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Topic: Grateful Dead?
Posted By: Nathanson
Subject: Grateful Dead?
Date Posted: December 15 2006 at 21:13
Do you think the Grateful Dead are Prog related?



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Posted By: Sasquamo
Date Posted: December 16 2006 at 12:57
No.


Posted By: M. B. Zapelini
Date Posted: December 16 2006 at 13:58
No, they're not. I love Grateful Dead, but I don't see any connection with prog.

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Posted By: MikeEnRegalia
Date Posted: December 16 2006 at 14:05
I never listened to Grateful Dead ... but I bought Blues for Allah a while ago in a second hand record store, because I thought the cover looked cool and I remembered some people talking about the album here.

I guess I'll put it on after I finished Adrian Belew - Side One.Big smile


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Posted By: Minimalist777
Date Posted: December 17 2006 at 00:40
Well actually the Agitation Free bootleg I am currently listening too seems pretty similar to the early Grateful Dead stuff like Dark Star, but no I would not say they have anything to do with prog.

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Posted By: Atavachron
Date Posted: December 17 2006 at 00:58
Originally posted by MikeEnRegalia MikeEnRegalia wrote:

I never listened to Grateful Dead ... but I bought Blues for Allah a while ago in a second hand record store, because I thought the cover looked cool and I remembered some people talking about the album here.I guess I'll put it on after I finished Adrian Belew - Side One.



That's a great album. It's one of their most structured works and, actually, rather proggy.

If pushed I will say the Dead are not prog-related, but on a good night, there was nothing like them-- master musicians weaving their dreams on stage. Progressive music in a most intuitive, joyus and human way.
    


Posted By: bhikkhu
Date Posted: December 17 2006 at 10:43
Originally posted by Atavachron Atavachron wrote:

Originally posted by MikeEnRegalia MikeEnRegalia wrote:

I never listened to Grateful Dead ... but I bought Blues for Allah a while ago in a second hand record store, because I thought the cover looked cool and I remembered some people talking about the album here.I guess I'll put it on after I finished Adrian Belew - Side One.



That's a great album. It's one of their most structured works and, actually, rather proggy.

If pushed I will say the Dead are not prog-related, but on a good night, there was nothing like them-- master musicians weaving their dreams on stage. Progressive music in a most intuitive, joyus and human way.
    


I just heard that album for the first time yesterday. There are definitely some moments that struck me as prog (Sage & Spirit). However, I don't think the bulk of their music fits the criteria.


    

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Posted By: Raff
Date Posted: December 17 2006 at 10:56
I moved this to Suggest Bands/Artists, as the Dead are not yet in PA. The PP/PR lounge is for bands or artists that are already included in the site's database.


Posted By: Arrrghus
Date Posted: December 17 2006 at 11:00
Great band, not prog though. They were part of the psychedelic movement (which developed into prog), but they aren't prog.

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Posted By: A B Negative
Date Posted: December 19 2006 at 11:09
A friend of mine is a Deadhead. I once borrowed a load of Dead LPs to see what they sounded like. Didn't like anything about them apart from the LP sleeves.


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Posted By: Howe Protege
Date Posted: December 21 2006 at 00:28
Absolutely not

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Posted By: akin
Date Posted: December 21 2006 at 06:26
Grateful Dead are psychedelic IMO.


Posted By: Rushman
Date Posted: December 21 2006 at 11:21
I agree that they don't belong here, but they recorded a handful of great "prog" tunes. Listen to the title track on Terrapin Station and tell me it's not a prog song.


Posted By: Jim Garten
Date Posted: December 21 2006 at 11:30
Originally posted by Rushman Rushman wrote:

Listen to the title track on Terrapin Station and tell me it's not a prog song.


Then listen to the rest of their repertoire & tell me it's not a load of dreary old twaddle!
    

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Posted By: Rushman
Date Posted: December 21 2006 at 12:17
Originally posted by Jim Garten Jim Garten wrote:

Originally posted by Rushman Rushman wrote:

Listen to the title track on Terrapin Station and tell me it's not a prog song.


Then listen to the rest of their repertoire & tell me it's not a load of dreary old twaddle!
    
 
I'm not dis-agreeing with you, as I said, they don't belong here, but that one song could have just as easily come from many of the bands that are on this site.


Posted By: Jim Garten
Date Posted: December 21 2006 at 12:20
It's OK, I was being facetious - I really tried to get into GD & of the 7/8 albums I've heard (including three which were recommended to me as 'classics'), all I heard was mediocre playing & watered down west coast country-rock

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Posted By: Neil
Date Posted: December 21 2006 at 12:26
Originally posted by Jim Garten Jim Garten wrote:

It's OK, I was being facetious - I really tried to get into GD & of the 7/8 albums I've heard (including three which were recommended to me as 'classics'), all I heard was mediocre playing & watered down west coast country-rock


I have to agree. I guess you need to be in Cali with a convertable and a spliff
     

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Posted By: TheProgtologist
Date Posted: December 21 2006 at 16:25
I still can't get over the shock of someone suggesting the Grateful Dead should be in the archives.

Wow.

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Posted By: Sasquamo
Date Posted: December 21 2006 at 17:35
Originally posted by Rushman Rushman wrote:

I agree that they don't belong here, but they recorded a handful of great "prog" tunes. Listen to the title track on Terrapin Station and tell me it's not a prog song.


All you need to do now is find about four more prog songs and they'll be approved for prog-related!


Posted By: salmacis
Date Posted: December 21 2006 at 17:45
Not a chance, imo. The prog songs people mention that always are from those two albums 'Terrapin Station' and 'Blues For Allah'. I've heard both and I can't say either had even a track that struck me as prog. Those albums had some cod reggae stuff on, I seem to recall!!

I'd say there was more of a country/blues flavour to their work than a prog one, even the lengthier stuff is not prog, it's just lengthy jams. I wouldn't go out of my way to own anymore albums of this band really...the ones I have are all decent enough but I don't really see why they are THAT revered.



Posted By: freekske
Date Posted: December 28 2006 at 18:21
Nobody can jam like the dead, the way they jammed and played around with their songs was progressive, but their music just isn't.

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Posted By: Asyte2c00
Date Posted: January 01 2007 at 11:56
If Jefferson Airplane are in PA, then GD must be in PA as well. 
 
You cant have one without the other. 


Posted By: progismylife
Date Posted: January 01 2007 at 14:18
Originally posted by Asyte2c00 Asyte2c00 wrote:

If Jefferson Airplane are in PA, then GD must be in PA as well. 
 
You cant have one without the other. 


What are you talking about? They have 2 totally distinct sounds. Jefferson Airplane might have gotten away with its psychedelia but Grateful Dead have nothing prog besides their jams. And that is not reason enough to include them in PA.


Posted By: Atavachron
Date Posted: September 19 2007 at 04:14
 ^ hey easy there, bub, no need to be abusive




Posted By: Raff
Date Posted: September 19 2007 at 04:20
Cry.... And all that as a response to a post that was months old.


Posted By: Atavachron
Date Posted: September 19 2007 at 04:22
really




Posted By: micky
Date Posted: September 19 2007 at 18:23
hahahah.. .I heard about that this... thanks Raff... would have wondered what had happened.  Some people are just stupid enough to mess with the wrong people LOL

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Posted By: Gentle Tull
Date Posted: September 20 2007 at 18:55
Oh, I was just kidding, sorry if people took it to be a serious matter.
 
Plus, I love progtologist, and I hope someday we will have children of our own.


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Posted By: micky
Date Posted: January 04 2008 at 20:04
*bump*

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Posted By: Quantum Tuba
Date Posted: January 04 2008 at 22:47
Originally posted by Jim Garten Jim Garten wrote:

It's OK, I was being facetious - I really tried to get into GD & of the 7/8 albums I've heard (including three which were recommended to me as 'classics'), all I heard was mediocre playing & watered down west coast country-rock


I don't think they belong here.  However, one reason you may dislike them is because you've been listening to studio work.  The Dead were not a great studio band, but the live recordings I've heard have some impeccable stuff.


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