Pain of Salvation: Scarsick
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Topic: Pain of Salvation: Scarsick
Posted By: kashedguy
Subject: Pain of Salvation: Scarsick
Date Posted: November 14 2006 at 13:48
Found this earlier today; thought I would share the info with you all. Tracklist: 01. Scarsick 02. Spitfall 03. Cribcaged 04. America 05. Disco Queen 06. Kingdom Of Loss 07. Mrs. Modern Mother Mary 08. Idiocracy 09. Flame To The Moth 10. Enter Rain Info found at http://www.insideout.de/indexx.php?arg=AgcEGgRORVdTHVIC ------------- http://www.last.fm/user/kashedguy/?chartstyle=OpethMR"> 
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Posted By: MikeEnRegalia
Date Posted: November 14 2006 at 13:52
Spitfall? *trying to get the image of falling spit out of my head* 
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Posted By: sleeper
Date Posted: November 14 2006 at 14:28
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Kingdom Of Loss? I wonder if thats a TPE referance? ------------- Spending more than I should on Prog since 2005 
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Posted By: MikeEnRegalia
Date Posted: November 14 2006 at 14:32
^ It's also the name of their website/fanclub.
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Posted By: sleeper
Date Posted: November 14 2006 at 14:34
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^That I know, but considering King Of Loss was on TPE 1, I would have expected a song titled Kingdom Of Loss to be on TPE 2 (and when the hell will they be getting round to do that!?)
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Posted By: chamberry
Date Posted: November 14 2006 at 14:59
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Good news. It's not much, but at least they have something to keep us thinking about.
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Posted By: Asphalt
Date Posted: November 14 2006 at 15:27
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arghhh... I cannot wait any longer!!!! PoS! now!... u-ga-cha-ga, u-ga-cha-ga!!! WARNING: prog may lead to serious brain damage  |
Posted By: Proghat
Date Posted: November 14 2006 at 15:34
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First scarsick, now Spitfall, Cribcaged, Disco Queen, Mrs. Modern Mother Mary, Idiocracy and America? Where do they get these reatarded names??? Also, I am pretty excited for this. |
Posted By: OpethGuitarist
Date Posted: November 14 2006 at 16:13
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names are dumb but im sure PoS will impress will be interesting to see how they do things without their former bassist ------------- back from the dead, i will begin posting reviews again and musing through the forums |
Posted By: sleeper
Date Posted: November 14 2006 at 16:16
Well Daniel's done all the bass work this time out and I think he writes most of the music anyway, its who they get in to replace Kristoffer Gildenlow for when they go on tour that I'm worried about. ------------- Spending more than I should on Prog since 2005
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OpethGuitarist wrote:Posted By: OpethGuitarist
Date Posted: November 14 2006 at 16:22
they should get me even though i play guitar ------------- back from the dead, i will begin posting reviews again and musing through the forums |
Posted By: sleeper
Date Posted: November 14 2006 at 16:38
Well, I have a 6 string bass, so I think I'm a bit farther up the queue. ------------- Spending more than I should on Prog since 2005
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Posted By: stonebeard
Date Posted: November 14 2006 at 16:45
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I have a good feeling Flame to the Moth and Enter Rain will be the best songs. I'm beginning to think there's a concept behind putting two words together for three consecutive song titles (Scarsick-Spitfall-Cribcaged). ------------- http://soundcloud.com/drewagler" rel="nofollow - My soundcloud. Please give feedback if you want! |
Posted By: el böthy
Date Posted: November 14 2006 at 17:25
yeeeeeeeeah... you keep working on that, see how it goes huhuhu Cant wait! ------------- "You want me to play what, Robert?" 
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Posted By: Moatilliatta
Date Posted: November 14 2006 at 17:33
I don't think they are. I forgot where I read it, but I don't think they plan on writing a part 2.
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Posted By: Asphalt
Date Posted: November 14 2006 at 18:05
| ^ actually they are, but in an interview some time ago Daniel said it's not going to be too soon and that they don't feel, in any way, pressed to write the sequel |
Posted By: sleeper
Date Posted: November 14 2006 at 18:29
I remember reading the interview on here with DG and he said that its possible after this album (Scarsick). ------------- Spending more than I should on Prog since 2005
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Posted By: enteredwinter
Date Posted: November 14 2006 at 19:29
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With names like Idiocracy and America, my guess is that POS has joined the Bush-hating that a lot of bands, prog and otherwise, put into their lyrics these days (not saying that's a bad thing, I happen to agree with the sentiment generally) Assuming that's the route they've taken, I just hope it isn't as overdone and literal as in the recent Muse album. The lyrics to IQ's Harvest of Souls are a good example of how to do this sort of thing right. |
Posted By: ResidentAlien
Date Posted: November 14 2006 at 20:27
Scarsick Spitfall Cribcaged Car Sick Pitfall Ribcage .... ^? |
Posted By: NotSoKoolAid
Date Posted: November 15 2006 at 01:11
Pain of Salvation has tackled a lot of controversial issues, poorly I might add. Their first two albums featured many horrible concepts I could not tolerate, and they weren't convincing at all (not to mention I think they're trashy neo-hippies). The music is normally average or above, but the political thought is generally best left out of music in my opinion. Musicians are not usually experts on war, economy, government, or anything really.... except music (if that!). Just play the music and shutup I say.
With song titles like those, I presume Gildenlow will continue disliking America and its policies (where many of his fans are from). If that's all not insulting enough, try this. Gildenlow refused to tour the United States with the Flower Kings a few years back because he didn't want the American Government to have his fingerprints (which you must do in order to enter of course). What a hippy, like I said.
I hope he doesn't stoop down to his previous levels again, I just want some quality music. The entertainers of our world frequently take idiotic stances, and beyond that this guy's not George Orwell.
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Posted By: martinprog77
Date Posted: November 15 2006 at 03:00
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WARNING: prog may lead to serious brain damage [/QUOTE] you may need a brain salad surgery  ------------- Nothing can last there are no second chances. Never give a day away. Always live for today. |
Posted By: MikeEnRegalia
Date Posted: November 15 2006 at 03:06
^  I also don't like it when bands become overly political ... but statements like "just play the music and shutup" are not ok either. Ever heard of a concept called "Freedom of Speech"? And about the fingerprints: "which you must do in order to enter of course". Well, I guess the department of homeland security has done its job very well ... when it was created many people of my country compared it to the "Propagandaministerium". If they managed to convince you that fundamental principles of justice (like that someone is innocent until proven guilty) don't apply to foreign visitors, then I guess that Michael Moore had a point after all. And your last statement ... well, maybe you'd like to live in a society like the one described in "1984" ... where only apolitical music is allowed, everybody's fingerprints are recorded etc. ... I do not. BTW: I do agree though that PoS are not very good at political or socially critical songs - to me songs like Dea Pecuniae seem quite pretentious ... bland and childish. But if that's what they want to do (be), then I'll accept it - and listen to something else. ------------- https://awesomeprog.com/users/Mike" rel="nofollow">Recently listened to:
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Posted By: Norbert
Date Posted: November 15 2006 at 10:11
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I rather agree with Mike's post.
If someone is not a real expert of something, one is still free to express one's opinion.
And Daniel studied some of the issues which are dealt with on OHBTCL. Lack of water is one of the biggest problems on Earth, and it will just get worse.
On the other hand daily political themes are not very good to deal with in lyrics.Political lyrics are rarely enduring, they get old very quickly. They hardly will have any validity in some years from now.
There are rare exceptions like Marillion's Forgotten Sons which basically still appeals.
I think that Winnig a War is OK too as a song.
There are far worse" preaching" artists than Pain of Salvation.
"Shut up and play the music" belongs to dictatorships.
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Posted By: E-Dub
Date Posted: November 15 2006 at 12:00
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<<"Shut up and play the music" belongs to dictatorships.>>
Or for people who wish they'd play the music rather than using it as their own personal soapbox. E ------------- 
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Posted By: MikeEnRegalia
Date Posted: November 15 2006 at 12:14
I like what they did on Entropia and OHbtCL ... but some parts of Be make me cringe with embarassment.  ------------- https://awesomeprog.com/users/Mike" rel="nofollow">Recently listened to:
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Posted By: toolsofthetrade
Date Posted: November 15 2006 at 13:05
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Oh god...horrible song titles...i'm worried it'll be 10 000 days all over again...
but i'm sure POS won't let me down. They never have. *looks down at OHBTCL* oh wait, yes they have ------------- Tool backwards is Loot. Best signature EVAR! Now smell my mattress! |
Posted By: Dalezilla
Date Posted: November 15 2006 at 13:10
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Well the song names are quite terrible, but of course you can't judge the songs by their names. I thought that Octavarium was going to be good judging by the names of the songs. I was wrong. I don't really like that cover either.
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Posted By: Anthony
Date Posted: November 15 2006 at 13:14
Perhaps they're fooling the fans and "Scarsick" is just a subtitle for TPE2. (or am I now saying something really stupid?) ------------- Future prosperity lies in the way you heal the world with love (Introitus - The hand that feeds you) |
Posted By: Selkie
Date Posted: November 15 2006 at 13:33
| erk, Scarsick sounds horrificaly emo. Is Gildenlow going to get an asymmetrical haircut and wear girl-pants? |
Posted By: sleeper
Date Posted: November 15 2006 at 15:22
By the looks of things this is going to have a more political concept to it so I doubt its TPE2 in disuise. ------------- Spending more than I should on Prog since 2005
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Posted By: stonebeard
Date Posted: November 15 2006 at 17:22
Excuse my soon-to-be-obvious bias, but Gildenlow could get drunk and light his instrument on fire and it would sound better than anything Tool could ever hope to write. ------------- http://soundcloud.com/drewagler" rel="nofollow - My soundcloud. Please give feedback if you want! |
Posted By: MikeEnRegalia
Date Posted: November 15 2006 at 17:25
Yes ... he'll be wearing a flower costume next. ------------- https://awesomeprog.com/users/Mike" rel="nofollow">Recently listened to:
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Posted By: stonebeard
Date Posted: November 15 2006 at 17:28
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I have confidence this album will be one of PoS's best. I believe them when they say the guitars are amazing-sounding, and I just have a good feel about it. ------------- http://soundcloud.com/drewagler" rel="nofollow - My soundcloud. Please give feedback if you want! |
Posted By: Arsillus
Date Posted: November 15 2006 at 17:35
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Looks good. The cover kind of bugs me and the song titles are "interesting," but I'm only concerned with good music. I bought my first PoS album a few weeks ago (TPE1) and it certainly is very interesting, but it's still growing on me, not quite up to all the hype it gets. We shall see though! |
Posted By: sleeper
Date Posted: November 15 2006 at 18:14
It can take a while, every PoS album has needed to grow on me, but in the end If come to the conclusion that there's no such thing as a bad POS album. ------------- Spending more than I should on Prog since 2005
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Posted By: Drew
Date Posted: November 15 2006 at 18:20
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Posted By: NotSoKoolAid
Date Posted: November 15 2006 at 23:35
Newsflash:
"Just play the music and shutup" is freedom of speech on my part.
 Many of you didn't like my comment, it was crude, but look beyond my anger for the real message. If I had the power to stop Gildenlow from spewing politics through music and touring I wouldn't. I just don't like his opinions as I said, I only enjoy his ability to create music (sometimes).
If you don't understand, please don't reply, as I will not rant about German politics... Let alone Swedish. |
Posted By: MikeEnRegalia
Date Posted: November 16 2006 at 02:46
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^ I know what you mean - of course you're free to dislike them and tell everyone about it. I just meant that for bands whose members are politically/socially motivated, it would be wrong to just lock politics out of their music. That would seem kind of phony to me - although it could work of course. We'll see how it turns out when they release the album ... a song called "America" *must* be politically motivated. ------------- https://awesomeprog.com/users/Mike" rel="nofollow">Recently listened to:
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Posted By: Norbert
Date Posted: November 16 2006 at 08:16
Well if you don't play instrumental music you have to write the lyrics about something.
Writing Kobaian lyrics is also a possible choice.
Many icons of music might be accused for using it as their own personal soapbox.
I prefer these guys a lot over the ones who sing about dragons and swords.
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Posted By: OpethGuitarist
Date Posted: November 16 2006 at 09:01
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i think the main point here is that political lyrics have a significant effect on the art and our likeness to it in the 60's and 70's, it is my guess(though i could be completely wrong) that this kind of thing was accepted, whereas today it is looked at almost laughingly, because you have people with little to no higher education discussing world issues, its just extremely pretentious, perhaps moreso than any other artistic expression, is to assume you know what is best for over 6 billion people when you yourself have little educational background, and even those that do have little ground to speak. Most of the time bands go about these things in the incorrect manner, and often I see it as a desire for more power, flack, clout, whatever you will that results from a variety of reasons. ------------- back from the dead, i will begin posting reviews again and musing through the forums |
Posted By: E-Dub
Date Posted: November 16 2006 at 09:51
Eh? Who listens to music about dragons and swords? That's not what my prog consists of. Maybe with the exception of Glass Hammer. E -------------
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Posted By: OpethGuitarist
Date Posted: November 16 2006 at 10:56
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^^ agreed' maybe hes thinking power metal? I also see he is extremely obsessed with politics, based on the lyrics he's chosen for his sig, so Ill refrain from more comment as I don't like getting into political discussions (usually ends in mudslinging that is not beneficial to either party) ------------- back from the dead, i will begin posting reviews again and musing through the forums |
Posted By: toolsofthetrade
Date Posted: November 16 2006 at 11:19
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`Excuse my soon-to-be-obvious bias, but Gildenlow could get drunk and light his instrument on fire and it would sound better than anything Tool could ever hope to write.'
O.K firstly i think its abundantly clear that i like Pain of Salvation - by mentioning that only OHBTCL (which i still think is a good album) has let me down, i'm implying that all their others haven't, since i didn't mention them. POS are actually my second favourite band (after guess who) Secondly i was actually criticising tool in that post. 10 000 days is a horrible album and i was expressing my disdain of that album (indirectly) Thirdly that actually made me laugh. You fanboy. Fourthly you like neo-prog. And Dream Theater. `Nuff said. ------------- Tool backwards is Loot. Best signature EVAR! Now smell my mattress! |
Posted By: OpethGuitarist
Date Posted: November 16 2006 at 12:06
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Ok, let's take that kind of bickering somewhere else please, thanks.
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Posted By: stonebeard
Date Posted: November 16 2006 at 15:28
It's more fun when it's in public.  ------------- http://soundcloud.com/drewagler" rel="nofollow - My soundcloud. Please give feedback if you want! |
Posted By: chamberry
Date Posted: November 16 2006 at 16:11
And entertaining to watch. -------------
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Posted By: OpethGuitarist
Date Posted: November 16 2006 at 17:11
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*sigh* w/e floats your boat ------------- back from the dead, i will begin posting reviews again and musing through the forums |
Posted By: Equality 7-2521
Date Posted: November 28 2006 at 10:33
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http://www.myspace.com/insideoutamerica - http://www.myspace.com/insideoutamerica A full track is posted up there. Seems we were all correct in assuming an anti-American feel to the album, but I had hoped it would at least be done intelligently, but if the lyrics to this song are any indication then my hopes aren't being realized. The song itself I don't particularly like. I think it resembles System of a Down at points more than it does POS (that's not a compliment). However, I still have high hopes that the rest of the album can deliver. ------------- "One had to be a Newton to notice that the moon is falling, when everyone sees that it doesn't fall. " |
Posted By: TheProgtologist
Date Posted: November 28 2006 at 10:41
But it gives me headaches. Everyone be civil and respectful please. -------------  |
Posted By: TheProgtologist
Date Posted: November 28 2006 at 10:46
I hardly ever openly criticize but that track sounds absolutely terrible. They have lost me,I will not listen to an album full of US bashing. What a jerk Gildenlow turned into. ------------- |
Posted By: Jared
Date Posted: November 28 2006 at 11:21
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^^ I'm fairly underwelmed by the PoS track on first listen, which is an awful shame. Personally, the SB doesn't fare much better either, but that's another story.
I also think the America bashing is really quite hackneyed now, too. America is after all only one arm of Western Civilisation, all of which is suffering from the same social problems to a greater or lesser extent.
I think it's one thing for the Offspring to moan about their own country, but quite another for those little scrotes from Green Day to jump on the bandwagon, while I'm sure that Eskilstuna has enough social ills of its own to explore musically!! ------------- Music has always been a matter of energy to me. On some nights I believe that a car with the needle on empty can run 50 more miles if you have the right music very loud on the radio. Hunter S Thompson |
Posted By: Dalezilla
Date Posted: November 28 2006 at 11:58
Damnit! The song sounds alright, but I just hate US bashing. I'd like to enjoy their new album, but if the lyrics are like this I don't know if I'll be able to. 
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Posted By: el böthy
Date Posted: November 28 2006 at 12:56
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Wow, POS has started the biggest controversy in prog since Tales of topographic oceans... and the album is not even out! ajajjaja This track does sound rather mainstream and not as Pain of Salvation-like as the others, but lets see how that turns out to be, I mean as a whole. I also thought POS was more mainstream that what they are cause the first song I heard from them was Ashes, which was released as a single and did sound more in the nü metal direction, but once you listen to the album as a whole, it all fits so perfectly. I for one stand with Gildenlöw with this one, Bush needs all the bad talking about him as possible. I cant believe how personal some folks from the United States are taking this, saying that Gildenlöw has become a jerk. Im pretty sure Gildenlöw would not be getting so much hate if he bashed another country or president ------------- "You want me to play what, Robert?"
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Posted By: Dalezilla
Date Posted: November 28 2006 at 13:00
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^Actually I'm insulted by this just as much as Jody is eventhough I'm not American. Also "I'm sick of America" and "I'm sick of Bush" are two different things. To me the song sounds more like bashing America in general than Bush. And that to me is an insult. I have a lot of friends in the US and to me the song sounds the same as someone singing "I'm sick of *insert your best friend's name here*!"
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Posted By: TheProgtologist
Date Posted: November 28 2006 at 13:36
Yeah,I take it very personally.I laid my life on the line for my country.It's not perfect,but I will not put money in someone's pocket who bashes it. ------------- |
Posted By: el böthy
Date Posted: November 28 2006 at 13:37
Why? Im asking friendly, I know why someone form the States would get offended, but I would like to know why you or others that dont live or are ot from the States are insulted? Cause to me "insulted" is too much, just because one song, but again I dont mean to offend anybody. But you know what I find insulting? People form the States (and other countrys cause they also do it) calling only themself Americans, Im an american too you know? ------------- "You want me to play what, Robert?"
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Posted By: el böthy
Date Posted: November 28 2006 at 13:40
Fare enough I guess Where you in the Army Jody? ------------- "You want me to play what, Robert?"
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Posted By: Dalezilla
Date Posted: November 28 2006 at 13:42
I edited my post. I think you'll find the answers there.
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Posted By: TheProgtologist
Date Posted: November 28 2006 at 13:44
10 years.Also a Gulf War vet with a Purple Heart and a Bronze Star. ------------- |
Posted By: el böthy
Date Posted: November 28 2006 at 13:49
I read it, and I see what you mean. I would have to read the lyrics carefully, now I cant, Im going in about 5 minutes, but I think what you are doing is a big generalization...but then again it seem that so does Gildenlöw, so its hard to tell. But then again there is no right and wrong here, just opinions, and I respect yours and everybody else  ------------- "You want me to play what, Robert?"
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Posted By: Dalezilla
Date Posted: November 28 2006 at 13:56
Yeah, well I just really don't like part where he sings "I'm sick of America". I don't really know the exact reason why I'm offended by that. Here in Finland everyone bashes America everyday and I find it really annoying. I've been quite angry recently because like I said everyone here bashes the US and now on top of that even my favourite musician is doing that. For whatever reason this just makes me angry. A small part of the reason is that a lot of Finns think that Canada and the US are the same thing. I'm Canadian and bashing USA in Finland is the often the same as bashing Canada and that makes me angry. But that's only a small part of the reason. The big part is the simple fact that with all the problems America has I still like it and don't like it being offended.
I too respect your opinions. No hard feelings mate!
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Posted By: Littlewashu5
Date Posted: November 28 2006 at 14:05
This pretty much sums up my opinion on this "issue" perfectly. Gildenlow is a megalomaniac pure and simple. |
Posted By: Arsillus
Date Posted: November 28 2006 at 14:23
It's just a tasteless song. It doesn't even sound good. I know my country isn't the best and it's share of issues, but it's still very dear to me. I'm fine with criticism, but at least try to make it more than a childish diatribe. 
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Posted By: Ed_The_Dead
Date Posted: November 28 2006 at 14:36
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I am not listening to any samples. I will wait until I have the bloody disc spinning in my stereo and the booklet in my hand...
Though this sounds quite unsetling... ------------- http://www.last.fm/user/ed_the_dead/?chartstyle=asimpleblue5"> 
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Posted By: toolsofthetrade
Date Posted: November 28 2006 at 14:43
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Am i the only one who found the sample so damn catchy?!!
I went downstairs this morning singing `i'm sick of America!' ... yes it is childish, and the sample does indeed sound like a childish diatribe. However, i was pleasantly surprised about the samples after hearing all the bad press. They're really not that bad, people. ------------- Tool backwards is Loot. Best signature EVAR! Now smell my mattress! |
Posted By: Bj-1
Date Posted: November 28 2006 at 14:52
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Listened to that sample now; not anything interesting. I liked a couple of other samples from the album, but Im unsure of getting the album or not. ------------- RIO/AVANT/ZEUHL - The best thing you can get with yer pants on! |
Posted By: stonebeard
Date Posted: November 28 2006 at 15:18
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After hearing samples and such, I'm disappointed, really. I'm sure it will be at least "good," but as of now, I don't expect anything close to the level of TPE or Remedy Lane. ------------- http://soundcloud.com/drewagler" rel="nofollow - My soundcloud. Please give feedback if you want! |
Posted By: Ed_The_Dead
Date Posted: November 28 2006 at 15:25
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Have faith goddamn it!
Hopefully America will be the only song with such lovely lyrics.
BE was extremely controversial, and, in the end, I loved it. ------------- http://www.last.fm/user/ed_the_dead/?chartstyle=asimpleblue5">
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Posted By: stonebeard
Date Posted: November 28 2006 at 15:28
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I have faith, Ed, but I also have previewed the tracks in another way, so I have a good taste of what the album will be like. Not nearly a complete picture and I hope my view will improve on buying the album, but the samples were definitely not mind-blowing. ------------- http://soundcloud.com/drewagler" rel="nofollow - My soundcloud. Please give feedback if you want! |
Posted By: sleeper
Date Posted: November 28 2006 at 15:29
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After hearing the song, I'm quite happy with how the music sounds, DG is a decent bass player, which was my main concern over Scarsick. As for the lyrics, though the line "I'm, sick of America" is rather unsubtle and obtuse, I'm not going to make any judgment on it untill I can read all of the lyrics to all the songs, its a concept album after all and could be out of context when seperate from the rest of it. As for those bashing the music, remember you cant rate TPE or RL of only Ashes or Ending Theme. ------------- Spending more than I should on Prog since 2005
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Posted By: Ed_The_Dead
Date Posted: November 28 2006 at 15:32
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Well you are a proghead, aren't you? Therefore you should now that there are very few albums you get to listen samples of and can clearly state - OMG this is awesome!
Well, I myself need a lot of time to get into a new album by PoS.
I actually disliked them at 1st listen (BE)...
And now Gildenlow and co. are my fav band...
Lets just wait and see. I shall not touch any samples. Prog isn't something one should listen to in fragments. ------------- http://www.last.fm/user/ed_the_dead/?chartstyle=asimpleblue5">
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Posted By: sleeper
Date Posted: November 28 2006 at 15:57
You mean Shadow Gallery arent your favourit band anymore?  The link from Equality is not to a sample but the entire song America, which is about 5 min long, which is why I likened it to Ashes and Ending Theme (though Used would probably be a better analogy). ------------- Spending more than I should on Prog since 2005
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Posted By: Equality 7-2521
Date Posted: November 28 2006 at 17:22
"I'm sick of America" isn't the most offensive language in the song nor the most childish. On a different note though, does anyone notice a similarity between the chorus of the song and the song America sung in West Side Story? ------------- "One had to be a Newton to notice that the moon is falling, when everyone sees that it doesn't fall. " |
Posted By: el böthy
Date Posted: November 28 2006 at 18:38
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...am I the only one that thinks that this might be some kind of joke from Gildenlöw? I mean, to start the controversy? Tool does this kind of things...maybe Gildenlöw thought it would be fun, I dont know...its more than possible cause the lyrics and music are clearly not up there with the rest of POS material, and they did released this one, when some other samples (ilegal) were far better so...could it be Gildenlöw & co are setting us up¿¿?¿?¿ I guess we will have to wait and see  ------------- "You want me to play what, Robert?"
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Posted By: el böthy
Date Posted: November 28 2006 at 18:41
Wait a minute, another thought here. If the album is a concept one (duh!) it could also be, that this not Gildenlöw "singing", but a character of the story? AHhhhhh...now that could be!!! ------------- "You want me to play what, Robert?"
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Posted By: Mikerinos
Date Posted: November 28 2006 at 18:56
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I like the sample, not so much the lyrics but whatever. It seems a lot different than I thought, the song is very "happy" (although the lyrics aren't) -- I was expecting much darker music. ------------- 
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Posted By: Uroboros
Date Posted: November 28 2006 at 20:00
God, I almost can't believe the lyrics to this song are in such bad taste. This is more childish than the lyrics of a third hand black metal band. And even more childish than Roger Waters' lyrics. 
Honestly, this is seriously bad. The music as well, I'm afraid. ------------- Tous les chemins qui s’ouvrent à moi ne mènent à rien si tu n’es plus là |
Posted By: Arsillus
Date Posted: November 28 2006 at 21:49
I thought the exact same thing the first time I heard it! Now that's a good soundtrack.  |
Posted By: Dalezilla
Date Posted: November 29 2006 at 02:38
| Just in case someone misunderstood what I was trying to say. I wasn't bashing the music. I'm sure the album will be great music-wise, I'm just worried about the concept. I really hate those lyrics in America. |
Posted By: Equality 7-2521
Date Posted: November 29 2006 at 10:07
I doubt it givent he obvious anti-American vibe from the names of the other tracks, and Gildenlow's previously expressed views of America. ------------- "One had to be a Newton to notice that the moon is falling, when everyone sees that it doesn't fall. " |
Posted By: VanderGraafKommandöh
Date Posted: November 29 2006 at 11:39
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What the hell is going on with this PoS song... It's definitely tongue-in-cheek. I hear some country music bashing in it. -------------   
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Posted By: OpethGuitarist
Date Posted: November 29 2006 at 17:01
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I just heard the song. To be honest, the music, it's plain awful, and I don't even know the lyrics. It's one of the worst and least thought out songs they've done to date. Not only that but they seem to be taking sound ideas from Entropia as well. Sigh, wheres the brilliance from TPE and Remedy Lane. ... or development and songwriting maturity for that matter ------------- back from the dead, i will begin posting reviews again and musing through the forums |
Posted By: VanderGraafKommandöh
Date Posted: November 29 2006 at 17:23
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Don't listen to the 30 second samples, whatever you do.
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Posted By: OpethGuitarist
Date Posted: November 29 2006 at 17:28
No, it was the whole song. ------------- back from the dead, i will begin posting reviews again and musing through the forums |
Posted By: VanderGraafKommandöh
Date Posted: November 29 2006 at 17:32
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I know, I've heard it too, but there's 30 second samples of all the tracks from the album available.
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Posted By: OpethGuitarist
Date Posted: November 29 2006 at 17:39
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where?
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Posted By: VanderGraafKommandöh
Date Posted: November 29 2006 at 18:12
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On the web somewhere, I'll PM you in a bit.
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Posted By: heyitsthatguy
Date Posted: November 29 2006 at 18:25
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"America" sounds waaaay too cheery/ atypical of them to be a totally serious track....something's up
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Posted By: el böthy
Date Posted: November 29 2006 at 19:31
Exactly!!! Something is up! This is way to strange! ------------- "You want me to play what, Robert?"
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Posted By: VanderGraafKommandöh
Date Posted: November 29 2006 at 19:34
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So far, judging by the samples, the song with the silly name "Disco Queen" sounds like being the best track on the album.
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Posted By: OpethGuitarist
Date Posted: November 29 2006 at 22:26
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listened now, most of the tracks sound like Entropia 2.
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Posted By: Dalezilla
Date Posted: November 30 2006 at 04:14
You guys gotta remember that PoS is about albums not samples. 
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Posted By: MikeEnRegalia
Date Posted: November 30 2006 at 04:42
Sure, but usually the samples that an artist chooses to give people as a taste of things to come are pretty close to the final result. Well, I listened to the song - I don't like it. Its stereotypical mindless bashing of the US is way out of line ... and musically it's quite solid, the banjo (if it was one) adds a nice touch, but it's not all that brilliant. ------------- https://awesomeprog.com/users/Mike" rel="nofollow">Recently listened to:
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Posted By: Dalezilla
Date Posted: November 30 2006 at 05:36
I was referring to the 30 second samples Geck0 was talking about. I don't like the samples either, especially America. |
Posted By: MikeEnRegalia
Date Posted: November 30 2006 at 05:46
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^ I agree that 30 second samples don't tell you much - that's why I'm just listening to the full song on the myspace page. ------------- https://awesomeprog.com/users/Mike" rel="nofollow">Recently listened to:
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Posted By: Dalezilla
Date Posted: November 30 2006 at 08:51
| Also Mike do you think that the Spock's Beard sample on that myspace page is a good sample of their new album? I don't. But I don't know about the PoS song. Maybe Gildenlöw wanted to show us what the concept would be about. And if the rest of the album is going to be like that, I'm not buying the album. |
Posted By: MikeEnRegalia
Date Posted: November 30 2006 at 10:05
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^ It's not the best representation, but it's ok. I like the new SB album, but although there are many prog songs on it, there's also much AOR - and if I had to choose only one song as a sample, I would choose one that's not too prog, so that someone who buys the album based on the sample will not be disappointed. BTW: Mike Keneally had a cool idea - "sound bites", collages of the best moments of the album: http://www.keneally.com/av/guitartherapito.mp3 - http://www.keneally.com/av/guitartherapito.mp3 ------------- https://awesomeprog.com/users/Mike" rel="nofollow">Recently listened to:
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Posted By: Dalezilla
Date Posted: November 30 2006 at 11:00
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Yeah that's a great idea. I know there's a lot of AOR on that album, but if I were to buy the album judging by that sample, I wouldn't. But I like the album, because it has some great prog songs. So if I were to choose a sample I'd choose some other song. But then again I never judge albums by one sample so I guess this discussion is pretty pointless and off-topic for that matter.
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Posted By: indelibo
Date Posted: December 08 2006 at 11:42
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Well, after listening to the entire album for the first time, I'm very disappointed to say this is my least favorite PoS album. The creativity seems to have run dry and 3/4 of the album sounds mainstream very much like Octavarium! I'll give it a few more listens and perhaps take a break from it for a while but so far its a bust. |
Posted By: VanderGraafKommandöh
Date Posted: December 08 2006 at 14:46
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Most people on last.fm love it for some strange reason...
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