10,000 Days vs. Amputechture
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Topic: 10,000 Days vs. Amputechture
Posted By: SirPsycho388
Subject: 10,000 Days vs. Amputechture
Date Posted: September 26 2006 at 12:39
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Which album do you think is better from these leading modern prog giants?
10,000 Days OR Amputechture ------------- Strangers passing in the street by chance two separate glances meet and I am you and what I see is me. And do I take you by the hand and lead you through the land and help me understand the best I can |
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Posted By: Padraic
Date Posted: September 26 2006 at 13:21
| I need to give Amputechture some more listens, but it didn't blow me away with the first impression. For now the vote has to go to 10,000 days. |
Posted By: CaincelaOreinim
Date Posted: September 26 2006 at 13:35
| Volta by 10,000 miles (ah-hr hr). |
Posted By: Bern
Date Posted: September 26 2006 at 13:38
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Amputechture out of these two. I was never a big fan of the Volta but I find this album excellent  -------------  
RIP in bossa nova heaven. |
Posted By: Hatters
Date Posted: September 26 2006 at 13:42
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10,00 Days
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Posted By: Open-Mind
Date Posted: September 26 2006 at 13:49
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10,000 Days for me too
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Posted By: GoldenSpiral
Date Posted: September 26 2006 at 14:19
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These are two albums I've been struggling with this year. They're both good and I like them, but the more I listen, the more each album sounds like an indication that the bands are simply becoming complacent with their sound. Obviously both TMV and Tool are capable of great things, but on 10KD and Amputecture, it seems to me that each has made 'just another album by ______". I wish they would explore their capabilities further rather than just make more albums that sound like their old ones. ------------- http://www.myspace.com/altaic" rel="nofollow - http://www.myspace.com/altaic ALTAIC "Oceans Down You'll Lie" coming soon |
Posted By: CaincelaOreinim
Date Posted: September 26 2006 at 14:49
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Compared to Tool...I feel Volta definitely upped their sound in terms
of scope: dynamics in the compositions, atonal jazz sections, sax
interplay and counterpoint, vocal registers show tons of range and
interesting effects, varied and symmetrical songs (4 lackadaisical or
ballady/psychedelic/raga-esque tracks, 2 epics; Tetragrammaton probably
being the best song I think they've written, 2 jam based songs with
better latin grooves)...whereas Tool have put together an album of
Lateralus b-sides with some new attempts at a guitar solo, post-rock
vibes, and interesting electronics here and there that pretty much
amount to the only saving grace...which isn't much. Again, Volta. |
Posted By: Inferno
Date Posted: September 26 2006 at 15:19
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Volta....I took what...5 years to do a normal album for Tool when Mars
Volta did 3 studio album and a live album during that time and they are
already on the forth album... Mars Volta all the way! Three album, Three different mind setting, Three very good album. Hope the forth will be like that too. something different with the TMV sound...but without Jon Theodore...I just can'T tell! |
Posted By: NecroManiac
Date Posted: September 26 2006 at 15:22
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Can't deside.... Head.... Bursting......! ------------- 
What's yer faovrite album? =^_^= |
Posted By: the icon of sin
Date Posted: September 26 2006 at 15:34
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Nice poll.
I wasn't as impressed with Tool's latest as I was the TMV's. I've only had "Amputechture" a week and have listened to it over twice as much as i've listened to "10,000 Days". Not that the latter is bad, I just consider it Tool's 3rd best album.
The poll was still pretty close though, what edged it is that Tool take too damn long to write stuff.
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Posted By: Benjamin_Breeg
Date Posted: September 26 2006 at 16:06
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10,000 Days to tell the truth i don't really like The Mars Volta ------------- http://www.last.fm/user/Dream_Thief_/?chartstyle=Geldropdown2"> 
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Posted By: moreitsythanyou
Date Posted: September 26 2006 at 17:01
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Mars Volta by a lot
10,000 days fails to impress me while Amputechure clicked instantly -------------  <font color=white>butts, lol[/COLOR] |
Posted By: Kleynan
Date Posted: September 26 2006 at 17:01
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WOW! This has to be one of the most difficult posts, I have ever encountered. I'm really into both of these albums at this moment, but if I'd have to choose, it would be Amputechture. Mainly because "10.000 days" has those filler-tracks that I skip. (And YES: I know about the synchronization). ------------- 
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Posted By: Ty1020
Date Posted: September 26 2006 at 17:03
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I really liked 10,000 days when I first got it but Amputechture is one of my favourite albums. It wins very easily.
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Posted By: chamberry
Date Posted: September 26 2006 at 17:05
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I like 10,000 days, but if I compare it to Amputechture then it isn't as good as I though it was. So Amputechture wins in my book. ------------- 
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Posted By: Raff
Date Posted: September 26 2006 at 17:05
| "Amputechture" by a mile. I found "10,000 Days" somewhat samey, and in any case not as good as "Lateralus". |
Posted By: SomethingGood
Date Posted: September 26 2006 at 17:13
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Amputechture all the way. ive been a massive mars volta fan for a while, and despite my high expectations, i wasn't the slightest bit dissapointed. brilliant album. I'm still not completely into tool. I bought lateralus, in an attempt to "get" what everybody is raving about, and yeah, when i listen to it loud enough i do enjoy it... but there's nothing that really jumps out and grabs you. the same goes with 10,000 Days. About half way through the album i find myself getting bored and switch to a different artist. On the contrary, just hearing one song on Amputechture makes me want to listen to the entire album. ------------- http://www.last.fm/user/somethinggood/"> 
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Posted By: Cheesecakemouse
Date Posted: September 26 2006 at 18:34
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Amputechture for me; first listen couldn't stand it, second listen couldn't get enough of it. I rekon TMV have come of age on this album, they've slowed down a little bit, and given their work a more grounded diverse feel to it, in other words less punki and more prog. Definately their best work and hands down one of the best works so far in the milennium ------------- |
Posted By: NotSoKoolAid
Date Posted: September 26 2006 at 19:10
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Amputechture because Tool sucks!
Oh and Mars Volta is pretty entertaining (far more then Tool), although I'm not sure if I will enjoy them at all anymore due to the drummer leaving.
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Posted By: Harry Hood
Date Posted: September 26 2006 at 19:25
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Amputecture, while not the best album in terms of quality, shows a band trying new things and moving in an exciting new direction.
10,000 Days just feels like more of the same. ------------- 
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Posted By: enteredwinter
Date Posted: September 26 2006 at 22:00
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Nice job making a tough poll. IMO tough polls are generally much more interesting than easy ones, even if the results tend to be too indecisively close. In this case, Amputechture seems to be winning, and it got my vote. The Tool album is good, but a little uneven. I like it a lot, but Amputechture is more consistently impressive. Nevertheless, if I were to rate both albums, each would get about a 4.5. Very close, but Amputechture wins by a slight margin. |
Posted By: The Miracle
Date Posted: September 26 2006 at 22:47
10,000 days, while still a good album is their most boring, while Amputechture is too good for me to describe
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Posted By: KoS
Date Posted: September 26 2006 at 22:51
| 10,000 days I cant get into TMV |
Posted By: Bt-Tor
Date Posted: September 26 2006 at 22:58
| Amputechture is a much more consistent album where 10, 000 Days tends to lose much momentum and creativity after The Pot. Although I really like Tool I find they have a tendency to include a lot uninspired meanderings towards the end of their albums. Of course the Mars Volta are guilty of this as well, especially on Frances the Mute, but I find that with Amputechture their influences are congealing into something solid and unique. In my opinion Amputechture is an excellent album where 10, 000 Days is simply good. |
Posted By: CryoftheCarrots
Date Posted: September 26 2006 at 23:12
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Has to be 10000 Days coz the family will let me play that one on the hifi !!!!!!!!!
Amputecture gets relegated to "turn that down or put the headphones on!"
Like em both but. ------------- "There is a lot in this world to be tense and intense about" MJK |
Posted By: Taril
Date Posted: September 27 2006 at 09:15
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10,000 Days. I dont like Mars Volta. ------------- Bright Ambassadors of Morning |
Posted By: Meddler
Date Posted: September 27 2006 at 09:23
Amputechture is the end of an era. Don't worry. Amp for me.  ------------- [IMG]http://i72.photobucket.com/albums/i165/amorfous/astro-1.jpg"> |
GoldenSpiral wrote:Posted By: Phil
Date Posted: September 27 2006 at 09:40
Absolutely agree with you there. TMV have got more confident, and (a bit) less discordant. I simply can't stop playing the album. 10,000 days is still a fine work, but Amputechture could become a classic.
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Posted By: blbx93
Date Posted: September 27 2006 at 14:05
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Amputechture!
Still doesn't compare to Lateralus Anema or Deloused though.
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Posted By: cuncuna
Date Posted: September 27 2006 at 14:09
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Amputhecture, since it takes 27,397260273972602... years to listen 10.000 days.
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Posted By: Philéas
Date Posted: September 27 2006 at 14:11
I haven't heard 10,000 Days, but Amputechture's cover is better (mind
you, I haven't experienced the supposedly mindblowing packaging of
10,000 Days either, just seen the cover image).  
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Posted By: Visitor13
Date Posted: September 27 2006 at 17:35
| Another one for Amputechture. |
Posted By: the icon of sin
Date Posted: September 27 2006 at 18:19
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Almost every post here includes loving one and hating/indifferent to the other. It's evidently one of those "this town ain't big enough for the both of us" things. |
Posted By: TheProgtologist
Date Posted: September 28 2006 at 08:59
Same here. -------------  |
Posted By: TheProgtologist
Date Posted: September 28 2006 at 09:00
Weird reason to base your opinion on,especially if you haven't seen the packaging for 10,000 Days,which gets my vote for best packaging of 2006. ------------- |
Posted By: MikeEnRegalia
Date Posted: September 28 2006 at 09:01
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Currently Amputechture wins by a narrow margin for me ... it's better than the previous TMV albums.
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Posted By: Phil
Date Posted: September 28 2006 at 09:07
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Posted By: MikeEnRegalia
Date Posted: September 28 2006 at 09:16
I'm sure they'll release the album on vinyl too eventually.
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Posted By: Erpland316
Date Posted: September 28 2006 at 11:07
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They are both great albums. I will have to say Amputechture...right now anyway. The 10,000 Days artwork and packaging is probably the best/most creative I have seen in a long time! ------------- "Science is all metaphor"-Timothy Leary [IMG]http://freespace.virgin.net/martin.jones10/amonpic.jpg">[IMG]http://imagegen.last.fm/red/artists/Yeti316.gif"> |
Posted By: Philéas
Date Posted: September 29 2006 at 14:01
I wasn't very serious you know. As a matter of fact, I haven't voted in the poll because I haven't heard 10,000 Days. |
Posted By: Falling Flower
Date Posted: September 29 2006 at 14:03
10,000 Days. (duh )
I don't like TMV. ------------- 
Tool makes the butterflies in my tumybox go woooooooosh |
Posted By: heyitsthatguy
Date Posted: September 29 2006 at 14:04
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I can't decide, so I refuse to vote ------------- 
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Posted By: Selkie
Date Posted: September 30 2006 at 17:23
| Amputechture is TMV's best. Tool are barely passable for me in general, and the new one is quite horrid. |
Posted By: Jared
Date Posted: September 30 2006 at 17:32
has to be TOOL for me; the only TMV I have heard is on this sites MP3, and something tells me we wouldn't get on together... ------------- Music has always been a matter of energy to me. On some nights I believe that a car with the needle on empty can run 50 more miles if you have the right music very loud on the radio. Hunter S Thompson |
Posted By: FragileDT
Date Posted: November 13 2006 at 23:05
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^^ shouldn't base the mars volta on the one song you've heard on this site. They are very diverse. Especially a song from deloused (which IMO is much less prog than both Frances and Amputechture.)
I voted for Amputechture because I think it's a fantastic album that establishes a lot of haunting moods throughout. Very emotional. 10,000 days is also very good but I am still sticking with the mars volta on this one. ------------- One likes to believe In the freedom of music But glittering prizes And endless Compromises Shatter the illusion Of integrity |
Posted By: The Miracle
Date Posted: November 13 2006 at 23:14
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Amputechture has become one of my all time favorite albums within the forst two nonth of its release - something that has never happened to me before. Pefection in music. 10,000 days is pretty good, but it's Tool's most boring album. ------------- http://www.last.fm/user/ocellatedgod" rel="nofollow - last.fm |
Posted By: UtUmNo1
Date Posted: November 14 2006 at 11:14
| 10,000 Days may have been a little disappointing but it far surpasses the aimless, boring, rehashed noodling that is Amputechture. |
Posted By: Philéas
Date Posted: November 14 2006 at 12:16
| Now that I finally own both albums, I can vote. Although Amputechture is good, I prefer 10,000 Days. TMV better start varying themselves more soon. |
Posted By: el böthy
Date Posted: November 14 2006 at 12:36
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Amputechture is the better album, but 10,000 days isnt bad either! In fact it has the Wings epic, which is the ebst thing Tool might have ever done!
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Posted By: daz2112
Date Posted: November 14 2006 at 15:12
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10,000 Days ------------- In the constellation of cygnus,There lurks a mysterious force...The black hole |
Posted By: FragileDT
Date Posted: November 15 2006 at 01:04
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I don't see why people think the mars volta sound the same on amputechture as they always have. Their sound is FAR different on amputechture. They added the slower more pink-floyd esque sound much more and added a lot of ambient jazz sections with the saxophone that really didn't exist in their previous albums (with the exception of certain parts of Cassandra Geminni.)
The vocals are also very different this time around. A lot of changes in the register and backing vocals that are very high make it a lot different than any of their other albums vocally. Just don't understand the "sounds the same" comparisons. I would with Tool and 10,000 days, but not the mars volta. ------------- One likes to believe In the freedom of music But glittering prizes And endless Compromises Shatter the illusion Of integrity |
Posted By: Open-Mind
Date Posted: November 15 2006 at 01:21
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10,000 Days ------------- "I'm on a roll, I'm on a roll this time, I feel my luck could change.. " |
Posted By: Prog-jester
Date Posted: November 15 2006 at 11:42
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10,000 Days - Tool's best and my fave CD from this year
Amputechture - TMV's worst, 70 minutes of filler(each song could have been half shorter and hence less boring) and one nice song ("Vermicide") Gosh, I've just started the same poll.Excuse me 
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Posted By: hamham
Date Posted: November 15 2006 at 16:13
| I dunno, they are both pretty meaty albums so I vote both :) |
Posted By: Maverick
Date Posted: November 15 2006 at 16:16
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10'000 Days is good enough. Not bad at all. Really good follow-up to Lateralus. Although, 10'000 Days is an album with many FILLERS. Wings For Marie, for example, too much long and boring. Nevertheless, Vicarious is a great track.
Amputechture - best Mars Volta album after De-Loused. I suppose, there IS ONLY ONE FILLER - last track, really boring. First track is some kind of intro with guitar solo - nice. Tetragrammaton is a bit too long, I think it should have been shorter, but the track is good in whole. Viscera Eyes is one of my favs on this album. Day Of The Baphomets - IMPRESSIVE, WONDERFUL track. My favorite Mars Volta song, really. Drum solo in the middle is just great!!! So, Mars Volta wins. ------------- In PROG We Trust |
Posted By: MikeEnRegalia
Date Posted: November 15 2006 at 16:26
Just listened to the vinyl edition of Amputechture and discovered that all 4 sides are "broken" at the end ... after the last track the record player is caught in a loop. It must be intentional ... brilliant idea!
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