Slipknot are they prog metal ?
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Topic: Slipknot are they prog metal ?
Posted By: Masque
Subject: Slipknot are they prog metal ?
Date Posted: December 22 2006 at 02:01
I`m not a fan of Slipknot but on some level I do respect the drummer Joey Jordison, he is as progressive a drummer as half the prog metal drummers I have heard ! I feel the question needs to be asked is it possible slipknot could also be considered as prog ?  I mean Joey Jordison is known as one of the best drummers these days we should claim him as one of our own !   am I serious or not ? not sure ? sain or not ? not sure ? 
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Posted By: Ricochet
Date Posted: December 22 2006 at 02:05
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no wai.
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Posted By: Artisalie
Date Posted: December 22 2006 at 02:22
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No!!!!!!!!!!! ------------- The hand that signed the treaty bred a fever, And famine grew, and locusts came; Great is the hand that holds dominion over Man by a scribbled name. |
Posted By: Drew
Date Posted: December 22 2006 at 02:29
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Kill me now. ------------- |
Posted By: Abstrakt
Date Posted: December 22 2006 at 02:33
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They are far from progressive!
They are like Nu/Death-Metal
 They Suck, btw!
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Posted By: enteredwinter
Date Posted: December 22 2006 at 02:51
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No. Their songs are the musical equivalent of getting punched in the face repeatedly. Sometimes, that's actually enjoyable, weirdly, so I listen to them once in a while, but I've never heard anything prog in their music. |
Posted By: ResidentAlien
Date Posted: December 22 2006 at 03:02
You've got some balls asking that question. You'll be lucky to still be living come tomorrow. The PA Mafia's watching you. |
Posted By: Bryan
Date Posted: December 22 2006 at 03:03
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... Slipknot are pretty much the definition of nu-metal. Their music is about as basic and unintelliget as the "metal" genre (which I don't even consider them a part of, but we'll lump them in with it for convenience's sake here) can get. Joey Jordinson is an average drummer who somehow manages to impress people by having a massive kit and being able to aimlessly bash it really quickly. If you want impressive metal drumming listen to Tomas Haake or Sean Reinert. Quite a bit more I could poetentially add, but I think it can be easily summarized by quite simply saying... NO. |
Posted By: ResidentAlien
Date Posted: December 22 2006 at 03:08
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If Tool is here, Slipknot should be here too!!!! |
Posted By: ResidentAlien
Date Posted: December 22 2006 at 03:10
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Slipknot is undeniably more prog than Yes!! |
Posted By: Bryan
Date Posted: December 22 2006 at 03:13
| Once Slipknot gets in maybe we can look into the inclusion of Limp Bizkit? |
Posted By: ResidentAlien
Date Posted: December 22 2006 at 03:15
| Kevin Federline's new album should be included.... at least as Proto-Prog. |
Posted By: Bryan
Date Posted: December 22 2006 at 03:21
| Don't forget Milli Vanilli... surely "Girl You Know It's True" had an undeniable impact on the evolution of the Zeuhl genre. |
Posted By: ResidentAlien
Date Posted: December 22 2006 at 03:23
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Crazy Frog was instrumental in progressing symphonic music in South America in the early 1970's. |
Posted By: Bryan
Date Posted: December 22 2006 at 03:26
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What's even more important though is the omission of Vanilla Ice... the undisputable (and painfully undercredited) founder of the RIO movement. His later stuff is awful though. |
Posted By: ResidentAlien
Date Posted: December 22 2006 at 03:28
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Yes, but you can't forget Blackjack who under the lead of Michael Bolton and Bruce Kulick courageously experimented with metal and were the true founders of Progressive Metal as we know it today. They also of course paved the way for such masculine Prog-Metal legends as James LaBrie. |
Posted By: Bryan
Date Posted: December 22 2006 at 03:33
| And of course the inclusion of Blackjack will make Michael Bolton's solo career an obvious entry into the prog-related category... his solo career didn't always stay true to the prog spirit, but classics like Time, Love and Tenderness (best known for the 20 minute hammond solo that takes up the entire second side) make him as solid a prog-related candidate as you could think of. |
Posted By: ResidentAlien
Date Posted: December 22 2006 at 03:35
| Yes, and KISS should also be included as Prog-Related then. |
Posted By: iguana
Date Posted: December 22 2006 at 03:35
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go look for them in craparchives.com, you've obviously picked the wrong url ... ------------- progressive rock and rural tranquility don't match. true or false? |
Posted By: ResidentAlien
Date Posted: December 22 2006 at 03:37
Damn you. You ruined our flow, man. Bryan and I had some good vibes flowing between us. Now it's dead. Thanks, bro. |
iguana wrote:Posted By: Bryan
Date Posted: December 22 2006 at 03:39
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Yeah, what do we do now? uh... Phil Collins for prog-related!!!! *cough* |
Posted By: ResidentAlien
Date Posted: December 22 2006 at 03:40
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How about Led Zeppelin? ...oh... |
Posted By: Ricochet
Date Posted: December 22 2006 at 03:51
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having fun, monsieur Bryan and Resident?
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Posted By: Bryan
Date Posted: December 22 2006 at 03:57
| We're 100% serious. |
Posted By: Masque
Date Posted: December 22 2006 at 03:59
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I was never serious about this poll I just wanted to have some fun playing with some ideas but lets face it there's some pretty dodgy prog metal around these days that's been included here on prog archives, I mean some of its great stuff but some is awful. (also questionable as to if its infact progressive anyway) So I thought why not bounce a few ideas around I think the decision has been made Slipknot won`t be opening for Symphony X any time soon !  ------------- |
Posted By: trauma0
Date Posted: December 22 2006 at 05:59
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slipknot sucks! ------------- http://www.last.fm/user/trauma0/?chartstyle=itunesrecent"> 
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Posted By: iguana
Date Posted: December 22 2006 at 06:02
do forgive me – i was just about to join you and suggest the SCORPIONS for this database
oh my, what fun we are having – BTW. merry xmas and all that to everyone!!! ------------- progressive rock and rural tranquility don't match. true or false? |
Posted By: eloii
Date Posted: December 22 2006 at 06:50
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sure. they are progressing stupidity. |
Posted By: Tony R
Date Posted: December 22 2006 at 07:12
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and of course putting the poll in the wrong section was "fun" too...
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Posted By: Jim Garten
Date Posted: December 22 2006 at 07:20
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Absolutely not! Jeez, someone will suggest Iron Maiden next... ------------- 
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Posted By: TheProgtologist
Date Posted: December 22 2006 at 09:34
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I have said it before in this forum when Slipknot is mentioned,and am not afraid to say it again,I love Slipknot.I don't think they are in any way prog,but then again,I don't only listen to prog music,how boring that must be.I grew up loving Kiss,so Slipknot's theatricality really appeals to me,and I love their music,it's pretty brutal.I have seen them live quite a few times and they put on one hell of a live show,you definitely get your moneys worth.
Nu-metal,death metal,prog metal,heavy metal,doom metal,black metal.....WHO CARES WHAT IT'S CALLED??? It's ALL metal!!!!!I don't just like one sub-genre of it...but the whole genre itself. -------------  |
Posted By: Peter
Date Posted: December 22 2006 at 09:45
Hmmmm...
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Posted By: Barla
Date Posted: December 22 2006 at 10:55
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Nu-Metal.
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Posted By: TeniGray
Date Posted: December 22 2006 at 11:26
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i don´t like slipknot, it´s too violent, i like when the metal bands have some light or symphonic passages in their songs, like dream theater or symphony x...except in their last album. aaaaall de songs of slipknot are very very heavys, and i don´t like it...but the drummer it´s simply genial, one of the best i ever heard...
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Posted By: Sasquamo
Date Posted: December 22 2006 at 11:55
| Their masks are probably the dumbest things I've ever seen. The drummer is okay for metal, I guess, but he uses way to much double bass with little rhythmic variation. |
Posted By: toolsofthetrade
Date Posted: December 22 2006 at 12:28
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hahaha - ha! No, slipknot are not prog metal, they're crappy nu metal. I actually used to like slipknot, but then i grew up. ------------- Tool backwards is Loot. Best signature EVAR! Now smell my mattress! |
Posted By: Guzzman
Date Posted: December 22 2006 at 12:36
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Their name was "Slip Not" at first, but then they slipped on the slippery grounds of music, cause they don't do music, and thus changed their name. At least they proved that they are able to learn. Now they should start to learn how to write music. ------------- "We've got to get in to get out" |
Posted By: chamberry
Date Posted: December 22 2006 at 14:12
What's so bad about Slipknot?  Before I knew what prog is Slipknot was one of my favorite bands. Their debut was great and the song IOWA was pretty creepy. I wouldn't mind listening to that song (or them) again if I had the chance. ------------- 
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Posted By: TheProgtologist
Date Posted: December 22 2006 at 14:16
Have you ever heard their debut Mate.Feed.Kill.Repeat? It is very different than subsequent releases,and blends a whole slew of different musical styles into their overall sound.Great album. ------------- |
Posted By: Philéas
Date Posted: December 22 2006 at 15:22
Slipknot? Die please.  |
Posted By: Tenken
Date Posted: December 23 2006 at 16:06
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No!!! I think it's more clear now  -------------  ¡¡El Rocanrol no morirá jamás!!
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Posted By: Stjernestøv
Date Posted: December 23 2006 at 16:22
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No, they are not prog. But more importantly, they are not metal. Just because it's brutal doesn't mean it's metal, you know. ------------- "My stories? No, my little lord, not mine. The stories are, before me and after me, before you too." |
Posted By: chamberry
Date Posted: December 23 2006 at 18:32
Yeah. One of my friends has that album, but I only listened to some songs from it. It was pretty strange compared to their other albums. I also saw some bits of their DVD too. I remember the drummer doing a solo while the plataform below him moved in circles in a 90 degree angle. It was pretty cool. -------------
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Posted By: TheProgtologist
Date Posted: December 23 2006 at 21:41
I have that DVD,called Disasterpieces.Great live show from London and that drum solo is pretty cool.Jordinson's drum platform raises up at a 90 degree angle and starts spinning in circles while he's playing. ------------- |
Posted By: chamberry
Date Posted: December 23 2006 at 22:41
Deja vu?
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Posted By: The T
Date Posted: December 23 2006 at 23:38
they are crap-metal
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Posted By: TheProgtologist
Date Posted: December 24 2006 at 01:32
Well...that's what it does.
When I first watched the dvd I knew something was going to happen because about 1/3 of the way into the show Jordinson was suddenly sitting on a high backed stool,and was wearing a harness. ------------- |
Posted By: Visitor13
Date Posted: December 24 2006 at 10:34
| Anyone saw the "Slipnuts" act on Conan O'Brien some 5 - 6 years ago? |
Posted By: The Wizard
Date Posted: December 24 2006 at 10:46
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Posted By: Scapler
Date Posted: December 24 2006 at 15:15
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NO!
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Posted By: markosherrera
Date Posted: December 25 2006 at 12:34
| slpknot is a dog sh*t metal |
Posted By: markosherrera
Date Posted: December 25 2006 at 12:36
| chucky metal or scrap metal |
Posted By: moreitsythanyou
Date Posted: December 25 2006 at 12:36
We're the Slip Nuts, slipping on nuts... BTW they are the furthest thing from prog metal -------------  <font color=white>butts, lol[/COLOR] |
Posted By: Chus
Date Posted: December 25 2006 at 12:41
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they aren't prog-metal at all...Zheul is more like it ------------- Jesus Gabriel |
Posted By: chamberry
Date Posted: December 25 2006 at 12:43
That tittle goes to Simple Plan. -------------
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Posted By: TRoTZ
Date Posted: December 25 2006 at 12:52
| By this way, even Linkin Park is progressive rock lol |
Posted By: Jared
Date Posted: December 25 2006 at 12:57
you heard the man....  ------------- Music has always been a matter of energy to me. On some nights I believe that a car with the needle on empty can run 50 more miles if you have the right music very loud on the radio. Hunter S Thompson |
Posted By: el böthy
Date Posted: December 25 2006 at 15:13
Yeah...who is arguing that???  ...------------- "You want me to play what, Robert?" 
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Posted By: Zargus
Date Posted: December 27 2006 at 02:25
then we shuld add all thos other mega havey, heavy metal bands like queen, deep purple, rainbow, Iron maiden and led zeppelin! That whuld be cool ye? 
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Posted By: Mandrakeroot
Date Posted: December 27 2006 at 17:55
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is this music??? ------------- 
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Posted By: king_pin
Date Posted: December 28 2006 at 14:27
nickelback is by far the most progressive band i've ever heard in my live!!
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