Led Zeppelin indulgence
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Topic: Led Zeppelin indulgence
Posted By: Chris S
Subject: Led Zeppelin indulgence
Date Posted: February 05 2007 at 20:44
I am really enjoying these guys at the moment and want to get a vote on poll of these three albums ONLY. Don't share opinions on the others, this is not your poll
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Posted By: Guests
Date Posted: February 05 2007 at 21:00
Physical Grafitti for its' very varied sound palette. That & having heard the other so often that their specialness is dulled.
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Posted By: Mellotron Storm
Date Posted: February 05 2007 at 21:01
There is something beautiful about "Houses of the Holy".To me this record is different then the others.I guess you could say that too about "Physical Graffiti",and i like it a lot too,but "Houses..." is more intimate if that makes any sense at all.
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Posted By: Chris H
Date Posted: February 05 2007 at 21:01
Houses is definitely their proggiest moment...
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Posted By: Equality 7-2521
Date Posted: February 05 2007 at 21:31
All of them light the fire man. Every Zep album does it for me, but Houses is my favorite.
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Posted By: endlessepic
Date Posted: February 05 2007 at 21:51
All three are great but Houses had the most progressive sound to it out of any zep albums.
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Posted By: Atavachron
Date Posted: February 05 2007 at 21:52
The music on Houses is best on the live 'Song Remains the Same'-- but Physical Graffiti wins here.
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Posted By: trauma0
Date Posted: February 05 2007 at 22:16
houses is my favourite album!!! is perfecto... TSRTS, RAIN SONG, THE OCEAN, OTHAFA... UFFF... ARE REALLY CLASSICS!
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Posted By: tuxon
Date Posted: February 05 2007 at 22:56
But I like their first album best. well maybe their IV th is their best but their should be something as a sympathy vote.
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Posted By: NotSoKoolAid
Date Posted: February 05 2007 at 23:51
Everyone here is bound to vote Houses of the Holy, it's quite progressive next to the likes of IV. Though I must say, progressive rock is not what Led Zeppelin did the best, their live takes and albums I, II, and IV are my favorite material.
So IV.
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Posted By: andu
Date Posted: February 06 2007 at 05:03
Can't vote.
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Posted By: Philéas
Date Posted: February 06 2007 at 13:25
Houses of the Holy is my favourite Zep album, but IV is very good aswell.
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Posted By: Cristi
Date Posted: February 06 2007 at 14:54
andu wrote:
Can't vote. |
ditto
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Posted By: Flokk
Date Posted: February 06 2007 at 15:00
My vote goes to IV, one of the main reasons is that this got me into Led Zeppelin, and of course that is their best in my opinion.
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Posted By: Witchwoodhermit
Date Posted: February 06 2007 at 23:19
Zeppelin's last album, IV.
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Posted By: Flokk
Date Posted: February 07 2007 at 08:39
Last Zeppelin album? It's their fourth, but not their last.
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Posted By: chopper
Date Posted: February 07 2007 at 08:55
trauma0 wrote:
houses is my favourite album!!! is perfecto... TSRTS, RAIN SONG, THE OCEAN, OTHAFA... UFFF... ARE REALLY CLASSICS! |
I give up, you're going to have to tell me what UFFF is?
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Posted By: tdbark
Date Posted: February 07 2007 at 14:32
The Rain Song remains one of the most beautiful songs I have ever heard....... HOTH hands down.
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Posted By: Nash
Date Posted: February 12 2007 at 21:28
for me, IV
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Posted By: Jim Garten
Date Posted: February 14 2007 at 07:45
I have to buck the trend here & say Houses Of The Holy is probably my least favorite album by LZ - I agree with Atavachron "The music on Houses is best on the live 'Song Remains the Same'".
For me, from the three listed, I'd have to go with Physical Graffiti; in fact, this is probably my favorite all-round LZ album (marginally ahead of III)- such a variety of styles, all topped off with 'Kashmir'.
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Posted By: chopper
Date Posted: February 14 2007 at 07:47
Atavachron wrote:
The music on Houses is best on the live 'Song Remains the Same'-- but Physical Graffiti wins here. |
100% in agreement. The Rain Song and No Quarter are far superior on the live album.
Still waiting to find out what UFFF is!
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Posted By: micky
Date Posted: February 14 2007 at 21:58
going with a big
none of them..
LZ 2 does that trick
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Posted By: cookieacquired
Date Posted: February 14 2007 at 22:02
Physical Graffiti wins for me but...
those drums on "when the levee breaks" sound so good DAMN
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Posted By: Guests
Date Posted: February 16 2007 at 17:56
Oops, misunderstood the topic line. I thought it was to ask if Led Zep were indulgent. Which they were, in a mostly good way ( we won't stray into the morals wide of things)
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Posted By: martinn
Date Posted: February 16 2007 at 18:06
chopper wrote:
Atavachron wrote:
The music on Houses is best on the live 'Song Remains the Same'-- but Physical Graffiti wins here. |
100% in agreement. The Rain Song and No Quarter are far superior on the live album.
Still waiting to find out what UFFF is! |
It is like a sigh I guess.. Like Ufffff they are good!
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Posted By: Guzzman
Date Posted: February 21 2007 at 02:58
martinn wrote:
chopper wrote:
Atavachron wrote:
The music on Houses is best on the live 'Song Remains the Same'-- but Physical Graffiti wins here. |
100% in agreement. The Rain Song and No Quarter are far superior on the live album.
Still waiting to find out what UFFF is! |
It is like a sigh I guess.. Like Ufffff they are good!
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Or maybe it's the sound the pick-up system of his record player makes when coming off the record?
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Posted By: Freak
Date Posted: February 21 2007 at 15:58
Houses Of The Holy, not because it's the proggiest, but because it's got "The Rain Song" and "Over The Hills And Far Away."
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Posted By: moodyxadi
Date Posted: February 23 2007 at 15:22
Light the Fire? IV. Best of the three (IMO)? Physicall Graffiti. But I love all Zep albums, even "In Through the Out Door", that is very poppy and with some uninspered songs.
Ah - I like the comment about their first album. Man, what a shock! It was my first Zep album and I can feel til today the sensation of fear and joy of listening my first real heavy album!
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Posted By: Blacksword
Date Posted: February 25 2007 at 08:43
chopper wrote:
Atavachron wrote:
The music on Houses is best on the live 'Song Remains the Same'-- but Physical Graffiti wins here. |
100% in agreement. The Rain Song and No Quarter are far superior on the live album.
Still waiting to find out what UFFF is! |
I voted for 'Houses..' but I agree the live versions are much better, especially 'No Quater' which is a masterpiece.
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Posted By: xenuwantsyou
Date Posted: February 26 2007 at 00:29
Houses here. I actually find that Misty Mountain Hop and Four Sticks nearly ruin IV for me.
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Posted By: mystic fred
Date Posted: February 28 2007 at 12:14
i still play IV and Houses regularly, Graffiti occasionally, must have heard them 10,000 times but they all still give me a buzz, not bad after 35 odd years!. i recently overheard a conversation in a record shop about Zeppelin - one guy said
"i've never bothered with them dinosaur bands - heard one you've heard 'em all....."
i was so astounded i said nothing -
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Posted By: Atavachron
Date Posted: March 02 2007 at 06:18
mystic fred wrote:
i still play IV and Houses regularly, Graffiti occasionally, must have heard them 10,000 times but they all still give me a buzz, not bad after 35 odd years!. i recently overheard a conversation in a record shop about Zeppelin - one guy said
"i've never bothered with them dinosaur bands - heard one you've heard 'em all....."
i was so astounded i said nothing -
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That was probably best, what is there to say really? Conversley, I once heard two guys discussing Zep, "They were really the kings.." one of them said. Pleased, I too said nothing.
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Posted By: chopper
Date Posted: March 02 2007 at 07:50
mystic fred wrote:
i still play IV and Houses regularly, Graffiti occasionally, must have heard them 10,000 times but they all still give me a buzz, not bad after 35 odd years!. i recently overheard a conversation in a record shop about Zeppelin - one guy said
"i've never bothered with them dinosaur bands - heard one you've heard 'em all....."
i was so astounded i said nothing -
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Wow, if only he knew what he was missing!
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Posted By: Malve87
Date Posted: March 02 2007 at 12:33
I love all of them, anyway we're talking about prog, and "Houses Of The Holy" is the closest to this genre, hell, songs like "No Quarter", "Over the hills and far away" and "The Rain Song" are Zeppelin-Filtered prog.
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Posted By: oliverstoned
Date Posted: March 02 2007 at 12:39
"No Quarter" is their most prog IMO. The guitar is cosmic, like the keyboards.
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Posted By: Man Erg
Date Posted: March 02 2007 at 12:42
HotH
My favourte LZ album is III by a mile.
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Posted By: Hratche
Date Posted: June 12 2007 at 04:11
Physical Graffiti was my least favorite LZ album at the time I bought it ... Mebbe because reviewers were comparing it (mostly unfavorably) to Exile on Main St., or because I was expecting another "Over the Hills" or "The Ocean", or because Plant's voice had dropped an octave. The folkie-countryish numbers seemed lightweight and superfluous, and "Trampled Under Foot" was just the latest DIsco Sell Out. And I absolutely hated "Kashmir". Yet unlike Exile, a solid but rather homogeneous set, PG continues to grow on me precisely because of the eclectic assortment. I rate it even above IV.
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Posted By: mystic fred
Date Posted: June 12 2007 at 04:22
Man Erg wrote:
HotH
My favourte LZ album is III by a mile. |
strangely enough a lot of Zeppelin "fans" i knew felt let down by LZ III - they were expecting another LZ II unfortunately, but i was expecting - another twist in the LZ tail!
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Posted By: Atavachron
Date Posted: June 12 2007 at 04:44
what I loved about lll was its psychedelic flavor, some of their strangest music; Friends, Celebration Day, BronYAur Stomp, Hats Off..
lV is the one that doesn't hold up, imo.. simple, even adolescent. 'Out Door' is world-class and 'Coda' is a blast. Best albums ll, lll, PG, Presence, ITtOD, and nothing beats those chords that open the first record... electrifying.
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Posted By: Odyssey
Date Posted: June 12 2007 at 05:46
Posted By: Zargus
Date Posted: June 12 2007 at 11:22
All of em are classics in there own right.. but the winner for me is Physical Graffiti.
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Posted By: Snow Dog
Date Posted: June 12 2007 at 11:49
Physical graffiti.
Simply the best.
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Posted By: BroSpence
Date Posted: June 13 2007 at 12:21
Physical Graffiti is the greatest.
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Posted By: Voidonaut
Date Posted: June 21 2007 at 21:02
physical graffiti for sure, "in the light" is their proggiest, imo
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Posted By: Barla
Date Posted: June 23 2007 at 12:48
IV
An all time classic!
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Posted By: febus
Date Posted: June 23 2007 at 14:28
PHYSICAL GRAFFITI the best by far and the last good one they did!
I've never been fan of HOUSES OF THE HOLY......Plant singing reggae...not for me and the CRUNGE but i love Dancing Days!
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Posted By: paolo.beenees
Date Posted: June 23 2007 at 14:32
You really make me want to put "Going to California" on and dream of riding there on a white horse.
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Posted By: prog4evr
Date Posted: June 28 2007 at 05:51
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Physical Grafitti for its' very varied sound palette. That & having heard the other so often that their specialness is dulled. |
Yes, one of those "varied sound palette" tunes is Kashmir, probably the best song Zep has ever recorded (proto-prog in some aspects, as well...)
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Posted By: Barla
Date Posted: June 28 2007 at 18:25
Hmmm... I must say I'm surprised by the results by now!
I thought IV would get the cup, and now it's the last one! Interesting...
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Posted By: ZowieZiggy
Date Posted: August 01 2007 at 09:30
Their fourth album of course followed by Houses.
Physical is what I considered as their poor album ever. Just a bunch of oldies not good enough to release when they were written + several uninspired and boring "new" material.
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Posted By: dedokras
Date Posted: August 02 2007 at 10:37
Three of their four masterpieces (the fourth one being III), can't help thinking some of the tracks on Phisical Graffiti are filler though... And i tend to agree with the statement the Houses songs sound better live... And some of the songs on IV are overplayed... so, no voting today
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Posted By: meinmatrix
Date Posted: August 03 2007 at 03:59
Physical Graffiti is winner in my book since it is their longest and most experimental work. Close second would have been Houses of the Holy.
Now does Physical Graffiti have any filler songs? Sure, but no more than Beatles White Album, and these Zep guys keep groove on to the last note, which itself is amazing achievement considering the length of album.
One thing that i have always been curious of, is when people say Robert Plant "lost his voice" around year 1973. Come on? Put Physical Graffiti in your record player and there you have some wildest rock singing ever.
Physical Graffiti has the best Jimmy Page guitar riffs ever, the best John Henry Bonham drumming ever, the best Robert Plant groove and simply put, the overall best Zep album of all times.
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Posted By: Atavachron
Date Posted: August 03 2007 at 04:09
it's true, Plant's voice took on a nice soulful scratch for PG... it was his elastic ability and range that had shrunk by 73. It is especially evident when hearing live performances during 71 and 72. But I agree that he sounds great on Graf, easily one of their top three albums
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Posted By: meinmatrix
Date Posted: August 03 2007 at 04:16
Mighty Rearranger (2005) by Robert Plant has still some really amazing vocal work, all one has to do is listen to acoustic song All the King's Horses.
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Posted By: The Whistler
Date Posted: August 03 2007 at 04:21
Actree: You'll be happy to note that Presence has grown a wee bit more on me, largely in the person of "Tea For One," one of Zep's saddest and most emotional songs.
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Posted By: Atavachron
Date Posted: August 03 2007 at 04:28
good to hear... Tea for One is often confused with the immortal 'Since I've Been Lovin You' cause they're both minor blues.. I like 'For Your Life' and N-N-N-Noooh-body's Fault..... Buh Ma-hine !
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Posted By: The Whistler
Date Posted: August 03 2007 at 04:34
"For Your Life" is my favorite on the album; I love that bloozy riff that opens it, and ascending/descending one towards the middle.
"Achille's Last Heel" is okay, but overlong.
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Posted By: andu
Date Posted: August 03 2007 at 10:40
Hey, I never thought I'd find other "For Your Life" fans on a prog forum! Most of the reviews I read are particularly harsh on that song. And I love it! The tune, which is amazingly slow and blasting at the same time, the humour - have you noticed the moment when Plant snores?
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Posted By: mrcozdude
Date Posted: August 07 2007 at 16:38
the rain song so beautiful,the crunge so groovy,no quarter so psychedelic
HOUSES WINS!
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