Tool, Nine Inch Nails
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Topic: Tool, Nine Inch Nails
Posted By: semismart
Subject: Tool, Nine Inch Nails
Date Posted: March 08 2004 at 21:03
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I never see Tool or Nine Inch Nails mentioned around here. I think their music would fall into a loose definition of Progressive Rock. What do you'all think? ------------- <i>Sports cars</i>, helping ugly men get sex since 1954. |
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Posted By: Alexander
Date Posted: March 08 2004 at 21:19
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Tool sure, NIN no... ------------- On A Dilemmia Between What I Need & What I Just Want 
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Posted By: Vibrationbaby
Date Posted: March 09 2004 at 12:46
| I don't know. The first time I heard Thraak by KK for all I knew it could have been a Nine Inch Nails composition if I didn't know it was Bob and the boys back at it! |
Posted By: Dan Bobrowski
Date Posted: March 09 2004 at 14:08
I can understand the Tool prog connection. NIN is industrial, there may be flashes of prog, here and there, however, I'd not considered them as a prog band. Actually, all these threads arguing over what is prog and what's not is getting a bit dizzy. I'd like to have Max and the "official" reviewers recieve our candidates for consideration and let them make those assumptions. 
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Posted By: Joren
Date Posted: March 09 2004 at 14:44
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You're right! Let's not argue about such an unimportant thing like a definition, but let's talk about the lovely things in life, like, ehm.... for instance... THE MUSIC!! (is the best!)
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danbo wrote:Posted By: Dan Bobrowski
Date Posted: March 09 2004 at 18:08
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And Beer. We defintely need more beer threads. I'm fond of Guinness (Stout), Dos Equis Amber and Samuel Adams. What imports should I look for? |
Posted By: Jim Garten
Date Posted: March 10 2004 at 03:28
Wadworths 6x London Pride Lumphammer MacMullens AK Bathams Mild Ansells Mild Theakstons Old Peculier Black Cat Mild Old Slug Porter Oyster Stout Reshearchh ish conchinuing g ------------- 
Jon Lord 1941 - 2012 |
Posted By: Joren
Date Posted: March 10 2004 at 04:04
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You sure have a lot of experience! I love Stout too! |
Posted By: Peter
Date Posted: March 10 2004 at 08:34
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(At least, not until Friday evening!) ------------- "And, has thou slain the Jabberwock? Come to my arms, my beamish boy! O frabjous day! Callooh! Callay!' He chortled in his joy. |
Posted By: dude
Date Posted: March 10 2004 at 08:55
| SORRY, much as i like TOOL(and i dont care for NIN) i do not consider them prog,BUT as for beer...mmmmmmm Free Goo!!,i mean BEER!!.Mind numbing intoxicants....a proggers freind!!!(and for those of you who say "you dont need alcohol(or leafy green) to enjoy life"..i say..NUTS TO YOU!!......MMMMMMMMM,NUUUTS!!! |
Posted By: Vibrationbaby
Date Posted: March 10 2004 at 10:24
| Beer is for kids. Show me a bottle of Scotch. |
Posted By: Dan Bobrowski
Date Posted: March 10 2004 at 10:30
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Thanks Jim, I'll begin the search. Scotch............? I prefer to pursue my childish passions, beer and prog. It served me well in the seventies and I'm still enthralled. BURP!!
Tool Rocks!!!!!!!!!! |
Posted By: Joren
Date Posted: March 10 2004 at 10:36
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I just ate some nuts! |
Posted By: Dan Bobrowski
Date Posted: March 10 2004 at 10:46
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Of course there is still the debate: straight from the bottle or tap. Glass or stein. What is "good head," dirty glass, clean glass. So many choices!!! Is Beer Prog? I mean, except for Vibrationbaby, we're mainly beer drinkers. Those of us old enough, anyway. So, if a proghole drinks beer while listening to prog, is beer prog? Come on, Peter, give us the reviewers view. |
Posted By: Joren
Date Posted: March 10 2004 at 11:20
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Beer is popular among all sorts of people! By the way: I prefer beer from a bottle, in most cases, because in some bars they mix the beer in the tap with WATER! |
Posted By: semismart
Date Posted: March 10 2004 at 19:13
No wonder I'm not jiving with you guys. Getting back to Tool and NiN. I know many of you will disagree but I think Tool is Progressive Metal. It's much too experimental to be heavy metal and it's not really Industrial ie. KMFDM and Skinny Puppy. The same argument could be made for NIN although I think of them (him) as a crossover, a fusion of Progressive and Industrial. PS: I charge $5.00 for you to disagree with me ------------- <i>Sports cars</i>, helping ugly men get sex since 1954. |
Posted By: DNA1997
Date Posted: March 11 2004 at 08:38
| I'm not sure about NIN, but I agree with you about Tool. They fit the Prog description in my mind. But I think prog-metal is a very hazy area. |
Posted By: Dan Bobrowski
Date Posted: March 11 2004 at 10:49
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semismart [/QUOTE] No wonder I'm not jiving with you guys. [/QUOTE] Wine or whine, Pansy? You probably eat cheese, too. This is a PROG site, not Celine Deon's fan club. Aberation!!!!!!!!
Just kidding, I prefer SAKE, cold. |
Posted By: Joren
Date Posted: March 11 2004 at 11:26
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There's nothing wrong with cheese! Hmmmmmmmmmmmmm, French cheese! Brie, Camembert, Cantal I suppose Tauhd Zaļa and Lucas love it to, for they are French. |
Posted By: Dan Bobrowski
Date Posted: March 11 2004 at 11:30
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I like a nice Brie with mint sauce on some sourdough..........
I just have to pull yer chain. My daughter is going to France in June for two weeks. We told her to act Canadian. |
Posted By: Jim Garten
Date Posted: March 11 2004 at 11:43
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Nuts - lovely - show me a bowl of pistachios & I'll show you an empty bowl & a burping 40 year old (enduring image, eh?)
Nothing wrong with wine!!! I appreciate a good bottle myself (1998 St Emilion Mmmmmmmmmmm!!! A good rich bottle of vintage port Mmmmmmmmmmmm!!!!!!) - as for cheese, nothing wrong with that either.... Brie (sorry, Tauhd, but we make better brie in Somerset - SW England - than you guys do in France) Truckle Cheddar (strong & sharp) White stilton with apricots Joren - I'm not surprised they water down the beer! You guys are too out of your skulls from spending too long in Amsterdam "coffee"  houses!!
Danbo - as far as Scotch is concerned, I hope you're talking decent single malt, not this blended filth!! 
Hmm - seems I am beginning to come across as something of an alcoholic - I'm not guys, honest (hic) -------------
Jon Lord 1941 - 2012 |
Posted By: Dan Bobrowski
Date Posted: March 11 2004 at 12:24
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Only as a man who knows his evils. I love a nice Gewurtztraminer with pasta and clam sauce. Merlot with a fireplace, my wife and some interesting instrumental music. |
Posted By: Joren
Date Posted: March 11 2004 at 13:42
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On the coffeshops: It seems that people from all around the world think The Netherlands = Amsterdam = drugs paradise. Well, the last part is true, actually |
Posted By: Dan Bobrowski
Date Posted: March 11 2004 at 14:01
Course not!!! We didn't touch the stuff during the seventies. 
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Posted By: Joren
Date Posted: March 11 2004 at 14:46
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Glad to hear that! Good boy! |
Posted By: Dan Bobrowski
Date Posted: March 11 2004 at 16:17
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Cough, Cough, Cough, Yeah thanks. Cough, choke, gasp. |
Posted By: Joren
Date Posted: March 11 2004 at 16:19
| sounds like someone's caughing up blood here! |
Posted By: semismart
Date Posted: March 11 2004 at 23:28
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My god, How did we go from Tool to beer, to scotch, to wine, to cheese, to Pot! I guess tere's a few more things we could touch on like hemoroids and toe jam. ------------- <i>Sports cars</i>, helping ugly men get sex since 1954. |
Posted By: Dan Bobrowski
Date Posted: March 11 2004 at 23:58
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That reminds me. I've got a Physical scheduled for Monday. I hate that greasy feeling. stays with you all day.
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Posted By: Jim Garten
Date Posted: March 12 2004 at 02:53
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There's no answer to that......
Well, there is, but there are impressionable 15 year olds on the site (Hi Alex) wouldn't want to corrupt them now would we?? -------------
Jon Lord 1941 - 2012 |
Posted By: Jim Garten
Date Posted: March 12 2004 at 02:59
You know, I was actually tempted yesterday to start a poll on what mind altering substances members of the group may or may not have used/taken in the past (I dare say many of the membership may have had less than 100% legal youthful experiences). This was to be purely out of curiosity, but then my sensible self switched back on and thought such a poll/thread may have been considered less than responsible & may even have offended some of the membership. -------------
Jon Lord 1941 - 2012 |
Posted By: dude
Date Posted: March 12 2004 at 04:12
| AAAHH MIND ALTERING SUBSTANCES!!!....THOSE WERE THE DA.......WAIT A MINUTE!! I AM AS PURE AS THE DRIVEN SNOW.................(OR IS THAT PURE AS THE DRIVEN BULL****) anyway....i never touched the stuff......at all.........really...........why are you all looking at me like that!!?..why are the voices echoing...HEY I CAN SEE YOUR AURAS!!!...UH OH NOW I AM HUNGRY FOR SOME REASON,now where is that peanut paste and sardine sandwich!!? |
Posted By: Joren
Date Posted: March 12 2004 at 08:50
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I'm starting to like you guys! I sure have a lot to learn Respect! |
Posted By: Dan Bobrowski
Date Posted: March 12 2004 at 11:03
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Don't ask, don't tell. |
Posted By: will
Date Posted: March 14 2004 at 07:13
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how did a topic about Nine Inch Nails manage to get onto the subject of pot! Re: mind altering substances. MUSHROOMS are great because they arent dangerous but there still fun ------------- Long live progression. Will |
Posted By: dude
Date Posted: March 14 2004 at 07:30
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AH YES..running through a pine forest at six in the morning with a bagfull of freshly picked MAGIC MUSHROOMS and the police chasing you.....not that i know anything about that!!!!
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Posted By: Joren
Date Posted: March 14 2004 at 08:23
In Holland the police won't chase you for eating (magical) mushrooms! 
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Posted By: Jim Garten
Date Posted: March 15 2004 at 03:40
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Ah the carefree days of youth, eh?? Just as well we've all left these days behind us, eh?? I mean, it would be irresponsible for people of our age to still be abusing our bodies.
Perish the very thought. (Mind you, it would explain Dude's spelling) -------------
Jon Lord 1941 - 2012 |
Posted By: Tauhd Zaļa
Date Posted: March 15 2004 at 04:35
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No, Dude was only bitten by a radioactive kangaroo That's the reason why he is so......different ? Dude at the beach looking at the pretty girls :
------------- The State Of Grace Is Achieved |
Posted By: dude
Date Posted: March 15 2004 at 06:31
AND LOOKING PRETTY COOL ABOUT IT I MIGHT ADD!!!
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Posted By: Tauhd Zaļa
Date Posted: March 15 2004 at 06:57
Don't you understood that I  U Dude ?------------- The State Of Grace Is Achieved |
Posted By: Jim Garten
Date Posted: March 15 2004 at 07:49
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AAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHH
I think we have our first online romance My eyes are moistening as I type - I love a good wedding!!! Can I be bridesmaid?? -------------
Jon Lord 1941 - 2012 |
Posted By: Joren
Date Posted: March 15 2004 at 07:51
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..but ...but... She's my MOM! |
Posted By: dude
Date Posted: March 15 2004 at 08:03
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Hey JIM: I GET TO CHOSE THE DRESSES!!! BESides I cant Marry my mum, what would the Neighbours think!!?(i know what PETER RIDEOUT Would think ,BUT he is a very strange man!!)
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Posted By: Tauhd Zaļa
Date Posted: March 15 2004 at 08:44
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Hey cut out the circuit ! ------------- The State Of Grace Is Achieved |
Posted By: Tauhd Zaļa
Date Posted: March 15 2004 at 08:58
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Dude, you will pay the dress with a dude cheque ? If it is my dress, you are fired !
------------- The State Of Grace Is Achieved |
Posted By: Alexander
Date Posted: March 15 2004 at 10:56
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This is the greatest thread ever... ------------- On A Dilemmia Between What I Need & What I Just Want
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Posted By: Jim Garten
Date Posted: March 15 2004 at 11:06
Tauhd..... Never take a cheque from Dude!! It will bounce (Hmmmm, kangaroo reference....) Mind you, I love the wedding dress - you & dude are made for each other..... Hey Joren - how do you fancy Dude as a step-father? -------------
Jon Lord 1941 - 2012 |
Posted By: Dan Bobrowski
Date Posted: March 15 2004 at 12:04
No, Dude was only bitten by a radioactive kangaroo That's the reason why he is so......different ? Dude at the beach looking at the pretty girls :
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So Dude, Why the long face?
Are you related to Sandra Bullock? |
Posted By: Peter
Date Posted: March 15 2004 at 12:10
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Good one, Danbo! Or Rik Ocasek (Cars)? ------------- "And, has thou slain the Jabberwock? Come to my arms, my beamish boy! O frabjous day! Callooh! Callay!' He chortled in his joy. |
Posted By: Peter
Date Posted: March 15 2004 at 12:13
 Hmmm.... Rather a suggestive name on this thread, don't you think? ("Tool, nine inch...") Another Freudian slip?  ------------- "And, has thou slain the Jabberwock? Come to my arms, my beamish boy! O frabjous day! Callooh! Callay!' He chortled in his joy. |
Posted By: Peter
Date Posted: March 15 2004 at 19:27
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Hyuk! There, I've ruined it for everyone.... Warning: Some readers may not share this "sense of humour!" ------------- "And, has thou slain the Jabberwock? Come to my arms, my beamish boy! O frabjous day! Callooh! Callay!' He chortled in his joy. |
Posted By: semismart
Date Posted: March 15 2004 at 20:57
Very good Peter. ------------- <i>Sports cars</i>, helping ugly men get sex since 1954. |
Posted By: dude
Date Posted: March 15 2004 at 21:40
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PETER i had thought of that freudian connection actually then i thought NNNNAAAAAhHH better not!!(either Max is not looking or he's more tolerant than i thought)...............yes "nine inch nail" is QUITE appropriate.........i wish
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Posted By: Peter
Date Posted: March 15 2004 at 23:05
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(Guards of Magog?) ------------- "And, has thou slain the Jabberwock? Come to my arms, my beamish boy! O frabjous day! Callooh! Callay!' He chortled in his joy. |
Posted By: Joren
Date Posted: March 16 2004 at 04:55
That would be great! Both of my parents listening to prog! |
Posted By: philippe
Date Posted: March 16 2004 at 07:04
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"I never see Tool or Nine Inch Nails mentioned around here. I think their music would fall into a loose definition of Progressive Rock" Absolutely none of them can be ranged under the prog genre. Industrial and garage rock really far from prog heritage! ------------- 
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Posted By: Tauhd Zaļa
Date Posted: March 16 2004 at 10:18
Hey guys, Philippe just showed us the right way of reason ------------- The State Of Grace Is Achieved |
Posted By: will
Date Posted: March 16 2004 at 14:14
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lol this Topic has covered pretty much every subject from, Nine Inch Nails - Marrying Kangaroos Its like being on mushrooms all-over again ------------- Long live progression. Will |