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Topic: Rare Pre-VU&Nico Acetate Becomes Most $$$ Ever
Posted By: ResidentAlien
Subject: Rare Pre-VU&Nico Acetate Becomes Most $$$ Ever
Date Posted: December 12 2006 at 02:09
http://cgi.ebay.com/VELVET-UNDERGROUND-NICO-1966-Acetate-LP-ANDY-WARHOL_W0QQitemZ300054910309QQihZ020QQcategoryZ306QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem - http://cgi.ebay.com/VELVET-UNDERGROUND-NICO-1966-Acetate-LP-ANDY-WARHOL_W0QQitemZ300054910309QQihZ020QQcategoryZ306QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem



Wow.... WOW....



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Posted By: OpethGuitarist
Date Posted: December 12 2006 at 02:17
petsalad or jroiv will get it

all the others don't have enough feedback, i would think


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Posted By: ResidentAlien
Date Posted: December 12 2006 at 02:18
It' been reported on CNN that the guy who was top bidder did indeed get it...


Posted By: Zac M
Date Posted: December 12 2006 at 02:19
http://rateyourmusic.com/board_message/message_id_is_718791&show=20&start=40

Wink


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"Art is not imitation, nor is it something manufactured according to the wishes of instinct or good taste. It is a process of expression."

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Posted By: OpethGuitarist
Date Posted: December 12 2006 at 02:19
link? Resident?

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Posted By: ResidentAlien
Date Posted: December 12 2006 at 02:21
http://www.cnn.com/2006/SHOWBIZ/Music/12/10/vintage.velvet.ap/index.html - http://www.cnn.com/2006/SHOWBIZ/Music/12/10/vintage.velvet.ap/index.html


Posted By: ResidentAlien
Date Posted: December 12 2006 at 02:22
Besides, the auction didn't specify that you had to have a certain amount of feedback.  Therefore they couldn't deny him it.


Posted By: OpethGuitarist
Date Posted: December 12 2006 at 02:22
he struck gold, heh

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Posted By: Zac M
Date Posted: December 12 2006 at 02:24
According to what I've seen and read, the guy didn't actually get it. There's an article linked in the RYM thread link I posted.

http://www.theglobeandmail.com/servlet/story/RTGAM.20061211.wxunderground11/BNStory/Entertainment/home

and i think there are some more elsewhere 

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"Art is not imitation, nor is it something manufactured according to the wishes of instinct or good taste. It is a process of expression."

-Merleau-Ponty


Posted By: ResidentAlien
Date Posted: December 12 2006 at 02:25
I saw it.  I'm not sure what Globe & Mail is, though.  I haven't had a chance to verify the site's validity yet.


Posted By: ResidentAlien
Date Posted: December 12 2006 at 02:27
That's the only source that says that that I've turned up yet at least.  If you can find me another I'll be more inclined to believe it.


Posted By: Zac M
Date Posted: December 12 2006 at 02:28
Yeah, who knows for sure.

Anyways, I still think it's ridiculous that anyone would want to spend all that money on it. I could undertstand it being sold to thr R'nR hall of fame or something, though.

I thought I saw another on RYM, I could be wrong though...


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"Art is not imitation, nor is it something manufactured according to the wishes of instinct or good taste. It is a process of expression."

-Merleau-Ponty


Posted By: ResidentAlien
Date Posted: December 12 2006 at 02:30
Hey, I think it's a neat piece of history.  And who knows, perhaps the guy will be able to strike up a deal with Columbia or someone to get the thing officially released.  Then it'd be worth his investment, I think.  Smile


Posted By: Zac M
Date Posted: December 12 2006 at 02:43
Very true

I wasn't expecting it to go that high; I thought maybe 100K at most. Even if it was my favorite artist and I had the cash, I still don't think I could ever make myself pay that much, though.




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"Art is not imitation, nor is it something manufactured according to the wishes of instinct or good taste. It is a process of expression."

-Merleau-Ponty


Posted By: ResidentAlien
Date Posted: December 12 2006 at 02:46
Hell, I would (hypothetically since I don't have two cents to rub together) go that high if say a previously unheard of cut of Piper at the Gates of Dawn or some other Floyd artifact surfaced.  I'm that fanatical about my Floyd.


Posted By: Zac M
Date Posted: December 12 2006 at 02:51
Well, I have the early demo tapes of The Enid (my current favorite), so I'm happy. The sound quality is crap though, but I'm not complaining. The record sleeve is actually autographed by Godfrey himself, and it's coloured vinyl, pretty cool. I have some other rarities by them, as well. No bootlegs, though, I can't seem to find 'em.


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"Art is not imitation, nor is it something manufactured according to the wishes of instinct or good taste. It is a process of expression."

-Merleau-Ponty


Posted By: ResidentAlien
Date Posted: December 12 2006 at 06:26
The quote provided by Hill in that article shows up NOWHERE else online.  The quote was that the bid "has proved to be bogus."

Also that article claims that Hill isn't much of a fan of VU... which is in contrast to the story on the auction itself that said that Hill and his friend had heard many VU outtakes between the two of them (suggesting in my mind at least that they are both big fans).

As it stands right now I think the only thing that "has proved to be bogus" is that article.

If I'm wrong, I'll eat my hat.


Posted By: Sean Trane
Date Posted: December 12 2006 at 06:35
Originally posted by ResidentAlien ResidentAlien wrote:

I saw it.  I'm not sure what Globe & Mail is, though.  I haven't had a chance to verify the site's validity yet.
 
Globe & Mail is Toronto's (and English Canada's)  most trustworthy newspaper and a reliable/serious source of info.
 
But paying so much for an acetate is ridiculous, no matter what the group or artist is. Acetates are demos (softer wax discs) that are meant to be played max 20 times before they degraded from stylus wear. In general the production was not yet finished and generally was used for internal use inside labels and maybe as demos to DJ's.
 
So outside the rarity, you are limited to the number of plays if the disc is not worn out already.


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Posted By: ResidentAlien
Date Posted: December 12 2006 at 06:45
Which is why on the auction page they recommended using a laser-player to read the acetate.


Posted By: Sean Trane
Date Posted: December 12 2006 at 06:58
Originally posted by ResidentAlien ResidentAlien wrote:

Which is why on the auction page they recommended using a laser-player to read the acetate.
 
Sure but what garantee do you have the disc has not been played 40 times already and is therefore unusable.


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let's just stay above the moral melee
prefer the sink to the gutter
keep our sand-castle virtues
content to be a doer
as well as a thinker,
prefer lifting our pen
rather than un-sheath our sword


Posted By: ResidentAlien
Date Posted: December 12 2006 at 07:02
I think the word of the seller that the sound is rather fairly good would have to suffice.  He himself said that there are two skips, one which could be smoothed out easily with digital manip, and some background noise which could be digitally reduced.  That's the best guarantee you have that it's still usable.  I think if it's properly archived ASAP, then it's a damn-good investment.


Posted By: Sean Trane
Date Posted: December 12 2006 at 07:08
Originally posted by ResidentAlien ResidentAlien wrote:

I think the word of the seller that the sound is rather fairly good would have to suffice.  He himself said that there are two skips, one which could be smoothed out easily with digital manip, and some background noise which could be digitally reduced.  That's the best guarantee you have that it's still usable.  I think if it's properly archived ASAP, then it's a damn-good investment.
 
 
CryCryCryCryOuchOuchOuchOuch
 
Exactly my point. This guy is not a music fan, he is a speculator. They ruin everything for  money


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let's just stay above the moral melee
prefer the sink to the gutter
keep our sand-castle virtues
content to be a doer
as well as a thinker,
prefer lifting our pen
rather than un-sheath our sword


Posted By: ResidentAlien
Date Posted: December 12 2006 at 07:12
Well wouldn't you rather the album get a proper release?  Who cares if he gets some profit?  As long as we're able to hear this recording, I think it's only fair if he's willing to invest in getting this licensed and released that he get something else out of it.

Granted... getting it licensed is the key thing.  The music doesn't belong to him--he'll have to get it okayed with whomever does own the copyright.


Posted By: Zac M
Date Posted: December 12 2006 at 13:06
Some more links:

http://www.nme.com/news/velvet-underground/25444 - http://www.nme.com/news/velvet-underground/25444

http://www.canada.com/topics/entertainment/story.html?id=c4763ce9-e08b-45de-871d-8e9c473c6adc&k=59674 - http://www.canada.com/topics/entertainment/story.html?id=c4763ce9-e08b-45de-871d-8e9c473c6adc&k=59674

http://www.thestar.com/NASApp/cs/ContentServer?pagename=thestar/Layout/Article_Type1&c=Article&cid=1165924325689&call_pageid=968332188492 - http://www.thestar.com/NASApp/cs/ContentServer?pagename=thestar/Layout/Article_Type1&c=Article&cid=1165924325689


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-Merleau-Ponty


Posted By: ResidentAlien
Date Posted: December 14 2006 at 04:56



Posted By: Zac M
Date Posted: December 14 2006 at 23:38
It's been relisted:

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1&item=300060897304&ssPageName=STRK:MEWA:IT&ih=020 - http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1&item=300060897304&ssPageName=STRK:MEWA:IT&ih=020


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"Art is not imitation, nor is it something manufactured according to the wishes of instinct or good taste. It is a process of expression."

-Merleau-Ponty


Posted By: The Miracle
Date Posted: December 14 2006 at 23:46
Why for a dollar?Confused

Will it rise that much over a week?


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Posted By: Zac M
Date Posted: December 14 2006 at 23:49
I was thinking the same thing myself....I'm kinda surprised it has no bids yet...

Maybe I should put a bid inLOL


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"Art is not imitation, nor is it something manufactured according to the wishes of instinct or good taste. It is a process of expression."

-Merleau-Ponty


Posted By: The Miracle
Date Posted: December 15 2006 at 00:04
Maybe you'll win

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Posted By: ResidentAlien
Date Posted: December 15 2006 at 04:09
Originally posted by The Miracle The Miracle wrote:

Why for a dollar?Confused

Will it rise that much over a week?


The first auction opened at $20 I'm pretty sure.  So yes... it will rise that much.


Posted By: ResidentAlien
Date Posted: December 17 2006 at 02:05
It's at $5,215 with 4 days to go still.


Posted By: ResidentAlien
Date Posted: December 17 2006 at 21:13
Holy hell!

$20,255.00 with 3 days and 19hrs left to go.  It'll be back up to $155,000 in no time.


Posted By: ResidentAlien
Date Posted: December 21 2006 at 21:05
How disappointing...

$25,000


Posted By: Zac M
Date Posted: December 21 2006 at 21:25
That is disappointing. 

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"Art is not imitation, nor is it something manufactured according to the wishes of instinct or good taste. It is a process of expression."

-Merleau-Ponty



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