The Beatles (the best beatle..)
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Topic: The Beatles (the best beatle..)
Posted By: The T
Subject: The Beatles (the best beatle..)
Date Posted: November 24 2006 at 20:00
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The Beatles are here in PA (and I for one think, is this case, they deserve this). So, which one of them was for you the best musician? Musician as in instrumentalist and also as in all-around knowledge and output of music.... I think neither one of them was a MASTER of their instrument (Ringo sucked until Abbey road, Lennon was talented but the music didn't ask for much... Harrison was gifted but nothing extraordinaire and McCartney, though a MONSTER melody-maker, was an average bass player....)
So my vite is for the 4 ------------- 
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Posted By: Turion
Date Posted: November 24 2006 at 20:13
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I have to agree, although I do not know much about the beatles, I think it was really a cooperation thing; but I could be really wrong :P ------------- ?: ( |
Posted By: The Wizard
Date Posted: November 24 2006 at 20:29
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None... but together they were the best... -------------  
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Posted By: Losendos
Date Posted: November 24 2006 at 20:45
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Harrison was the best player and McCartney the best song writer while Lennon was the best frontman so they kind of combined well. George Martin worked wonders with the arrangements. ------------- How wonderful to be so profound |
Posted By: Gyllir
Date Posted: November 24 2006 at 20:49
| All Things Must Pass is the best of the post Beatles solo albums, so... |
Posted By: FragileDT
Date Posted: November 24 2006 at 21:22
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Lennon is my favorite by far. I love his solo stuff and his words. BUT the best instrumentalist is definitely McCartney. Other than McCartney they weren't too good.
Overall, I had to vote for Lennon though, he's by far the best lyricist and the main reason I listen to the beatles. ------------- One likes to believe In the freedom of music But glittering prizes And endless Compromises Shatter the illusion Of integrity |
Posted By: Arrrghus
Date Posted: November 24 2006 at 21:35
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George Harrison is one of the most underrated guitar players ever (it seems the Rolling Stone got something right when they placed him in the top 25 guitarist ever). However, Ringo is a lot more innovative than people give him credit. My dad (a professionally-trained percussionist who is well aware and a big fan of the Beatles) credits Ringo as the first melodic (yes, I said melodic) rock drummer. Lennon, while not a pyrotechnic guitar player or flashy pianist, was an outstanding songwriter and I believe that indicates great musicianship. McCartney also is a great musician, probably the most talented of the group in terms of technical aspects. He is the only Beatle who can read music, and his songwriting ranks with Lennon's.
Each and every one 
Good poll.  ------------- 
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Posted By: The T
Date Posted: November 24 2006 at 22:08
Indeed. He's not an octopuss-like drummer like many today, but he added to the melody with some very simple-yet-precise tom-tom fills that followed the music... he had some interesting ideas. -------------
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Arrrghus wrote:Posted By: lunaticviolist
Date Posted: November 24 2006 at 22:27
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None of them was extremely skilled at his instrument, but Paul was
definitely the best. Just listen to the guitar solo on Taxman!
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Posted By: 1800iareyay
Date Posted: November 25 2006 at 11:48
| Paul was the best, but I voted for the four combined. The Beatles would not have been the success they were without the teamwork on each album, despite how much each member hated the other three |
Posted By: chessman
Date Posted: November 25 2006 at 11:49
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Got to be Paul McCartney. I remember the band well in the sixties (coming from Liverpool I couldn't avoid them! And my sister used to dance with Macca!)
They were not that popular at the time with people over a certain age. And even now I know more people who don't rate them than people who do in Liverpool. They just happened to be in the right place at the right time, like many are.
What makes me laugh is watching tourists visiting 'the Cavern', and saying 'Wow! The Beatles played here!' When, of course, they didn't. The original Cavern was demolished and is now a car park a little distance away.
 However, that is off topic, sorry! Paul could at least play a few different instruments, though he was no wizard at any of them. Interestingly enough, there was a programme on tv, I think around last Xmas time. He was at a Liverpool college, I think, with an audience. He was getting various people to make music with different objects, and then multi-tracking to create a song.
He himself laid down the drum track, then the bass, then rhythm guitar, then lead guitar. And he did it very well actually.
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Posted By: chopper
Date Posted: November 25 2006 at 15:00
Actually I don't think he can read music, he normally gets someone else to do that for him. He certainly used to work this way in the Beatles. When they had guest musicians in, he used to hum the tune he wanted them to play and leave them to work it out. |
Posted By: Sasquamo
Date Posted: November 25 2006 at 15:02
Do you know why he played so "melodic"? Because he couldn't play anything else. |
Posted By: Spacemac
Date Posted: November 30 2006 at 06:09
| Lennon |
Posted By: GentleSibarit
Date Posted: December 02 2007 at 03:11
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None of them were virtuosos but Lennon was the intellectual force behind the beatles and the one who pushed them to the realms of prog. George also experimented but he lacked the influence of Lennon within the band. So, I'd go for Lennon.
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Posted By: Atavachron
Date Posted: December 02 2007 at 03:13
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technically it was no contest; George |
Posted By: YesFan72
Date Posted: December 02 2007 at 20:56
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Posted By: sircosick
Date Posted: December 02 2007 at 21:00
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Paul McCartney; excellent singer and bass player. Also an accomplished multi-instrumentalist. And a hell of a composer.
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Posted By: Logan
Date Posted: December 02 2007 at 21:11
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I would have been very tempted to include George Martin in this poll.
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Posted By: A B Negative
Date Posted: December 03 2007 at 05:46
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Macca was the best bassist, guitarist, drummer and keyboard player of the Fab Four but that doesn't mean he wrote the best songs. My favourite Beatles song (She Said She Said) doesn't have any McCartney on it at all. ------------- "The disgusting stink of a too-loud electric guitar.... Now, that's my idea of a good time." |
Posted By: Prog-jester
Date Posted: December 03 2007 at 09:43
| Paul. He wasn't obssessed neither with Eastern stuff nor with politics, he was and is an immense musician, one of the best melodists of XXth century |
Posted By: Roskisdyykkari
Date Posted: December 03 2007 at 09:54
Exactly, and that is why I'll review the Beatles based on their song-writing ability... and voice... Paul McCartney Paul was (and still is) excellent at writing memorable pop or rock tunes, he's definitely one of the best composers of melody lines. He's also resposible of creating my other favorite genre, heavy metal, because he wrote Helter Skelter. Besides simple rock songs, he did also write more experimental stuff in the Beatles. First of all, the legendary orchestral crescendos in "A Day in the life" was his idea. Not to mention the Abbey Road Suite. Paul's singing voice is very pleasant, and also very raw when it's necessary. I actually like some of his basslines as well. The bass in "Rain" is AWESOME! He can also handle some other instruments quite well. John Lennon Compared to Paul, John was extremely "PROG". Of course he also wrote simple songs, but in my opinion he was way better at doing those psychedelic songs than Paul. Songs like I Am The Walrus, Strawberry Fields Forever, Being for the benefit of Mr. Kite and Lucy in the Sky With Diamonds are great examples of this. He could also rock, though. Just listen to Revolution or I want you (she's so heavy). I also like his voice very much. He could do soft and rather high-pitched vocals (Lucy in the sky with diamonds) or very raw vocals, which I prefer (I want you [She's so heavy]). He's one of my idols, no doubt, a true genius who was way ahead of his time. George Harrison George didn't write as much as Paul or John, but when he did, it was always at least good. He did many songs featuring the sitar, and I like them quite much because they are so different. George's guitar playing -style really did fit the sound of The Beatles, even though he might have not been technically that good. His voice is pretty similar to Lennon's, a bit softer though. It was quite good indeed. Ringo Starr Probably my least favorite. The songs he wrote weren't that good, his drumming wasn't great at all except for A Day in the Life or Rain maybe. I don't even like his voice really - With a little help from my friends would me much more listenable if it was sung by Lennon or Paul. It's difficult to decide between John and Paul. What comes to songwriting, they were similar, but also very different. I think I'll go with John, even though Paul is the king of melodies. ------------- And the sand-castle virtues are all swept away in the tidal destruction the moral melee. |
Posted By: Slartibartfast
Date Posted: December 03 2007 at 10:00
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The first to go, John, is my current favorite, although I was Wings fan before I became a zombie prog person.
I see a couple of positive comments about Ringo, but no votes.
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Posted By: Okocha
Date Posted: December 03 2007 at 17:24
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None...but together they were good.
I don't know how...
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