a way oot
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Topic: a way oot
Posted By: wallace
Subject: a way oot
Date Posted: February 07 2005 at 15:51
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T'would appear that yer Yoshiness be seen assa wet blankit by many (wiv narrow tastes) on dis forum.
('Av a butchers at th' "First Progressive Album Ever?" post.) Instaid o' flingin' turds a' each orther an' seein' wic empty barrel makit t'maist noize, Yosh offers a way oot whare we neednae doorty our hands: Ah will willingly remove meesell frae dis forum, PROVIDIT thaim tha's efter me expulsioon can git thru this varra aisy quiz: Th' themeathon be fharty (40) prog/psyche/hardrock songs that 'av tae do wiv t'soobject o' DAITH (Death). That be right aisy as ettin' a brunstane pie or feckin' th'aspidistra. (Muckle mair aisy than me Sex themeathon -which, bye th'bye, garner'd basicallery feck awl response frae yew lazy fowk.) Sae then, tha's th' deal ah cuts wiv ye awl. IN THE NEXT TWA (2) HOUR, GIE ME 40 PROG/PSYCHE/HARDROCK SONG TITLES THAT HAVE TO DO WITH THE SUBJECT OF DEATH, AND I WILL LEAVE THIS FORUM. Tae gits the ball rollin', Yosh will even gie youse awl ten exarmples -but dems dunt coount inna fhardy!: PROCOL HAREM -something following me -dead girl -whiter shade of pale J.K. & co - dead GENESIS - anyway & supernatural anaesthtist FATE -Sgt Death PINK FLOYD -free four DAVID SYLVAIN -orpheus SPIRIT OF CHRISTMAS - Lazarus CULPEPPER'S ORCHARD -Gideon NICE -Azrael GHOST -when your dead for 5 seconds Cor Blimey! 'An it cannae be aisier! Thare ye have it: Ye wants Yosh gone? Then, git yer elbucks orf t'table, put on yer tinkin' caps an' cum oop wiv fharty o' em. Lickety-split. A'richt, fire aheid then! |
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Posted By: frenchie
Date Posted: February 07 2005 at 15:52
what?   ------------- The Worthless Recluse 
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Posted By: Aaron
Date Posted: February 07 2005 at 15:55
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i am not reading anything that you posted, just wishing you death Aaron |
Posted By: Guests
Date Posted: February 07 2005 at 16:05
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Maani: is this really what you expected would be filling the pages of your otherwise good website. Personally I ignore everything the guy says - and will ignore the sarcastic reply he will most probably post to this - and I'm all for free speech - the guy can blather on 24/7 for all I care - I just think people thinking of joining the site might see these pages of illegible rubbish - and go somewhere else - robbing us and them of potentially illuminating discussion. I mean ...cant' we give him his own thread were he can ramble to himself all day - and the rest of us can avoid. mandrake (awaiting completely predictible childish repsonses) |
Posted By: wallace
Date Posted: February 07 2005 at 16:11
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The brunt of it is this - just name me 40 prog/psyche/hardrock songs which involve the theme of "death" and I will vacate the premises.You will be free of Yosh and his rambles.
Can I put it any clearer? Have I given you any impetus? G'wan, Jocks. The clock be a-tickin'. (One hour, 45 minutes left.) |
Posted By: Sweetnighter
Date Posted: February 07 2005 at 16:20
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If Canada ever had a Zeuhl band, Wallace would be the #1 man for the singer spot.
------------- I bleed coffee. When I don't drink coffee, my veins run dry, and I shrivel up and die. "Banco Del Mutuo Soccorso? Is that like the bank of Italian soccer death or something?" -my girlfriend |
Posted By: wallace
Date Posted: February 07 2005 at 16:26
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Sweetnighter, th' emoticoon doan cut it.
Give us a submission. A single track. (Like John Cleese says to Mr Creosote in the Meaning of Life: "Only one,sir. Eets whaffer-theen!" (Or summat like that) |
Posted By: Fragile
Date Posted: February 07 2005 at 16:57
What on earth is going on here?Agreed Wallace overdoes it with his perambulation into the mither tongue but he knows his prog and his knowledge seems extensive.But to wish him death is frickin ridiculous some sensibility is required.Wallace did you read my reply on the Close to the Edge thread?Did the Alex Harvey Band evolve out of Teargas? lang mae yur lum reak Only leave if you feel you want to but don't be pushed out.
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Posted By: Spartacus
Date Posted: February 07 2005 at 17:02
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Here you go Wallace. Death Walks Behind You by Atomic Rooster Wallace just use an internet translator, when I take the time to read your posts you actually have a lot to say. When no one can understand you all of your talk is meaningless. |
Posted By: Manunkind
Date Posted: February 07 2005 at 17:13
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------------- "In war there is no time to teach or learn Zen. Carry a strong stick. Bash your attackers." - Zen Master Ikkyu Sojun |
Fragile wrote:Posted By: Fragile
Date Posted: February 07 2005 at 17:15
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VDGG Necromancer off the top of my head. |
Posted By: Sweetnighter
Date Posted: February 07 2005 at 17:18
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What's your first language Wallace, french? I mean, if you're canadian...
------------- I bleed coffee. When I don't drink coffee, my veins run dry, and I shrivel up and die. "Banco Del Mutuo Soccorso? Is that like the bank of Italian soccer death or something?" -my girlfriend |
Posted By: frenchie
Date Posted: February 07 2005 at 17:22
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i would read what he puts if it was legible. ------------- The Worthless Recluse
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Posted By: Metropolis
Date Posted: February 07 2005 at 17:23
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PoS - Rope ends, there ya go, thats about death
------------- We Lost the Skyline............ 
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Posted By: wallace
Date Posted: February 07 2005 at 17:25
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Aye, Fragile, Sensational Alex Harvey Band did evolve oota TearGas. ('An Yer Yoshiness may add, Vambo DOES rule.) Didja ken tha' SAHB's baist lp "Impossible Dream" ('74,Vertigo) wert releaser'd in Canada ainly wiv completely diffrunt -way bettar - comic art fold out cover?
Noo -ah'll goo checkit yer "Close ter Edge" post now, Fragile. ..... Guid ain wiv "Daith Walks Ahint Ye"! Weel dane, spartacus. Atomic Rooster ha' mair den ain song onna soobject o' daith. Afterall, Vincent Crane kenn'd alot aybit t'soobject, ah'll wager. |
Posted By: Manunkind
Date Posted: February 07 2005 at 17:28
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VdGG - Killer Dream Theater - The Killing Hand, Fatal Tragedy Devil Doll - The Girl Who Was... Death
------------- "In war there is no time to teach or learn Zen. Carry a strong stick. Bash your attackers." - Zen Master Ikkyu Sojun |
Posted By: wallace
Date Posted: February 07 2005 at 17:29
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Wha's PoS standit fer?
Sorry tae be ignarunt onna PoS front. Ye 'arfta elaboorates befaw ah kin accepts yer bonnie submissioon. .......... "Necromancer"! Perfik! Tha' ain slipp'd me by. |
Posted By: wallace
Date Posted: February 07 2005 at 17:31
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Doctor Doctor.
Aye, he th'Mon! (Big fan o' Paddy McGoohan as weel -sae ah luvs him.) |
Posted By: Metropolis
Date Posted: February 07 2005 at 17:32
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PoS = Pain of Salvation
------------- We Lost the Skyline............
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Posted By: Sweetnighter
Date Posted: February 07 2005 at 17:35
Genius ------------- I bleed coffee. When I don't drink coffee, my veins run dry, and I shrivel up and die. "Banco Del Mutuo Soccorso? Is that like the bank of Italian soccer death or something?" -my girlfriend |
Posted By: Manunkind
Date Posted: February 07 2005 at 17:37
Just look through the archives... Aragon - Crucifixion ------------- "In war there is no time to teach or learn Zen. Carry a strong stick. Bash your attackers." - Zen Master Ikkyu Sojun |
Posted By: Garion81
Date Posted: February 07 2005 at 17:38
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Get rid of Yosh/Wallace bring back Peter!
The Lamplight Symphony by Kansas
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"What are you going to do when that damn thing rusts?" |
Posted By: Fragile
Date Posted: February 07 2005 at 17:38
| Can I get away with Bird of Prey by the brilliant Uriah Heep |
Posted By: Metropolis
Date Posted: February 07 2005 at 17:39
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Ark - Noose ------------- We Lost the Skyline............
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Posted By: Cinema
Date Posted: February 07 2005 at 17:39
Well, I'm not going so far as to wish you death ... though I do wish you'd either learn how to write, or quit writing in that quirky jargon-laced jibber-jabber. That said, how about Marillion's Brave. It's all about a girl contemplating suicide. |
Posted By: Garion81
Date Posted: February 07 2005 at 17:41
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And When I die- BS&T
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"What are you going to do when that damn thing rusts?" |
Posted By: Manunkind
Date Posted: February 07 2005 at 17:42
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Marillion - Out of This World, Ocean Cloud The Mars Volta - Take the Veil Cerpin Taxt Titles not really about death, but songs relating the deaths of real people... ------------- "In war there is no time to teach or learn Zen. Carry a strong stick. Bash your attackers." - Zen Master Ikkyu Sojun |
Posted By: Metropolis
Date Posted: February 07 2005 at 17:43
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Dream Theater - A Change of Seasons tis about the death of Mike's mother
------------- We Lost the Skyline............
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Posted By: Manunkind
Date Posted: February 07 2005 at 17:47
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And Camel's "Stationary Traveller" is about the death of Andy Latimer's father ------------- "In war there is no time to teach or learn Zen. Carry a strong stick. Bash your attackers." - Zen Master Ikkyu Sojun |
Posted By: Manunkind
Date Posted: February 07 2005 at 17:50
Robert Wyatt's "Forest" is about a concentration camp in the Czech Republic where thousands of Gypsies were murdered and where now there is a  pig farm, not even a memorial tablet  ------------- "In war there is no time to teach or learn Zen. Carry a strong stick. Bash your attackers." - Zen Master Ikkyu Sojun |
Posted By: Fragile
Date Posted: February 07 2005 at 17:51
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Here's another Wallace,Aphrodites Child,The four Horsemen, one being Death itself. Who said this,'You bled with Wallace,now bleed with me' |
Posted By: Manunkind
Date Posted: February 07 2005 at 17:53
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Pineapple Thief - "Variations on a Dream" - on the death of Bruce Soord's close friend ------------- "In war there is no time to teach or learn Zen. Carry a strong stick. Bash your attackers." - Zen Master Ikkyu Sojun |
Posted By: Fragile
Date Posted: February 07 2005 at 17:53
| 'Heroes never die' by the highly talented Mostly Autumn |
Posted By: Metropolis
Date Posted: February 07 2005 at 17:54
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Opeth - The Moor
------------- We Lost the Skyline............
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Posted By: wallace
Date Posted: February 07 2005 at 17:55
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Thare ye go. See, whan gien th'impetus ye lot CAN perf'rm.
Wha's generool coonsensus onna Pain o' Salvatioon? Ah ha' a bone tae pick thare -noo prog an' noo heavy rock. (Juist straight sh*te.) ....... Noo, Jimmy. Ah cannae accept GENESIS "Unquiet Slumbers For The Sleepers In That Quiet Earth". Tha' be a wardless instrumpetmental. An' Jimmy #2, ah cannae accept GRYPHON "Unquiet Grave" since fairst lp be purty weel ,folk. But, Jimmy #3, ah will tak yer suggestioon o' HORSLIPS "Green Gravel". (Aye, it be an erlay ain, but mebbe middlin' prog.) |
Posted By: Metropolis
Date Posted: February 07 2005 at 17:55
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Opeth - Serenity Painted Death
------------- We Lost the Skyline............
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Posted By: Manunkind
Date Posted: February 07 2005 at 18:01
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Gordian Knot - Komm Susser Tod, Komm sel'ge (Come Sweet Death, Come) ------------- "In war there is no time to teach or learn Zen. Carry a strong stick. Bash your attackers." - Zen Master Ikkyu Sojun |
Posted By: Reed Lover
Date Posted: February 07 2005 at 18:05
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1. Death truck by The nearlymen 5. Souls on fire-Aitken Beamer
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Posted By: Manunkind
Date Posted: February 07 2005 at 18:07
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Anathema - One Last Goodbye (the whole album revolves around the death of the Kavanaghs' mother) Opeth - My Arms, Your Hearse ------------- "In war there is no time to teach or learn Zen. Carry a strong stick. Bash your attackers." - Zen Master Ikkyu Sojun |
Posted By: Manunkind
Date Posted: February 07 2005 at 18:10
Now that's genius (or a good database ------------- "In war there is no time to teach or learn Zen. Carry a strong stick. Bash your attackers." - Zen Master Ikkyu Sojun |
Posted By: Reed Lover
Date Posted: February 07 2005 at 18:25
Bye Wally! -------------
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Posted By: Syzygy
Date Posted: February 07 2005 at 18:28
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Too late after reed's KO punch, but what about To Be Over by Yes? I've alway's thought it's Jon Anderson's take on death and possible afterlife. ------------- 'Like so many of you I've got my doubts about how much to contribute to the already rich among us...' Robert Wyatt, Gloria Gloom |
Posted By: Syzygy
Date Posted: February 07 2005 at 18:31
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Incidentally Wallace or Yosh or whoever you are, you'd be almost tolerable if you'd just ditch the sub Irvine Welsh prose style. Or possibly not. Give it a go. ------------- 'Like so many of you I've got my doubts about how much to contribute to the already rich among us...' Robert Wyatt, Gloria Gloom |
Posted By: wallace
Date Posted: February 07 2005 at 18:37
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Ye'll ha' tae 'elp me wiv Reed Luver's ains. Ah ainly kens 4 bands frae tha' list o' chaff. Cannae say if it be truely prog o' nae.
'Fraid ah cannae acceptit URIAH HEEP "Bird of Prey", Fragile. Ah 'eard men tell it isna abyit daith. Ye shulda pick'd "Come Away Belinda" frae t' same lp. (Tha' be maist cartinly aybit daith - an' inna maist movin' way, too.) |
Posted By: Reed Lover
Date Posted: February 07 2005 at 18:38
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"go now................." -------------
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Posted By: wallace
Date Posted: February 07 2005 at 19:02
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U2. BOC,Thin Lizzy,Feild of Nephilium, Rush -nane o' these be prog.
'An ah 'av a feelin' muckle o' the rest on yer list be metal mundungus tha' doan count fer nought. ......... Anyway, sitcheratioon be moot, since Jimmy #4 juist came thru wiv all o' these: VICTOR PERAINO'S KINGDOM COME -garden of death IVORY -sad cyprus MEDIUM -my lady lies forever BLACK SABBBATH -electric funeral (Wha's "Planet Caravan" aboot? Daith? Its errie as all get.Mair uncanny den Richard Simmons.) PETER HAMMILL -Ophelia KING CRIMSON - epitath SPIRIT -mechanical world OPEN ROAD -glimmering sounds BECKETT - life's shadow OSSANNA -everybody gonna die MISUNDERSTOOD - I unseen HAYMARKET SQUARE - funeral KAREL FIALKA -Samarra (Alser been narrat'd by Boris Karloff. "Yer a clagnut, Mr Grinch!") FEVER TREE -death is the dancer WAKEMAN -the prisoner MIRAGE -poor Mrs Busby PROCOL HAREM -about to die -the dead man's dream (baith frae the darkest lp EVAR - "Home") DEAD PARROT'S SOCIETY -Highgate Cemetary PAUL ROLAND -gathering man -requiem WILL O WISP -Sleep MORNING DEW -death is a dreamer OVERHEAD -zumantheum CHAKRA -finally SOUND FACTORY -withering tree LINDSAY COOPER -cholera RED MASQUE -red death ULTIMATE SPINACH - hip death godess CHAD & JEREMY -rest in pieces CIRKUS - brother of love BLOOMSBURY PEOPLE -Pioneer saint of Death EBBLING/HUGHES - heaven's gate DICE -death's requiem STANDARTE -in my time of dying BACHDENKEL -long time NASH THE SLASH - Vincent's crows LEVIATHAN -angel of death BARKLAY JAMES HARVEST -song for dying STRAWBS -30 days DRAGON -darkness NICOLAS GREENWOOD -realization of death WATERLOO -death ENID -salome EVOLUTION -Dr Vasquez PARSIVAL -scarlet horses ....... So then, tha' tears it. Its a fair cop, guv'nor. Ah'm true tae me ward sae ah'll sling me hook an' be awa'. But, fairst ah'll leavit yer all wiv a wee story. Back inna mo. (Oh aye! - fer thaim tha' wunnerit, a "kittiehoosey" be a broffel.) |
Posted By: Garion81
Date Posted: February 07 2005 at 19:12
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IN THE NEXT TWA (2) HOUR, GIE ME 40 PROG/PSYCHE/HARDROCK SONG TITLES THAT HAVE TO DO WITH THE SUBJECT OF DEATH, AND I WILL LEAVE THIS FORUM.
Maybe not but they fit in the original criteria you put down.
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"What are you going to do when that damn thing rusts?" |
Posted By: Fragile
Date Posted: February 07 2005 at 19:35
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Wallace you enjoy being on here,you obviously enjoy prog/rock music just change your broad use of the auld Scots language a little I'm pretty sure you will be understood.And Reed what are you all about telling the guy to go I thought you would have been above such nonesense.I agree with Wallace in that the list you provided I've hardly heard of any of these and I'd bet London to an orange that you haven't either.Wallace don't know how I forgot Come away Belinda from the Heep's first eponymous lp but tnx for pointing it out.One last point if you are going I'll remember you as the man, who ate the boiled ham raw.
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Posted By: wallace
Date Posted: February 07 2005 at 19:45
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Okay -had tae go wipe a tear.
..... Sae then, here be me partin' wards. Fairst an oft-quot'd, shart lesson tae th'wise. A tale, me Jocks, consarnin' preecious commoditays: experience an' Vision: An awld bull an his young'un cum aroun' 'eur corner an' a vista opens up afowa their een (eyes): Th' pasture aheid rises onna steep slope tae meet wiv 'eur plateau up on 'igh. Onna plateau be twintie coos (cows). Th'yoong bull gits awl exciter'd an' -joompin' up an'doon - says tae hissen faither: "Da, thaim's bonny, strappin' coos up thare. Lets ye an' ah rin (run) up th'slope an' each buck a body (feck one) ay thaim!" Faither bull he luks a' son inna manner registerin' disappointerment. Patiently he says : "Nae son, this is t'way its gonnae be: We ur gonnae DAUNDER (stroll) up slope, an' den feck 'em AWL!" ....... Yer gits th' meanin' - brush aside yer blinkers. ...... A ward tae th' handfule here -yew kens who ye are - who acturally ken summat about th' music tha' REELY matters: If ye spend a year wi' cripples, ye jist may limp at th'end ay it. Those sincerely wishin' tae larn mair - summat orther than wha's been funnell'd doon yer Gregory (craw) by th'puppetmaster "Suits" wic jist pedal manipoolatioon,roll oot t'armys o' clones, an'sell wha's only leftover : a stolen beat an' feckin' Image (tae legions o' fad follawers pump'd oop tae jump ship atta next port o' "cool"); fer thaim sincerely desireous tae learn mair, ah says: Git yer arse awa' tae GALACTIC ZOO @ Yahoo Groups. (No newbies PLEASE!) Ye'll learn many a 70's band o' merit which nivvar made it ter cd. Ye'll mebbe learn how tae SEEK oot warthy music fer yersell. Believes me, Yosh leads ye right proper onna straucht smaa gait. Th' rest o' ye -bide haur. Dis "crew" desarves yer "talents". ..... Weel, tha's awl as may be. Tyme cum tae part. Ah'm gonna tak Wallace's cue. Too many babes inna wood hereaybits. A lang, purposeful life tae ye awl! Nae Havers Nou!! His Imperial Yoshiness has left the room. Sic Transit Gloria Mundi. (You can all throw your flowerpetals in abject grief ...now.) |
Posted By: aqualung28
Date Posted: February 07 2005 at 20:00
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I've seen you speak in a way people can understand you, why don't you do that all of the time? If you couldn't help it, I'd understand, but it's pretty obvious you can help it. ------------- "O' lady look up in time o' lady look out of love 'n you should have us all O' you should have us fall" "Bill's Corpse" By Captain Beefheart |
Posted By: Fragile
Date Posted: February 07 2005 at 20:04
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Aqualung my friend,this guy knows his stuff and can contribute to this forum.Why certain people decided to be rude and nasty towards him is beyond me.
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Posted By: aqualung28
Date Posted: February 07 2005 at 20:17
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I'd just like to be able to understand him, I don't dislike him, I have no reason to dislike him,but I can't have any feelings towards him until I can understand him. I don't care if he stays or not, but I'd like it if he'd stay. ------------- "O' lady look up in time o' lady look out of love 'n you should have us all O' you should have us fall" "Bill's Corpse" By Captain Beefheart |
Posted By: greenback
Date Posted: February 07 2005 at 21:24
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Hey, Wally!
I'm sure you can't decode this one: Rutger Watt-Heures - I'm used to death!
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Posted By: K00l Prog Guruz
Date Posted: February 07 2005 at 23:00
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Lol, cant we al jest get alone? ------------- "The world is in your hands, now use it." Good'ol Phil |
Posted By: aqualung28
Date Posted: February 07 2005 at 23:39
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^be quiet, you don't exist ------------- "O' lady look up in time o' lady look out of love 'n you should have us all O' you should have us fall" "Bill's Corpse" By Captain Beefheart |
Posted By: Ivan_Melgar_M
Date Posted: February 08 2005 at 01:06
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I agree with Reed and Aqualung, I have nothing against Wallace, I believe the guy knows a lot about prog', but he doesn't care a sh*t if we can learn something from his knowledge. I believe it's unfair that some people from non English speaking countries like Cesar Inca, Mirco or even myself make the effort to write the best that we can in a foreign language, try to think in English when we automatically think in Spanish and sometimes pass our posts by Word's Thesaurus for respect to the other members. And by the other side a guy who obviously is totally fluent in English doesn't cares if some of us don't have the chance to understand a fuc**ng word of what he writes. Why should we care if Wallace knows a lot of Prog' if he obviously doesn't want to share it with us or even worst he doesn't care if we understand a word because he's very busy trying to be funny? Iván |
Posted By: Spartacus
Date Posted: February 08 2005 at 01:43
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To see the evolution of wallace, go back and search his early posts and you will find 100% English. Make what you want out of that. http://www.progarchives.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=3035&KW=wallace - http://www.progarchives.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=3035&a mp;KW=wallace http://www.progarchives.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=3109&KW=wallace - http://www.progarchives.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=3109&a mp;KW=wallace |
Posted By: Velvetclown
Date Posted: February 08 2005 at 01:50
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A Scottish fitba fan told his mate, "My dug watches all the games. When my team wins it jumps up and doon and claps its wee paws. When we lose it somersaults." "Yer Kiddin me right? How many somersaults?" asked his impressed friend. The Fitba fan replied, "depends how often I kick it..." ------------- Billy Connolly Dream Theater Terry Gilliam Hagen Quartet Jethro Tull Mike Keneally |
Posted By: Fragile
Date Posted: February 08 2005 at 04:18
| Enter the Velvet Clown with a little Scottish anecdote.Ivan for you and Cesar there is a reason to be perhaps pissed off at Wallace but not the others,if he is indeed a Scot ,he chose to communicate in a language that even the Scots on the forum had slight problems in the translation.But to reiterate, his words harmed no one and once carefully looked through there is indeed alot of good stuff there.One more for the road Wallace,Queen 'Death on two legs' |
Posted By: tuxon
Date Posted: February 08 2005 at 04:24
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And now you can kiss....... ------------- I'm always almost unlucky _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ Id5ZcnjXSZaSMFMC Id5LM2q2jfqz3YxT |
Posted By: Fragile
Date Posted: February 08 2005 at 04:27
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............... My ass goodbye |
Posted By: arcer
Date Posted: February 08 2005 at 06:29
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A final word on wallace and his pecular dialectic (of both prog and diction) A surfeit of knowledge is only useful if one has the good grace to impart that knowledge with goodwill, understanding and the will to inform and enlighten. Using that knowledge as a stick to beat others with, or as some kind of pointed weapon of oneupmanship is 1. rude and 2. churlish. Wallace's posts on the forum have by and large been a better educated version of the some of the reviews other have complained about so vociferously, coming straight from the school of 'your band is sh*te. Why? because I don't like them.' Only in Wallace's case the put downs were also wrapped in a self-satisfied superiority complex - 'your band's sh*te. Why? Because I don't like them and I'm right because I know a lot.' There are many, many musically well -informed members of the forum who regularly post and offer insight, advice and have a great store of knowledge to draw from - Dick Heath being one but there are others who have given me an education in some of the more obscure corners of prog. Most of these members impart their knowledge in a friendly, clear, helpful manner. Wallace by contrast chose to set himself up as above all that and simply visited as the great arbiter of taste and one with a particularly obtuse and wayward grasp of Scottish slang. He might know a lot but if you alienate those who might be seeking some knowledge then all the wise words in the world may as well be screaming in a vaccuum. He should come back when he's learned some humility and gained a sense of humour - and a grasp of written English |
Posted By: Guests
Date Posted: February 08 2005 at 06:32
| arcer - that is the most articulate riposte I have ever read on this site. here here!! |
Posted By: Syzygy
Date Posted: February 08 2005 at 06:42
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The really objectionable thing about Wallace's sub Irvine Welsh routine, aside from the bizarre mix of dialects and shaky grasp of phonetics, was his failure to grasp that the contributors to this board are international and several of our most prolific posters and reviewers do not have English as a first language. Wallace's posts were heavy going for us native speakers, and from the responses he got I'd guess they were incomprehensible to everyone else. This was pointed out to him by some of the individuals concerned, but he chose to ignore them. If he'd simply been posting stupid jokes on the Mariah Carey thread, fair enough; humour is notoriously difficult to translate. Choosing to post in this deliberately obscure manner in the main discussions was both arrogant and ignorant. ------------- 'Like so many of you I've got my doubts about how much to contribute to the already rich among us...' Robert Wyatt, Gloria Gloom |
Posted By: Manunkind
Date Posted: February 08 2005 at 06:51
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Does he really know his stuff? I know that I applauded his knowledge a page or two ago, and I haven't read all of his posts, but since then I've had my doubts. Throwing around a few obscure names and titles doesn't make you an expert on anything. I can name five great Polish hard/prog - bands of the 70s and 80s that aren't in the archives now (Czeslaw Niemen, Dzamble, Breakout, early Budka Suflera, Exodus) and can recall more if I have the time, but does that make me and expert on them? No way, I've listened to some of their music, but I can't say I know the stuff. I can list you the names of nearly all Egyptian pharaohs. Does that make me an Egyptologyst? No, I've simply got good books around here and can find a reference within ten minutes. When I suggested a Devil Doll album as a candidate for his list, he referred to the spiritus movens of that great band as "Doctor Doctor" Besides, contrary to the widespread belief, "obscure" does not have to equal "great". It's not like every band that failed to record an album is THE HOLY GRAIL THAT WILL BRING THE PROG BACK TO PROG. Many of them are simply not worth listening to. To end this confusing, overlong (prog But what do I know? I'm just a hopelessly lost newbie ------------- "In war there is no time to teach or learn Zen. Carry a strong stick. Bash your attackers." - Zen Master Ikkyu Sojun |
Posted By: Manunkind
Date Posted: February 08 2005 at 06:54
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Arcer, Mandrake, Syzygy - I missed your posts while writing my behemoth. All of you, well spoken. ------------- "In war there is no time to teach or learn Zen. Carry a strong stick. Bash your attackers." - Zen Master Ikkyu Sojun |
Posted By: Velvetclown
Date Posted: February 08 2005 at 06:58
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A Scotsman is working at a sewerage.
It's a warm day, so he takes off his jacket and drapes it over a handrail - where it slips
off into a vast tank of poo! He's just about to dive in when his mate shouts "It's nae guid tae do that, the jacket's ruined" He replies "Aye, ah ken, but ma sandwiches are in the pocket" ------------- Billy Connolly Dream Theater Terry Gilliam Hagen Quartet Jethro Tull Mike Keneally |
Posted By: Syzygy
Date Posted: February 08 2005 at 07:02
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------------- 'Like so many of you I've got my doubts about how much to contribute to the already rich among us...' Robert Wyatt, Gloria Gloom |
Posted By: Manunkind
Date Posted: February 08 2005 at 07:03
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------------- "In war there is no time to teach or learn Zen. Carry a strong stick. Bash your attackers." - Zen Master Ikkyu Sojun |
Posted By: Jim Garten
Date Posted: February 08 2005 at 08:03
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After all that - still nobody mentioned Porcupine Tree's 'Sleep Of No Dreaming' ------------- 
Jon Lord 1941 - 2012 |
Posted By: Reed Lover
Date Posted: February 08 2005 at 08:11
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He has warped your tiny, fragile mind ! He offered to go if we could name 40 prog/metal/psyche songs about death.No one else suggested this (well actually that's not strictly true ie "a lie" -------------
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) He didnt know when to give up with the silly accent-it was funny for about 4.3 seconds or the time it takes to write "f**k off dickhead!Posted By: Fragile
Date Posted: February 08 2005 at 15:29
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Reed you can be downright hurtful |
nothing tiny or fragile about my mind.You all have differing opinions on this and I can both see and understand your reasons for your annoyance.Posted By: Reed Lover
Date Posted: February 08 2005 at 15:41
All that suggests to me is that you might be the man behind Wallace! You do your countrymen a disservice with your hurt! Its a quote from South Park The Movie BTW -------------
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Posted By: Velvetclown
Date Posted: February 08 2005 at 15:53
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Fraggle : Go boil yer head
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Posted By: Reed Lover
Date Posted: February 08 2005 at 16:03
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Velvet speaks !!!!! -------------
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Posted By: Fragile
Date Posted: February 08 2005 at 18:13
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Velvy away an get raffled
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Posted By: Fragile
Date Posted: February 08 2005 at 18:57
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And you Reedy, everyone south of Aberfoyle are Sassenachs(Southern Scots and East coast tergiversators as well) who all joined in with you southerners to try and take our lands.Me, Wallace never, more like Robert the Bruce You bled for Wallace,now bleed for me. The Bruce. |
Posted By: Metropolis
Date Posted: February 09 2005 at 05:49
------------- We Lost the Skyline............
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Posted By: ShrinkingViolet
Date Posted: February 09 2005 at 05:54
I do hope Wallace returns |
Posted By: Reed Lover
Date Posted: February 09 2005 at 11:03
My grandfather was Scottish.Glasgow born and bred. Wallace is about as Scottish as Jack Daniels..............I cant believe you cant see this. -------------
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Posted By: Reed Lover
Date Posted: February 09 2005 at 11:06
Only 10 are real songs anyway.Of the other 30 one group exists (Fields of Nephilin) all the rest are as bogus as Wallace's Scottish twang!!! -------------
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Posted By: Spartacus
Date Posted: February 09 2005 at 14:15
Whatever it takes to get the job done right
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Posted By: Fragile
Date Posted: February 09 2005 at 14:32
ok Don dulluego you may be right on the Wallace thing but who the heck ever claimed that sweet tasting bourbon junk for Scotland, now Courvoisier,there's a good auld scots drink.
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