Countries of the United Kingdom
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Topic: Countries of the United Kingdom
Posted By: Easy Livin
Subject: Countries of the United Kingdom
Date Posted: January 09 2007 at 14:36
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Many of the bands listed on the site shown as emanating from England, Scotland and Wales actually contain members from two or sometimes all three countries. Marillion (Fish era) and Gentle Giant are two bands which come to mind straight away.
The present separate listings for these countries has therefore been abolished in favour of a single entry for the United Kingdom. Any bands from Northern Ireland would of course also appear under United Kingdom.
No change to the forum countries.
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Posted By: eugene
Date Posted: January 09 2007 at 14:43
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Sounds sensible to me.
However it was interesting to know for exmple that Gnidrolog originated in Wales, although one of Goldring brothers is now council of Lewisham (?), which is borough of London, I guess.
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Posted By: Snow Dog
Date Posted: January 09 2007 at 14:59
Shame.
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Posted By: Easy Livin
Date Posted: January 09 2007 at 16:51
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I understand SD. In fact there was very little maintenance to be done for the change in terms of reassigning bands.
The intermingling of the home country races meant that the current tags were inaccurate and confusing. Many of the bands should in reality have been multinational!
 The biographies can of course be updated to specify the country of the UK where required, although i think many will already do so.
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Posted By: Atkingani
Date Posted: January 09 2007 at 16:59
Fine! And if it's noticeable and distinguished, like Gnidrolog or Beggar's Opera, bios may inform their backgrounds.
 Final votation at the Admin Team was:
- United Kingdom - 4 votes
- Bolton - 1 vote
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Easy Livin wrote:Posted By: progismylife
Date Posted: January 09 2007 at 17:01
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I think Snow Dog was talking about "one of Goldring brothers is now council of Lewisham (?), which is borough of London, I guess." When they are from Wales. I like the Untied Kingdom idea.  |
Posted By: Snow Dog
Date Posted: January 09 2007 at 17:56
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^^ No, I meant shame about the change. Only the other day I used toe old system to find Scottish bands. I'll never be able to do that again. ------------- http://www.last.fm/user/Snow_Dog" rel="nofollow">
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Posted By: Tony R
Date Posted: January 09 2007 at 18:21
Lucky escape then...are there any decent Scottish bands? 
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Posted By: stonebeard
Date Posted: January 09 2007 at 18:23
PALLAS!!!!  ------------- http://soundcloud.com/drewagler" rel="nofollow - My soundcloud. Please give feedback if you want! |
Posted By: Mandrakeroot
Date Posted: January 09 2007 at 18:26
BEGGARS OPERA in 70's!!! ------------- 
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Posted By: Snow Dog
Date Posted: January 09 2007 at 18:28
^^^^ You can see here for yourself Tony. No! ------------- http://www.last.fm/user/Snow_Dog" rel="nofollow">
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Posted By: Tony R
Date Posted: January 09 2007 at 18:34
And the great Prog bands from Cambria..? 
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Posted By: Snow Dog
Date Posted: January 09 2007 at 18:39
Magenta?
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Posted By: Empathy
Date Posted: January 09 2007 at 23:09
MacArthur's Park is melting in the dark All the sweet, green icing flowing down Someone left the cake out in the rain I don't think that I can take it 'Cause it took so long to bake it And I'll never have that recipe again Oh, no!  ------------- Pure Brilliance: 
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Posted By: chopper
Date Posted: January 10 2007 at 13:36
Slik? Bay City Rollers? Deacon Blue? |
Posted By: Snow Dog
Date Posted: January 10 2007 at 13:37
Wet Wet Wet? ------------- http://www.last.fm/user/Snow_Dog" rel="nofollow">
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Posted By: Jared
Date Posted: January 10 2007 at 13:41
Yes, I seem to recall that Art Rock band 'Jump' have a lead singer from Bangor (North Wales) a Bassist (?) from the Welsh Valleys and 4 other members, mostly from the home counties..
...very confusing.... ------------- Music has always been a matter of energy to me. On some nights I believe that a car with the needle on empty can run 50 more miles if you have the right music very loud on the radio. Hunter S Thompson |
Posted By: Jared
Date Posted: January 10 2007 at 13:42
Big Country? The Proclaimers? ------------- Music has always been a matter of energy to me. On some nights I believe that a car with the needle on empty can run 50 more miles if you have the right music very loud on the radio. Hunter S Thompson |
Posted By: Snow Dog
Date Posted: January 10 2007 at 13:43
Presumably they all had names and different faces so that they could tell each other apart.  ------------- http://www.last.fm/user/Snow_Dog" rel="nofollow">
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Posted By: Snow Dog
Date Posted: January 10 2007 at 13:44
The McDonald Brothers.......  ------------- http://www.last.fm/user/Snow_Dog" rel="nofollow">
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Posted By: Wilcey
Date Posted: January 10 2007 at 13:46
Hmmm........yeah, I am looking forward to seeing that proud Welshman sing the part of a proud Scotsman surrounded by a group of Englishmen in a couple of weeks........ 
(Script gig Swindon) P-C |
Posted By: Jared
Date Posted: January 10 2007 at 13:49
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^^^ as long as he doesn't wear a kilt, P-C; I don't think JDJ should share his legs with the audience... ------------- Music has always been a matter of energy to me. On some nights I believe that a car with the needle on empty can run 50 more miles if you have the right music very loud on the radio. Hunter S Thompson |
Posted By: progismylife
Date Posted: January 10 2007 at 13:50
| Where is the list that shows you bands by country? I can't find it! |
Posted By: Snow Dog
Date Posted: January 10 2007 at 13:53
Find a band and click on country. ------------- http://www.last.fm/user/Snow_Dog" rel="nofollow">
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Posted By: andu
Date Posted: January 10 2007 at 14:01
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in the search box of the menu from the home page, you type the country and it will show you all the bands registered from that country.
------------- "PA's own GI Joe!" 
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Posted By: Norm Cash
Date Posted: January 10 2007 at 14:48
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While I understand the rationale, I'm not so sure that it was all that
confusing a concept. Although members may be "multi-national", I think
its fair to say that most bands have tended to be reasonably comfortable
with their "association" to a particular country. Despite Tony R's disparaging remarks , it's particularly bad for bands or artists who ARE "pure-bred" (so to speak). Just this week, I've been checking out the music of Marc Carlton, a Scottish musician featured here on PA. Had it not been for his "Scotland" tag, it's unlikely that I would have clicked on his link.I'm disappointed in this move.  Glenn Glasgow, Scotland ------------- 
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Posted By: Visitor13
Date Posted: January 10 2007 at 15:11
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Posted By: Tony R
Date Posted: January 10 2007 at 15:19
it was the idea of a Scotsman initially.... I guess if we were to get lots of genuine complaints with balanced, well argued reasoning then possibly,we might reconsider...IMO. |
Posted By: Easy Livin
Date Posted: January 10 2007 at 16:05
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Comments noted. It does mean though that Fish's Marillion era is not now under England, and that gentle Giant are more accurately reflected for example.
As long as the nationality is mentioned in the biography, a search on the home page will find the reference to it.
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Posted By: PROGMAN
Date Posted: January 12 2007 at 09:02
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I prefer the seperate countries (Wales, England and Scotland), but bands like Marillion do have mixed UK nationalities, so I guess having seperate UK countries and a whole United Kingdom, option did seem odd at the time, even I didn't understand that first time round.
Question: If a band is from Northern Ireland would they be placed under "United Kingdom" or "Ireland".
Because there is a United Kingdom option I guess the Channel Islands and Isle of Man could count as "United Kingdom"
(But I've read in some encyclopaedias that the Channel Islands are not scrictly UK island, as the islands have there own laws and stuff). ------------- CYMRU AM BYTH 
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Posted By: Easy Livin
Date Posted: January 12 2007 at 10:51
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Northern Irish bands would come under UK, Republic of Ireland would be Ireland. Don't ask about what we'd do they are a mixture of both!
I think we'll worry about the Channel Islands etc. if they ever produce a prog band!
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Posted By: Sean Trane
Date Posted: January 12 2007 at 11:16
The Pentangle, Clive Original Band, Incredible String Band, String Driven Thing, Donovan and many more. Scotland's major contribution has through folk rock.
Have anyone mentioned NAZARETH, also?
I understand this Snowie, but this was not done by an ugly occupying limey force.
It was done by a Scott, who is a brother in fighting them Saxon and Angles out of your hills.
But really , this is like in sports, I do not see why Scotland , Wales, NI and England get to send out a team each (After the all the real official country is know as UK >> even inside the EEC), while France cannot sent a Britany, Alsace and Corsican teams or Spain with a Catalonian, A Basque and and Galician team. ------------- let's just stay above the moral melee prefer the sink to the gutter keep our sand-castle virtues content to be a doer as well as a thinker, prefer lifting our pen rather than un-sheath our sword |
Posted By: Atkingani
Date Posted: January 12 2007 at 11:22
In the Olympics they go GBR, the letters that identify The United Kingdom...  ------------- Guigo ~~~~~~ |
Posted By: Sean Trane
Date Posted: January 12 2007 at 11:26
GBR means Great Britain and normally does not include NOrth Ireland.
United Kingdom does as well as the the Channel islands (Jersey, Guernsey, Sark) and Man.
But my remarks apply to team sports like Rugby and Football. ------------- let's just stay above the moral melee prefer the sink to the gutter keep our sand-castle virtues content to be a doer as well as a thinker, prefer lifting our pen rather than un-sheath our sword |
Posted By: Atkingani
Date Posted: January 12 2007 at 11:37
Yep, for some reason the IOC uses GBR instead of UNK or UKI or any other group of 3 letters...  ------------- Guigo ~~~~~~ |
Posted By: Mandrakeroot
Date Posted: January 12 2007 at 16:05
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I approve this change. In fact the divisions are only administrative and in the sports. But if talks about nation to the hour it is just the change have done. And I approve.
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Posted By: Politician
Date Posted: January 13 2007 at 15:14
Definitely not. The Channel Isles and the Isle of Man (where I live) are not part of the United Kingdom, and never have been. |
Posted By: Dick Heath
Date Posted: January 23 2007 at 09:21
Decent?
We have a band of Scots running the UK cabinet and far from decent most would agree - when they have a perfectly good (?) Scottish parliament too. ------------- The best eclectic music on the Web,8-11pm BST/GMT THURS. CLICK ON: http://www.lborosu.org.uk/media/lcr/live.php - http://www.lborosu.org.uk/media/lcr/live.php Host by PA's Dick Heath. |
Posted By: Easy Livin
Date Posted: January 23 2007 at 14:28
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Your name has been noted Mr Heath.
(Any relation to Ted by the way?)
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