Dolphin Drive Hunts in Japan
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Topic: Dolphin Drive Hunts in Japan
Posted By: Tuzvihar
Subject: Dolphin Drive Hunts in Japan
Date Posted: November 20 2006 at 20:13
http://www.theoceanproject.org/actfordolphins/ - Awful...  
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Posted By: tardis
Date Posted: November 20 2006 at 20:15
 Guess what's cooking?  |
Posted By: Bastille Dude
Date Posted: November 20 2006 at 20:17
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I just signed Tuzvihar, thanks for information.
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Posted By: Norbert
Date Posted: November 21 2006 at 08:48
| Just signed. |
Posted By: Ricochet
Date Posted: November 21 2006 at 09:06
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not dolphins! walruses better...  ------------- 
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Posted By: Joolz
Date Posted: November 21 2006 at 09:45
| This has been going on for far too long ..... thanks for reminding us |
Posted By: oliverstoned
Date Posted: November 21 2006 at 09:50
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Signed... Some good news about the horrid asian dog/cat fur trade. There'll be some ADN tests here to check the fur's origin. Anyway, all animal's fur must boycotted. |
Posted By: Logos
Date Posted: November 21 2006 at 09:52
 100% agreed. |
oliverstoned wrote:Posted By: oliverstoned
Date Posted: November 21 2006 at 09:59
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Yes, mink or fox stock farming are almost as cruel as the asian barbarians...Synthetic fur looks as nice as animal's one, so it's pure cruelty and greed.
That should be forbidden, like Corrida and "Foie gras" (already forbidden in some countries BTW). |
Posted By: Philéas
Date Posted: November 21 2006 at 10:19
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This has been tried before, but the Japs don't seem to care. It doesn't
matter what we tell them, they haven't listened yet and they will
probably continue ignoring stuff like this petition. I do think it's
wrong to hunt dolphins the way they do, but I also think it's futile to
try to convince them. We haven't succeeded yet, why would we this time? [/pessimism] |
Posted By: jalas
Date Posted: November 21 2006 at 12:07
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Be careful what you wish for. I signed the petition, but I still insist that if God made the animals so delicious, then lets eat them. ------------- 
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Posted By: oliverstoned
Date Posted: November 21 2006 at 12:13
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It's not the fact that some people eat this or this animal which is so shoking, but rather the way they raise/hunt/kill it. "Modern" and cruel ways of fishing which consist to fish the more possible, all the fishes without distinction, including mothers and young will result that fish livestock will be exhausted in 2050. Here's what happens when you don't respect nature. |
Posted By: Tuzvihar
Date Posted: November 21 2006 at 12:41
I'm not a militant vegetarian. Don't worry. Actually, I can't imagine being one. I love meat! But, as oliverstoned pointed out, if we have to kill animals we should avoid causing their unnecessary suffering. ------------- "Music is much like f**king, but some composers can't climax and others climax too often, leaving themselves and the listener jaded and spent." Charles Bukowski |
Posted By: mystic fred
Date Posted: November 22 2006 at 03:29
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"products" claimed from hunting endangered species are not needed in this modern age, there are many alternatives!
species in severe danger of extinction-
      Pandas are the rarest bears and their forest habitat is fast disappearing. Forest loss is caused by expansion of agricultural land, intensive harvesting of timber, use of wood for fuel and other forest products, and overgrazing. Each year an area of forest larger than the UK is lost - a rate of 30 hectares every minute.
123 tigers left in Nepal. It's vital that we do everything we can to protect these beautiful creatures.
Orang-utans are now found only on the islands of Borneo and Sumatra. Habitat destruction and fragmentation - caused by commercial logging and clearance for oil palm plantations and agriculture - are by far the greatest threats that these amazing creatures face. If the current rate of deforestation continues, Borneo could lose most of its lowland forests in less than ten years.
Bottlenose dolphins are wild, intelligent and inquisitive mammals. Dolphins face a multitude of dangers, such as fishing, pollution, collisions with ships, entanglement in fishing gear and habitat degradation.
Asian elephant populations have decreased dramatically as their habitat is encroached upon by logging and agricultural clearance. Forest clearance is a worldwide problem destroying nature, damaging communities and distorting trade. Around half of the world's original forests have now disappeared, and they are still being removed at a rate ten times higher than any possible level of re-growth.
The greatest threat facing rhinos today is the demand for their horn, which is used in traditional Chinese medicine, and is traded illegally.
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Posted By: mystic fred
Date Posted: November 22 2006 at 03:34
yes - under controlled farming/free range conditions, but not rare species living wild ! most worrying is that most are in danger from having their natural habitat destroyed through deforestation and climatic conditions caused by pollution.
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Posted By: Australian
Date Posted: November 22 2006 at 03:34
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Done.
After restricting the Whale numbers hunted, now dolphins take their place. ------------- 
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Posted By: sleeper
Date Posted: November 22 2006 at 08:41
I wonder what he would say if Hhumans tasted good (not being a canabul I wouldnt know). ------------- Spending more than I should on Prog since 2005 
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Posted By: tardis
Date Posted: November 22 2006 at 20:54
Actually, they do taste good. Kind of like chicken. |
Posted By: valravennz
Date Posted: November 22 2006 at 21:04
Actually I read somewhere where Humans are supposed to taste like pork!!!
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Posted By: Norbert
Date Posted: November 23 2006 at 08:30
Cannibals say humans are delicious.
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Posted By: tardis
Date Posted: November 23 2006 at 14:33
And they're right!  |
Posted By: ViolinCyndee
Date Posted: November 24 2006 at 00:55
I absolutely agree!  ------------- http://cdbaby.com/cd/cyndeeleerule www.cyndeeleerule.com |
Posted By: Norbert
Date Posted: November 24 2006 at 07:52
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In the ancient Hellas the slaying of dolphins had the same legal consequences as murder/manslaughter. Now, they are massacred for pet food and ferrtilizer.And they say it's a cultural tradition.
I would support a legislation which punishes the slaying or tormenting of dolphins, whales and apes in harder, than the usual animal abuses are get punished.
That kind of law will maybe passed in Spain, which gives a lot more protection to chimps ,bonobos gorillas, orangs. This law would give rights to them, what would be really groundbreaking.
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Posted By: Kimoi
Date Posted: November 24 2006 at 09:36
Oh dear. Who are the 'Japs' ? Accidental racist slur ? |
Posted By: sleeper
Date Posted: November 24 2006 at 10:34
How about just short for Japanese. There are worse things to call people that come from that part of the world. ------------- Spending more than I should on Prog since 2005
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Posted By: Kimoi
Date Posted: November 24 2006 at 10:38
Do you want to retract this or are you happy to show your ignorance ? |
Posted By: Kimoi
Date Posted: November 24 2006 at 10:40
Please tell us all the 'worse things'. I'm sure we would all love to hear it |
Posted By: sleeper
Date Posted: November 24 2006 at 10:45
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^Can someone say "oversensative". I've never heard that term used in a derogatory manner, as for the other terms I wont post them because they are ment to be offensive and its against forum rules, and completely pointless too. I've noticed you've only joined today and allready your trying to cause trouble in Cuncuna's thread and the VR. ------------- Spending more than I should on Prog since 2005
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Posted By: Philéas
Date Posted: November 24 2006 at 11:21
Since when was "japs" a racist word? |
Posted By: Kimoi
Date Posted: November 24 2006 at 21:19
JapFrom Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Wiktionary-logo-en.png -
Jap (variants: Japo, Japse) is a term denoting anything http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Japan - Japanese . In most English-speaking countries, it is accepted that it is a derogatory racial slur similar to the term http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nigger - nigger when referring to dark skinned people. The three-letter and two-letter international country code ( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ISO_3166 - ISO 3166 ) for Japan, JPN and JP, are commonly used for the abbreviation of Japan. In some countries, such as http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Australia - Australia , it is still used today to such an extent that school teachers sometimes refer to the http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Japanese_language - Japanese language or people as "Jap(s)"[ http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Citing_sources - citation needed ]. In Britain it is considered mildly inappropriate but not a serious insult (cf http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paki - Paki which is grossly offensive in British English yet not uncommon as a ethnic description in the United States). In Japanese dictionaries, the term "Jap" is only defined as a disparaging term used against the Japanese people, like it is the case in many English language dictionaries. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jap#_note-0 - [1] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jap#_note-1 - [2] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jap#_note-1 - |
Posted By: sleeper
Date Posted: November 24 2006 at 21:30
Strange that, I'm British and I havnt heard it being used as an insult but just as an abreviated form of Japanese. Do you consider it a racial slur? ------------- Spending more than I should on Prog since 2005
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Posted By: Kimoi
Date Posted: November 24 2006 at 21:35
Very much so. I don't want to sound like a bleedin' hippy but if you were using this word whilst walking around Osaka late at night it would be the quickest way to lose some teeth |
Posted By: sleeper
Date Posted: November 24 2006 at 21:39
Fair enough then, on this side of the world it isnt consider so, but if it is in Japan, then who am I to complain? ------------- Spending more than I should on Prog since 2005
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Posted By: Kimoi
Date Posted: November 24 2006 at 22:06
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Good on ya Sleeper! |
Posted By: Ghandi 2
Date Posted: November 24 2006 at 22:47
| Bah, a petition has never accomplished anything. I still signed it, but it's a waste of time. |