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Topic: Art
Posted By: Joren
Subject: Art
Date Posted: March 12 2004 at 13:23
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I only like modern (20th century) art myself. I really like surrealism (Magritte, Miro, Dali). I went to the museum of Miro and the museum of Dali in Spain, it was fantastic! Some paintings I like: René Magritte, Portrait of Edward James (La Reproduction Interdit) (1937)
Miro, [sorry, I can't find the name and date]
I also like Gottfried Helnweins work (mixed media, paintings, photographs). It's very dark and sometimes even pretty sick and scary Gottfried Helnwein, Modern Sleep II (1989)
Gottfried Helnwein, Roter Mund (Red Mouth) (1978)
 He also made some very funny, but still dark, works:
Gottfried Helnwein, Dark Hour (2003)
 Well, of course, music is THE BEST! http://spicerack.sr.unh.edu/~dvf/Pathways/Dali.jpg -
 But what do you think? |
I was wondering if anyone here is interested in art (apart from Roger Dean 
, but I think it is very impressive. (he also made some artwork for Rammstein and Marilyn Manson)
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Posted By: Dan Bobrowski
Date Posted: March 12 2004 at 13:55
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I love art. There are as many forms of art as there are Prog genres. Some I like, some I don't care for. Each to his own preference. I enjoy surrealism the most. Dali was a genius. Some cyber art is very interesting. Bill Ellsworth does some computer art, such the cover for A Night for Baku (Djam Karet). Very ethereal. Of course there is another side of art which looks like someone stuck a paintbrush in their arse and had a coughing fit......... |
Posted By: Tauhd Zaļa
Date Posted: March 13 2004 at 04:34
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I love art too (and not only Dean You pointed out René Magritte. Our family (not only me) love him Hereafter is in my opinion his best work :
It is the only picture I would like to show here because I think the webmasters will don't apreciate a lot of pictures. I like very much too : Klee, Klint, Money Van Gogh and all the "Impressionistes, Matisse, Flemish School (Pieter Brueghel, Van Eyck...), Bosh, Ethnic art (mainlty australian aborigenous art) and the drawings of my children I have discover a link of curious fractal pictures, maybe usefull for CD covers (compilations, home music): http://www.eplumsystem.com/fine08.shtml - http://www.eplumsystem.com/fine08.shtml
------------- The State Of Grace Is Achieved |
Posted By: Peter
Date Posted: March 13 2004 at 22:37
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I really love the "medieval Dali," Hieronymous Bosch! Surreal-scary! I'd love to see his massive triptych "Garden of Earthly Delights" (& others) in the Prado in Madrid some day (if the monsters of this world don't blow it up first! Anyone else know/like his work? How about his fellow Dutch comtemporary, Pieter Breughel? Love his "Hunters in the Snow." ------------- "And, has thou slain the Jabberwock? Come to my arms, my beamish boy! O frabjous day! Callooh! Callay!' He chortled in his joy. |
Poor Spain!)Posted By: Peter
Date Posted: March 13 2004 at 22:40
 Oops, Tauhd! You already said you liked them (Bosch & Breughel) both -- good taste!------------- "And, has thou slain the Jabberwock? Come to my arms, my beamish boy! O frabjous day! Callooh! Callay!' He chortled in his joy. |
Posted By: Tauhd Zaļa
Date Posted: March 14 2004 at 04:52
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This is the story of a Peter Rabbit who loose his spectacles ! Have you long teeth and long ears ? ------------- The State Of Grace Is Achieved |
Peter Rideout wrote:Posted By: Joren
Date Posted: March 14 2004 at 05:10
I agree with you on both points made here 1. That is one of Magritte's most impressive paintings! 2. Fractals can also be beautiful. Although they are in fact mathematical, they look very natural... |
Posted By: Peter
Date Posted: March 15 2004 at 01:52
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[QUOTE=Tauhd Zaļ”
This is the story of a Peter Rabbit who loose his spectacles ! Have you long teeth and long ears ?
(See my description of my considerable external charms on the "Rogues Gallery" thread, found in "Suggestions for the Forums.") ------------- "And, has thou slain the Jabberwock? Come to my arms, my beamish boy! O frabjous day! Callooh! Callay!' He chortled in his joy. |
Ha! Actually, Tauhd (great name, by the way -- what is its origins?), I have great big "jug handle" ears (like an old VW Beetle with its doors open), and no teeth whatsoever! (As with most old dogs, my bark is far worse than my bite!) I don't wear spectacles, but instead have two coke-bottle-thick monocles for my rheummy "old blue eyes." (Sorry, Sinatra!) 
Posted By: Joren
Date Posted: March 15 2004 at 07:54
Weren't you that pimple on Brad's arse, Peter?  
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Posted By: will
Date Posted: March 15 2004 at 11:55
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Im not really a massive fan of art but I do apreciate a good painting. I dont really understand the appeal of Modern Art. To me it seems that anyone could produce a piece of Modern Art. All they do is blow up a few pots of paint on a canvas and sell it for £100,000. I really like Prog Art, I have done loads of sketches of Prog Album covers for my current art project. Im studying art in college at the moment and I am going to be studying photography and film and video (which are both forms of Art) at A-level. ------------- Long live progression. Will |
Posted By: Tauhd Zaļa
Date Posted: March 15 2004 at 12:47
I totaly agree with you. A Modern Art fan could say that the best album cover should be "The White Album" of the Beatles and pay a lot of money to have the original drawing ------------- The State Of Grace Is Achieved |
Posted By: Dan Bobrowski
Date Posted: March 15 2004 at 14:12
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Thanks Tauhd, Fractals make for interesting cover art. |
Posted By: Joren
Date Posted: March 15 2004 at 14:19
Am I the only one here who likes modern, abstract art? |
Posted By: Peter
Date Posted: March 15 2004 at 19:32
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No. ------------- "And, has thou slain the Jabberwock? Come to my arms, my beamish boy! O frabjous day! Callooh! Callay!' He chortled in his joy. |
Posted By: Paco Fox
Date Posted: March 16 2004 at 03:34
I'm not a great fan of modern art also. It's not enough emotional for me. I mean, I like stories, that's what moves me. Two thoughts a) abstract doesn't communicate these emotions to me (although I undertand those who enjoy it) and b)concept art is not about emotion at all (and I just despise it: I'm totally convinced that Duchamp's heirs are a bunch of sad failed people) I'm more into what I think is the prog of art: Pre-raphaelite and simbolism paintings: they are the most hated form of art between art critics nowadays, just like prog!. And, for the record, I'm not proud about liking what other peopled laugh at. I would love to like what's hip (that would make my lfe easier), but I can't help but like what I like. That said, I also love Belgian and Holland art: Van Eyck, Brueghel and Bosch. I, of course, have seen 'The Garden of Delights' in El Prado and... whoa! |
Posted By: Tauhd Zaļa
Date Posted: March 16 2004 at 03:47
Don't merge REAL Modern Art with commercial swindlings ------------- The State Of Grace Is Achieved |
Posted By: Jim Garten
Date Posted: March 16 2004 at 05:07
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[/QUOTE] Am I the only one here who likes modern, abstract art? [/QUOTE]Absolutely not - I could sit in the Mark Rothko gallery at the Tate Modern in London all day; I don't know what it is about the man's work, but I find it relaxing, yet slightly disturbing at the same time. Personally, I think the greatest artists of the 20th century would have to be Dali or Escher - excellent exponents of twisting the familiar until your brain goes pop...... ------------- 
Jon Lord 1941 - 2012 |
Posted By: Joren
Date Posted: March 16 2004 at 05:10
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I also like Van Vliet's paintings (I mentioned his cover-art for Doc At The Radar Station before).
You can see more at http://www.beefheart.com - www.beefheart.com ! |
Posted By: Dan Bobrowski
Date Posted: March 16 2004 at 11:26
No wonder the ketchup and mustard bottles are always empty!!!!
Actually, It's a rather phallic and vaggie kinda, Van Beefheart.
I like it!!! |
Posted By: will
Date Posted: March 16 2004 at 17:56
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I have nothing against modern art itself, although i do slightly resent the fact that some modern artists earn a large amount of money for what they do. I went to the Tate Modern recently and there was a video of a naked women pulling different colour bananas out of her arm pitts, playing on repeat in the shop. Whats that all about? ------------- Long live progression. Will |
Posted By: Dan Bobrowski
Date Posted: March 16 2004 at 18:23
| Commercial for Secret? |
Posted By: dude
Date Posted: March 16 2004 at 19:23
| i really like that renneassance stuff, you know,Guys sitting around candles and disscussing things.... that sort of stuff..low light etc......and i also like pictures of mountains especially the way the the japanese do it....a few strokes from a brush and IT LOOKS LIKE A BLOODY MOUNTAIN!!!...amazing!!! |
Posted By: Dan Bobrowski
Date Posted: March 16 2004 at 20:21
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Japanese art is very.................restful? Remember the cover of the first ELP Greatest hits package with the Samurai theme? Cool. Course, I spend a lot of time in sushi bars smashed on SAKE. Bitchin'. I've tried to get my (beautiful) wife into a Geisha outfit.......... MMMMMMMM still tryin' Anyway.............. anyone else? |
Posted By: Jim Garten
Date Posted: March 17 2004 at 03:22
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Hmmmmm - another thread seems to be descending into alcohol related filth........
I think my best experience at Tate Modern was going into one of the smaller gallery spaces from one end & a woman coming in from the other - the exhibit was a fluorescent strip light on one wall.......but at an angle!! - we caught each other's eye & just burst out laughing. I'm sure the 'artist' was sincere, but sometimes I do wonder - perhaps laughter is the reaction he/she was looking for -------------
Jon Lord 1941 - 2012 |
Posted By: diddy
Date Posted: March 17 2004 at 05:38
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Hmm art...
I don't really like realistic art, i'm more into some abstract forms of art...
But there's a french guy called Gustave Courbet (1819 - 1877) who made some great art...We have 2 Originals in our museum in Frankfurt, i liked it.
 Gustave Courbet - The Wave (translated
 )But one of my hobbies is "digital art" I'm a noob in using photoshop and it's not professional but I sometimes, when I have the time, take some images or photos from the Net, or make my own and mess with them in Photoshop...sometimes the result is very good, for a non-professional like me .------------- If liberty means anything at all, it means the right to tell people what they do not want to hear... George Orwell |
Posted By: Dan Bobrowski
Date Posted: March 17 2004 at 10:30
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So diddy, You could take the picture of Jim off the Rogues Gallery and make him look like Johnny Depp? I think his wife would appreciate that. |
Posted By: Tauhd Zaļa
Date Posted: March 17 2004 at 11:19
There is only the face to change ? (we can laught : we have not posted our pictures ------------- The State Of Grace Is Achieved |
Posted By: Jim Garten
Date Posted: March 17 2004 at 11:26
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I'll have you know, I'm actually Brad Pitt's body double for stuntwork & nude shots....... -------------
Jon Lord 1941 - 2012 |
Posted By: diddy
Date Posted: March 17 2004 at 11:29
Haha, I'm not very talented in those things, too realistic! I can't deal with faces, sometimes but the results are very bad, I rather do what comes into my mind...i'm not good in handling defaults
but I often try and ruefully shipwreck...I can give you an example. I wanted to mock a friend because of his nickname (he uses Spacefrog
 ) and the result had nothing to do with my default to mock him, it was one big experimentation...The Link: http://www.hockeydb.de/~tim/files/maddin/Spacefrog.jpg - http://www.hockeydb.de/~tim/files/maddin/Spacefrog.jpg
------------- If liberty means anything at all, it means the right to tell people what they do not want to hear... George Orwell |
Posted By: Tauhd Zaļa
Date Posted: March 17 2004 at 11:34
And have this result? :
(nice picture diddy, I like it )------------- The State Of Grace Is Achieved |
Posted By: diddy
Date Posted: March 17 2004 at 11:43
As I said, when I do experiments I may have results like this, but with a default or goal...it may be a good result but often has nothing to do with my aim
a good explanation could be: I no longer know how I made it
and refered to professionals working with Photoshop that is NOTHING believe me... ------------- If liberty means anything at all, it means the right to tell people what they do not want to hear... George Orwell |
Posted By: Dan Bobrowski
Date Posted: March 17 2004 at 11:47
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[/QUOTE]
Haha, I'm not very talented in those things, too realistic! I can't deal with faces, sometimes but the results are very bad, I rather do what comes into my mind...i'm not good in handling defaults
but I often try and ruefully shipwreck...I can give you an example. I wanted to mock a friend because of his nickname (he uses Spacefrog
) and the result had nothing to do with my default to mock him, it was one big experimentation...The Link: http://www.hockeydb.de/~tim/files/maddin/Spacefrog.jpg - http://www.hockeydb.de/~tim/files/maddin/Spacefrog.jpg
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Great work diddy. |
Posted By: diddy
Date Posted: March 17 2004 at 11:54
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thx everybody...
but this whole Photoshop thing takes up so much time, it's unbelievable... ------------- If liberty means anything at all, it means the right to tell people what they do not want to hear... George Orwell |
Posted By: Tauhd Zaļa
Date Posted: March 17 2004 at 11:55
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I understand now diddy you work as an autodidact in a intuitive way, right ? It's very close to the way we all have to approach music ------------- The State Of Grace Is Achieved |
Posted By: diddy
Date Posted: March 17 2004 at 12:07
That's right...but I'm not able to play any instrument
and now, i'm nearly 19 years old I think it's too late to learn some (Money, Time ---> A-Levels or Abitur in german) so I used Photoshop to express myself artistically  ...and now I have to got to do some sport(s), where's my time, where is it? ------------- If liberty means anything at all, it means the right to tell people what they do not want to hear... George Orwell |
Posted By: diddy
Date Posted: March 19 2004 at 13:34
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Hi again,
after we talked about art I had an inspiration
I wanted to make something more realistic but I was listening to Unfold the Future by The Flower Kings and was searching for some fotos to mess with in Photoshop and there was this car and I got the Idea, now, FIRST time I did something that was "planned"  First time the result looked like it should. I hpe you can see, that the car is flying ...I hope... http://www.hockeydb.de/~tim/files/maddin/Unfoldthefuture.jpg - http://www.hockeydb.de/~tim/files/maddin/Unfoldthefuture.jpg
And then, some days before I tryed to give me a kind of timelimit and wanted to see what comes out after 30 min. and here it is, very ...very 30 min. like
http://www.hockeydb.de/~tim/files/maddin/Experiments.jpg - http://www.hockeydb.de/~tim/files/maddin/Experiments.jpg
Hope you like it... ------------- If liberty means anything at all, it means the right to tell people what they do not want to hear... George Orwell |
Posted By: Joren
Date Posted: March 19 2004 at 13:43
Very nice! You could start a Photoshop thread! |
Posted By: Joren
Date Posted: March 19 2004 at 13:45
I once was in the Miro-museum (FANTASTIC!), in Barcelona, for a schooltrip and there also was a section with works from other artists. There was a video from a woman who was sucking on her toe. One of the teachers said: "Very erotic!" And that was so true! |
Posted By: Radioactive Toy
Date Posted: March 20 2004 at 09:15
If one of my art teachers would ever say something related to erotic stuff.. PLEASE.. PLEASE KILL ME! -------------  
Reed's failed joke counter: ||||| R.I.P. You could have reached infinity.... |
Posted By: Joren
Date Posted: March 22 2004 at 05:07
I thought it was quite funny ...and he was SO DAMN RIGHT |
Posted By: lucas
Date Posted: April 03 2004 at 10:32
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I will go for this Polish artist : WITKACY. He was as well gifted for painting as for poetry.
------------- "Magma was the very first gothic rock band" (Didier Lockwood) |
Posted By: diddy
Date Posted: April 03 2004 at 17:55
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Not Bad...I like the second one better, it's 'darker'
------------- If liberty means anything at all, it means the right to tell people what they do not want to hear... George Orwell |
Posted By: Dan Bobrowski
Date Posted: April 05 2004 at 12:49
Lucas, Could you post a link? |
Posted By: lucas
Date Posted: April 05 2004 at 13:34
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Here are the links for the two paintings (sorry but the site is in polish I think) : http://malarze.com/obrazy/witkacy_kompozycja2.jpg - http://malarze.com/obrazy/witkacy_kompozycja2.jpg http://malarze.com/obrazy/witkacy_rabanie.jpg - http://malarze.com/obrazy/witkacy_rabanie.jpg (rabanie=cutting the wood in polish) I also enjoy Derain's paintings, such as the following :
------------- "Magma was the very first gothic rock band" (Didier Lockwood) |
Posted By: lucas
Date Posted: April 09 2004 at 06:59
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Here is a painting I made myself (achieved entirely with gouache) :
If you like it, please let me know. ------------- "Magma was the very first gothic rock band" (Didier Lockwood) |
Posted By: diddy
Date Posted: April 09 2004 at 08:25
I would, but I can't see the Image...just the damn red X maybe I make one with Photoshop as well today... ------------- If liberty means anything at all, it means the right to tell people what they do not want to hear... George Orwell |
Posted By: lucas
Date Posted: April 09 2004 at 08:43
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No I scanned this picture and it's not on the internet but on a wall in my house. ------------- "Magma was the very first gothic rock band" (Didier Lockwood) |
Posted By: Dan Bobrowski
Date Posted: April 09 2004 at 10:46
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Max said he was going to work on a copy and paste function. I'm looking forward to seeing your work, Lucas.
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Posted By: lucas
Date Posted: April 09 2004 at 14:11
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How is it that you cannot see the picture ? ------------- "Magma was the very first gothic rock band" (Didier Lockwood) |
Posted By: lucas
Date Posted: April 09 2004 at 15:23
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OK, here is anew the same picture but this time you should see it.
------------- "Magma was the very first gothic rock band" (Didier Lockwood) |
Posted By: Stormcrow
Date Posted: April 09 2004 at 15:32
| Nice! |
Posted By: lucas
Date Posted: April 09 2004 at 15:35
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Thanks Storm'. ------------- "Magma was the very first gothic rock band" (Didier Lockwood) |
Posted By: diddy
Date Posted: April 09 2004 at 15:38
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Yeah, there it is...Nice one...I'm really jealous now, because I really can't paint...I just use Photoshop... Today I had a little time off and could make this image...don't ask what it should be, just played with some light effects and some new brushes... http://www.hockeydb.de/~tim/files/maddin/SomeLights.jpg - http://www.hockeydb.de/~tim/files/maddin/SomeLights.jpg and a simple one, 10 minutes work: http://www.hockeydb.de/~tim/files/maddin/Licht3.jpg - http://www.hockeydb.de/~tim/files/maddin/Licht3.jpg ------------- If liberty means anything at all, it means the right to tell people what they do not want to hear... George Orwell |
Posted By: lucas
Date Posted: April 09 2004 at 16:01
Good work, Diddy! ------------- "Magma was the very first gothic rock band" (Didier Lockwood) |
Posted By: philippe
Date Posted: April 09 2004 at 17:16
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And what about expressionist and dadaism works??? ------------- 
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Posted By: Dan Bobrowski
Date Posted: April 09 2004 at 17:25
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Lucas and diddy, Great stuff!!! I like your works.
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Posted By: diddy
Date Posted: April 09 2004 at 19:10
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thx... Is the first one not too 'dark' I played with some colors but thought that it looks better this way... ------------- If liberty means anything at all, it means the right to tell people what they do not want to hear... George Orwell |
Posted By: lucas
Date Posted: April 10 2004 at 11:55
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I like expressionism : do you know Franz Marc (der Blaue Reiter) or August Macke (fantastic colors in their compositions). I also like dadaism, and especially Dali, his works are so unique and there is an oneiric feel to them. Here is a painting by Macke (Lady in a green jacket) :
------------- "Magma was the very first gothic rock band" (Didier Lockwood) |
Posted By: Joren
Date Posted: May 18 2004 at 15:45
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I love this painting Magritte - La reproduction interdit it's in a museum in Holland... I saw it IN REAL LIFE (
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)!!!