singers with bad voice but you like
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Topic: singers with bad voice but you like
Posted By: markosherrera
Subject: singers with bad voice but you like
Date Posted: February 16 2007 at 19:44
there are singers in many styles that dont have a special great voice or technic,but you can feel what they sings and you like,please choice.and your opinion
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Posted By: Witchwoodhermit
Date Posted: February 16 2007 at 20:10
Ol' Bobby Dylan's voice has always agreed with me. I love his music.
Neil Young pulls in second place.
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Posted By: video vertigo
Date Posted: February 16 2007 at 20:58
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Steve Hogarth has one of the best voices in music, just because you may like marillion better with fish Hogarth is still good vocally.
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Posted By: Angeldust
Date Posted: February 16 2007 at 21:01
HOW ON EARTH DID YOU PUT HOGARTH ON THAT LIST??????????????????????????????????????
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Posted By: Mascodagama
Date Posted: February 16 2007 at 21:01
Mark E. Smith. If 'singer' is the correct term.
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Posted By: Freak
Date Posted: February 16 2007 at 22:03
Steve Hogarth?! You kiddin' me?! The man is brilliant! He's excellent... I mean, I mean, b-b-but... *head explodes*
Anyway... I had to vote for Neil (I don't think his voice is bad, but I'm in the minority). He's my favorite artist - just look at my signature! His voice is frail at times, raging at other, and always moving. I have a live bootleg with "Nowadays Clancy Can't Even Sing" on it that is just earth-moving.
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Posted By: The T
Date Posted: February 16 2007 at 23:47
Steve Howe SINGS????
Also....
Hogarth on the list????
Ray Alder is missing from this list.
Many singers have not a great voice (steven wilson, neal morse) but their voice fits the music perfectly.
Tiamat's Edlund has a so-so voice but it narcotizes(?) me.... I like it.
Ringo was atrocious.
Knopfler was atrocious.
Clapton wasn't that bad.
but, again...
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Posted By: video vertigo
Date Posted: February 16 2007 at 23:50
I nominate this thread for worst ever.
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Posted By: Avantgardehead
Date Posted: February 17 2007 at 00:49
I'm going to say Bjork because from a technical standpoint her voice is horrible. But it works so well with her music....
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Posted By: Raff
Date Posted: February 17 2007 at 00:57
I voted for 'other' - namely, Roger Waters. Not a typically good voice by any means, but extremely expressive (unlike the highly praised David Gilmour).
And, btw, what's Phil Lynott doing in that list?
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Posted By: andu
Date Posted: February 17 2007 at 09:40
i always thought gilmour and waters had the "strong" voices of floyd and wright was the "back-up" voice - because his voice (which i love most, actually) had the least wide spectrum (or what's the technical word).
of the list - bob dylan, there's not much of a competition.
also hendrix had a limited voice and was very shy in using it at the beginning - but what a great singing he managed!
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Posted By: Philéas
Date Posted: February 17 2007 at 09:45
I found Lynott's voice a little strange at first, but I quickly learned to love it. Such a shame the man died.
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Posted By: Snow Dog
Date Posted: February 17 2007 at 10:18
At Mr T
Steve Howe definitely sings, but I like his voice, it isnt bad at all. Another person not belonging here is Brian May, who has a great voice.
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Posted By: Chus
Date Posted: February 17 2007 at 11:49
Snow Dog wrote:
At Mr T
Steve Howe definitely sings, but I like his voice, it isnt bad at all. Another person not belonging here is Brian May, who has a great voice. |
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Posted By: stonebeard
Date Posted: February 17 2007 at 11:54
video vertigo wrote:
I nominate this thread for worst ever. |
No, that would be this thread:
http://www.progarchives.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=10415&KW=yeah - http://www.progarchives.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=10415&KW=yeah
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Posted By: Snow Dog
Date Posted: February 17 2007 at 12:00
stonebeard wrote:
video vertigo wrote:
I nominate this thread for worst ever. |
No, that would be this thread:
http://www.progarchives.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=10415&KW=yeah - http://www.progarchives.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=10415&KW=yeah
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No, thats the best thread ever!
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Posted By: E-Dub
Date Posted: February 17 2007 at 12:06
I can think of somebody (H) who doesn't (H) belong (H) on this (H) list.
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Posted By: Melomaniac
Date Posted: February 17 2007 at 12:13
At first I didn't like Latimer's voice that much, but now I think his voice is the best for Camel, even counting Sinclair and what's his name from Stationary Traveler.
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Posted By: laplace
Date Posted: February 17 2007 at 12:17
deny it all you want, everyone on the list is a terrible singer. ;)
also I don't think Bjork's a bad singer at all given her range and depth. It might be an intentionally quirky voice but I don't think that makes it technically bad. just sexy
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Posted By: The T
Date Posted: February 17 2007 at 13:10
Chus wrote:
Snow Dog wrote:
At Mr T
Steve Howe definitely sings, but I like his voice, it isnt bad at all. Another person not belonging here is Brian May, who has a great voice. |
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OK, now I'll make it official....here's my photograph....
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Posted By: Snow Dog
Date Posted: February 17 2007 at 13:35
The T wrote:
Chus wrote:
Snow Dog wrote:
At Mr T
Steve Howe definitely sings, but I like his voice, it isnt bad at all. Another person not belonging here is Brian May, who has a great voice. |
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OK, now I'll make it official....here's my photograph....
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Shut up fool!
I ain't getin' on no goddamn plane!
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Posted By: Chus
Date Posted: February 17 2007 at 13:37
^^^it's da rule, fool!!!
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Posted By: BaldJean
Date Posted: February 17 2007 at 14:14
Angeldust wrote:
HOW ON EARTH DID YOU PUT HOGARTH ON THAT LIST??????????????????????????????????????
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Hogarth very much belongs there, in my opinion. one of the most expressionless voices there are. he would sing about a brutal murder the same way he would sing a love song . I don't like him at all. a singer with a from a technical point of view really bad, but highly interesting and unmistakable voice I really like is Chris Karrer of Amon Düül 2
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Posted By: The T
Date Posted: February 17 2007 at 14:21
Posted By: micky
Date Posted: February 17 2007 at 14:21
Willie Nelson?... why you....
She's a railway lady.. .just a little bit shady.. spending her days on
the train... once a semi-good looker but the fast rails they took her..
now she's trying..just trying... to get home again.
hahah... Willie Nelson?.. how dare you...
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Posted By: Forgotten Son
Date Posted: February 17 2007 at 15:42
Other. Nick Barrett. Steve Hogarth certainly doesn't belong here.
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Posted By: Dick Heath
Date Posted: February 17 2007 at 15:47
Has Tony Riviere been at this poll - where's Geddy Lee? Other acquired taste "singing" voices:
Tom Waits Annette Peacock Leonard Cohen Tiny Tim William Shatner
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Posted By: markosherrera
Date Posted: February 17 2007 at 15:49
video vertigo wrote:
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Steve Hogarth has one of the best voices in music, just because you may like marillion better with fish Hogarth is still good vocally.
| Hogarth could be Ok in a very soft songs ,when Fish go to other way and enter HOGARTH I FEEL A BIG DECEPTION,Hogarth dont have the voice and feeling of FISH ,There are hundreds of singers in prog and not prog music better than Hogarth,..but Hogarth is an excellent composer,teclist and make songs of grand beauty,but I am objetive he have a limited voice,that is going better in each new album ,but never he can be considered at the level of the greatest singers.
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Posted By: Cygnus X-2
Date Posted: February 17 2007 at 15:50
Dick Heath wrote:
Annette Peacock
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Oh God... she nearly ruined Feels Good to Me... I would have voted for her in a second.
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Posted By: markosherrera
Date Posted: February 17 2007 at 15:51
micky wrote:
Willie Nelson?... why you....
She's a railway lady.. .just a little bit shady.. spending her days on the train... once a semi-good looker but the fast rails they took her.. now she's trying..just trying... to get home again.
hahah... Willie Nelson?.. how dare you...
| Actually Willie Nelson dont sing ,he seems that cry the songs
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Posted By: progismylife
Date Posted: February 17 2007 at 15:52
Dick Heath wrote:
Has Tony Riviere been at this poll - where's Geddy Lee? Other acquired taste "singing" voices:
Tom Waits Annette Peacock Leonard Cohen Tiny Tim William Shatner
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Geddy Lee isn't on this poll because (obviously) he is a great singer whom all should bow down before and listen to Rush constantly!
At least thats what I do.
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Posted By: MadcapLaughs84
Date Posted: February 17 2007 at 15:53
Bob Dylan
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Posted By: BaldJean
Date Posted: February 17 2007 at 15:55
Annette Peacock is a great singer, in my honest opinion
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Posted By: Dick Heath
Date Posted: February 17 2007 at 15:56
Cygnus X-2 wrote:
Dick Heath wrote:
Annette Peacock
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Oh God... she nearly ruined Feels Good to Me... I would have voted for her in a second.
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Oddly enough I really like her half-an-octave range (or less), husky voice on Feels Good To Me, but thinks she stinks on the Bruford Rock Goes To College DVD doing the same songs.
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Posted By: markosherrera
Date Posted: February 17 2007 at 15:58
Snow Dog wrote:
At Mr T
Steve Howe definitely sings, but I like his voice, it isnt bad at all. Another person not belonging here is Brian May, who has a great voice. | I have the solist album of Steve Howe,that could be better if he use a real singer,and Brian May is good in the chorus of Queen BUT NOT great like a solist,,,and he call Paul Rodgers for sing in Queen .
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Posted By: Dick Heath
Date Posted: February 17 2007 at 16:03
progismylife wrote:
Geddy Lee isn't on this poll because (obviously) he is a great singer whom all should bow down before and listen to Rush constantly!
At least thats what I do.
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What was that about 'art in the eye of the beholder'......
I sometimes wonder because of my eventual acceptance of Mr Lee's er em voice, whether with familiarity my brain was turning off the pain receptors to avoid further harm......
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Posted By: markosherrera
Date Posted: February 17 2007 at 16:03
Ghost Rider wrote:
I voted for 'other' - namely, Roger Waters. Not a typically good voice by any means, but extremely expressive (unlike the highly praised David Gilmour).
And, btw, what's Phil Lynott doing in that list?
| David Gilmour .I like how he sings,imagine if I reemplace the voice of Gilmour with the voice of Simmons ,,,What is the result?......please say something
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Posted By: markosherrera
Date Posted: February 17 2007 at 16:05
video vertigo wrote:
I nominate this thread for worst ever. | Because I made a list with the worst voices?
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Posted By: Freak
Date Posted: February 17 2007 at 16:13
Because Hogarth is in the list! Anyway...
If you really think he can't sing with emotion, try these songs:
"Living With The Big Lie"
"Neverland"
"This Strange Engine"
"The Party"
"Three Minute Boy"
... Hell, listen to any of his songs!
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Posted By: Ed_The_Dead
Date Posted: February 17 2007 at 16:57
LOL! H on the list? You mad?! He could actualy sing circles around Fish!
That dude from Dire Straits
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Posted By: BaldJean
Date Posted: February 17 2007 at 17:08
Hogarth definitely is a love or hate man. for me it is hate. maybe he is technically a better singer than Fish, but he can't shine a candle to him because of his lack of expression. with Fish gone Marillion completely lost that little bit of interest I had in them (I was never a big fan though)
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Posted By: Kotro
Date Posted: February 17 2007 at 17:13
Peter Hammil.
The man only yells and whispers. That's not singing. Yet somehow it fits perfectly with the music he and VDGG play.
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Posted By: NotAProghead
Date Posted: February 17 2007 at 17:13
If Brian May's voice is bad I don't know who has good voice.
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Posted By: Chus
Date Posted: February 17 2007 at 18:07
at the stage this thing is.. I'd put Peter Gabriel on the list, he's not exactly an opera singer.
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Posted By: micky
Date Posted: February 17 2007 at 18:12
markosherrera wrote:
micky wrote:
Willie Nelson?... why you....
She's
a railway lady.. .just a little bit shady.. spending her days on the
train... once a semi-good looker but the fast rails they took her.. now
she's trying..just trying... to get home again.
hahah... Willie Nelson?.. how dare you...
| Actually Willie Nelson dont sing ,he seems that cry the songs |
that's why we love Willie....
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Posted By: BaldJean
Date Posted: February 17 2007 at 19:04
Kotro wrote:
Peter Hammil.
The man only yells and whispers. That's not singing. Yet somehow it fits perfectly with the music he and VDGG play. |
you know very little of Peter Hammill if you think he only yells and whispers. he can sing absolutely beautifully if needed. I recommend to listen to "This Side of the Looking Glass" from his album "Over", for example
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Posted By: markosherrera
Date Posted: February 17 2007 at 19:07
Willie ..sometimes I DONT KNOW if when he seems crying is because he is laughing or making gargles but yeah is a good artist
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Posted By: alias10mr
Date Posted: February 18 2007 at 19:55
I voted other with the great Tom Waits in mind. Love the poetic phrasings and the music always gets me, but the smoke and alcohol driven voice is not my cup of tea in this case.
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Posted By: markosherrera
Date Posted: February 18 2007 at 20:45
NotAProghead wrote:
If Brian May's voice is bad I don't know who has good voice. | Are you in confussion between the voice of Roger Taylor and Brian May?
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Posted By: video vertigo
Date Posted: February 19 2007 at 04:22
BaldJean wrote:
Hogarth definitely is a love or hate man. for me it is hate. maybe he is technically a better singer than Fish, but he can't shine a candle to him because of his lack of expression. with Fish gone Marillion completely lost that little bit of interest I had in them (I was never a big fan though)
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I disagree about expressionless, but that's a matter of preference in styles IMO.
This post is accurate, Fish is not as good a singer but a much better performer. Hogarth regardless has no business in this thread because even you agree that he is better technically and that is what the poll indicates.
Why I disagree with the Hogarth emotion comment:
I think Hogarth era Marillion is much more emotional than Fish era, and one reason I like Hogarth so much. Fish era = better musicianship and performance Hogarth era = lack of interest in musicianship and more on style and emotion. Brave is the best example of this with a very wide range of emotions throughout the album. From suicidal depression to anger and back to sadness and an ending of hope. Other examples of Hogarth era emotion include: Ocean Cloud, This Strange Engine, Memory of Water, The Invisible Man, and The Party.
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Posted By: video vertigo
Date Posted: February 19 2007 at 04:25
Kotro wrote:
Peter Hammil.
The man only yells and whispers. That's not singing. Yet somehow it fits perfectly with the music he and VDGG play. |
Pretty silly comment, IMO Hammill sings like he invented the voice. Check out some more Hammill if you disagree, maybe the song House with no Door, that one gets me every time.
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Posted By: video vertigo
Date Posted: February 19 2007 at 04:28
markosherrera wrote:
video vertigo wrote:
_|_ Steve Hogarth has one of the best voices in music, just because you may like marillion better with fish Hogarth is still good vocally. | Hogarth could be Ok in a very soft songs ,when Fish go to other way and enter HOGARTH I FEEL A BIG DECEPTION,Hogarth dont have the voice and feeling of FISH ,There are hundreds of singers in prog and not prog music better than Hogarth,..but Hogarth is an excellent composer,teclist and make songs of grand beauty,but I am objetive he have a limited voice,that is going better in each new album ,but never he can be considered at the level of the greatest singers. |
I disagree, listen to Memory of Water. Really great singing In My Opinion. Maybe not one of the greatest ever, but no where near bad.
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Posted By: video vertigo
Date Posted: February 19 2007 at 04:30
markosherrera wrote:
video vertigo wrote:
I nominate this thread for worst ever. | Because I made a list with the worst voices? |
no because I'm upset that one of my favorites is on the list of worst ever. Dramatic nomination yes, and I apologize for that.
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Posted By: kazansky
Date Posted: February 19 2007 at 04:33
wow you post for 4 times in a row dude
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Posted By: video vertigo
Date Posted: February 19 2007 at 04:37
kazansky wrote:
wow you post for 4 times in a row dude |
that's what happens when you respond to 4 different posts. see now its 5
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Posted By: kazansky
Date Posted: February 19 2007 at 04:42
video vertigo wrote:
kazansky wrote:
wow you post for 4 times in a row dude |
that's what happens when you respond to 4 different posts. see now its 5 |
the fifth one didn't come in a row anymore, cause i cut your strike after the 4th one
now for the topic: Clapton. he's not a bad singer and hasn't got lots of vote either
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Posted By: Kotro
Date Posted: February 19 2007 at 06:03
Jean and Video Vertigo
I am quite familiar with Hammil, I know a lot (not all) of his work both solo and with VDGG, seen him live and spoke to him on one occasion last year.
I think it was pretty obvious my overstatement when saying he "only" screams and whispers. Yet I do not change my opinion, he conveys plenty of emotion but has a dreadful tone.
Still, I like him a lot.
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Posted By: BaldFriede
Date Posted: February 19 2007 at 08:30
video vertigo wrote:
Kotro wrote:
Peter Hammil.
The man only yells and whispers. That's not singing. Yet somehow it fits perfectly with the music he and VDGG play. |
Pretty silly comment, IMO Hammill sings like he invented the voice. Check out some more Hammill if you disagree, maybe the song House with no Door, that one gets me every time. |
"House with No Door" always makes me cry, especially the passage "it doesn't seem right when there's that little dark figure running -. won't somebody help me".
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Posted By: clarke2001
Date Posted: February 19 2007 at 10:43
As a Queen's fanboy, I have to vote for Brian May. I like his voice a lot, though.
And a little blasphemy: Ian Anderson. Let's admit he's no Pavarotti. But he sings from his testicles.
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Posted By: clarke2001
Date Posted: February 19 2007 at 10:48
Posted By: Chus
Date Posted: February 19 2007 at 11:03
clarke2001 wrote:
As a Queen's fanboy, I have to vote for Brian May. I like his voice a lot, though.
And a little blasphemy: Ian Anderson. Let's admit he's no Pavarotti. But he sings from his testicles.
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Ian Anderson has amazing projection of his voice and a tamed vibrato.. of course vibrato is not all there is to sing but it's not as easy as it sounds... there are other great singers that don't use much vibrato, like Flora Purim
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Posted By: Sean Trane
Date Posted: February 19 2007 at 11:05
^^^^^^^^^^^
I had no idea the forum stooped this low
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Posted By: E-Dub
Date Posted: February 19 2007 at 11:29
video vertigo wrote:
BaldJean wrote:
Hogarth definitely is a love or hate man. for me it is hate. maybe he is technically a better singer than Fish, but he can't shine a candle to him because of his lack of expression. with Fish gone Marillion completely lost that little bit of interest I had in them (I was never a big fan though)
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I disagree about expressionless, but that's a matter of preference in styles IMO.
This post is accurate, Fish is not as good a singer but a much better performer. Hogarth regardless has no business in this thread because even you agree that he is better technically and that is what the poll indicates.
Why I disagree with the Hogarth emotion comment:
I think Hogarth era Marillion is much more emotional than Fish era, and one reason I like Hogarth so much. Fish era = better musicianship and performance Hogarth era = lack of interest in musicianship and more on style and emotion. Brave is the best example of this with a very wide range of emotions throughout the album. From suicidal depression to anger and back to sadness and an ending of hope. Other examples of Hogarth era emotion include: Ocean Cloud, This Strange Engine, Memory of Water, The Invisible Man, and The Party. |
Sometimes I get the feeling Hogarth gets criticized because he's not Fish. To say that he has no emotion is laughable. At least he doesn't have the tendency to cheese it up like the Mad Scotsman did.
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Posted By: tdbark
Date Posted: February 19 2007 at 14:22
Two names I would add to this list would be Bruce Springsteen and Brian Johnson (of AC/DC). Johnson's voice sounds like someone is crushing his testicles with a pair of pliers...... So he gets my vote (other).
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Posted By: video vertigo
Date Posted: February 19 2007 at 14:30
E-Dub wrote:
video vertigo wrote:
BaldJean wrote:
Hogarth definitely is a love or hate man. for me it is hate. maybe he is technically a better singer than Fish, but he can't shine a candle to him because of his lack of expression. with Fish gone Marillion completely lost that little bit of interest I had in them (I was never a big fan though)
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I disagree about expressionless, but that's a matter of preference in styles IMO.
This post is accurate, Fish is not as good a singer but a much better performer. Hogarth regardless has no business in this thread because even you agree that he is better technically and that is what the poll indicates.
Why I disagree with the Hogarth emotion comment:
I think Hogarth era Marillion is much more emotional than Fish era, and one reason I like Hogarth so much. Fish era = better musicianship and performance Hogarth era = lack of interest in musicianship and more on style and emotion. Brave is the best example of this with a very wide range of emotions throughout the album. From suicidal depression to anger and back to sadness and an ending of hope. Other examples of Hogarth era emotion include: Ocean Cloud, This Strange Engine, Memory of Water, The Invisible Man, and The Party. |
Sometimes I get the feeling Hogarth gets criticized because he's not Fish. To say that he has no emotion is laughable. At least he doesn't have the tendency to cheese it up like the Mad Scotsman did.
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I wish Marillion had changed their name maybe we wouldn't have so much H v. Fish stuff. To say that H has a bad voice is really a bad judgement just because the same band used to have a singer some prefer.
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Posted By: Freak
Date Posted: February 19 2007 at 17:20
Y'know, I forget where I heard it, maybe one of the DVDs, but I remember hearing something that sounded like this: "If Marillion had changed their name after Fish left, they'd be one of the most popular bands around."
I always think it's silly how the band tries to distance itself from any associations people draw from the name, but the sound really has changed. They don't deserve to be judged against the previous incarnation (even if they compare finely, in my opinion).
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Posted By: markosherrera
Date Posted: February 19 2007 at 17:41
Axl Rose seems a cat fighting,etc but he is a hard rocker,and the same Bruce Springsteen and Brian Johnson,but they have voices adapted for the music of their groups...I think in other singers now..that dont have special voices but are famous..Bob Geldof,Donovan,Jim Capaldi(rip) and the awful singer little steven....one comment in this list I mix singers that I like with singers that I dont,but I believe is a good topic and each one can argument and defend diverses tastes,points of view etc.
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Posted By: Slayertplsko
Date Posted: July 27 2007 at 17:01
Dave Mustain. Dunno why, but I like him.
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Posted By: Proletariat
Date Posted: July 27 2007 at 17:06
Bright Eyes
(pleez dont laugh)
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Posted By: BroSpence
Date Posted: July 28 2007 at 00:31
Ringo, Reed, Dylan, Young, Nelson, Davies, and Lynott all have fantastic voices.
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Posted By: moreitsythanyou
Date Posted: July 28 2007 at 00:37
Proletariat wrote:
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I don't think he has a bad voice.
I'm going with the lead singer of Pavlov's Dog. He can sound like a dolphin at times,but I love it.
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Posted By: william314159
Date Posted: July 28 2007 at 00:42
How is Geddy not on this list???
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Posted By: sircosick
Date Posted: July 28 2007 at 01:28
Other: Thom Yorke. As a singer he has nothing but a good falsetto. But I love his style.
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Posted By: cuncuna
Date Posted: July 28 2007 at 01:36
Other: everyone in the first Wakeman albums. also, Steve Hackett.
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Posted By: Visitor13
Date Posted: July 28 2007 at 12:35
Of these, Latimer and Faithful. Also Nick Barrett.
I don't really care that much about Hogarth's voice. I agree it's a bit generic and samey. Still, he's better than Fish, who sounds like a ham actor to me, very artificial despite (because?) of his so-called expressiveness. I can't believe people actually fall for the 'emotion' in his singing. And Hogarth's vocal melodies are generally much better than Fish's.
There's a few missing in the poll, like '70s Peter Gabriel and Geddy Lee. Jon Anderson sings flat; so does the IQ singer (forgot his name). I don't think Stolt or Neal Morse have good vocal technique, either.
Singers with good technique whom I don't like are LaBrie and Annie Haslam.
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Posted By: fungusucantkill
Date Posted: July 28 2007 at 12:37
Les Claypool
he can't sing for ****
but its awesome anyway.
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Posted By: Visitor13
Date Posted: July 28 2007 at 12:39
^ Yup.
Also Cedric from The Mars Volta. Not bad, but not brilliant technically, I guess.
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Posted By: Guests
Date Posted: September 26 2007 at 22:21
tom delonge is a really sh*t singer...but i really like him as a guitarist and singer
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Posted By: Nanook
Date Posted: September 29 2007 at 22:17
Knopfler for me, I love his work, and I'm used to his voice. Same with Latimer and Gabriel. Love their stuff.
Axl Rose has a voice like a cat getting cut in half with a chain saw. Unreal how bad he is. Pathetic, actually. I've never heard a pro singer sound worse. Dylan's voice is better. At least to my ears.
Ian Anderson was mentioned by several. I actually like his voice, although it's not operatic quality. It suits his songs quite well, or maybe the songs suit his voice. Chicken and the egg?
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Posted By: Dim
Date Posted: September 29 2007 at 22:18
Russsel Allen
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Posted By: jikai55
Date Posted: September 29 2007 at 22:53
Bob Dylan. And Mark Knopfler, though he doesn't really sing.
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Posted By: Blacksword
Date Posted: October 01 2007 at 08:31
laplace wrote:
deny it all you want, everyone on the list is a terrible singer. ;)also I don't think Bjork's a bad singer at all given her range and depth. It might be an intentionally quirky voice but I don't think that makes it technically bad. just sexy
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Agreed. Bjork is technically a pretty good singer. Her range is fantastic, she is powerfull, versatile and original. She sings with great emotion and her intonation is actually very good; when it's not, it's obviously not supposed to be. Some people think that afemale singer has to sound like Karen Carpenter or Janet Baker to be 'technically good' It's not the case.
Anyway, Lemmy is my choice. Dreadful singer. Great voice!
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Posted By: markosherrera
Date Posted: December 13 2007 at 23:46
Steve Howe http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HOv_g0BmoRA - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HOv_g0BmoRA
Brian May http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w1ydSXHsc9Y - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w1ydSXHsc9Y
Keith Richards http://www.progarchives.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=34474&PN=5 - http://www.progarchives.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=34474&PN=5
Neil Young http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yYZ50PjDTi8 - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yYZ50PjDTi8
Bob Dylan http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TyNRlsuSZk8 - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TyNRlsuSZk8
Andy Latimer http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UleiJMl2z1s&feature=related - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UleiJMl2z1s&feature=related
Eric Clapton with Mark Knopfler http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o8ipQl9pywg - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o8ipQl9pywg
Steve Hogarth http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1yPWCttDSGY&feature=related - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1yPWCttDSGY&feature=related
Ringo Starr http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9PjnOdHq-T8 - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9PjnOdHq-T8
Ray Davies http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FXv5UsSLIiA - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FXv5UsSLIiA
mark knopfler http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=82evezX17nQ&feature=related - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=82evezX17nQ&feature=related
Lou Reed http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WZ88oTITMoM - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WZ88oTITMoM
Thin Lizzy http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wX7H2LFSA5M - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wX7H2LFSA5M
Willie Nelson http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v3DXyfL3HX0 - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v3DXyfL3HX0
Marianne Faithful http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0KV-PTK0UZ4 - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0KV-PTK0UZ4
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Posted By: stonebeard
Date Posted: December 13 2007 at 23:48
Steve Hogarth is a good prog singer. He may not be clear and disting or hit the notes totally right all the time, but he sings with emotion, which overrides anything else (assuming his voice isn't annoying and I don't think it is).
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Posted By: moreitsythanyou
Date Posted: December 13 2007 at 23:53
Lately, it's been Tom Waits
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Posted By: Hazlehurst
Date Posted: December 14 2007 at 07:33
I don't necessarily think Brian May has a bad voice at all. If you're singing alongside Freddie Mercury on the other hand... you're bound to be overshadowed.
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Posted By: Dean
Date Posted: December 14 2007 at 07:45
I had given up on this list until I read the last nomination - Marianne Faithful - oh yes, not a great voice, but a really great singer.
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Posted By: jimmy_row
Date Posted: December 14 2007 at 12:52
funny, I like every one of those singers aside from Hogarth and Marianne Faithful (don't know who she is), and I wouldn't say that all of them have a "bad" voice (especially Clapton, Neil Young, and Brian May). My pick is a toss up between ol' Neil and Brian May...really like Ray Davies as well.
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Posted By: electricsilence
Date Posted: December 15 2007 at 11:21
I would say a combination of Latimer and Ferguson, I'm not sure who sings in Song within a song, but he's voice is pretty bad, and anyways I love the vocals on that song.
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