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Topic: Outlaw posts entirely in bold/uppercase letters?
Posted By: MikeEnRegalia
Subject: Outlaw posts entirely in bold/uppercase letters?
Date Posted: December 27 2006 at 17:29
Alright, that does it ... I can't stand these posts anymore ... what do you think?

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Posted By: video vertigo
Date Posted: December 27 2006 at 17:49
I COMPLETELY AGREE

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Posted By: tuxon
Date Posted: December 27 2006 at 17:59
i like bold statements, don't care much for uppercase twits though Tongue

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Posted By: MikeEnRegalia
Date Posted: December 27 2006 at 18:02
^ ok, but when a member does all the posts in bold/uppercase/increased font size, it loses any useful meaning.

BTW: It's banned in many other forums, too. It causes other people to also increase their font size/writing uppercase etc..


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Posted By: glass house
Date Posted: December 27 2006 at 18:08
Like this you mean?
Wink.


Posted By: The Miracle
Date Posted: December 27 2006 at 18:15
Uppercase - sure. Italics(Yukorin!Pinch) also. But bold doesn't bother me that much...

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Posted By: Philéas
Date Posted: December 27 2006 at 19:02
Yes. It looks neater if everyone uses the standard font without modifying it.


Posted By: chamberry
Date Posted: December 27 2006 at 22:15
Poor El Böthy.

I always pictured people screaming when they post like that and it's actually kind of funny. Tongue


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Posted By: MikeEnRegalia
Date Posted: December 28 2006 at 05:08
^ yes, but I'm growing deaf from that noise.Wink

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Posted By: laplace
Date Posted: December 28 2006 at 05:14
I VOTED NO AS YOU'RE CRAMPING MY STYLe

(the lowercase e is so that this post doesn't seem like it's entirely written in uppercase)


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Posted By: progismylife
Date Posted: December 28 2006 at 05:23
I can't decide what to vote. First I hate seeing posts in all caps, but I do it occasionally but not too often (I hope), but I hate seeing it abused. I guess I will vote yes. Because it could get abused and that would get out of hand.


Posted By: andu
Date Posted: December 28 2006 at 05:56
italics are needed on a music forum as the proper way to quote a title is by typing (the title, not the author) it with italics. to be more specific, the overall title should be written in italics (the book's name, the album's name, the magazine's name, etc) and any inside title should be written normally but with quotation marks. also the author's name should be spelled with uppercase letters, but this is not mandatory.
 
an example:
 
John DOE, "Aesthetics today" in Journal of Philosphy, nr. 1/2006 pp. 21-44 (article quotation)
PINK FLOYD, "Time", Dark Side of the Moon, 1973 (song quotation)
Neica NIMENI, Tratat de nimicologie, cap. 1 - "La inceput a fost nimicul" pp. 3-30, Bucharest, 2007 (chapter quotation)
 
back to topic, i wouldn't like losing "bold" and "italic" options from post formating as i sometimes need to make a bold statement or to define a more subtle nuance. i don't use capitals but enjoy when some others play with them, it can be funny. i see you haven't put colours in the poll, if you did that i would have suggest to also include Peter Rideout for outlawing Stern SmileLOL


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Posted By: Ricochet
Date Posted: December 28 2006 at 06:00
    NOOO

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Posted By: Snow Dog
Date Posted: December 28 2006 at 06:21
How would it work Mike? Deletion of the offending posts? I might volunteer for that job!Evil Smile

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Posted By: Vompatti
Date Posted: December 28 2006 at 06:33
It DOeSn'T bOThER Me AT aLL, AcTUaLLy i THinK iT's KiND oF CooL!!!


Posted By: MikeEnRegalia
Date Posted: December 28 2006 at 06:46
Originally posted by Snow Dog Snow Dog wrote:

How would it work Mike? Deletion of the offending posts? I might volunteer for that job!Evil Smile


LOL yes, purge them from the archives!!!

No seriously, I would suggest that an announcement is made and a new forum rule is added, and people how continue to write such posts are warned just like they would be for any other violation of forum rules.


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Posted By: Snow Dog
Date Posted: December 28 2006 at 07:05
Originally posted by MikeEnRegalia MikeEnRegalia wrote:

Originally posted by Snow Dog Snow Dog wrote:

How would it work Mike? Deletion of the offending posts? I might volunteer for that job!Evil Smile


LOL yes, purge them from the archives!!!

No seriously, I would suggest that an announcement is made and a new forum rule is added, and people how continue to write such posts are warned just like they would be for any other violation of forum rules.


Ok I'LL DO IT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!Big smile


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Posted By: MikeEnRegalia
Date Posted: December 28 2006 at 07:09
^ of course I don't mind "creative formatting" like in your response above ... I'm only talking about people who use CAPS/bold all the time, with no apparent reason.


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Posted By: Snow Dog
Date Posted: December 28 2006 at 07:10
Originally posted by MikeEnRegalia MikeEnRegalia wrote:

^ of course I don't mind "creative formatting" like in your response above ... I'm only talking about people who use CAPS/bold all the time, with no apparent reason.


Yes I understand what you hate.....I hate it also.


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Posted By: Sean Trane
Date Posted: December 28 2006 at 07:16
Originally posted by Philéas Philéas wrote:

Yes. It looks neater if everyone uses the standard font without modifying it.
 
This would be a valid remark if there were not these huge signatures at the bottom of most posts.
 
I say Mike's idea for a new forum rule should be implemented.


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Posted By: Tony R
Date Posted: December 28 2006 at 07:28
I haven't seen a single argument here as to why we should ban large font and bold....just people stating a preference.


On most forums members "police" this themselves by explaining to the "offender(s)" that it is poor forum etiquette, or posting "why are you shouting at me?"

Something could be added to the "Site Rules and Guidelines" about forum etiquette, however to make a rule about this seems both excessive and pedantic.

I too think that very large signatures exhibit bad manners on the part of the forum member.



Posted By: Ricochet
Date Posted: December 28 2006 at 07:29
but now Mikey, except two or three we know or we can point out, who else uses CAPS/bold all the time?



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Posted By: Sean Trane
Date Posted: December 28 2006 at 07:45
Originally posted by Tony R Tony R wrote:

I haven't seen a single argument here as to why we should ban large font and bold....just people stating a preference. >> as mentioned before writing it in major/enlarged upper case bold characters is assimilated to screaming and yelling >> this is like a code that everyone cayches fairly quickly. Those making constant uses of it actually go against the grain (intentionally or not) or have an inferiority complex, wanting their words to come across as the utmost and complete truth.
 
I personally choose to bold (and color) my replies in a quote, but normally nobody takes that as a shout, because I do not upper case it. More than the bolding, it is the constant uppercase that is tiresome to me.
 
This being said, I rarely read El Bothy's posts because of his choice of character policy, as I rarely read also Yukorin's italic and centered posts. Not because I do not like them or do not care for what they say, but I find it troublesome and not worth the effort.


Something could be added to the "Site Rules and Guidelines" about forum etiquette, however to make a rule about this seems both excessive and pedantic. Not really, as the simple fact that the sentence is there can be used to prevent abuse and even serve as grounds to excusion if necessary (in terms of trolls a.o.)

I too think that very large signatures exhibit bad manners on the part of the forum member.



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Posted By: MikeEnRegalia
Date Posted: December 28 2006 at 08:28
It's not a big deal for me ... I created this poll to see what others think about the issue. I'm well prepared to just ignore posts from users like El Böthy.Smile

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Posted By: MikeEnRegalia
Date Posted: December 28 2006 at 08:28
Originally posted by Ricochet Ricochet wrote:

but now Mikey, except two or three we know or we can point out, who else uses CAPS/bold all the time?



Very few users do, fortunately.Big smile


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Posted By: Snow Dog
Date Posted: December 28 2006 at 08:59
Originally posted by Tony R Tony R wrote:



I too think that very large signatures exhibit bad manners on the part of the forum member.



I don't, but maybe thats because I have a large sig......


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Posted By: MikeEnRegalia
Date Posted: December 28 2006 at 09:37
Originally posted by Tony R Tony R wrote:



I too think that very large signatures exhibit bad manners on the part of the forum member.



Agreed.Wink


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Posted By: Snow Dog
Date Posted: December 28 2006 at 09:39
Originally posted by MikeEnRegalia MikeEnRegalia wrote:

Originally posted by Tony R Tony R wrote:



I too think that very large signatures exhibit bad manners on the part of the forum member.



Agreed.Wink


Ok, ok. How big is too big?Geek


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Posted By: MikeEnRegalia
Date Posted: December 28 2006 at 09:59
^ for me the width of a signature doesn't matter ... the new forum software adds scrollbars automatically. But I don't like signatures that are too high ... if the signature takes up more than half of my screen, for example.


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Posted By: Trickster F.
Date Posted: December 28 2006 at 10:00
Originally posted by Snow Dog Snow Dog wrote:

Originally posted by MikeEnRegalia MikeEnRegalia wrote:

Originally posted by Tony R Tony R wrote:



I too think that very large signatures exhibit bad manners on the part of the forum member.



Agreed.Wink


Ok, ok. How big is too big?Geek
 
Yeah. Geek


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Posted By: Ricochet
Date Posted: December 28 2006 at 10:03
Originally posted by MikeEnRegalia MikeEnRegalia wrote:


Originally posted by Ricochet Ricochet wrote:

but now Mikey, except two or three we know or we can point out, who else uses CAPS/bold all the time?

Very few users do, fortunately.


then why to disturb the peace of some who like to do it once in a while
    

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Posted By: MikeEnRegalia
Date Posted: December 28 2006 at 10:34
^ I'm not, I'm disturbing the peace of a few users who do it all the time, without exception.LOL

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Posted By: Ricochet
Date Posted: December 28 2006 at 10:36
yes, but won't we all be affected?

there's a difference between

"we're sorry, you can't post in bold letters"

and

"we're sorry, you can't post in bold letters because of El Bothy (and, respectively, Mike)



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Posted By: martinn
Date Posted: December 28 2006 at 10:47
jejeje I have to tell Matias (El Böthy) about this threat, you are killing him!Wink

Look it this way, isn't this much better than when he wrote all his post with this size?LOL


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Posted By: MikeEnRegalia
Date Posted: December 28 2006 at 10:50
How about

"please use standard font size and weight for your posts unless there is a specific situation where you want to highlight something. Using large and/or bold fonts for no apparent reason is offensive for some users - as are large and/or obtrusive signature images."

Smile


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Posted By: Abstrakt
Date Posted: December 28 2006 at 10:53
People that write like this are annoying:
HELLO I AM WRITING LIKE THIS
 
Wink


Posted By: MikeEnRegalia
Date Posted: December 28 2006 at 11:05
maybe we should all write like this for a while, until more people admit that it's annoying.LOL


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Posted By: Snow Dog
Date Posted: December 28 2006 at 11:13
Originally posted by MikeEnRegalia MikeEnRegalia wrote:

maybe we should all write like this for a while, until more people admit that it's annoying.LOL


This I don't mind, what Mike has done I mean.


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Posted By: Tristan Mulders
Date Posted: December 28 2006 at 13:18
no it pwns! Wink

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Posted By: progismylife
Date Posted: December 28 2006 at 13:21
What pwns ?


Posted By: el böthy
Date Posted: December 28 2006 at 14:08
I thought one could express himself with some sort of freedom here, but it seems there are people that get offended way to easily.
I´m starting to see Lostchords point of view of this site more and more.
This is clearly a thread made against me, you might as well have written "Should el böthy keep on writing in bold letters?". If now, I cant write in bold letters, whats next? Someone will come and say my avatar is offensive cause he doesnt like the Muppets?

I will stop using this bold letters, not because some dont like it, but because it can bring trouble in the future for newer members and I dont want to be held responsable for it.

It´s a shame, I thought the forum was way more open minded that what it really is. I dont use bold letters so my words get more attention or because I think I have the holy truth, nor cause Im shouting. I am very disapointed with some of you, and others I just cant care anymore


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Posted By: Ricochet
Date Posted: December 28 2006 at 16:00
oh boy...

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Posted By: The Miracle
Date Posted: December 28 2006 at 16:06
It's not all about you man!Hug

There's Yukorin with annoying italics, Mandy with the annoying light colors, etc... I rersonally never had problems with that.


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Posted By: Ricochet
Date Posted: December 28 2006 at 16:07
and Peter!

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Posted By: progismylife
Date Posted: December 28 2006 at 16:09
But I like it when el bothy writes in bold.


Posted By: Trickster F.
Date Posted: December 28 2006 at 16:27
I also like it a lot, El! Hug

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Posted By: el böthy
Date Posted: December 28 2006 at 18:33
Originally posted by Trickster F. Trickster F. wrote:

I also like it a lot, El! Hug

Thanks guys, and I also like it...but...noCry


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Posted By: progismylife
Date Posted: December 28 2006 at 18:36
Originally posted by el böthy el böthy wrote:


Originally posted by Trickster F. Trickster F. wrote:

I also like it a lot, El!
Thanks guys, and I also like it...but...no

    
Why should we deny el bothy his right ot post in bold? WE SHOULDN'T I also made his quote in bold.


Posted By: el böthy
Date Posted: December 28 2006 at 20:05
Originally posted by progismylife progismylife wrote:

Originally posted by el böthy el böthy wrote:


Originally posted by Trickster F. Trickster F. wrote:

I also like it a lot, El!
Thanks guys, and I also like it...but...no

    
Why should we deny el bothy his right ot post in bold? WE SHOULDN'T I also made his quote in bold.

Better so, I dont want to upset Mike...God only knows how much damage I must have already done to his head with my bold lettersDead


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Posted By: martinn
Date Posted: December 28 2006 at 20:08
Originally posted by el böthy el böthy wrote:

Originally posted by progismylife progismylife wrote:

Originally posted by el böthy el böthy wrote:


Originally posted by Trickster F. Trickster F. wrote:

I also like it a lot, El!
Thanks guys, and I also like it...but...no

    
Why should we deny el bothy his right ot post in bold? WE SHOULDN'T I also made his quote in bold.

Better so, I dont want to upset Mike...God only knows how much damage I must have already done to his head with my bold lettersDead

Wink


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Posted By: OpethGuitarist
Date Posted: December 28 2006 at 20:19
Im a Libertarian more or less, so you can pretty much guess my opinion on the matter.


One should be able to do w/e the hell he pleases, so long as he is not hurting anyone else. Bold posts are entirely different from personal attacks, imo.


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Posted By: MikeEnRegalia
Date Posted: December 28 2006 at 20:32
*sigh* ... I guess that if you cannot live without your individual font style, then keep using it. This was not an attack against you ... it seems like pretty much everybody around here seems to perceive any form of criticism as a personal attack.Ouch



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Posted By: progismylife
Date Posted: December 28 2006 at 20:33
Stop attacking me personally. It hurts.




Posted By: MikeEnRegalia
Date Posted: December 28 2006 at 20:34
^ you stole my emoticon!!! Ouch





LOL


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Posted By: freekske
Date Posted: December 28 2006 at 20:35
Originally posted by MikeEnRegalia MikeEnRegalia wrote:

it seems like pretty much everybody around here seems to perceive any form of criticism as a personal attack.Ouch
 
It's like this all over the world nowadays, nobody can take a bit of criticism. I guess the toes of people are growing LOL


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Posted By: Fassbinder
Date Posted: December 29 2006 at 02:08
Seriously, I'm not too fond of unusual writings (colourful and italicised espesially), but I really miss the previous El Boethy's manner of typing (bold with increased size, if I'm not mistaken). Those posts were so easy to be read... Actually, they were the only ones I read effortlessly.


Posted By: tardis
Date Posted: December 29 2006 at 02:11
YES, DEFINITELY.


Posted By: el böthy
Date Posted: December 29 2006 at 11:30
Originally posted by Fassbinder Fassbinder wrote:

Seriously, I'm not too fond of unusual writings (colourful and italicised espesially), but I really miss the previous El Boethy's manner of typing (bold with increased size, if I'm not mistaken). Those posts were so easy to be read... Actually, they were the only ones I read effortlessly.

jajajajaLOLLOLLOLLOLLOL Thumbs Up


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Posted By: Peter
Date Posted: December 29 2006 at 11:43
Originally posted by MikeEnRegalia MikeEnRegalia wrote:

*sigh* ... I guess that if you cannot live without your individual font style, then keep using it. This was not an attack against you ... it seems like pretty much everybody around here seems to perceive any form of criticism as a personal attack.

Er, yes....



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Posted By: Jim Garten
Date Posted: December 29 2006 at 13:31
Just a small question here, and it will probably expose my utter naivety:

Does it really matter that much to people?

Originally posted by Tony R Tony R wrote:

I too think that very large signatures exhibit bad manners on the part of the forum member




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Posted By: MikeEnRegalia
Date Posted: December 29 2006 at 13:36
^ it doesn't matter much to me ... it annoys me, and I know that many other forums consider it bad manners, so I started this thread.

I'd say for me it's a 2 on a 1-10 scale of importance.LOL


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Posted By: Peter
Date Posted: December 29 2006 at 13:54
In any case, rather than attempting to heavy-handedly "legislate" forum font manners or "morality," I think "netiquette" should take care of itself.

A little reply like "stop SHOUTING at me" should suffice. The "offender" may not even realise he is being "rude" according to common accepted practice.

Let the "court of public opinion" handle such matters -- I think it generally does the job well.

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Posted By: Fassbinder
Date Posted: December 30 2006 at 00:52
Originally posted by el bЖthy el bЖthy wrote:

Originally posted by Fassbinder Fassbinder wrote:

Seriously, I'm not too fond of unusual writings (colourful and italicised espesially), but I really miss the previous El Boethy's manner of typing (bold with increased size, if I'm not mistaken). Those posts were so easy to be read... Actually, they were the only ones I read effortlessly.

jajajajaLOLLOLLOLLOLLOL Thumbs Up
 
Very nice...Confused
 
 
It (my previous post) wasn't a joke. It's truth.


Posted By: MikeEnRegalia
Date Posted: December 30 2006 at 04:59
^ why do you think he thought you were joking?Wink

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Posted By: tuxon
Date Posted: December 30 2006 at 06:41
Originally posted by MikeEnRegalia MikeEnRegalia wrote:

^ why do you think he thought you were joking?Wink
 
the first clue was probable the series of laughing smileysLOL


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Posted By: MikeEnRegalia
Date Posted: December 30 2006 at 06:44
Originally posted by tuxon tuxon wrote:

Originally posted by MikeEnRegalia MikeEnRegalia wrote:

^ why do you think he thought you were joking?Wink
 
the first clue was probable the series of laughing smileysLOL


Yes - laughing, not winking. I think he was simply agreeing.Tongue


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Posted By: Snow Dog
Date Posted: December 30 2006 at 06:50
Originally posted by MikeEnRegalia MikeEnRegalia wrote:

Originally posted by tuxon tuxon wrote:

Originally posted by MikeEnRegalia MikeEnRegalia wrote:

^ why do you think he thought you were joking?Wink
 
the first clue was probable the series of laughing smileysLOL


Yes - laughing, not winking. I think he was simply agreeing.Tongue


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Posted By: progismylife
Date Posted: December 30 2006 at 06:51
Originally posted by Snow Dog Snow Dog wrote:


Originally posted by MikeEnRegalia MikeEnRegalia wrote:


Originally posted by tuxon tuxon wrote:

Originally posted by MikeEnRegalia MikeEnRegalia wrote:

^ why do you think he thought you were joking?

 

the first clue was probable the series of laughing smileys

Yes - laughing, not winking. I think he was simply agreeing.]


jejejejejejejejejejejeje

    


Posted By: MikeEnRegalia
Date Posted: December 30 2006 at 06:52
^^ good example of "muppet agreement" right there.LOL

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Posted By: el böthy
Date Posted: December 30 2006 at 17:19
Originally posted by Fassbinder Fassbinder wrote:

Originally posted by el bЖthy el bЖthy wrote:

Originally posted by Fassbinder Fassbinder wrote:

Seriously, I'm not too fond of unusual writings (colourful and italicised espesially), but I really miss the previous El Boethy's manner of typing (bold with increased size, if I'm not mistaken). Those posts were so easy to be read... Actually, they were the only ones I read effortlessly.

jajajajaLOLLOLLOLLOLLOL Thumbs Up
 
Very nice...Confused
 
 
It (my previous post) wasn't a joke. It's truth.

Hey, I didnt laught at you or what you wrote! I just found it funny, actually I thank you for having said something like that man! Thumbs Up


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Posted By: Fassbinder
Date Posted: December 30 2006 at 17:29
Originally posted by el bЖthy el bЖthy wrote:

Originally posted by Fassbinder Fassbinder wrote:

Originally posted by el bЖthy el bЖthy wrote:

Originally posted by Fassbinder Fassbinder wrote:

Seriously, I'm not too fond of unusual writings (colourful and italicised espesially), but I really miss the previous El Boethy's manner of typing (bold with increased size, if I'm not mistaken). Those posts were so easy to be read... Actually, they were the only ones I read effortlessly.

jajajajaLOLLOLLOLLOLLOL Thumbs Up
 
Very nice...Confused
 
 
It (my previous post) wasn't a joke. It's truth.

Hey, I didnt laught at you or what you wrote! I just found it funny, actually I thank you for having said something like that man! Thumbs Up
 
OK then... Misunderstanding...
 
It's not too funny for me, though; I have to say: "Unfortunately", due to my pretty bad seeing. Those big letters were really the most comfortable ones to read.
 
I hope I would be saying the same thing had I the normal seeing too.


Posted By: MikeEnRegalia
Date Posted: December 30 2006 at 17:43
^ do you know that you can increase font size in Windows, and in the web browser?

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Posted By: progismylife
Date Posted: December 30 2006 at 17:45
Really? That is interesting. (sorry about the weird font, but I got Firefox and am finally able to use these things a whole lot easier.)


Posted By: magnus
Date Posted: December 30 2006 at 21:16
I guess some times you just have to use a lot of uppercase letters to express yourself in situations where lowercase does not suffice(imitating shouting, expressing anger or similar feelings).

But I think most people have enough common sense to understand that consequently typing with caps lock on is annoying for the other members of the forum, and thus reconcider their way of typing. If they don't, we can simply ignore their posts or choose not to take them seriously; like Peter Rideout said: Let the "court of public opinion" handle such matters

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Posted By: Scapler
Date Posted: December 31 2006 at 16:17
HEY MAN! STOP KNOCKING MY EXPRESSIONS!!!!
Wink


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Posted By: Trickster F.
Date Posted: January 01 2007 at 13:34
Damn it, this thread is epic. LOL

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Posted By: progismylife
Date Posted: January 01 2007 at 14:36
Yes it is, yes it is. Are different fonts part of the discussion?

Because if they are well .........


TongueWink
Tongue


Posted By: darksinger
Date Posted: January 01 2007 at 14:39
i don't think it should be banned...some folks need bold, capital letters. in fact, i like the picture feature here because some folks need to have it drawn out for them.

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