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Topic: Van der graaf generatorPosted By: Guests
Subject: Van der graaf generator
Date Posted: February 02 2005 at 20:49
Lets pick the prog men from the pussies.LOL.
Replies: Posted By: M@X
Date Posted: February 02 2005 at 21:19
WOW, a very very difficult one, since I am a BIGGGGGGGGGG fan !
As an admin , may I vote for all of them ?
But PAWN HEARTS is a total prog masterpiece .... really !
------------- Prog On !
Posted By: Spartacus
Date Posted: February 02 2005 at 22:00
Tough call, but I must go with Pawn Hearts. In my mind this is their most complete album and has great diversity. VDGG is such a complex band I am still trying to complety digest their material. After listening to them I feel totally exhausted in a good way.
Posted By: gdub411
Date Posted: February 02 2005 at 22:19
Pawn Hearts without a doubt. I listen to that one at least once/week.
Posted By: greenback
Date Posted: February 02 2005 at 23:25
world record.
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Posted By: Cinema
Date Posted: February 03 2005 at 00:05
Might as well count me among the pussies ... I hate VDGG.
Posted By: starofsirius
Date Posted: February 03 2005 at 00:23
H to He
------------- "I'm in a freefall like a snowflake falling down down down down down."
Posted By: Aaron
Date Posted: February 03 2005 at 01:04
H to He
i really like VDGG, i wish i had some on vinyl, i would listen to them a lot more
Aaron
Posted By: Aerosol Grey
Date Posted: February 03 2005 at 01:07
I hate that band
*looks at user name*
Wait, no, they're awesome, I voted Pawn Hearts
------------- Prog is the new punk, becuase kids who shop at Hot Topic don't know Bill Bruford is God.
Posted By: gdub411
Date Posted: February 03 2005 at 01:29
greenback wrote:
world record.
Welcome back Greenback..
Posted By: Mategra
Date Posted: February 03 2005 at 02:08
I like the second period slightly better than the first period.
Still Life is an all-time favourite but Godbluff and World Record are almost just as good.
Posted By: Man Erg
Date Posted: February 03 2005 at 03:27
Very tough choice.So tough in fact that I can't vote. I love 'em all.
Oh! alright then.
Pawn Hearts
------------- Do 'The Stanley' otherwise I'll thrash you with some rhubarb.
Posted By: Jim Garten
Date Posted: February 03 2005 at 03:33
Man Erg wrote:
Very tough choice.So tough in fact that I can't vote. I love 'em all.
Oh! alright then.
Pawn Hearts
Hmmmm - user called Man-Erg votes for Pawn Hearts, there's a surprise!
Pawn Hearts for me too - 'Plague Of Lighthouse Keepers', one of prog rock's defining moments!
------------- Jon Lord 1941 - 2012
Posted By: Certif1ed
Date Posted: February 03 2005 at 03:53
I'd really like to be different and vote for one of the other high-class albums...
...but Pawn Hearts it is!!!
Posted By: Blacksword
Date Posted: February 03 2005 at 04:19
Has to be Pawn Hearts
Man-ERG is one of the greatest prog rock songs ever written IMO, and the young Hammills performance on it is flawless.
Although A Plague of Lighthouse keepers took me quite a while to get into, I now regard it as a masterpiece as well.
I have also found that VDGG, along with Frank Zappa are very useful for clearing your house of unwanted guests late on a Saturday night when you want to go to bed..
------------- Ultimately bored by endless ecstasy!
Posted By: Guests
Date Posted: February 03 2005 at 05:00
PH for me too unsurprisingly but with Godbluff a VERY CLOSE second!! Its the best comeback Lp in prog history - although Peter Hammill never REALLY went away did he?
Hope they do loads of stuff off the Lp at the gig!
Posted By: sigod
Date Posted: February 03 2005 at 05:08
gdub411 wrote:
Pawn Hearts without a doubt. I listen to that one at least once/week.
Ditto here.
------------- I must remind the right honourable gentleman that a monologue is not a decision.
- Clement Atlee, on Winston Churchill
Posted By: Petra
Date Posted: February 03 2005 at 05:20
Oh I still can not appreciate VDGG, Hammills over theatrical voice annoys me too much.
I have listened to a lot of their albums as a close friend is a massive fan and I voted for H to He because despite what i said i love the track 'Killer'
I prefer Hammills solo album 'Nadir's Big Chance' over any VDGG though.
------------- Don't hate me
I'm not special like you
Posted By: JrKASperov
Date Posted: February 03 2005 at 05:46
Godbluff. It contains a way of implementing complex change of timesignatures into the song so that nobody notices it at first listen. Very smart indeed. Read my review.
------------- Epic.
Posted By: Fragile
Date Posted: February 03 2005 at 05:50
This is real difficult.But it has to be Still Life;Hammill's vocals are sublime on this record.The vocal alone on the title track is worth the money on it's own.Awesome music to boot and lyrics that a wordsmith would be proud of.
Lacking sleep and food and vision,
here I am again, encamped upon your floor,
craving sanctuary and nourishment,
encouragement and sanctity and more.
Posted By: Emperor
Date Posted: February 03 2005 at 05:54
Blacksword wrote:
Has to be Pawn Hearts
Man-ERG is one of the greatest prog rock songs ever written IMO, and the young Hammills performance on it is flawless.
Although A Plague of Lighthouse keepers took me quite a while to get into, I now regard it as a masterpiece as well.
The same thing was with myself in the recent 1st listens of Pawn Hearts. Now this is one of Top-5 albums ever!
PAWN HEARTS, of course!
(Though other 7 albums are at leas excellent too).
------------- I Prophesy Disaster...
Posted By: Emperor
Date Posted: February 03 2005 at 05:56
mandrake wrote:
Its the best comeback Lp in prog history - although Peter Hammill never REALLY went away did he?
Of course! For myself the discographies of VDGG and PH are the one discography.
------------- I Prophesy Disaster...
Posted By: Emperor
Date Posted: February 03 2005 at 06:00
These are the ratings (by myself) for all the VDGG studio-albums (15 as a maximum):
14
13
14,5
15
14,5
12,5
13,5
------------- I Prophesy Disaster...
Posted By: Joren
Date Posted: February 03 2005 at 06:34
Pawn Hearts for me!
Posted By: Jim Garten
Date Posted: February 03 2005 at 07:07
Blacksword wrote:
I have also found that VDGG, along with Frank Zappa are very useful for clearing your house of unwanted guests late on a Saturday night when you want to go to bed..
You too, eh?
------------- Jon Lord 1941 - 2012
Posted By: Guests
Date Posted: February 03 2005 at 07:54
Pawn hearts is the fav for the majority of you lot just as expected...
Posted By: Blacksword
Date Posted: February 03 2005 at 08:08
Jim Garten wrote:
Blacksword wrote:
I have also found that VDGG, along with Frank Zappa are very useful for clearing your house of unwanted guests late on a Saturday night when you want to go to bed..
You too, eh?
Works everytime!
Early Genesis is more hit and miss. Some people actually quite like it and want to hear more, but not many, of course. But VDGG freaks everyone out nicely..
------------- Ultimately bored by endless ecstasy!
Posted By: Jim Garten
Date Posted: February 03 2005 at 12:17
If all else fails - 'Plague Mass' by Diamanda Galas will work every time...... usually by about 30seconds in!
------------- Jon Lord 1941 - 2012
Posted By: Richardw
Date Posted: February 03 2005 at 15:36
Almost impossible to choose a favourite between 'H to HE', 'Pawn Hearts', 'Still Life' and 'Godbluff'. I think all of them are classics. This week it's 'Still Life' for me.
Posted By: Syzygy
Date Posted: February 03 2005 at 16:24
I went for Godbluff, although everything from Pawn Hearts through to World Record is of a remarkably high standard.
------------- 'Like so many of you
I've got my doubts about how much to contribute
to the already rich among us...'
Robert Wyatt, Gloria Gloom
Posted By: dougiejs
Date Posted: February 03 2005 at 17:15
Again seruously hard to choose they're all works of utter genius but I have to go for H to He simply because it's the first one I heard it still sends shivers down my spine!!
Posted By: Guests
Date Posted: February 03 2005 at 17:23
Hi people..
all albums of VDGG upto 'Pawn hearts' were awsome prog...afterwards albums seem to be a continuation of each all the same type sound.I know Progressive is all about progressing but to progress to a stage where your a boring un adventurous gang of fart's it's time to jack in...How the hell can you compare anything like 'Still life' to 'Pawn hearts'...Ithink not.
Pretty much the same with 'Hammill solos...dead after 'Silent corner'..
Posted By: gdub411
Date Posted: February 03 2005 at 18:32
Cinema wrote:
Might as well count me among the pussies ... I hate VDGG.
Might I steer you towards some nice Cher and Barbara Streisand lps.
Posted By: Fragile
Date Posted: February 03 2005 at 18:55
I think not Karnevil, plenty good stuff after Silent Corner' and Still Life is a classic.
Posted By: tuxon
Date Posted: February 03 2005 at 19:02
gdub411 wrote:
Cinema wrote:
Might as well count me among the pussies ... I hate VDGG.
Might I steer you towards some nice Cher and Barbara Streisand lps.
Posted By: Man Erg
Date Posted: March 05 2005 at 03:10
Has anybody noticed the symetricallity of the poll?(at the time of posting)
A statistitians dream.
Ironic considering VdGG's musical structures
------------- Do 'The Stanley' otherwise I'll thrash you with some rhubarb.
Posted By: Fragile
Date Posted: March 05 2005 at 03:12
They can be an extremely aquired taste for some, but when your'e in,your'e in big style.As stated before Hammill is a God singer;this tape will self destruct in 5 seconds.Still Life is one amazing album
Posted By: Manunkind
Date Posted: March 05 2005 at 06:35
Fav VdGG album? You'll never guess.
------------- "In war there is no time to teach or learn Zen. Carry a strong stick. Bash your attackers." - Zen Master Ikkyu Sojun
Posted By: Wizard/TRueStar
Date Posted: March 05 2005 at 13:07
I was just listening to godbluff last night and thought "OMG this is better than Pawn Hearts!!"
Godbluff>Pawn Hearts
Posted By: Mandrakeroot
Date Posted: April 14 2006 at 11:27
I voted "GODBLUFF" alone because it is my first VDGG album even if I bought!!!
For always yours, Mandrakeroot.
Posted By: BaldJean
Date Posted: April 14 2006 at 11:34
James Lee wrote:
H is to He...it's the only VDGG album on which I found anything even briefly worth listening to.
Think of it this way...Fripp could handle an entire album and tour
with Boz Burrell, but could only stand Peter Hammill for one
song.
Sure, that's why he invited him to sing several songs on his first
album "Exposure". In fact Robert Fripp is known to be a big admirer of
Hammill and once said about him: "What Jimi Hendrix did for the guitar,
Peter Hammill did for the voice".
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A shot of me as High Priestess of Gaia during our fall festival. Ceterum censeo principiis obsta
Posted By: dagrush
Date Posted: April 14 2006 at 11:41
The comeback album. The first one, not the second one.
Posted By: chamberry
Date Posted: April 14 2006 at 12:08
I'll have to go with the mayority here. The strangeness of Pawn Hearts
is the best part of the album IMO. MY sister always know who they
are when I play the shrieking part followed by some sax in
Man-erg. She always says "not again!"
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Posted By: Harold Demure
Date Posted: April 14 2006 at 12:09
Of course Pawn Hearts, but hasn't there recently been exactly the same poll?
------------- You can choose a ready guide
In some celestial voice
If you choose not to decide
You still have made a choice
Posted By: Man Erg
Date Posted: April 14 2006 at 12:24
Robert Fripp Appered on H to He.Pawn Hearts and a couple of PH's solo albums.Global Discipline has also stocked Hammill albums
------------- Do 'The Stanley' otherwise I'll thrash you with some rhubarb.
Posted By: Bj-1
Date Posted: April 14 2006 at 19:44
Pawn Hearts.
Then H to He and Godbluff!
------------- RIO/AVANT/ZEUHL - The best thing you can get with yer pants on!
Posted By: micky
Date Posted: April 14 2006 at 19:47
James Lee wrote:
H is to He...it's the only VDGG album on which I found anything even briefly worth listening to.
Think of it this way...Fripp could handle an entire album and tour
with Boz Burrell, but could only stand Peter Hammill for one
song.
hahaha while I wouldn't go that far... H to He is the album that I listen to and enjoy most.
------------- The Pedro and Micky Experience - When one no longer requires psychotropics to trip
Posted By: micky
Date Posted: April 14 2006 at 19:48
Harold Demure wrote:
Of course Pawn Hearts, but hasn't there recently been exactly the same poll?
yeah... within a week or two ago....
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Posted By: Prog-jester
Date Posted: April 15 2006 at 12:18
DISCIPLINE "Unfolded like Staircase"!!!
Ooops...sorry,wrong thread
No really,I like it much more than VDGG!!!
Posted By: greenback
Date Posted: April 15 2006 at 12:36
Prog-jester wrote:
DISCIPLINE "Unfolded like Staircase"!!!
Ooops...sorry,wrong thread
No really,I like it much more than VDGG!!!
indeed
discipline is to vdgg what gordian knot is to king crimson:
new bands that outclass legendary ones!!
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Posted By: Marc Baum
Date Posted: April 15 2006 at 13:36
Pawn Hearts and Godbluff are their outstanding masterpieces, but my favourite album was, is and will ever be H To He, specially this awesome remaster with Squid 1/Squid 2/Octopus on it!
------------- "All you need to do is sit back, and acquire the taste." - GENTLE GIANT