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Topic: The Terabyte Hardrive
Posted By: Scapler
Subject: The Terabyte Hardrive
Date Posted: January 06 2007 at 12:52
Hitachi Global Storage Technologies is releasing a 3.5-inch diameter 1 terabyte hard drive for desktop computers sometime during the first quarter. As a reference, the Library of Congress has 10 terabytes of information, and according the the library's website:
"It is also the largest library in the world, with more than 130 million items on approximately 530 miles of bookshelves. The collections include more than 29 million books and other printed materials, 2.7 million recordings, 12 million photographs, 4.8 million maps, and 58 million manuscripts."

The hard drive will have enough to store 250,000 mp3s of average length. It has enough memory to store and playback two years of music without ever repeating a song.




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Posted By: laplace
Date Posted: January 06 2007 at 12:58
that's almost big enough to contain all the hawkwind bootlegs in existence.

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Posted By: chamberry
Date Posted: January 06 2007 at 13:07
How many Gigabites does one Terrabite has?

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Posted By: The Wizard
Date Posted: January 06 2007 at 13:09

That's beautiful.



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Posted By: Cygnus X-2
Date Posted: January 06 2007 at 13:11
Originally posted by chamberry chamberry wrote:

How many Gigabites does one Terrabite has?

About a thousand or so.Wink


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Posted By: chamberry
Date Posted: January 06 2007 at 13:19
Originally posted by Cygnus X-2 Cygnus X-2 wrote:

Originally posted by chamberry chamberry wrote:

How many Gigabites does one Terrabite has?

About a thousand or so.Wink


And I thought that was big, when I looked up the definition of the prefix I was even more shocked!

Tera = trillion Shocked!


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Posted By: Fitzcarraldo
Date Posted: January 06 2007 at 13:31
Originally posted by laplace laplace wrote:

that's almost big enough to contain all the hawkwind bootlegs in existence.



     

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Posted By: bhikkhu
Date Posted: January 06 2007 at 13:39
Originally posted by laplace laplace wrote:

that's almost big enough to contain all the hawkwind bootlegs in existence.

    
Or Beatles compilations.

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Posted By: darksinger
Date Posted: January 06 2007 at 17:09
Originally posted by laplace laplace wrote:

that's almost big enough to contain all the hawkwind bootlegs in existence.
 
and that's not counting the solo material and splinter bandsLOL


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Posted By: Angelo
Date Posted: January 06 2007 at 17:43
Originally posted by chamberry chamberry wrote:

Originally posted by Cygnus X-2 Cygnus X-2 wrote:

Originally posted by chamberry chamberry wrote:

How many Gigabites does one Terrabite has?

About a thousand or so.Wink


And I thought that was big, when I looked up the definition of the prefix I was even more shocked!

Tera = trillion Shocked!


Note that the reference to the library of congress in the first post is nice, but have you consider storages of e.g. digital medical images, like XRay and MRI? These things have to be kept on file for periods of 20 years up to patient life time depending on local laws. People working on PACS (Picture Archiving and Communications Systems) for this environment have been looking at peta bytes of storage for the past few years already. They'd be glad to have this type of disc, of course in redundant configurations.
A cardiology example: one Xray examination consists of up to 10 5-10 second runs, at 15-30 frames per second, and each frame is a 1024x1024x16 pixel bitmap at least. Lossy compression is not allowed, and framesizes of 2048x2048x16 or even larger are being used already.

EDIT: One Cardio XRay machine is used on 4-8 patients per day, 5 days a week for 50 weeks per year - now do the math Wink

Here's what wikipedia lists on definitions of size.





















10006 1018 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Exa - exa E http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quintillion - Quintillion http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trillion - Trillion 1 000 000 000 000 000 000
10005 1015 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peta_%28prefix%29 - peta P http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quadrillion - Quadrillion http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Billiard_%28number%29 - Billiard (thousand billion) 1 000 000 000 000 000
10004 1012 tera T http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trillion - Trillion http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Billion - Billion 1 000 000 000 000








































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Posted By: Tony R
Date Posted: January 06 2007 at 17:49
A Terabyte is a 1024 GB.


Posted By: Angelo
Date Posted: January 06 2007 at 17:53
Originally posted by Tony R Tony R wrote:

A Terabyte is a 1024 GB.


Yup, although formally that is a tebi-byte (2^40, tera-byte would be 1000^4) Wink


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Posted By: Scapler
Date Posted: January 06 2007 at 18:32
Originally posted by Angelo Angelo wrote:

Originally posted by chamberry chamberry wrote:

Originally posted by Cygnus X-2 Cygnus X-2 wrote:

Originally posted by chamberry chamberry wrote:

How many Gigabites does one Terrabite has?

About a thousand or so.Wink


And I thought that was big, when I looked up the definition of the prefix I was even more shocked!

Tera = trillion Shocked!


Note that the reference to the library of congress in the first post is nice, but have you consider storages of e.g. digital medical images, like XRay and MRI? These things have to be kept on file for periods of 20 years up to patient life time depending on local laws. People working on PACS (Picture Archiving and Communications Systems) for this environment have been looking at peta bytes of storage for the past few years already. They'd be glad to have this type of disc, of course in redundant configurations.
A cardiology example: one Xray examination consists of up to 10 5-10 second runs, at 15-30 frames per second, and each frame is a 1024x1024x16 pixel bitmap at least. Lossy compression is not allowed, and framesizes of 2048x2048x16 or even larger are being used already.

EDIT: One Cardio XRay machine is used on 4-8 patients per day, 5 days a week for 50 weeks per year - now do the math Wink

Here's what wikipedia lists on definitions of size.





















10006 1018 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Exa - exa E http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quintillion - Quintillion http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trillion - Trillion 1 000 000 000 000 000 000
10005 1015 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peta_%28prefix%29 - peta P http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quadrillion - Quadrillion http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Billiard_%28number%29 - Billiard (thousand billion) 1 000 000 000 000 000
10004 1012 tera T http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trillion - Trillion http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Billion - Billion 1 000 000 000 000






































 
The professional community has had terabyte storage systems befoire this, this hardrive is just the first commercial one
 
 


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Posted By: Philéas
Date Posted: January 06 2007 at 19:17
I will probably need one of those in the near future, as the amount of music on my current harddrive is growing rapidly. 


Posted By: Logos
Date Posted: January 06 2007 at 19:23
That actually doesn't seem that large when I think about it.

Which is weird, because it really is. Just goes to show how fast these things are developing. I have a 200GB harddrive at the moment which seems pretty standard these days.


Posted By: marktheshark
Date Posted: January 06 2007 at 19:57
This will be mostly useful for servers, backups etc. For home, the damn thing will fail from age by the time you get anywhere near to filling half of it.

It will certainly relieve some of the IT techs from having to constantly do different RAID configurations on the servers.


Posted By: Tony R
Date Posted: January 06 2007 at 20:03
Originally posted by marktheshark marktheshark wrote:

This will be mostly useful for servers, backups etc. For home, the damn thing will fail from age by the time you get anywhere near to filling half of it.

It will certainly relieve some of the IT techs from having to constantly do different RAID configurations on the servers.

    
I currently have nearly 800gb of music shared between 3 external hard drives....

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Posted By: Jimbo
Date Posted: January 06 2007 at 20:40
Honestly, does anyone really need a terabyte harddrive? Don't think so.

I think it's ridiculous that nowadays people seem to have huge amounts of (useless) data/music on their computer. 10-100 gb should be entirely sufficient to most people, but instead of settling for that, they download huge amounts of music they're never going to listen to. A friend of mine has 250gb of music on his computer, and despite being an avid music listener, he just admitted the other day that he's never listened to at least half of them. Maybe it's just me, but the whole phenomenon seems silly and completely pointless.


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Posted By: Philéas
Date Posted: January 06 2007 at 20:51
Originally posted by Jimbo Jimbo wrote:

Honestly, does anyone really need a terabyte harddrive? Don't think so.

I think it's ridiculous that nowadays people seem to have huge amounts of (useless) data/music on their computer. 10-100 gb should be entirely sufficient to most people, but instead of settling for that, they download huge amounts of music they're never going to listen to. A friend of mine has 250gb of music on his computer, and despite being an avid music listener, he just admitted the other day that he's never listened to at least half of them. Maybe it's just me, but the whole phenomenon seems silly and completely pointless.


I listen to everything I download, and if I realize I don't I delete it from my harddrive. I have friends who have tons of music they haven't heard though.


Posted By: MikeEnRegalia
Date Posted: January 06 2007 at 21:20
Originally posted by Philéas Philéas wrote:

I will probably need one of those in the near future, as the amount of music on my current harddrive is growing rapidly. 


Have you ever considered ... deleting some of the files which you never listen to?ShockedWink


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Posted By: N Ellingworth
Date Posted: January 07 2007 at 02:54
I've got a neighbour who given half a chance would be able to fill a terabyte hard drive solely with morally questionable content from certain pay to view websites. Wink

I reckon I could fill one of them quite easily as well because I'm a gamer and the size of some games is ridiculously large, for example Microsoft Flight Simulator 10 takes up 13 Gb of memory. Stern Smile


Posted By: JrKASperov
Date Posted: January 07 2007 at 06:00
Originally posted by Jimbo Jimbo wrote:

Honestly, does anyone really need a terabyte harddrive? Don't think so.

I think it's ridiculous that nowadays people seem to have huge amounts of (useless) data/music on their computer. 10-100 gb should be entirely sufficient to most people, but instead of settling for that, they download huge amounts of music they're never going to listen to. A friend of mine has 250gb of music on his computer, and despite being an avid music listener, he just admitted the other day that he's never listened to at least half of them. Maybe it's just me, but the whole phenomenon seems silly and completely pointless.


Well not if you just store music. But games nowadays are a whole different story. You'd think BG1 was big in the old days which took up about 3Gb in space. Well guess what! Oblivion, for example, is 5Gb and NWN2 is 6! You can imagine that having just 5 such games on your pc already cost you 30Gb. Not to mention probable mods and savegames(which take up a lot of space too: NWN1: 50 mb per save). That would be almost a third of a 100Gb drive. Then account for music and program files and about a quarter of your HD free so you can defragment; a 100 Gb drive gets choked up quite fast.


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Posted By: Philéas
Date Posted: January 07 2007 at 08:16
Originally posted by MikeEnRegalia MikeEnRegalia wrote:



Have you ever considered ... deleting some of the files which you never listen to?ShockedWink


See my post above this one ^ Wink


Posted By: Angelo
Date Posted: January 07 2007 at 08:57
Originally posted by Scapler Scapler wrote:

 
The professional community has had terabyte storage systems befoire this, this hardrive is just the first commercial one
 
 


Not really the first system, but definitely the first commercially available terabyte single disk. I'm pretty much satisfied with my internal 120GB and external 250GB though (120 for dual boot Windows/Linux, 250 is half music, half technical documentation for my job).


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Posted By: goose
Date Posted: January 10 2007 at 18:40
Originally posted by Jimbo Jimbo wrote:

Honestly, does anyone really need a terabyte harddrive? Don't think so.I think it's ridiculous that nowadays people seem to have huge amounts of (useless) data/music on their computer. 10-100 gb should be entirely sufficient to most people, but instead of settling for that, they download huge amounts of music they're never going to listen to. A friend of mine has 250gb of music on his computer, and despite being an avid music listener, he just admitted the other day that he's never listened to at least half of them. Maybe it's just me, but the whole phenomenon seems silly and completely pointless.

    At somewhere upwards of 10GB to back up a multitrack recording of one song, I pretty much do need all the space I can get



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