Missing information about Polish bands
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Topic: Missing information about Polish bands
Posted By: Tuzvihar
Subject: Missing information about Polish bands
Date Posted: January 23 2007 at 16:42
Many things missing in Polish bands infos! Let's start with the pics.
Albion
Ankh (btw, the website listed in the band's info doesn't seem to exist, also some albums are missing)
Apteka (many albums and bio missing)
Kont Ra Burger (should be one word - Kontraburger, bio missing)
Millenium (Framauro and Millenium are one band. Framauro changed its name to Millenium.)
Mr. Gil (a project of Mirosław Gil, a guitarist of Collage, Satellite and Believe: http://www.mirekgil.com/ - http://www.mirekgil.com/ )
Satellite (on the picture Wojciech Szadkowski)
Svann (a project of musicians from Abraxas and a vocalist Anja Orthodox - she's on the pic below)
Xenn (a project of former musicians from Abraxas - Łukasz Święch and Rafał Ratajczak, couldn't find a pic)
That's all for now. I'll be posting here missing information successively.
------------- "Music is much like f**king, but some composers can't climax and others climax too often, leaving themselves and the listener jaded and spent."
Charles Bukowski
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Posted By: Joolz
Date Posted: January 24 2007 at 01:54
Excellent .... pics are updated .... thanks for those
I noticed the website for Satellite is also wrong ..... goes to a computer site
Keep 'em coming
Cheers Joolz
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Posted By: Tuzvihar
Date Posted: January 24 2007 at 03:15
Thanks!
I think that entries for Framauro and Millenium should be merged into one Framauro/Millenium. As I mentioned before they are the same band who changed its name. I read it on the website listed here as the official website of Framauro which is the official website for both. The website is run by the leader of the band Ryszard Kramarski.
------------- "Music is much like f**king, but some composers can't climax and others climax too often, leaving themselves and the listener jaded and spent."
Charles Bukowski
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Posted By: Joolz
Date Posted: January 24 2007 at 03:40
Tuzvihar wrote:
Thanks!
I think that entries for Framauro and Millenium should be merged into one Framauro/Millenium. As I mentioned before they are the same band who changed its name. I read it on the website listed here as the official website of Framauro which is the official website for both. The website is run by the leader of the band Ryszard Kramarski. |
Oops, I missed Framauro .... can't really use the same pic because it clearly has Millenium emblazoned across the top .... perhaps we should put your suggestion [merging them] to the Neo Prog team ....
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Posted By: Tuzvihar
Date Posted: January 26 2007 at 19:23
Klan - Mrowisko
1. Sen 3:17 2.Kuszenie 3:29 3. Nerwy miast 3:31 4. Senne wędrówki 3:52 5. Taniec wariatki 2:02 6. Taniec czterech 1:37 7. Na przekór 2:16 8. Nasze myśli 5:10 9. Mrowisko 4:15 10. Pejzaż z pustych ram 4:31 11. Taniec głodnego 2:24 12. Epidemia euforii 3:46 13. Sen 1:49
Total time: 41:59
------------- "Music is much like f**king, but some composers can't climax and others climax too often, leaving themselves and the listener jaded and spent."
Charles Bukowski
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Posted By: Joolz
Date Posted: January 27 2007 at 05:58
Done ... thanks
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Posted By: Tuzvihar
Date Posted: February 19 2007 at 20:09
I've got a better pic of Exodus than the current one:
------------- "Music is much like f**king, but some composers can't climax and others climax too often, leaving themselves and the listener jaded and spent."
Charles Bukowski
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Posted By: Joolz
Date Posted: February 20 2007 at 03:11
Done ... thanks
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Posted By: Tuzvihar
Date Posted: February 20 2007 at 09:12
There's a mistake in Exodus - The Most Beautiful Dream tracklist:
LP - Track list: 1. Ci wybrani/Stary noe (9:00) 2. Zloty promien slonca (5:15) 3. Widok Z góry najwyzszej (5:45) 4. Ten najpiekniejszy dzien (9:20)
Total Time: 39:20
The timing should be: 19:20.
------------- "Music is much like f**king, but some composers can't climax and others climax too often, leaving themselves and the listener jaded and spent."
Charles Bukowski
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Posted By: Joolz
Date Posted: February 20 2007 at 13:19
Tuzvihar wrote:
There's a mistake in Exodus - The Most Beautiful Dream tracklist: |
I assume you meant The Most Beautiful Day .... done thanks
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Posted By: Tuzvihar
Date Posted: February 20 2007 at 15:53
Joolz wrote:
Tuzvihar wrote:
There's a mistake in Exodus - The Most Beautiful Dream tracklist: |
I assume you meant The Most Beautiful Day .... done thanks
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Of course!
------------- "Music is much like f**king, but some composers can't climax and others climax too often, leaving themselves and the listener jaded and spent."
Charles Bukowski
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Posted By: Tuzvihar
Date Posted: February 25 2007 at 14:15
Hello again.
I'm in the process of adding albums of Marek Grechuta. One of his albums was recorded twice (1972 and 1991) and issued with diffrenet covers. I wanted to put both covers so I merged them into one pic:
http://www.progarchives.com/Progressive_rock_discography_CD.asp?cd_id=14611 - http://www.progarchives.com/Progressive_rock_discography_CD.asp?cd_id=14611
The pic was automatically reduced. I'd like it to be in its original size (height: 400, width: 200). Is it possible?
------------- "Music is much like f**king, but some composers can't climax and others climax too often, leaving themselves and the listener jaded and spent."
Charles Bukowski
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Posted By: Joolz
Date Posted: February 26 2007 at 06:43
Sorry, Bartek, site rules are that the original cover must be displayed at maximum 200x200 pixels ..... yours was reduced because it exceeded the height restrictions . Could you post the original one here so that I can update the album.
But don't despair .... if the 1991 version is genuinely a re-recording then it should be treated as a separate album and therefore you can create a new entry for it ..... I suggest appending (1991) to the title.
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Posted By: Tuzvihar
Date Posted: February 26 2007 at 11:01
Ok.
------------- "Music is much like f**king, but some composers can't climax and others climax too often, leaving themselves and the listener jaded and spent."
Charles Bukowski
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Posted By: Joolz
Date Posted: February 27 2007 at 05:34
Thanks .... pic updated
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Posted By: Tuzvihar
Date Posted: February 28 2007 at 15:58
Joolz wrote:
Sorry, Bartek, site rules are that the original cover must be displayed at maximum 200x200 pixels ..... yours was reduced because it exceeded the height restrictions . Could you post the original one here so that I can update the album.
But don't despair .... if the 1991 version is genuinely a re-recording then it should be treated as a separate album and therefore you can create a new entry for it ..... I suggest appending (1991) to the title.
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I did as you suggested. But I noticed I made some mistakes. I inserted lineups in wrong format (with "-" instead of "/") here:
http://www.progarchives.com/Progressive_rock_discography_CD.asp?cd_id=14652 - http://www.progarchives.com/Progressive_rock_discography_CD.asp?cd_id=14652
and here (last position):
http://www.progarchives.com/Progressive_rock_discography_CD.asp?cd_id=14687 - http://www.progarchives.com/Progressive_rock_discography_CD.asp?cd_id=14687
And one more thing. Could you please check all Grechuta albums lineups and change "viola" to "cello"? I just used the wrong word. Sorry... (in "Korowód" lineup though Tadeusz Kożuch played indeed viola but Anna Wójtowicz played cello)
EDIT: one more mistake made by me: http://www.progarchives.com/Progressive_rock_discography_CD.asp?cd_id=14689 - http://www.progarchives.com/Progressive_rock_discography_CD.asp?cd_id=14689 track number 3: 3. Krajobraz z Wilgą i ludzie (03:05) - remove the "0" from before the "3".
------------- "Music is much like f**king, but some composers can't climax and others climax too often, leaving themselves and the listener jaded and spent."
Charles Bukowski
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Posted By: Tuzvihar
Date Posted: February 28 2007 at 16:54
I spotted some mistakes in my NURT biography: http://www.progarchives.com/Progressive_rock_discography_BAND.asp?band_id=2755 - http://www.progarchives.com/Progressive_rock_discography_BAND.asp?band_id=2755 Correct version below:
NURT biography
This legendary Polish band
emerged in 1971 as a continuation of another legendary ensemble,
Romuald i Roman. Their first lineup consisted of Roman Runowicz - g,
voc, Ryszard Sroka - dr, Aekdander Mrożek - g, voc, Kazimierz Cwynar -
bg, voc, with the so-called artistic director Andrzej Kuryło who was
the author of all lyrics. The band's music was said to be
inspired by Colosseum, Jimi Hendrix and John Mayall. It existed on and
off till 1977 with some lineup changes. Other musicians who ap... This
legendary Polish band emerged in 1971 as a continuation of another
legendary ensemble, Romuald i Roman. Their first lineup consisted of
Roman Runowicz - g, voc, Ryszard Sroka - dr, Aleksander Mrożek - g, voc,
Kazimierz Cwynar - bg, voc, with the so-called artistic director
Andrzej Kuryło who was the author of all lyrics. The band's
music was said to be inspired by Colosseum, Jimi Hendrix and John
Mayall. It existed on and off till 1977 with some lineup changes. Other
musicians who appeared in the lineup were Jan Jacek Baron (ex-Romuald i
Roman), Piotr Iskrowicz (later in Bank), Mieczysław Jurecki (later in
Budka Suflera). The band collaborated also with some jazz musicians
such as Włodzimierz Plaskota, Tomasz Stańko, Julian Kurzawa.
The
band made its debut in January 1972 at The II Modern Youth Music
Festival in Kalisz. 1972 also saw the release of their only LP. In
spite of public acclaim, the band proved short-lived and faded soon
after. Cwynar and Mrozek moved on to Test, then became a
nucleus of Porter Band's classic line-up from 1979-80.
NURT
left only one, self-titled album, and also some radio recordings. In
1994 a new version of the album was released, advertised as a reissue
with bonus tracks. However, it consisted of tracks with the same titles
as on the LP but in completely different versions. The actual reissue
came out in 2004.
At the beginning of the 90s the band
reactivated (lineup: Sylwia Damasiewicz - voc, Kazimierz Marut - dr,
Aleksander Mrożek - acg, g, k, psg, Bogdan Tymoszuk - bg), and released
an album called "Motyle i kloszardzi". but it contained a completely
different music, closer to classic rock. The next reunion took place in
the new century. The band members meet with each other and play some
concerts from time to time.
Bartek Ślązak (Tuzvihar) - Poland
------------- "Music is much like f**king, but some composers can't climax and others climax too often, leaving themselves and the listener jaded and spent."
Charles Bukowski
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Posted By: Tuzvihar
Date Posted: February 28 2007 at 16:58
And you promised me some assignments regarding my will to help in the Errors & Omissions Team.
------------- "Music is much like f**king, but some composers can't climax and others climax too often, leaving themselves and the listener jaded and spent."
Charles Bukowski
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Posted By: Joolz
Date Posted: March 01 2007 at 04:19
Tuzvihar wrote:
I did as you suggested. But I noticed I made some
mistakes. I inserted lineups in wrong format (with "-" instead of "/")
here:
../Progressive_rock_discography_CD.asp?cd_id=14652 - http://www.progarchives.com/Progressive_rock_discography_CD.asp?cd_id=14652
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Done
Tuzvihar wrote:
and here (last position):
../Progressive_rock_discography_CD.asp?cd_id=14687 - http://www.progarchives.com/Progressive_rock_discography_CD.asp?cd_id=14687
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Done
Tuzvihar wrote:
And one more thing. Could you please check all Grechuta
albums lineups and change "viola" to "cello"? I just used the wrong
word. Sorry... (in "Korowód" lineup though Tadeusz Kożuch played indeed viola but Anna Wójtowicz played cello) |
All done .... leaving just Tadeusz Kożuch on viola on Korowód
Tuzvihar wrote:
EDIT: one more mistake made by me: ../Progressive_rock_discography_CD.asp?cd_id=14689 - http://www.progarchives.com/Progressive_rock_discography_CD.asp?cd_id=14689 track number 3: 3. Krajobraz z Wilgą i ludzie (03:05) - remove the "0" from before the "3".
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Not done .... wrong album maybe?
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Nurt bio ..... done ..... no chance of a website for Nurt I suppose?
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Posted By: Tuzvihar
Date Posted: March 01 2007 at 05:05
Joolz wrote:
Tuzvihar wrote:
EDIT: one more mistake made by me: ../Progressive_rock_discography_CD.asp?cd_id=14689 - http://www.progarchives.com/Progressive_rock_discography_CD.asp?cd_id=14689 track number 3: 3. Krajobraz z Wilgą i ludzie (03:05) - remove the "0" from before the "3".
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Not done .... wrong album maybe?
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I just inserted the timing in a wrong format. Look:
1. Droga za widnokres (4:13) 2. Jeszcze pożyjemy (4:42) 3. Krajobraz z Wilgą i ludzie (03:05) 4. Gdzieś w nas (3:32) 5. Gdziekolwiek (2:25) 6. Wędrówka (4:56) 7. Pewność (5:14) 8. Może usłyszysz wołanie o pomoc (5:28)
Joolz wrote:
Nurt bio ..... done ..... no chance of a website for Nurt I suppose?
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Yep, I'm affraid so.
------------- "Music is much like f**king, but some composers can't climax and others climax too often, leaving themselves and the listener jaded and spent."
Charles Bukowski
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Posted By: Joolz
Date Posted: March 01 2007 at 05:13
Yep, it was the wrong album .... by me .... I was looking at the original version
Done now
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Posted By: Tuzvihar
Date Posted: March 01 2007 at 16:34
One more mistake I've made: http://www.progarchives.com/Progressive_rock_discography_CD.asp?cd_id=14709 - http://www.progarchives.com/Progressive_rock_discography_CD.asp?cd_id=14709
It should be The Best in the title ("e" letter missing). Sorry...
------------- "Music is much like f**king, but some composers can't climax and others climax too often, leaving themselves and the listener jaded and spent."
Charles Bukowski
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Posted By: Joolz
Date Posted: March 02 2007 at 05:33
Question: why have you named it "The Best (Album Live)" when it is listed on his website as "Upojenie"? We have all his other albums in Polish so why not this one?
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Posted By: Tuzvihar
Date Posted: March 02 2007 at 05:49
Well, I used another site: http://www.archiwumrocka.art.pl/1726,opis.html - http://www.archiwumrocka.art.pl/1726,opis.html
Not only the title is different but also the year of release and the number of tracks.
------------- "Music is much like f**king, but some composers can't climax and others climax too often, leaving themselves and the listener jaded and spent."
Charles Bukowski
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Posted By: Joolz
Date Posted: March 02 2007 at 06:30
I've just spent a while searching, and only came up with one other reference to these albums .... http://daz.com/releases/Marek%20Grechuta/the%20best.html - http://daz.com/releases/Marek%20Grechuta/the%20best.html .... which has the same details as yours, but no cover
So ..... is it the same album ... perhaps the 1997 version is an expanded re-issue for the international market? Any ideas?
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Posted By: Tuzvihar
Date Posted: March 02 2007 at 07:00
I googled the label "FDM Records" and I got: http://www.fdmrecords.com/ - http://www.fdmrecords.com/ It looks like it's not the label that issued Marek Grechuta's compilation. There must have been another FDM Records...? I'm not an expert in Grechuta's discography and I don't have this album. I haven't found it on two other sites at all... What's the site's policy in such cases?
------------- "Music is much like f**king, but some composers can't climax and others climax too often, leaving themselves and the listener jaded and spent."
Charles Bukowski
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Posted By: Joolz
Date Posted: March 02 2007 at 07:11
Well ...... I don't want to change anything until we are sure what is what, so let's hope something turns up
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Posted By: Joolz
Date Posted: March 02 2007 at 07:15
By the way .... I noticed your name was wrong in the bio so I have changed it .... OK?
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Posted By: stonebeard
Date Posted: March 02 2007 at 07:32
Posted By: Tuzvihar
Date Posted: March 02 2007 at 08:07
Joolz wrote:
By the way .... I noticed your name was wrong in the bio so I have changed it .... OK?
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Was it Bartłomiej? It's ok both ways. Bartek is a shorter form of Bartłomiej. It's like William and Bill.
BTW, I noticed that the discography listed under Grechuta's bio misses polish letters. Correct version:
Discography: Marek Grechuta & Anawa (1970 - studio album) Korowód (1971 - studio album) Droga za widnokres (1972 - studio album) Magia obłoków (1974 - studio album) Szalona lokomotywa (1977 - studio album) Pieśni Marka Grechuty do słów Tadeusza Nowaka (1979 - studio album) Śpiewające obrazy (1981 - studio album) W malinowym chruśniaku (1984 - studio album) Wiosna - ach to ty (1987 - studio album) Krajobraz pełen nadziei (1989 - studio album) Ocalić od zapomnienia (1990 - compilation) Piosenki dla dzieci i rodziców (1991 - studio album) Dziesięć ważnych słów (1994 - studio album) Niezwykłe miejsca (2003 - studio album)
And there's only one compilation listed here while there's obviously more. I haven't added all of them yet.
------------- "Music is much like f**king, but some composers can't climax and others climax too often, leaving themselves and the listener jaded and spent."
Charles Bukowski
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Posted By: Joolz
Date Posted: March 03 2007 at 07:15
Disc list done ... thanks
Your name .... your surname was "Ślązak"
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Posted By: Tuzvihar
Date Posted: March 09 2007 at 16:28
Tuzvihar wrote:
Joolz wrote:
By the way .... I noticed your name was wrong in the bio so I have changed it .... OK?
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Was it Bartłomiej? It's ok both ways. Bartek is a shorter form of Bartłomiej. It's like William and Bill.
BTW, I noticed that the discography listed under Grechuta's bio misses polish letters. Correct version:
Discography: Marek Grechuta & Anawa (1970 - studio album) Korowód (1971 - studio album) Droga za widnokres (1972 - studio album) Magia obłoków (1974 - studio album) Szalona lokomotywa (1977 - studio album) Pieśni Marka Grechuty do słów Tadeusza Nowaka (1979 - studio album) Śpiewające obrazy (1981 - studio album) W malinowym chruśniaku (1984 - studio album) Wiosna - ach to ty (1987 - studio album) Krajobraz pełen nadziei (1989 - studio album) Ocalić od zapomnienia (1990 - compilation) Piosenki dla dzieci i rodziców (1991 - studio album) Dziesięć ważnych słów (1994 - studio album) Niezwykłe miejsca (2003 - studio album)
And there's only one compilation listed here while there's obviously more. I haven't added all of them yet.
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Strange... There are also polish letters missing in the bio! But it was me who wrote it and I'm sure they were there... Anyway, here's the corrected version:
MAREK GRECHUTA was born on 10 December 1945 in Zamość, where he went to
primary and secondary school. He’d been interested in music since
childhood and begun to learn playing the piano at the age of seven.
He
bound his fate with Kraków though, where he moved to study
architecture. There GRECHUTA met his future friend Jan Kanty
Pawluśkiewicz, with whom he decided to start a cabaret group in the
manner of Piwnica pod Baranami (an artistic bohema in Kraków which
lasts to this day). This cabaret act, which took the name ANAWA (from
the French 'en avant', which means “forward”), begun to perform in a
student club “Bambuko”. The first decent success came with the
performance on Festiwal Piosenki Studenckiej in 1967. GRECHUTA took the
second place in this contest behind a young student from Warszawa –
Maryla Rodowicz (who later also became a famous singer in Poland). The
final of the contest was broadcast live by the television what enabled
the young archtecture student to be seen by the whole Poland. The next
important event for MAREK GRECHUTA was his taking part in FAMA
Festival, where the young artist won the first prize. Those
successes led him to perform on the most important contest in Poland in
that time, which was the Festival in Opole. In the next year, 1970,
GRECHUTA released his debut album called simply “Marek Grechuta &
Anawa” (predated by a 4-song EP in 1969). It was a mix of cabaret,
lyrical songs with neobaroque sound so characteristic, as it turned out
later, for ANAWA.
In 1971 MAREK GRECHUTA and Jan Kanty
Pawluśkiewicz recorded their second album, titled “Korowód”, which is
considered one of the most important in the history of Polish popular
music. It contained two songs regarded as generation hymns - "Świecie
nasz" and title “Korowód”. This album made GRECHUTA a star!
Despite
all this successes the band suddenly broke up. GRECHUTA and Jan Kanty
Pawluśkiewicz split. As GRECHUTA admitted himself, there were too many
individualities in the group, so it couldn’t last long.
MAREK
GRECHUTA arranged his own band then – WIEM. The name is an abbreviation
of “w innej epoce muzycznej”, which means “in another musical epoch”.
This way he wanted to communicate the complete change of musical
direction. The two albums he recorded with WIEM – “Droga za widnokres”
in 1972 and “Magia Obłoków” in 1974 – are the key albums for any prog
lover who wants to explore GRECHUTA’s works. The music they contain is
magical, poetic art rock with jazz influences.
However, the
artist himself felt unsure of hi new musical direction, and his flirt
with art rock ended in 1976, when he begun to cooperate with Jan Kanty
Pawluśkiewicz again. Together they reactivated ANAWA (with known from
LABORATORIUM Ścierańscy brothers), and wrote a musical based around
works of a Polish avantgarde writer Stanisław Ignacy Witkiewicz (also
called Witkacy) titled “Szalona Lokomotywa”. This musical and LP with
music from it (issued in 1977) made a huge success after which GRECHUTA
and Pawluśkiewicz split again.
In the following years MAREK
GRECHUTA performed in Piwnica pod Baranami and issued many good and
well received albums with compositions to poems of several Polish
poets. In 1991 he surprised his fans by rerecording material from
“Droga za widnokres” with ANAWA in order to expose young generations to
this cult masterpiece.
In 1994 MAREK GRECHUTA recorded an album
titled “Dziesięć ważnych słów” dealing with social problems, which was
unusual for him. He was really adored and, when at the age of 60 he
suddenly died (though it wasn’t a secret that he’d been ill for a long
time) on 9 October 2006, the whole of Poland was in mourning...
------------- "Music is much like f**king, but some composers can't climax and others climax too often, leaving themselves and the listener jaded and spent."
Charles Bukowski
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Posted By: Joolz
Date Posted: March 10 2007 at 08:17
Bio updated .... Looks better now.
Some people seem to have problems with these Polish/etc characters - not sure what the problem is but for some reason they don't transcribe properly .... seems OK when I do it so there must be some difference in our system set-ups
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Posted By: Tuzvihar
Date Posted: March 16 2007 at 20:32
Tuzvihar wrote:
One more mistake I've made: http://www.progarchives.com/Progressive_rock_discography_CD.asp?cd_id=14709 - http://www.progarchives.com/Progressive_rock_discography_CD.asp?cd_id=14709
It should be The Best in the title ("e" letter missing). Sorry...
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Hey! You didn't fix this!
------------- "Music is much like f**king, but some composers can't climax and others climax too often, leaving themselves and the listener jaded and spent."
Charles Bukowski
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Posted By: Joolz
Date Posted: March 17 2007 at 07:55
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