Supper's Ready
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Topic: Supper's Ready
Posted By: PaperDuck
Subject: Supper's Ready
Date Posted: October 01 2006 at 16:27
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Maybe it's just that I haven't had it long enough, but Supper's Ready wasn't the masterpiece I expected it to be. Oh, it was quite good, to be sure, but it didn't seem to hang together very well, and the songs that didn't hang were of lower quality than the rest of the album - I'd take Get 'Em Out by Friday over Lovers' Leap any day.
Also, I've heard it's supposed to be based on Revelations, and alternatively on some supernatural experience Gabriel's wife had - but only individual movements seem to agree with any one interpretation. Just wondering if anyone else got the sense that Genesis didn't so much write an epic as smash a few songs, of varying quality, together. |
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Posted By: Ricochet
Date Posted: October 01 2006 at 16:30
Eh, it didn't do much for me... !------------- 
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Posted By: The Miracle
Date Posted: October 01 2006 at 16:34
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Way overrated  ------------- http://www.last.fm/user/ocellatedgod" rel="nofollow - last.fm |
Posted By: Uroboros
Date Posted: October 01 2006 at 16:34
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Definitely good, but hugely overrated. And yes, it does seem like a bunch of songs not very naturally made to fit together. It provides for a number of interesting listens, but I think Genesis at their more concise could and indeed have been much better than this. ------------- Tous les chemins qui s’ouvrent à moi ne mènent à rien si tu n’es plus là |
Posted By: The Green Tank
Date Posted: October 01 2006 at 16:35
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Supper's Ready is truly one of the all-time progressive rock classics. ------------- 
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Posted By: Raff
Date Posted: October 01 2006 at 16:36
Last option for me, I'm afraid... I've never really be able to get into it. My fault, I know, but this is how things are.
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Posted By: Moatilliatta
Date Posted: October 01 2006 at 16:59
| Great song, and a classic, but it's not all it's hyped up to be by most. |
Posted By: R o V e R
Date Posted: October 01 2006 at 17:13
| it didn't do much for me |
Posted By: The Miracle
Date Posted: October 01 2006 at 17:15
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Now honestly, I think it's the greatest rock composition ever. ------------- http://www.last.fm/user/ocellatedgod" rel="nofollow - last.fm |
Posted By: tuxon
Date Posted: October 01 2006 at 17:20
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Good song, but not all that ground braking.
love the final and some parts, but as a whole I can't really get all excited about it. ------------- I'm always almost unlucky _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ Id5ZcnjXSZaSMFMC Id5LM2q2jfqz3YxT |
Posted By: dAJaro
Date Posted: October 01 2006 at 17:30
it doesnt get much better than supper's ready. 
------------- http://www.last.fm/user/dAJaro/?chartstyle=basic10"> 
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Posted By: Sir Pommes
Date Posted: October 01 2006 at 17:32
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supper's ready is a great song and with karn evil 9 one of the best songs i know |
Posted By: Arrrghus
Date Posted: October 01 2006 at 17:34
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Wait, where's the "just right" selection? ------------- 
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Posted By: Hatters
Date Posted: October 01 2006 at 17:37
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Its pretty good.
-------------  http://www.last.fm/user/SHatters/?chartstyle=basic10"> 
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Posted By: PaperDuck
Date Posted: October 01 2006 at 17:46
Green Tank, yes, it's a classic - but is it good? 
Arrrghus, that would be "Wonderful, but not underrated." 
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Posted By: Leningrad
Date Posted: October 01 2006 at 17:50
Piece of Crap. 
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Posted By: tdreamer
Date Posted: October 01 2006 at 18:02
| Good but there are some parts which are boring. |
Posted By: Bj-1
Date Posted: October 01 2006 at 18:36
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Far from being Genesis best track, but I still love it. 5/5. ------------- RIO/AVANT/ZEUHL - The best thing you can get with yer pants on! |
Posted By: micky
Date Posted: October 01 2006 at 18:43
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pretty good... but not the greatest thing I've ever heard I
guess.. however Genesis was far from the only groups the
smash song fragments in one piece and call it an epic. Most the
the rule than the exception.
------------- The Pedro and Micky Experience - When one no longer requires psychotropics to trip |
Posted By: Tony Fisher
Date Posted: October 01 2006 at 18:53
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Better than Close to the Edge, and that's not something I'd say lightly. Not overrated, just brilliant. |
Posted By: Benjamin_Breeg
Date Posted: October 01 2006 at 19:01
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wonderful but not overrated for sure
------------- http://www.last.fm/user/Dream_Thief_/?chartstyle=Geldropdown2"> 
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Posted By: Pulse
Date Posted: October 01 2006 at 19:06
| It's overated, but I love it. Probably the Genesis song I listen to the most. |
Posted By: PaperDuck
Date Posted: October 01 2006 at 19:11
True - however, considering that some bands make concept albums, where all of the songs have an overarching theme (or one song takes up the entire album), the fact that this "epic" hung together only very loosely was disappointing. "Everybody else is doing it" is not an excuse. |
micky wrote:Posted By: Kleynan
Date Posted: October 01 2006 at 19:25
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When I first heard it, it did seem a little disjointed, but I've learned that it really doesn't matter that much. Just try to listen to 2112! ------------- 
You've just had a heavy session of electroshock therapy, and you're more relaxed than you've been in weeks. |
Posted By: Empathy
Date Posted: October 01 2006 at 19:53
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I think it's a phenomenal piece, and one of my favorite Genesis tracks ever.
------------- Pure Brilliance: 
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Posted By: The Wizard
Date Posted: October 01 2006 at 19:54
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A very awesome song. I love it. Especially the Wllow Farm. -------------  
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Posted By: proglil49
Date Posted: October 01 2006 at 20:17
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Very good song but this is absolutely not underrated ------------- I want to be an astronaut |
Posted By: el böthy
Date Posted: October 01 2006 at 20:19
yes...what he said ------------- "You want me to play what, Robert?" 
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Posted By: Sasquamo
Date Posted: October 01 2006 at 21:45
| It's funny that I just noticed this thread because I just bought Foxtrot not an hour ago along with Brain Sald Surgery. Not much time to listen to them though. |
Posted By: transend
Date Posted: October 01 2006 at 22:29
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It seems to me to be the ORIGINAL blueprint for the 'seperate parts' epic, whereas (even though i has different sections) 'Close to the edge' is the the blueprint for the non segmented epic. Does that make any sense..probably not. Either way, I prefer the 'Seconds out' version by miles, since it sounds so much better and it does not sound like Phil is playing cardboard boxes and Peter is singing inside of them.
Wonderful song. |
Posted By: moreitsythanyou
Date Posted: October 01 2006 at 23:07
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I happen to be addicted to this song recently and I know it's amazing, but I wouldn't call it underrated. It gets a good deal of respect and it earned every bit of it -------------  <font color=white>butts, lol[/COLOR] |
Posted By: stomp
Date Posted: October 01 2006 at 23:18
| Took several listens to grow on me. |
Posted By: bhikkhu
Date Posted: October 01 2006 at 23:32
Awesome, phenomenal, classic, a masterpiece. 
I guess it's O.K.
------------- a.k.a. H.T. http://riekels.wordpress.com" rel="nofollow - http://riekels.wordpress.com |
Posted By: enteredwinter
Date Posted: October 02 2006 at 01:05
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Wonderful, rated just as it should be, generally. It's important to think of Supper's Ready in the context of when it was released. 1972??? The fact that such a well-developed multi-part epic was released then is mind-boggling. Yes, there were others released before or around the same time. But, to me, nothing from that period equals Supper's Ready, and honestly no 20+ minute epic ever created (IMO) has ever matched it. And that's coming from guy who has a lot of love and respect for many different 20 min+ prog epics. |
Posted By: The Whistler
Date Posted: October 02 2006 at 01:12
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Hey now...'72, that's the Year of the Brick don't forget... Er, how's it rated now? An insta-classic? It is pretty good. ------------- "There seem to be quite a large percentage of young American boys out there tonight. A long way from home, eh? Well so are we... Gotta stick together." -I. Anderson |
Posted By: Asphalt
Date Posted: October 02 2006 at 01:30
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it's good, and maybe even a classic, but far from being perfect or even the ultimate prog composition; hence generally overrated it actually took me such a long time to get into it because everybody was raving about it like it was the best thing since sliced bread; it wasn't KC was  |
Posted By: Australian
Date Posted: October 02 2006 at 02:08
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Amazing song and thats saying a lot. Suppers Ready is my favorite Genesis song, you just need to give it time to sink in.
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Posted By: R o V e R
Date Posted: October 02 2006 at 02:46
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i like it very much
but dont compare with "Close to the Edge" |
Posted By: white_russian
Date Posted: October 02 2006 at 03:10
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one of the best epics in the history of prog.
------------- http://www.last.fm/user/white_russian"> 
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Posted By: Chipiron
Date Posted: October 02 2006 at 06:56
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I don't like it at all, I've never considered it a great song, and I like most of Genesis' albums (except the last ones) ------------- [IMG]http://www.belderrain.es/GIFs/tora.gif"> |
Posted By: MattiR
Date Posted: October 02 2006 at 08:15
| Wonderful, but not underrated. |
Posted By: Norbert
Date Posted: October 02 2006 at 08:51
Masterpiece, alright?
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Posted By: Tyrant
Date Posted: October 02 2006 at 09:38
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Even though Supper's Ready is widely regarded as one of progressive rock's ultimate moments, I still voted that it was underrated. The reason is that although it's been praised, it's not been praised enough. The song has everything a good prog epic is supposed to have; Beautiful melodies, intricate rythm and pace changes, complex structure, phantastic instrumental work and a dazzling display of technical musical abilities. This alone make's it worthy of its praise. BUT, what this song also has, that I don't think has been accounted for enough in this praise, is its unique theatrical approach. It's not the only theatrical work of progressive rock, but it is one of the most extreme and individual around. Gabriel's different voices, his role playing in the studio (forget the live version with Phil Collins. The man is a good singer, but he's clearly uncomfortable with this phantastically complex theatrical song) is so unique in the history of rock, that I think the song should have had an even greater status. This song (and a few other of the sort, from Selling England By The Pound and The Lamb Lies Down On Broadway) is what really shows Gabriel's genius, and is what separates Genesis in the Gabriel era from "the rest of the bunch" (meaning both the rest of Genesis' output, but also the rest of the prog bands).
This song belongs in heaven.
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Posted By: Philéas
Date Posted: October 02 2006 at 11:25
| Wonderful, but not underrated. Perhaps a bit overrated even. Doesn't matter to me though, I still love it. |
Posted By: Cristi
Date Posted: October 02 2006 at 11:28
| Second option. |
Posted By: A B Negative
Date Posted: October 02 2006 at 12:05
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Good, but not my favourite Genesis track. ------------- "The disgusting stink of a too-loud electric guitar.... Now, that's my idea of a good time." |
Posted By: Melomaniac
Date Posted: October 02 2006 at 12:08
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Very good, but a bit overrated imho. ------------- "One likes to believe in the freedom of Music" - Neil Peart, The Spirit of Radio |
Posted By: Padraic
Date Posted: October 02 2006 at 12:14
Yup. |
Posted By: lunaticviolist
Date Posted: October 02 2006 at 12:44
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One of the top ten prog songs of all time.
------------- My recent purchases: 
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Posted By: MattiR
Date Posted: October 02 2006 at 12:54
Perhaps you're right. Interesting thoughts... |
Posted By: Open-Mind
Date Posted: October 02 2006 at 12:55
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Wonderful, but not underrated
------------- "I'm on a roll, I'm on a roll this time, I feel my luck could change.. " |
Posted By: Tholomyes
Date Posted: October 02 2006 at 13:16
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most of it is boring for me, but i think it's not bad at all. |
Posted By: Phil
Date Posted: October 02 2006 at 14:51
| I don't think it's their best work. I think it's really really good, but it doesn't hold me the same way as say "mad Man Moon" or "Firth of Fifth" do. And for me it's not quite as good as some other long epics - not that length is the only yardstick to measure a prog classic by! |
Posted By: Liquid Len
Date Posted: October 02 2006 at 16:53
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Truly an epic! ------------- Can you tell me where my country lies? |
Posted By: Fassbinder
Date Posted: October 02 2006 at 17:02
| Not even "It didn't do much for me", but "It doesn't do anything for me". After many listenings I still fail to find any interesting moment in this piece. |
Posted By: fezman
Date Posted: October 02 2006 at 22:42
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It doesn't get much better as far as BIG Genesis numbers go
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Posted By: memowakeman
Date Posted: October 03 2006 at 00:41
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Excellent!
second option ------------- Follow me on twitter @memowakeman |
Posted By: Jim Garten
Date Posted: October 03 2006 at 03:45
I couldn't have put it better myself! ------------- 
Jon Lord 1941 - 2012 |
Posted By: Jim Garten
Date Posted: October 03 2006 at 03:51
Well... that's fine talk coming from the moderator of a prog-rock website; your post has been reported to Tony R, so you may expect the termination of your moderator's status to be actioned without delay. However - you could, of course take the more honourable option... 
I'm sorry Raffaella, but such opinions have no place here. I will miss you, but...  -------------
Jon Lord 1941 - 2012 |
Posted By: Zargus
Date Posted: October 03 2006 at 06:30
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Good, but overrated. ------------- 
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Posted By: Sasquamo
Date Posted: October 03 2006 at 17:07
Are you suggesting the 2112 is disjointed? I think 2112 is the most connected epic I've ever heard. It uses different variations on the melody, with Geddy singing different parts of the melody in each movement.
As for Supper's Ready, I've listened to it three times now, twice rather unattentively, but the third time I focused on it pretty well. So far, I really haven't gotten much into it (or the rest of album), but I really want to get into Genesis, and I hear that Foxtrot is one of their best.
 More listens, maybe? |
Posted By: PaperDuck
Date Posted: October 03 2006 at 21:01
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I'm getting a bit more into it (Supper's Ready) now actually, but I still think it's overrated. Some parts are amazing, but the choppiness and the overall suckiness of the beginning and the end keep it from being a masterpiece.
It might have something to do with me being unable to take Lovers' Leap, especially the "Don't you know our love is true" part at face value. The fact that she feels she has to repeat that fact, that it's been a long long time, and her general attitude scream to me that the female of the two lovers is cheating on the male, cf Young Lust/One of My Turns from Pink Floyd's The Wall. I'm constantly disappointed that it isn't addressed in the song  .
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Posted By: Metamorphosis
Date Posted: October 03 2006 at 23:54
| I love it. It gets the second option. |
Posted By: Badabec
Date Posted: October 04 2006 at 17:37
That's my opinion either! This song is just awesome! ------------- Mesmo a tristeza da gente era mais bela E além disso se via da janela Um cantinho de céu e o Redentor - Antônio Carlos Jobim, Toquinho & Vinícius de Moraes - Carta ao Tom 74 |
Posted By: TartanTantrum
Date Posted: October 05 2006 at 04:52
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Ive been listening to it since 1973 whne I first got into Genesis. I have heard it live with Gabriel, Collins and several times by Regenesis. It is wonderful every time. I have over 1,000 albums, yet the song I play most often is Supper's Ready (#2 is Close to the Edge!). It will never be bettered. |
Posted By: MadcapLaughs84
Date Posted: October 05 2006 at 11:38
The Best Genesis Song Ever
http://www.last.fm/user/Pink_Gilmour/?chartstyle=lastfmred"> ------------- 
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Posted By: OpethGuitarist
Date Posted: October 05 2006 at 12:04
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Genesis is generally one of the most overrated and uninteresting bands in the field of prog
------------- back from the dead, i will begin posting reviews again and musing through the forums |
Posted By: Progger
Date Posted: October 05 2006 at 13:23
Not one of my favourite bands but credit where it's due.........'Supper's Ready' is a masterpiece!
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Posted By: daz2112
Date Posted: October 06 2006 at 15:29
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It's the only song i have played every week for 30 years!! It is the best song ever written!! ------------- In the constellation of cygnus,There lurks a mysterious force...The black hole |
Posted By: Pnoom!
Date Posted: October 14 2006 at 09:27
| It's my number three song right now. That may just be a passing phase, but for now... |
Posted By: Sasquamo
Date Posted: October 14 2006 at 09:57
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I've changed my mind. I love it now, but I think its a little overrated. |
Posted By: pinkyfloydyfan
Date Posted: October 15 2006 at 18:37
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Analyse the lyrics, the melody or the atmosphere and you will think that it is UNDERrated. A truly masterpiece that so few bands connot do better...
POETIC, THEATRAL, BRILLIANT!
 No reply to that!
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Posted By: Orfeo
Date Posted: October 17 2006 at 09:14
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Underrated.
IMO 90-95% of other progressive is pointless if compared with Supper's ready...
Not to mention other popular music...
Only some classical pieces can compare with it
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