PROGtology.com Signatures: Testers needed
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Topic: PROGtology.com Signatures: Testers needed
Posted By: MikeEnRegalia
Subject: PROGtology.com Signatures: Testers needed
Date Posted: January 16 2007 at 19:06
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NOTE: This is for all the users who are using my signature service ( http://www.progtology.com/home/signatures.xhtml - http://www.progtology.com/home/signatures.xhtml ). A few months ago I was announcing a new mode - an alternative to the Last.fm statistics. Unfortunately the complete re-design of the website took much more time than I thought, and I wanted to complete that first. But now the new mode is available: "Recently Played Albums/Album Playlist" (I'm still not sure about the name  )The differences to the Last.fm mode are:
Let me know what you think about it.  ------------- https://awesomeprog.com/users/Mike" rel="nofollow">Recently listened to: 
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Posted By: Angelo
Date Posted: January 17 2007 at 02:09
Too much effort for me (lazy b***rd), but a nice addition for some of us anyway.
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Posted By: MikeEnRegalia
Date Posted: January 20 2007 at 07:06
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I'm bumping this ... I'd be glad if some of you could test this, just for the sake of giving me some feedback. Especially if you think that it's too cumbersome ... please have a try and then tell me how it turned out. ------------- https://awesomeprog.com/users/Mike" rel="nofollow">Recently listened to:
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Posted By: Trickster F.
Date Posted: January 20 2007 at 14:00
Yay! 
I'll insert it in mine in a few minutes! ------------- sig |
Posted By: Man With Hat
Date Posted: January 20 2007 at 14:08
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This may sound like a stupid question, but being you are imputing things manually do you still need a last.fm account? ------------- Dig me...But don't...Bury me I'm running still, I shall until, one day, I hope that I'll arrive Warning: Listening to jazz excessively can cause a laxative effect. |
Posted By: MikeEnRegalia
Date Posted: January 20 2007 at 19:12
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^ no, all you need is a PROGtology.com account. You simply configure your signature to include the mode "Recently Played Albums" ... then whenever you listen to an album, just go to the album page (just use the search facility) and use the button in the sidebar to add the album to your playlist. It's really not cumbersome ... actually it's just a few clicks, even if you're listening to half a dozen albums each day. ------------- https://awesomeprog.com/users/Mike" rel="nofollow">Recently listened to:
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Posted By: Man With Hat
Date Posted: January 20 2007 at 19:21
 . I'll try it soon.  ------------- Dig me...But don't...Bury me I'm running still, I shall until, one day, I hope that I'll arrive Warning: Listening to jazz excessively can cause a laxative effect. |
MikeEnRegalia wrote:Posted By: Man With Hat
Date Posted: January 20 2007 at 19:38
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Well...its there.
And it is quite easy to add albums.
 My question: Whats with the "3m" in front of Adrian Belew? And is it suppose to say statistics in between? ------------- Dig me...But don't...Bury me I'm running still, I shall until, one day, I hope that I'll arrive Warning: Listening to jazz excessively can cause a laxative effect. |
Posted By: MikeEnRegalia
Date Posted: January 20 2007 at 19:43
^ the "3m" stands for "3 minutes ago" ... and the box headings are not being displayed correctly in your signature. I'll try to fix it - the boxes should be at least wide enough for the heading. Currently the width of the boxes is determined just by the contents, not the heading ...  ------------- https://awesomeprog.com/users/Mike" rel="nofollow">Recently listened to:
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Posted By: Man With Hat
Date Posted: January 20 2007 at 19:48
Ahh.
 Sorry. That makes sense. There were alot of options, a few of which I was afraid to change so I figured I'd let it be defaulted.
Thanks. ------------- Dig me...But don't...Bury me I'm running still, I shall until, one day, I hope that I'll arrive Warning: Listening to jazz excessively can cause a laxative effect. |
Posted By: MikeEnRegalia
Date Posted: January 20 2007 at 19:56
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I changed the code so that boxes have a minimum width of 120 pixels ... should look much better now!
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Posted By: Man With Hat
Date Posted: January 20 2007 at 19:58
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It does!
Thank you! ------------- Dig me...But don't...Bury me I'm running still, I shall until, one day, I hope that I'll arrive Warning: Listening to jazz excessively can cause a laxative effect. |
Posted By: MikeEnRegalia
Date Posted: January 20 2007 at 20:01
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^ You're very welcome - I'm always trying to improve the system.
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Posted By: Trickster F.
Date Posted: January 21 2007 at 09:53
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Posted By: rileydog22
Date Posted: January 21 2007 at 20:11
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I like it! I'm adding it.
Thanks Mike! Your site rules! Just out of curiosity, is it possible to set an image as a background for the sigs? -------------   |
Posted By: N Ellingworth
Date Posted: January 22 2007 at 01:41
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I'll give it a go EDIT: Done quite an easy system to use  |
Posted By: MikeEnRegalia
Date Posted: January 22 2007 at 02:52
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Hi guys - thanks for testing the system! Let's collect feature requests and suggestions for a few days - feel free to mention anything that you like (or don't like) about the current implementation, and by the end of the week I'll post a detailed answer. ------------- https://awesomeprog.com/users/Mike" rel="nofollow">Recently listened to:
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Posted By: N Ellingworth
Date Posted: January 22 2007 at 04:48
| Well the system for finding albums is a bit long winded, it would be easier if there was a drop down list of all the bands on the site, and a second one for the selected bands discography, also a custom entry form would be useful for adding albums to the sig, that not on the site and won't ever get added. |
Posted By: MikeEnRegalia
Date Posted: January 22 2007 at 04:52
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^ you can add missing artists and albums - there are no restrictions (just please don't add inofficial demos or bootlegs). Just use the search facility, and if the artist/album is missing, go to music db / artists / add artist to add an artist, or to the discography tab of the artist to add missing albums. ------------- https://awesomeprog.com/users/Mike" rel="nofollow">Recently listened to:
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Posted By: N Ellingworth
Date Posted: January 22 2007 at 04:57
| Yes I know, but I'm assuming that given the name of the site the database is for prog only and not say blues or classical. |
Posted By: MikeEnRegalia
Date Posted: January 22 2007 at 06:01
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^ I see - don't worry, the website is meant to focus on prog, but you can add any artist/album you like. I will add a filter which by default hides non-prog albums, and which you'll be able to tweak in your profile settings. I want my website to be useful to any music lover, not just prog fans. So while there is an emphasis on prog, the website should also be useful to fans of other genres. Classical and Dance/DJ present problems though: Classical music albums are essentially all "cover albums", meaning that you have the original composer and the performing artists (directors, musicians), and Dance/DJ music is centered on tracks, not albums. So: add any studio/live/DVD album you like, and I'll make sure that when visitors enter www.progtology.com they only get to see the prog albums until they decide to allow the rest. I'll even add a filter for tags, so that you can filter out metal albums if you're so inclined. ------------- https://awesomeprog.com/users/Mike" rel="nofollow">Recently listened to:
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Posted By: N Ellingworth
Date Posted: January 22 2007 at 06:36
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Right I'll add non prog albums when they reappear in the rotation then. About the classical problem surely you could just use the composer's name and the suite title in the database but mention different recordings in the description, may not be the best way but it makes things a lot tidier. I don't need a metal filter  |
Posted By: Trickster F.
Date Posted: January 22 2007 at 09:25
Ok, I've got a suggestion: could you please make an option to disable the time? For example, if I am absent the whole day and I come back home to insert in all the albums I've listened to, I do not want it to appear that I listened to them all at once simultaneously. I am sure most other users also don't update their sigs accuratelt, and can't, really. ------------- sig |
Posted By: MikeEnRegalia
Date Posted: January 22 2007 at 09:29
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^ the date/time is needed for sorting ... I'll rather enable you to edit the date/time, of course that's necessary.
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Posted By: N Ellingworth
Date Posted: January 22 2007 at 15:24
| After using it all day I have to say it gets easier as you get used to the system. |
Posted By: Trickster F.
Date Posted: January 22 2007 at 15:56
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Mike, in the My Signature page menu, there is a line that suggests:
Signature Images
This part is entirely optional ... if you plan to use the signature service you can enter the data here, but you can always edit it later. But I don't really see where you can upload or put a pic. ------------- sig |
Posted By: MikeEnRegalia
Date Posted: January 22 2007 at 16:32
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Unfortunately pics are a bit of a problem ... the server is located in Germany, and German law is a bit tricky when it comes to publishing pictures without knowing about their copyright situation. ------------- https://awesomeprog.com/users/Mike" rel="nofollow">Recently listened to:
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Posted By: MikeEnRegalia
Date Posted: January 22 2007 at 16:33
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BTW Trickster: Currently the first box is not shown because it is too wide - you should either reduce font size or increase the maximum signature width.
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Posted By: rileydog22
Date Posted: January 22 2007 at 18:00
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Would it be possible to add password cookies to the site, so that users are remembered and don't have to re-enter passwords? I really like the sig. Keep up the good work. ------------- |
Posted By: Trickster F.
Date Posted: January 23 2007 at 09:22
Oh, I see, Mike. By the way, it's me, Ivan (ivansfr0st was my old name) - remember, we used to be in the Prog-Metal Team together for some time(you actually invited me)? I changed nicknames some time ago.
I think I'll probably increase width.
Hm, let's see... If I make a picture on my own, say, in Paint, and don't "copyright" it - can I use it as a signature pic? ------------- sig |
Posted By: MikeEnRegalia
Date Posted: January 23 2007 at 10:04
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^ I know about the nickname change ... but what's wrong with calling you Trickster? If you prefer Ivan I'll use that, and cause some confusion for newer members who only know you by Trickster. About the images: Well, the thing is: If I enable people to upload pics, how do I know that they're free of copyright? Even if you faxed me a letter declaring the image free of copyright, I still wouldn't know for sure, because there's no way for me to know whether it is really your picture. The thing is: when asking for pics in signatures most people fancy band logos, cartoon characters etc. ... and those images are almost always copyrighted. ------------- https://awesomeprog.com/users/Mike" rel="nofollow">Recently listened to:
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Posted By: Trickster F.
Date Posted: January 23 2007 at 10:34
Sorry, I had just come to school by then and the idea that you had never noticed my nickname change immediately (and I was so knackered I wasn't even surprised) - of course, you've noticed. Damn, that was stupid.
I think calling each other by real names on the internet makes it more "alive", more natural - I do prefer to call Rico "Rico" though (or sometimes "Reco" - progressive jizz rock specialist
 ), but that's a case in point. 
Well, I won't insist then, I see the situation in your country. I just wanted to enter the Immortal guys in another terrible Paint in their genuine glory.
By the way, doesn't the sig change the ratings automatically? I listened to EoS - Crimson I today, and added it to my list. It was displayed with a 100% rating, which was obviously too much (I don't even recall giving it such an impressive value), so I changed it to 92% - it still displays the same. ------------- sig |
Posted By: MikeEnRegalia
Date Posted: January 23 2007 at 11:07
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^ about the ratings: Currently the system stores your rating of the album when you add it to the playlist. It's intentional - you can listen to the album for the first time, then rate it and add it to the playlist, and then later (when you know it better) you can compare your first listen rating to how you rate the album now. I'll make this configurable in the signature settings - and of course you'll also be able to configure whether you want the playlist signature to show ratings at all. ------------- https://awesomeprog.com/users/Mike" rel="nofollow">Recently listened to:
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Posted By: Trickster F.
Date Posted: January 23 2007 at 11:14
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All right, cool. I just think it's a too big of a fuss to rate albums once you hear them (and when I listen to music, I hardly ever feel like I should judge it on the scale - might not be the case for ours, but music and numbers are two very separable things to me) - plus, sometimes reviews disappear on your website and all the work is gone.
Changing that is a good idea. A configuration that allows you to change time would be excellent, but I'd have to remember the time I actually listened to these albums and that's the hardest part. ------------- sig |
Posted By: MikeEnRegalia
Date Posted: January 23 2007 at 11:35
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^ it doesn't have to be totally accurate - that's why I chose a "fuzzy" date/time display. People should just see whether someone listened to an album just recently, a few days ago, a few months ago etc.. ------------- https://awesomeprog.com/users/Mike" rel="nofollow">Recently listened to:
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Posted By: Trickster F.
Date Posted: January 23 2007 at 11:37
Ah, alrighty then. But if I listened to an album two months ago, wouldn't it be absent from my signature, replaced by other ones?------------- sig |
Posted By: OpethGuitarist
Date Posted: January 23 2007 at 11:38
Seems like you've been enjoying some Immortal Ivan.  ------------- back from the dead, i will begin posting reviews again and musing through the forums |
Posted By: MikeEnRegalia
Date Posted: January 23 2007 at 11:41
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^ sure, if you listened to many other albums sice then. But I'll add the same mode configuration that I now have for the last.fm signature - so you could configure your playlist signature to use the entire space for the playlist history (e.g. much more than the last 10 albums). Or you narrow down the list to Neo Prog Metal, in which case your signature would probably only show a few entries for a whole year ...
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Posted By: Trickster F.
Date Posted: January 23 2007 at 11:52
Yeah, a few entries all rated 0%-20%.
I wouldn't want to limit the displayed data in any way, I'd just like it to display whatever I play.
And oprth... Immortol rox!   ------------- sig |
Posted By: N Ellingworth
Date Posted: January 24 2007 at 08:41
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One question: is it possible to remove albums from the playlist? I accidentally clicked the add to playlist button twice for one album
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Posted By: MikeEnRegalia
Date Posted: January 24 2007 at 09:01
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^ I deleted one of the entries for you ... soon you'll have a "delete" button on the Tools -> Playlist page.
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Posted By: N Ellingworth
Date Posted: January 24 2007 at 09:04
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Thanks, good to know that you'll be adding a delete function.
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Posted By: progismylife
Date Posted: January 27 2007 at 07:34
| Hey Mike I like this new signature! It is really cool. It also means you don't ahve to be listening on the computer for it to be put on the sig! I like it a lot! |
Posted By: MikeEnRegalia
Date Posted: January 27 2007 at 15:34
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^ yes, that was my main motivation to implement it ... my last.fm profile shows only 30% of what I'm listening to. Another big difference is that it is based on albums, not tracks ... that makes it less cumbersome to use, and more suitable for prog and jazz.
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Posted By: progismylife
Date Posted: January 27 2007 at 15:39
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Do you have any more ingenious sigs?
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Posted By: MikeEnRegalia
Date Posted: January 27 2007 at 16:07
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^ favorite albums, favorite artists, favorite epics, recent purchases, album playlist. Feel free to suggest any other types of lists. ------------- https://awesomeprog.com/users/Mike" rel="nofollow">Recently listened to:
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Posted By: progismylife
Date Posted: January 27 2007 at 16:18
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Favorite genre maybe? |
Posted By: progismylife
Date Posted: January 27 2007 at 17:06
| Maybe genre most often played? |
Posted By: progismylife
Date Posted: January 27 2007 at 17:07
| Dammit those are the same thing! |
Posted By: rileydog22
Date Posted: January 27 2007 at 21:29
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Progismylife listens to 13 times as much rush as anything else! That RULES!
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Posted By: progismylife
Date Posted: January 27 2007 at 21:31
Soon to be 14. That is as soon as I'm done with this album. |
Posted By: progismylife
Date Posted: January 27 2007 at 21:31
And I've been listening to music ever since I woke up, so that is a lot of music right there. |
Posted By: N Ellingworth
Date Posted: January 28 2007 at 02:57
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Aren't you afraid that you might get bored of Rush? Now getting back on topic: I do like the other fonts available |
Posted By: progismylife
Date Posted: January 28 2007 at 05:00
Get bored of Rush? Me!?!?!? Outrageous. I've been listening to Rush all week, literally. I only just started using the albums signature yesterday (for me that is I don't know about you) Back On Topic: I found some fonts on the web that are the fonts from Rush albums. Do you think you could add these Mike? There is a link to the website in my Rush fonts thread in Help Us Improve The Site section. |
Posted By: N Ellingworth
Date Posted: January 28 2007 at 05:43
I've been using it for a few days now and if you aren't careful you will get bored of Rush, it happened to me a couple of years ago with Led Zeppelin and nearly happened with Porcupine Tree a couple of months ago.  |
Posted By: rileydog22
Date Posted: January 28 2007 at 12:50
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I think Progismylife should change his username to Rushismylife.
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Posted By: rileydog22
Date Posted: January 28 2007 at 21:20
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Mike, in addition to top artists and weekly artists, perhaps a top albums column could be added to the album playlist sig?
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Posted By: rileydog22
Date Posted: February 15 2007 at 20:22
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Guys, join Mike's site! It has huge potential, but right now the membership isn't high enough. The site is like this one, only a lot more open ended. Think WikiProgarchives; if you want to add an album, go ahead. If you think that the genre tags on something should be changed, go ahead. It's a very cool idea, it just needs your help!
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