posted: June 22 2007 at 16:06

markosherrera wrote:

only the voices

Not really. Its closer to Melodic Death metal vocals than anything close to Black metal.

Posted By: Dean
Date Posted: June 22 2007 at 16:10

Celtic Frost, one of the first and still the best

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Posted By: superprog
Date Posted: June 23 2007 at 07:39

did me eyes just fool me? Rudra? in the poll list?

thats top notch Vedic / Indian-influenced death/black metal from Singapore!!!! great stuff!!! go check em out!!!

Posted By: Apsalar
Date Posted: June 23 2007 at 08:38

superprog wrote:

did me eyes just fool me? Rudra? in the poll list? thats top notch Vedic / Indian-influenced death/black metal from Singapore!!!! great stuff!!! go check em out!!!

Are there samples anywhere, you have me interested!

Posted By: markosherrera
Date Posted: December 12 2007 at 00:54

Samael,,,,good mix of styles...........

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aMzWysnhr5c - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aMzWysnhr5c

Posted By: keiser willhelm
Date Posted: December 12 2007 at 01:40

i dont really like samael much, not heavy enough for the style, and the vocals dont work for me. Definately the top two are Celtic frost and Gojira. This is mostly black/doom and not much else but the most creative, original and best sounding bands are those two. Im more into straight up black metal, emperor, enthroned, Darkthrone, old dimmu, mayhem, and the like.

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