Your favorite type of prog website
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Topic: Your favorite type of prog website
Posted By: MikeEnRegalia
Subject: Your favorite type of prog website
Date Posted: September 28 2006 at 06:36
Now that's a weird poll for a change!
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Posted By: Tony R
Date Posted: September 28 2006 at 06:39
Looks like I am a "standardist"...w/o metal....
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Posted By: MikeEnRegalia
Date Posted: September 28 2006 at 06:42
^ I was struggling for the right word ... by "Standardist" I mean persons who would only call a band "prog" if there is an historic basis for doing so (e.g. the band has been called prog for like a decade). Nothing wrong with that - and I'm one myself! But I voted "Progressionist" because there are many bands which I wouldn't call "prog", but nevertheless would like to see them together with the prog bands.
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Posted By: Raff
Date Posted: September 28 2006 at 06:45
I'm an Abstract Progressionist, whatever it may mean.. Hopefully it's not an insult!
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Posted By: Sean Trane
Date Posted: September 28 2006 at 06:50
Mike, is this purely theoretical or have actual examples of these sites?
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Posted By: MikeEnRegalia
Date Posted: September 28 2006 at 07:04
^ My own website would be an example of an "Abstract Progressionist" website ... any kind of music can be reviewed & rated there (even non-prog, but you can filter it out).
The archives are an obvious example of a "Standardist" website - with a few exceptions (which venture into "Inclusionist" territory).
I suppose the other types are purely theoretical ... but from the various discussions I gather that maybe people exist who would love these alternatives.
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Posted By: Sean Trane
Date Posted: September 28 2006 at 07:18
Although my center of interest would be the first two options, I'd feel quite limited because of the time frame (especially in regards with the 60's, but also the 90's).
The next two would actually please me even less for some odd reason.
the last two are probably the better solution but both sorts can be a bit too wide-scoped:-Your inclusionist idea is probably whet PA is because of prog-related and proto-prog, but remains rock
-your all inclusive progressive music is the most frightening one because, we'dhave to include Edgar Varese, Ornette Coleman, Philip Glass etc...
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Posted By: MikeEnRegalia
Date Posted: September 28 2006 at 07:29
^ you have a point there - the archives are "inclusionist" because of the prog related/proto prog genres. But then again these bands and albums are "singled out" and clearly marked non-prog, so these bands are kind of included and rejected at the same time.
As for my own website: In the end it will be all these websites combined in one - you'll be able to filter out genres, prog related bands and ultimately any other criteria (it's all just tags) and even time periods.
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Posted By: Bilek
Date Posted: September 28 2006 at 07:49
Sean Trane wrote:
the last two are probably the better solution but both sorts can be a bit too wide-scoped:-Your inclusionist idea is probably whet PA is because of prog-related and proto-prog, but remains rock
-your all inclusive progressive music is the most frightening one because, we'dhave to include Edgar Varese, Ornette Coleman, Philip Glass etc...
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and don't forget all that stuff from Miles Davis, Herbie Hancock, and even Pharoah Sanders, John Coltrane et al. ![Shocked](https://www.progarchives.com/forum/smileys/smiley3.gif) ![Shocked](https://www.progarchives.com/forum/smileys/smiley3.gif) ![Shocked](https://www.progarchives.com/forum/smileys/smiley3.gif) ![Shocked](https://www.progarchives.com/forum/smileys/smiley3.gif)
Also Santana might be included (which, IMHO, just because of Caravansarai should be) in that case.
as far as I see, I seem to be the only one to categorize himself as inclusionist... that is for a web site type, of course... in listening I'm a strict purist (sticking on to the seventies, along with other related genres of Rock, such as psychedelia and early heavy rock...)
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Posted By: Sean Trane
Date Posted: September 28 2006 at 08:07
Bilek wrote:
Sean Trane wrote:
the last two are probably the better solution but both sorts can be a bit too wide-scoped:-Your inclusionist idea is probably whet PA is because of prog-related and proto-prog, but remains rock
-your all inclusive progressive music is the most frightening one because, we'dhave to include Edgar Varese, Ornette Coleman, Philip Glass etc...
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and don't forget all that stuff from Miles Davis, Herbie Hancock, and even Pharoah Sanders, John Coltrane et al. ![Shocked](https://www.progarchives.com/forum/smileys/smiley3.gif) ![Shocked](https://www.progarchives.com/forum/smileys/smiley3.gif) ![Shocked](https://www.progarchives.com/forum/smileys/smiley3.gif) ![Shocked](https://www.progarchives.com/forum/smileys/smiley3.gif)
Also Santana might be included (which, IMHO, just because of Caravansarai should be) in that case.
as far as I see, I seem to be the only one to categorize himself as inclusionist... that is for a web site type, of course... in listening I'm a strict purist (sticking on to the seventies, along with other related genres of Rock, such as psychedelia and early heavy rock...) |
I think that by including Ornette Coleman (free jazz) I was encompassing most of jazz's exploratiry forms. ![Wink](https://www.progarchives.com/forum/smileys/smiley2.gif)
Santana is only a matter of weeks, I am preparing it
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Posted By: Bilek
Date Posted: September 28 2006 at 08:16
Sean Trane wrote:
I think that by including Ornette Coleman (free jazz) I was encompassing most of jazz's exploratiry forms. ![Wink](https://www.progarchives.com/forum/smileys/smiley2.gif)
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I had no idea of Ornette Coleman ![Cry](https://www.progarchives.com/forum/smileys/smiley19.gif) ![Cry](https://www.progarchives.com/forum/smileys/smiley19.gif) ![Cry](https://www.progarchives.com/forum/smileys/smiley19.gif) ... Is his discography larger than that of Hancock & Davis et al.???
Great news about Santana!!!! I'm sure there will be a great controversy again! (Though not as great as that went around Queen ![Tongue](smileys/smiley17.gif) )
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Posted By: MikeEnRegalia
Date Posted: September 28 2006 at 08:22
^ any John Zorn fan should seriously check out Ornette Coleman!
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Posted By: Sean Trane
Date Posted: September 28 2006 at 08:33
MikeEnRegalia wrote:
^ any John Zorn fan should seriously check out Ornette Coleman!![Clap](smileys/smiley32.gif) |
I was waiting for that one!!Then we can add Moondog and Terry Riley.
Zorn's inclusion on the Archives must be baffling to a few "conventional prog rock" in the conservative sense). Some of Philippe's inclusions must seem that way too.
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Posted By: Philéas
Date Posted: September 28 2006 at 14:31
I view myself as a so-called Abstract Inclusionist. However, I think
that people who view themselves as such in reality often are one of the
other "kinds" (in lack of a better word), depending on their definition of Progressive Music.
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Posted By: Padraic
Date Posted: September 28 2006 at 15:21
I don't know what to vote for, but that's OK because the site isn't letting me vote!
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Posted By: Melomaniac
Date Posted: September 28 2006 at 15:23
Progressionist here... why can't we vote though ?
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Posted By: I|I|I|I|I
Date Posted: September 28 2006 at 21:29
Abstract Progressionist.
Bring on the Herbie Hancock, Miles Davis, Steve Reich, and John Cage! They deserve to be listed as progressive artists!
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Posted By: Bilek
Date Posted: September 29 2006 at 09:40
the poll having been locked, apparently I stand out as the only representative of the inclusionists
Yeah; let's include them all:
The Grateful Dead
The Doors
The Who
Black Sabbath
Led Zeppelin
(even Yardbirds!!!)
Blue Oyster Cult
Rainbow
Santana (coming soon ![Wink](https://www.progarchives.com/forum/smileys/smiley2.gif) )
Jon Lord (one of these days... ![Wink](https://www.progarchives.com/forum/smileys/smiley2.gif) )
Alice Cooper![Shocked](smileys/smiley3.gif)
AC/DC ![Shocked](https://www.progarchives.com/forum/smileys/smiley3.gif)
Iron Maiden![Shocked](https://www.progarchives.com/forum/smileys/smiley3.gif)
Metallica
ZZ Top ![Tongue](smileys/smiley17.gif)
well, there are many others, but the last one is meant to be at the end of the list, eh ![Wink](https://www.progarchives.com/forum/smileys/smiley2.gif) !
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Posted By: MikeEnRegalia
Date Posted: September 29 2006 at 13:27
nobody's locked the poll ... you should all be able to vote. Must be a bug of the forum software!
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Posted By: Fitzcarraldo
Date Posted: September 29 2006 at 13:54
If I'm totally honest, my favourite option would be the first. I'm a genre purist and the type of Prog Rock I enjoy if the stuff from the late 1960s and early 1970s, and music that sounds like it (from goups such as NUOVA ERA, FLOATING STATE, MAURY E I PRONOMI, THIRD QUADRANT and so on). But I don't lose any sleep at all over the fact this site has broadened its coverage, especially as different people like different things. One can, after all, ignore what one is not interested in.
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Posted By: MattiR
Date Posted: October 01 2006 at 07:19
All Progressive Music (abstract Progressionist ;-))
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Posted By: micky
Date Posted: October 01 2006 at 07:29
very good poll question..
Standardist for me.... a prog rock site.. regardless of era or genre.
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Posted By: eugene
Date Posted: October 01 2006 at 08:12
I wish there would be "All progressive but only progressive music" site, kinda snobish and exclusive site, where bands like Queen, Beatles, Deep Purple (with all my love to them) would not be allowed, and the word "metal" would not be ever mentionned in context relating to music.
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Posted By: Atavachron
Date Posted: October 03 2006 at 12:58
Yeah, I don't blame you. Things can get a little off point on certain sites. Now...put down that axe, Eugene.
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Posted By: chamberry
Date Posted: October 03 2006 at 16:45
I concider myself an abstrackt progressionist and I think this is has become that as well.
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Posted By: darkshade
Date Posted: October 03 2006 at 20:48
http://www.everybandintheworld.com - www.everybandintheworld.com is pretty a pretty abstract progressionist site.
the archives def leans to the more inclusionist since there is jazz-rock/fusion, prog-related and proto-prog, prog metal, rio/avant guard, etc...
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Posted By: valravennz
Date Posted: October 05 2006 at 04:38
All Progressive Music (abstract Progressionist ;-))
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Posted By: R o V e R
Date Posted: October 05 2006 at 04:47
Posted By: MikeEnRegalia
Date Posted: October 05 2006 at 05:11
chamberry wrote:
I concider myself an abstrackt progressionist and I think this is has become that as well.
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You think so? The site is still firmly rooted in Rock and Metal IMO.
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Posted By: MadcapLaughs84
Date Posted: October 05 2006 at 11:36
I guess we're all open for any type of prog
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Posted By: daz2112
Date Posted: October 06 2006 at 15:30
All!!
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Posted By: Articuno1
Date Posted: October 09 2006 at 21:59
You gotta have it all, just to show the evolution and diversity of this wondeful genre we call prog.
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Posted By: Pnoom!
Date Posted: October 13 2006 at 21:56
I chose all prog, because this site is clearly the best prog site out there. So, even if I only like music that would be on either a genre purist or perhaps a temporal purist site, this is clearly better. After all, on either of those types of site, we couldn't have this poll...
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Posted By: chamberry
Date Posted: October 14 2006 at 00:04
MikeEnRegalia wrote:
chamberry wrote:
I concider myself an abstrackt progressionist and I think this site has become that as well.
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You think so? The site is still firmly rooted in Rock and Metal IMO.
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Well, it won't be a 100% abstract progressionist website, but it's slowly going to that direction.
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Posted By: Howe Protege
Date Posted: December 14 2006 at 18:53
yes to all
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Posted By: The Miracle
Date Posted: December 14 2006 at 20:23
All of it, that's why I find this site perfect.
Prog related category is its only flaw IMO.
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