can't play prog without alcohol ?
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Topic: can't play prog without alcohol ?
Posted By: Masque
Subject: can't play prog without alcohol ?
Date Posted: February 10 2007 at 22:48
well ? 
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Posted By: Chus
Date Posted: February 10 2007 at 22:54
how about "I can't play prog without alcohol?" ------------- Jesus Gabriel |
Posted By: Masque
Date Posted: February 10 2007 at 23:04
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Chus wrote:Posted By: rileydog22
Date Posted: February 10 2007 at 23:06
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It's fine in moderation. Too much can be a bad thing though.
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Posted By: Zac M
Date Posted: February 10 2007 at 23:07
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we hit the dark rooms at the dying of the light and for developments await the day beginning with the coming of the night i take my breakfast at eight p.m. i list the promises i've given to myself the world's at fourty degrees messages in bottles wait upon the bar-room shelf i count them off in twos and threes there's something ironic in unspoken jest my nerves take a tonic and the world takes the rest alcohol is an ambulance, a fighting ship alcohol gives the hand that shakes a steady grip alcohol is the scorpion in a lucky dip alcohol, alcohol i wall my thoughts up with a plaster skim like chewing gum they all congeal through glasses, darkly, i observe that's me that's him some kind of skeleton is hazily revealed... nothing's the matter nothing has changed i'm mad as a hatter but feeling no pain alcohol is the angel's kiss upon your lips alcohol is the sorceror's apprenticeship alcohol is the parachute that never rips alcohol is the jacket that you can't unzip alcohol is the searchlight and a neon strip alcohol is the answer at your fingertips alcohol - the casino where you cash your chips alcohol, alcohol, alcohol alcohol is an ambulance, a fighting ship alcohol gives the hand that shakes a steady grip alcohol is the scorpion in a lucky dip alcohol is the jacket that you can't unzip alcohol is the searchlight and a neon strip alcohol is the answer at your fingertips alcohol - the casino where you cash your chips alcohol, alcohol, alcohol alcohol is the angel's kiss upon your lips alcohol is the sorceror's apprenticeship alcohol is the parachute that never rips alcohol is the jacket that you can't unzip alcohol is the searchlight and a neon strip alcohol is the answer at your fingertips alcohol - the casino where you cash your chips alcohol, alcohol, alcohol ------------- "Art is not imitation, nor is it something manufactured according to the wishes of instinct or good taste. It is a process of expression." -Merleau-Ponty |
Posted By: moreitsythanyou
Date Posted: February 10 2007 at 23:07
If only prohibition worked  -------------  <font color=white>butts, lol[/COLOR] |
Posted By: laplace
Date Posted: February 10 2007 at 23:10
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KC say "Sex, Sleep, Eat, Drink, Dream" so I'm a gluttonous, rapacious stoned wino purely under their advisement ------------- FREEDOM OF SPEECH GO TO HELL |
Posted By: bhikkhu
Date Posted: February 11 2007 at 00:24
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Prohibition doesn't work. As long as people seek a mental escape, they will find one. Sure alcohol will not cause problems in moderation, but it doesn't benefit you at all either. Let's face it, the stuff is poison. You don't need it as part of your diet, and the dangers are all too apparent.
One thing that bothers me is the different attitude society has with alcohol. It's just as dangerous as any other drug (even more than some). Best idea is to avoid any potentially harmful substances. We have a hard enough time trying to see things clearly without being intoxicated. If you feel you need something to take the 'edge' off, try to find out why that is. Don't treat the symptom, find the cause. I know a bit about this, having been in the grips of alcoholism for the better part of 15 years. ------------- a.k.a. H.T. http://riekels.wordpress.com" rel="nofollow - http://riekels.wordpress.com |
Posted By: Man With Hat
Date Posted: February 11 2007 at 02:06
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Once in awhile ain't bad, esp. if its only a social thing. No need for this getting drunk every night thing.
And yes, this is a college student saying that.  ------------- Dig me...But don't...Bury me I'm running still, I shall until, one day, I hope that I'll arrive Warning: Listening to jazz excessively can cause a laxative effect. |
Posted By: The T
Date Posted: February 11 2007 at 02:07
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I don't like alcohol. I mean, I actually don't like the taste. I've only drank like ten times in my 28 years, always with the same friends and always in a music-conversation setting, usually till one of us is wasted. I'd say then that I use it as a ritual. I hate it elsewhere, I don't understand how it could be legal and the green oregano stuff isn't... Hipocresies and marketing needs of society... Alcohol isn't necessary in your life. It's good every once in a while and in an appropiate setting, but not as a requirement for having fun. ------------- 
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Posted By: blaughida
Date Posted: February 11 2007 at 03:39
I don't like the taste, either. It tastes, well, chemical, and it smells chemical. Why would I drink something that is somewhat poisonous and smells and tastes like it, too? So I can definitely listen to prog without alcohol--I've never listened to prog with alcohol. |
Posted By: N Ellingworth
Date Posted: February 11 2007 at 03:51
I can beat that easily, I'm a student and I've never been drunk  |
Posted By: Philéas
Date Posted: February 11 2007 at 05:41
| Second option. |
Posted By: andu
Date Posted: February 11 2007 at 05:47
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i only drink dry red wine, and no more than one glass a day. that's pure healt - from what i know it helps the blood to be more fluid and helps the regeneration of red blood cells, but much more visible is the great effect it has on digestion - in the case of drinking a glass both before and after eating. sometimes getting drunk is just as effective as a psychotherapy session. i know this from experience, but i'm not sure about advocating it. ------------- "PA's own GI Joe!" 
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Posted By: Frasse
Date Posted: February 11 2007 at 05:58
| Everything in moderation. |
Posted By: Visitor13
Date Posted: February 11 2007 at 07:14
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Posted By: Mascodagama
Date Posted: February 11 2007 at 07:56
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Well, it seems to go against the consensus, but I'll chip in to say that I like booze (both flavour and effects). Clearly it can and does cause problems for people who become addicted for whatever reason (I am not sure about the notion of an addictive personality) or who have the need to use it as a crutch, but for the vast majority there's no difficulty. It can be very pleasant to have wine with a meal, to go for a few drinks with friends, and once in a while even to get drunk. I would agree that there is a degree of hypocrisy in the prohibition of cannabis and certain other drugs whilst alcohol is legal. The correct answer in my view would be more legalisation, not more prohibition. Not a realistic political prospect in the UK or I suspect in the US, however.------------- Soldato of the Pan Head Mafia. We'll make you an offer you can't listen to. http://bandcamp.com/jpillbox" rel="nofollow - Bandcamp Profile |
Posted By: sleeper
Date Posted: February 11 2007 at 09:57
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I drink in moderation. I have a couple pints of cider on a saturday because I like the taste of the stuff, not because its going to get me drunk, something which I try to avoid as its especially bad to get wasted on cider. Personally I fail to see the point, or fun, in going out and drinking as much as possible as often as possible, its just a recipie for an early grave. ------------- Spending more than I should on Prog since 2005 
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Posted By: epictetus1
Date Posted: February 11 2007 at 10:21
| I find that after work alcohol relaxes me and makes me more emotionally responsive to music. It's OK to do once in awhile, but I think it's a bad habit to associate your music listening time with alcohol every day. For me 2-3 times per week, a glass of wine or scotch is a beautiful thing. But you have to moderate it. Cheers! |
Posted By: magnus
Date Posted: February 11 2007 at 10:39
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moderation is key! unfortunately, most kids my age have never looked up the word 'moderation' in the dictinoary, so they they spend their weekends being totally wasted. But hey, my sister told me a few wise words the other day. It went something along the lines of this: 'You have to realize this, Magnus: All people are idiots! At least until they have proven the opposite. And to be able to be around these idiots, you need to be "slightly" intoxicated to bear their presence, until they have presented the evidence which is supposed to make them non-idiots". And that, considering all the idiots I see and meet every single day, is a VERY good reason not to be moderate when it comes to drinking alcohol ------------- The scattered jigsaw of my redemption laid out before my eyes Each piece as amorphous as the other - Each piece in its lack of shape a lie 
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Posted By: Forgotten Son
Date Posted: February 11 2007 at 12:35
Tell that to the people in Southern France who live into their 90s. |
Posted By: Visitor13
Date Posted: February 11 2007 at 13:29
Tell that to many Buddhist monks who live into their 90s AND could kick our butts
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Posted By: MadcapLaughs84
Date Posted: February 11 2007 at 13:35
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Alcohol is worse than a joint, so they should fordid it ------------- 
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Posted By: Bj-1
Date Posted: February 11 2007 at 13:37
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I never had problems with alcohol, though I never drink too much of it. ------------- RIO/AVANT/ZEUHL - The best thing you can get with yer pants on! |
Posted By: JJLehto
Date Posted: February 11 2007 at 22:02
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Of course it's fine in moderation, but too much can really be bad. Just like everything else.
As for prog....well I don't think you need alcohol for it. But, I have seen some people that really did play better drunk. They claimed they "thought" less, so all the music came naturally.
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Posted By: The Whistler
Date Posted: February 12 2007 at 00:53
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If I'm gonna play prog myself (which I do from time to time, shameless plug, etc, etc), I make damn sure I'm juiced. ------------- "There seem to be quite a large percentage of young American boys out there tonight. A long way from home, eh? Well so are we... Gotta stick together." -I. Anderson |
Posted By: Masque
Date Posted: February 12 2007 at 04:46
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Posted By: Barla
Date Posted: February 12 2007 at 11:04
Why it isn't "I can play prog without alcohol"? I'd go for that one. I don't need alcohol to play prog or non-prog music, I think I may get too stoned to play with only a couple of cups.  At least, by now, I don't like alcohol...  ------------- http://www.last.fm/user/Barla/?chartstyle=LastfmMyspace">  
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Posted By: Logan
Date Posted: February 12 2007 at 11:59
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Instrumentally, I can't play prog with or without alcohol -- at least not very well. However, if I'm just playing a CD or mp3, I can do that equally well when pretty drunk or sober. As for LPs, I've scratched a few when I was off my face. I drink in moderation these days: some wine with a meal; a beer at a pub; an occasional Scotch or brandy. When I have played music at bars, it has always been after a few drinks, but I haven't done that in years. |
Posted By: memowakeman
Date Posted: February 12 2007 at 12:33
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I like drinking beer, it´s okay with me, i have no problem but i dont need anything of this to olay or listen and enjoy music. ------------- Follow me on twitter @memowakeman |
Posted By: Nash
Date Posted: February 12 2007 at 19:04
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I think its only a matter of being moderated in how much you drink ------------- http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/191/sydbarrettg.jpg/" rel="nofollow"> 
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Posted By: bhikkhu
Date Posted: February 12 2007 at 20:36
Thanks for backing me up. 
I think the people in Southern France could live to that age without wine also. And yes, some of those monks could kick our buts, but they would choose not to.
You should see Ven. Samu Sunim. The man in in his 70s, and blows young people away on morning jogs, and lengthy prostration sessions. ------------- a.k.a. H.T. http://riekels.wordpress.com" rel="nofollow - http://riekels.wordpress.com |
Posted By: GoldenSpiral
Date Posted: February 12 2007 at 20:39
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I've never been a fan of binge drinking, but I always love to have a few good beers. Bring some Doppel Bock this way!
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Posted By: Forgotten Son
Date Posted: February 13 2007 at 09:33
I'm sure they could. But red wine and certain other drinks can benefit ones health: http://www.healthspan.co.uk/articles/article.aspx?Id=163&ct=true http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/health/1719675.stm |
Posted By: bhikkhu
Date Posted: February 13 2007 at 15:05
"Can" is the key word. It's hardly a necessity. ------------- a.k.a. H.T. http://riekels.wordpress.com" rel="nofollow - http://riekels.wordpress.com |
Posted By: Forgotten Son
Date Posted: February 13 2007 at 15:30
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No, but it's enjoyable and has benefits. So I see no reason to be T-Total. If you don't like it, that's fine, though. |
Posted By: Melomaniac
Date Posted: February 13 2007 at 15:37
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it's ok, everything in moderation... except music ! ------------- "One likes to believe in the freedom of Music" - Neil Peart, The Spirit of Radio |
Posted By: bhikkhu
Date Posted: February 13 2007 at 16:10
It just concerns me when I see these kinds of arguments. I used to use them too. They are called rationalizations. It makes you feel better about using something you know is actually harmful. Sure, anything in moderation isn't going to kill you, but would you say the same thing about another drug? Would it be O.K. to have a line of coke for happy hour, smoke a little crack with the boys on Saturday night, or the occasional shot of heroin? It's really not all that different. If addiction never sets in, then there is no problem, but the potential is high. 80% of the alcohol sold in the U.S. is consumed by 20% of the people who drink it. ------------- a.k.a. H.T. http://riekels.wordpress.com" rel="nofollow - http://riekels.wordpress.com |
Posted By: progismylife
Date Posted: February 13 2007 at 16:13
Agreed! |
Posted By: chessman
Date Posted: February 13 2007 at 17:39
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Like most things, it's fine in moderation!
I usually have a nice cup of tea whilst listening to prog actually!
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