2007 Hall of Fame Inductees Announced
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Topic: 2007 Hall of Fame Inductees Announced
Posted By: 1800iareyay
Subject: 2007 Hall of Fame Inductees Announced
Date Posted: January 09 2007 at 16:56
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The 2007 Rock and Roll Hall of Fame Inductees
Patti Smith- punk legend Grandmaster Flash and the Furious Five- 1st rap inductee The Ronettes- token oldies group R.E.M.- alt. rock giant Van Halen- finally admitted It seems that the hall of fame is beginning to embrace the genres they ignore. Metal entered last year with Sabbath. Now rap is in with Grandmaster Flash. Is prog next? The problem is there are no metal inductees this year (I view VH as hard rock. Glaring ommissions from hall of fame: Deep Purple- why are they not in? Genesis- one of top 30 selling artists of all time, that alone should secure a spot Yes- also sold a lot for prog band, hugely influential Link Wray- proto punk and metal, widely credited with the first use of the power chord Love- not commercially successful, but hugely influential Journey- many radio hits as well as one of the greatest singers in rock MC5- proto-punk band that introduced a militant mentality to war protests (pause for irony) Iron Maiden- one of the few important bands from the 80s that meets the 25 year minimum "age" to be considered, hugely influential and commercially successful for a non-pop metal band. Judas Priest- same credentials as Maiden Jethro Tull- kings of prog-folk, the most commercially and critically successful prog folk band Screamin' Jay Hawkins- instead of token oldies inductions, why not the man who pioneered theatricality in rock. Alice Cooper, KISS, and a host of others owe this man a debt Alice Cooper- pioneer of shock rock, which older voters will not take seriously. However, he is a huge concert draw and relatively successful both commercially and critically. The only real qualification is that a band cannot be considered until 25 years after the release of its debut album. So, why haven't these bands been inducted? |
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Posted By: The T
Date Posted: January 09 2007 at 22:35
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prog will never be inducted 'cause it doesn't sell. The closest we'll get is when the induct Peter gabriel, but for his solo work it will be. Prog has no drug-deaths like "rock-stars" usually have and the press so loves, prog has usually no "attitude" towards the system, prog has no larger-than-life egotistical figures, prog is a music made FOR MUSIC's SAKE, and that doesn't go well with the industry. Disclaimer: these are not entirely original ideas, but are entirely true.
Believe me, I'm not losing any sleep because of prog not being inducted. Yes and Genesis will get there by 2057, after Korn and Papa Roach. ------------- 
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Posted By: Philéas
Date Posted: January 10 2007 at 07:10
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Does it matter? |
Posted By: Freak
Date Posted: January 10 2007 at 15:54
What a strange attitude to bring to a thread. Peace on Earth and mercy mild.
 Anyway, R.E.M. definitely - I'd thought they had been inducted last year! Those guys have delivered plenty of stellar albums, from Automatic For The People to Murmur. ------------- 
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Philéas wrote:Posted By: Chicapah
Date Posted: January 11 2007 at 11:55
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I think the hall of fame voters consider Progressive Rock the autistic cousin who no one wants to talk about or acknowledge. Genesis should have been inducted years ago. ------------- "Literature is well enough, as a time-passer, and for the improvement and general elevation and purification of mankind, but it has no practical value" - Mark Twain |
Posted By: progismylife
Date Posted: January 11 2007 at 11:59
| I remember seeing a petition on the internet to get Rush into the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame. Needless to say I signed it about 50 times under many different names. |
Posted By: bhikkhu
Date Posted: January 11 2007 at 12:12
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I agree with all of your choices, except Love. I had never heard of them until Rolling Stone published that 500 greatest pop albums issue. Aside from that, I see them referenced here by members once in a great while. Obviously they didn't sell many albums, but what makes them so influential? I have never heard any artist referencing them as an influence. ------------- a.k.a. H.T. http://riekels.wordpress.com" rel="nofollow - http://riekels.wordpress.com |
Posted By: The T
Date Posted: January 11 2007 at 15:44
Right on the point. -------------
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Posted By: Raff
Date Posted: January 11 2007 at 15:52
For the second time today, I have to respond with a sonorous "Hear, hear!" to something you wrote...  Who cares about the Hall of Fame? Does it affect our enjoyment of music or what? We know how these things work, and we should know better than to get p***ed off about that. |
Posted By: micky
Date Posted: January 11 2007 at 22:02
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I've heard people in the know say that the prog band with the best chance to break the barrier is of all groups... ELP.
------------- The Pedro and Micky Experience - When one no longer requires psychotropics to trip |
Posted By: The T
Date Posted: January 11 2007 at 22:08
Three things: 1. Incredible that a band with such complex music would be considered. 2. Incredible that a band that's the subject of lots of bashing and ridicule by the "music industry and media" could be the one selected BY THAT SAME INDUSTRY; it shows the hipocrisy, but is easily explainable by, 3. ELP was one of the top sellers in the prog-gold-era, so that's why. Like everything in the music/whore-industry, it's decided by MONEY. -------------
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Posted By: Bern
Date Posted: January 11 2007 at 22:10
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From those you suggested, the one that surprises me is Deep Purple. I'm not a big fan but I can't see why they aren't included. They were good sellers. They had big hits. They were not prog...
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Posted By: micky
Date Posted: January 11 2007 at 22:20
not to mention ELP ...sh*t.. let's face it. represent all that was loved AND hated about prog. They.. not Yes, or King Crimson and sure as hell not Genesis were the face of Prog in the 70's. Have noted before, I have two friends, a few years older than me who were old enough to check out these artists in their prime. They both state, unequilavably and ..independently as well hahah.. that the ELP tour of 1974 was THE single best concert they saw of the 70's. That includes the Floyd tours.. Zeppelin...even.. and I was surprised by this.. even the Who. They were huge and hated by the press.. hell yeah.. what better way to slap prog by inducting the one band that still is on worst band lists today  It's a longshot.. hell all the prog bands are. But I think ELP would be the first one to be inducted. ------------- The Pedro and Micky Experience - When one no longer requires psychotropics to trip |
Posted By: micky
Date Posted: January 11 2007 at 22:21
ouch... those are fighting words around AR Headquarters.... ------------- The Pedro and Micky Experience - When one no longer requires psychotropics to trip |
Posted By: Bern
Date Posted: January 11 2007 at 22:24
 My post sounds offensive to Deep Purple right? I like 'em and I don't deny they had prog moments. I'm just saying they aren't remembered and seen as a prog band by anybody. That's why the "prog factor" can't explain why they aren't included yet. -------------
RIP in bossa nova heaven. |
Posted By: micky
Date Posted: January 11 2007 at 22:29
that's why they remastered and re-released the Mk.1 line-up albums. That phase had sort of fallen through the cracks.. and that is why we are here... to correct the errors in people's ways hahahha. Have a good night Bern.... off to get some well needed sleep. ------------- The Pedro and Micky Experience - When one no longer requires psychotropics to trip |
Posted By: Chris H
Date Posted: January 11 2007 at 22:31
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I don't see how a rapper is being inducted into the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame, but that's just me. Van Halen, not a big fan, but man its about time they got in!
And you gotta love R.E.M., one of my favourites. ------------- Beauty will save the world. 
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Posted By: The T
Date Posted: January 11 2007 at 23:20
I missed that... you're right... that proves my point further: this "hall of fame" crap is just, well, that, crap. "music industry" crap, a well-thought way of promoting music without actually advertising (the ceremony will take care of that)... great, a RAPPER in the ROCK hall of fame... I hope, when they announce the HIPHOP Hall of Fame Inductees, they include The Beatles... -------------
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Posted By: Atavachron
Date Posted: January 11 2007 at 23:32
| I have very little doubt a prog band will be included sooner than later, I'd guess within five years. ELP? Maybe, but I'd think Tull because they're as well known, still together, and appeal to a wider group of people. |
Posted By: Ivan_Melgar_M
Date Posted: January 11 2007 at 23:39
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Amazing, inducting a rapper to the ROCK & ROLL Hall of fame it's like giving the Nobel Prize of Medicine to a novelist that writes best sellers.
No relation, Rap is not Rock, I believe somebody should tell this morons that you should at least play Rock to be inducted.
They should change the name to "Best Selling Doesn't Matter What Genre Hall of Fame" because it's not a Rock hall anymore.
Who's next...Ricky Martin?
Iván ------------- 
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Posted By: Atavachron
Date Posted: January 11 2007 at 23:45
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This is beginning to sound like a PA argument about which bands are prog enough to be here
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Posted By: Ivan_Melgar_M
Date Posted: January 11 2007 at 23:51
No, it's simple, you can't induct Pele to the Beisball Hall of Fame no matter how good he was because HE NEVER PLAYED BEISBALL.
For the same reason you can't induct a rap artist who doesn't play Rock to the Rock & Roll Hall of Fame.
It's illogical and absurd.
Iván -------------
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Posted By: ViolinCyndee
Date Posted: January 12 2007 at 01:50
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Spacerock will never be included... ------------- http://cdbaby.com/cd/cyndeeleerule www.cyndeeleerule.com |
Posted By: tuxon
Date Posted: January 12 2007 at 02:31
They would need a bigger hall ------------- I'm always almost unlucky _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ Id5ZcnjXSZaSMFMC Id5LM2q2jfqz3YxT |
Posted By: darren
Date Posted: January 12 2007 at 06:25
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If any prog band makes it, it would be Pink Floyd. Not just prog lovers but stoners as well, not to mention the years of being on the top 500 list.
Come to think of it, I don't think most prog bands will make it. They want to induct bands that will show up and maybe play... and sell tickets, a lot of Hall of Fame T- Shirts, souvenir books, etc. The suits obviously want a rock and roll EVENT (you know, like the last couple of Woodstock "events"). Why else would they induct Madonna?
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Posted By: The T
Date Posted: January 12 2007 at 12:15
But there's a logic to that (at least in their eyes): rap exposure in Rock Hall of Fame = better sells for everyone involved not that quality or adherence to a genre matters anyway... I've heard the HIPHOP Hall and Fame next inductees are Run DMC, N234 and Genesis -------------
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Posted By: Ghandi 2
Date Posted: January 12 2007 at 15:04
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Pink Floyd are already in the hall of fame, so the "barrier" has already been broken.
Inducting a rapper is just stupid, just like the couple Jazz people they have in there. |
Posted By: 1800iareyay
Date Posted: January 12 2007 at 18:04
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Though I don't like the idea of rap entering the rock hall of fame, I could see a few making it. Public Enemy's punk attitude as well as sampling metal and collaborating with rockers. They have as much business in there as so many of the jazz artists.
If my post came off as remorseful and/or enraged that certain high caliber bands were not inducted, that wasn't my intention. I was merely happy that Van Halen and REM got a nod, and pointed out a few bands that should have entered a long time ago. I too will lose no sleep over Purple's and Genesis' exclusion from what hsa become a building of irony, where the music industry visibly shows how it has tamed the once rebellious rock into a cash-cow complete with cookie-cutter bands who all sell millions of albums because the United States has miserably failed the War on Drugs. Huh, come to think of it, guess I am a little mad
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Posted By: The T
Date Posted: January 12 2007 at 18:37
I don't blame you. The reasons are there, you explained them. -------------
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