Karn Evil 9 vs. Tarkus
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Topic: Karn Evil 9 vs. Tarkus
Posted By: Sweetnighter
Subject: Karn Evil 9 vs. Tarkus
Date Posted: January 19 2005 at 16:20
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I personally feel that this poll is unfair, as I LOVE KE9! Maybe some of you are more attached to tarkus.
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Posted By: Garion81
Date Posted: January 19 2005 at 16:22
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I love KE9 also but Tarkus was the first love. That organ solo in stones of years is just fantastic.
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Posted By: richardh
Date Posted: January 19 2005 at 17:00
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Tarkus was my favourite up to about when I was 17,KE9 thereafter.In my opinion KE9 has more depth and works better as a complete peice of music. |
Posted By: threefates
Date Posted: January 19 2005 at 17:16
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I'm with Richard.. as much as I love hearing Greg sing Battlefield.. I too think KE9 is a more cohesive and technically perfect piece of music. And I guess since I get the lyrics.. in both pieces I don't have the problem some do with KE9. The guitar solo in KE9 is pretty special to me also.... ------------- THIS IS ELP 
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Posted By: penguindf12
Date Posted: January 19 2005 at 17:23
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I like Tarkus a bit better...mainly because Karn Evil 9 (3rd Impression)'s lyrics are a bit....er, rediculous? But the 1st impression is extremely good, the 2nd impression is nice, and the 3rd's music is good, but the lyrics....eck. But I think all of Tarkus is good. |
Posted By: Vegetableman
Date Posted: January 19 2005 at 17:34
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Karn Evil 9, although I really see it as three songs rather than one. ------------- "Mister Fripp, your music is quite different than everything else out there. In one word, how would you describe it?" "Progressive.... yeah, that's it..." |
Posted By: nacho
Date Posted: January 19 2005 at 17:41
| I agree with Sweetnighter: this poll is completely unfair. I love both equally, so I'm not voting... |
Posted By: bobthesalesman
Date Posted: January 19 2005 at 18:16
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Tarkus! |
Posted By: bobthesalesman
Date Posted: January 19 2005 at 18:17
Exactly. Tarkus was my first taste of ELP...kinda like the other poll...CTTE was my first taste of Yes. |
Garion81 wrote:Posted By: Wizard/TRueStar
Date Posted: January 19 2005 at 18:55
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The version of Tarkus on Ladies and Gentlemen gets my vote! |
Posted By: gdub411
Date Posted: January 19 2005 at 19:31
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How you could define KE9 as a more complete piece when it is all disjointed, there are pauses in the music and such and Tarkus is just one song with no breaks. Also KE9 sometimes feeels like they asked thmmselves...What if we played it with just keyboard or slowed it down, etc....it is VERY experimental but still doesn't seem VERY cohesive...Great concept and works well with a concept album, but too disjointed when defined as a song. My vote went to Tarkus. |
Posted By: Vibrationbaby
Date Posted: January 19 2005 at 19:42
| NO,NO,NO Tarkus is their piece de resistance, the first side. It is so full. OK, OK,OK I will agree that it slides off on side two but Trakus musically and conceptuelly does it for me. As I mentioned on an earlier thread I paid $50 for a newly released vinyl copy of the album last summer! |
Posted By: threefates
Date Posted: January 19 2005 at 20:02
You're kidding me right... Tarkus has completely separate songs.. in stones of Years, mass, battlefield...aquatarkus... more separations than between the 3 parts of KE9... KE9 is like watching an ice skating event... you start off with the slow beautiful skating with all the jumps.. then you enter that middle part which is all speedy footwork, then you have the ending climax which builds to a huge finale... except instead of applause... your computer explodes... Can't get more cohesive than that!! ------------- THIS IS ELP
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Posted By: Reed Lover
Date Posted: January 19 2005 at 20:09
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Given that you believe ELP to be perfect, and perfect is an absolute (ie something cannot be more perfect or less perfect-just for you Southern gals out there) how can any piece of ELP music be better or worse than any other?
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Posted By: gdub411
Date Posted: January 19 2005 at 20:10
Know your place Tf and go make me a sandwich. |
Posted By: Reed Lover
Date Posted: January 19 2005 at 20:13
You need more practice Gdub.Try: Hey Threefates, get your bitch ass in the kitchen and make me some pie!
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Posted By: gdub411
Date Posted: January 19 2005 at 20:16
My ideal woman would be one with a flat head so I have somewhere to set my beer. |
Posted By: Reed Lover
Date Posted: January 19 2005 at 20:17
No, your ideal woman would have balls! -------------
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Posted By: gdub411
Date Posted: January 19 2005 at 20:21
a chick with a d##k.....hmmm! Now there's a thought. |
Posted By: threefates
Date Posted: January 19 2005 at 20:50
The same way it is that you can come into such a perfect thread and add nothing relevant whatsoever.... ------------- THIS IS ELP
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Posted By: threefates
Date Posted: January 19 2005 at 20:51
Your ass is already a pie... ------------- THIS IS ELP
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Posted By: threefates
Date Posted: January 19 2005 at 20:54
No Gdub's ideal woman would be a man with big tits...
Course I've heard you've put some weight on, Reed, since this picture was taken... in your butt, no less... ------------- THIS IS ELP
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Posted By: Abbath
Date Posted: January 19 2005 at 21:19
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Tough choice, I mean you gotta love KE9 and the awsome theme! But
Tarkus just seems a bit more natural. I love the piano interlude in
KE9, but I must say it does seem a bit like the band said: "Hey, we can play jazz right? Let's give the listeners a good 10 minute jazzy interlude, that'll show em'!". But boy, are they ever both great songs. |
Posted By: Reed Lover
Date Posted: January 19 2005 at 21:25
damn that photo! Them's not breasts.......its ..err..... a pigeon chest????
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Posted By: Sweetnighter
Date Posted: January 19 2005 at 21:47
Sweet shirt Reed Lover... although don't you think a bra would make it look better?  I'm surprised nobody mentioned Aquatarkus as a reason why they like that epic better. I love that synth solo!! With the more rounded wah synth sound in the right speaker and the more distorted one in the left (if you hadn't noticed that check it out, its cool) and the slow military drum cresendo... pure awesomeness. ------------- I bleed coffee. When I don't drink coffee, my veins run dry, and I shrivel up and die. "Banco Del Mutuo Soccorso? Is that like the bank of Italian soccer death or something?" -my girlfriend |
Posted By: threefates
Date Posted: January 19 2005 at 21:51
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Posted By: gdub411
Date Posted: January 19 2005 at 22:32
| Anyways back to the topic..To me Karn Evil sounds like many songs all related to each other. Maybe there are 3 different topics on Tarkus, but Tarkus sounds like one complete piece, compared to many parts piecemealed together and lumped as one song. They wouldn't have given 8 impressions if it flowed like a standard song, now would they? |
Posted By: starofsirius
Date Posted: January 19 2005 at 23:34
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Tarkus for me. I could listen to that all the time. Greg's voice is perfect throughout that whole song. Stones of Years is such an awesome section of that song the organ, bass and drums are all so perfect. An amazing track, I love the armadillo tank too, I think thats the coolest thing. ------------- "I'm in a freefall like a snowflake falling down down down down down." |
Posted By: threefates
Date Posted: January 19 2005 at 23:58
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Where'd 8 impressions come from? Battlefield sounds nothing like Aquatarkus that comes afterwards... even less than the 2nd Impression sounds like the 3rd. The 3 Impressions are impressions of one song... no separate name or title... whereas the songs of Tarkus have completely different names... The first impression has 2 separate musical ideas that make up 1 Impression which sets the state of change thruout the piece.. However my love KE9 is probably based on the fact that since the BSS Tour, I've seen Tarkus performed at nearly every concert. But after that tour.. they never did the entire 3 Impressions together again. Just the 1st one. But watching all 3 Impressions done on the BSS tour, is one of the most spectacular things I've ever seen... ------------- THIS IS ELP
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Posted By: richardh
Date Posted: January 20 2005 at 02:48
| Karn Evil 9 is a much grander idea that explores a futuristic theme in 3 movements.Tarkus is a series of peices.By it's nature it's disjointed.The sum of the parts are not greater IMO.I'm genuinely surprised at some of the comments and the current poll result.I was getting a tad 'bored' with Tarkus even in my teens.It should be highly regarded of course as a ground breaking peice but KE9 has stood the test of time a lot better IMO. |
Posted By: Guests
Date Posted: January 29 2005 at 08:11
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This is an outragious poll ok! Brain salad surgery was a an album to me that advanced the bands style years over night...I do listern to BSS a hell of a lot more than i do Tarkus,but have a kinda preference to Tarkus,not in a one better than the other way but i feel the BSS recording pretty poor compared to the older albums that kinda irritates me a bit.But @ the end of the day i'm not gonna compare no way.. |
Posted By: gdub411
Date Posted: January 29 2005 at 10:25
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The proof of Tarkus's superiority lies in the results of the poll. While polls cannot be truly guaged here, I cannot see why anyone would be so obsessed with pushing one song over the other...since we're arguing the same band afterall. |
Posted By: benny bouncer
Date Posted: January 29 2005 at 12:31
| I dont think i can vote lol.....i think both KE9 and Tarkus are progressive rock masterpieces. Both never cease to amaze me when i hear them...and i have listened to them MANY times lol....but i couldn't vote one above the other.... |
Posted By: Trotsky
Date Posted: August 10 2005 at 03:24
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Tarkus for me ... I never lose interest in any part of it ... even though KE9 probably has more variations, there are also parts where I lose interest ... sometimes ------------- "Death to Utopia! Death to faith! Death to love! Death to hope?" thunders the 20th century. "Surrender, you pathetic dreamer.” "No" replies the unhumbled optimist "You are only the present." |
Posted By: R o V e R
Date Posted: August 10 2005 at 03:34
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difficult poll i'm not going to vote. |
Posted By: Raff
Date Posted: August 10 2005 at 03:51
Mine too! It is totally awesome, both vocally and instrumentally. But KE9 comes a very close second... |
Posted By: Jeremy Bender
Date Posted: August 10 2005 at 05:35
Karn Evil 9!!!! Duh
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Posted By: Ricochet
Date Posted: August 10 2005 at 06:28
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Tarkus is my choice...
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Posted By: Bj-1
Date Posted: August 10 2005 at 17:50
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Can't decide!!!! They are both amazing pieces of music!!!! ------------- RIO/AVANT/ZEUHL - The best thing you can get with yer pants on! |
Posted By: edge
Date Posted: August 11 2005 at 10:39
| Tarkus! |
Posted By: King of Loss
Date Posted: August 11 2005 at 15:57
| TARKUS! |
Posted By: Guests
Date Posted: August 11 2005 at 17:20
| STILL... YOU TURN ME ON |
Posted By: Maike
Date Posted: August 12 2005 at 19:43
| Can I pick both??? |