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Topic: Rating 70's(ish) R&R
Posted By: DallasBryan
Subject: Rating 70's(ish) R&R
Date Posted: September 23 2006 at 02:02
3 stars http://www.progarchives.com/Review.asp?id=91157 - IRON BUTTERFLY - In-A-Gadda-Da-Vida
4 stars http://www.progarchives.com/Review.asp?id=91156 - DEEP PURPLE - Burn
4 stars http://www.progarchives.com/Review.asp?id=91155 - DEEP PURPLE - In Rock
5 stars http://www.progarchives.com/Review.asp?id=91154 - DEEP PURPLE - Machine Head
3 stars http://www.progarchives.com/Review.asp?id=91153 - BEATLES, THE - Revolver
4 stars http://www.progarchives.com/Review.asp?id=91152 - BEATLES, THE - Let It Be
5 stars http://www.progarchives.com/Review.asp?id=91151 - BEATLES, THE - Abbey Road
5 stars http://www.progarchives.com/Review.asp?id=91150 - BEATLES, THE - Magical Mystery Tour (US Version)
4 stars http://www.progarchives.com/Review.asp?id=91149 - BEATLES, THE - Sergeant Pepper's Lonely Heart's Club Band
3 stars http://www.progarchives.com/Review.asp?id=91148 - ROXY MUSIC - Siren
3 stars http://www.progarchives.com/Review.asp?id=91147 - ROXY MUSIC - Country Life
2 stars http://www.progarchives.com/Review.asp?id=91146 - ROXY MUSIC - For Your Pleasure
3 stars http://www.progarchives.com/Review.asp?id=91145 - QUEEN - News Of The World
2 stars http://www.progarchives.com/Review.asp?id=91144 - QUEEN - A Day At The Races
3 stars http://www.progarchives.com/Review.asp?id=91143 - QUEEN - A Night At The Opera
2 stars http://www.progarchives.com/Review.asp?id=91142 - QUEEN - Queen II
4 stars http://www.progarchives.com/Review.asp?id=91141 - QUEEN - Sheer Heart Attack
2 stars http://www.progarchives.com/Review.asp?id=91140 - URIAH HEEP - The Magician's Birthday
3 stars http://www.progarchives.com/Review.asp?id=91139 - URIAH HEEP - Salisbury
3 stars http://www.progarchives.com/Review.asp?id=91138 - URIAH HEEP - Demons and Wizards
4 stars http://www.progarchives.com/Review.asp?id=91137 - SUPERTRAMP - Breakfast in America
3 stars http://www.progarchives.com/Review.asp?id=91136 - SUPERTRAMP - Even in the Quietest Moments....
3 stars http://www.progarchives.com/Review.asp?id=91135 - SUPERTRAMP - Crime of the Century
2 stars http://www.progarchives.com/Review.asp?id=91134 - RUSH - Moving Pictures
2 stars http://www.progarchives.com/Review.asp?id=91133 - RUSH - Permanent Waves
2 stars http://www.progarchives.com/Review.asp?id=91132 - RUSH - Hemispheres
2 stars http://www.progarchives.com/Review.asp?id=91131 - RUSH - 2112
3 stars http://www.progarchives.com/Review.asp?id=91130 - RUSH - A Farewell to Kings
2 stars http://www.progarchives.com/Review.asp?id=91129 - OLD MAN & THE SEA, THE - The Old Man & The Sea
3 stars http://www.progarchives.com/Review.asp?id=91128 - MANN'S EARTH BAND, MANFRED - Solar Fire
2 stars http://www.progarchives.com/Review.asp?id=91127 - KAYAK - Royal Bed Bouncer
2 stars http://www.progarchives.com/Review.asp?id=91126 - KAYAK - Kayak II
3 stars http://www.progarchives.com/Review.asp?id=91125 - JANE - Together
3 stars http://www.progarchives.com/Review.asp?id=91124 - HØST - Hardt Mot Hardt
2 stars http://www.progarchives.com/Review.asp?id=91123 - GNIDROLOG - Lady Lake
3 stars http://www.progarchives.com/Review.asp?id=91122 - GARYBALDI - Nuda
2 stars http://www.progarchives.com/Review.asp?id=91121 - CAPTAIN BEYOND - Captain Beyond
3 stars http://www.progarchives.com/Review.asp?id=91120 - BARCLAY JAMES HARVEST (BJH) - Octoberon
2 stars http://www.progarchives.com/Review.asp?id=91119 - ARGENT - Nexus
 
3 stars are very good albums
 
ps - Dont forget that I grade stiffly using the full 1-5 star rating system.
5 being masterpiece, dont give this mark to many
4 being near masterpiece, or very good, classic sound, defining
3 being really good, some may consider classic, worthy listen
2 being good or collectors or those who really like the band, clone bands
1 being some good some fair songs, fair clone bands, not bad 
 
anything below this I dont consider worth ratingBig smile




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Posted By: Ricochet
Date Posted: September 23 2006 at 02:05
Pinch at Rush.
Pinch at Beatles.


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Posted By: R o V e R
Date Posted: September 23 2006 at 02:22
RUSH ******


Posted By: R o V e R
Date Posted: September 23 2006 at 02:24
Originally posted by DallasBryan DallasBryan wrote:

http://www.progarchives.com/Review.asp?id=91157 - IRON BUTTERFLY - In-A-Gadda-Da-Vida http://www.progarchives.com/Review.asp?id=91156 - DEEP PURPLE - Burn http://www.progarchives.com/Review.asp?id=91155 - DEEP PURPLE - In Rock http://www.progarchives.com/Review.asp?id=91154 - DEEP PURPLE - Machine Head http://www.progarchives.com/Review.asp?id=91153 - BEATLES, THE - Revolver http://www.progarchives.com/Review.asp?id=91152 - BEATLES, THE - Let It Be http://www.progarchives.com/Review.asp?id=91151 - BEATLES, THE - Abbey Road http://www.progarchives.com/Review.asp?id=91150 - BEATLES, THE - Magical Mystery Tour (US Version) http://www.progarchives.com/Review.asp?id=91149 - BEATLES, THE - Sergeant Pepper's Lonely Heart's Club Band http://www.progarchives.com/Review.asp?id=91148 - ROXY MUSIC - Siren http://www.progarchives.com/Review.asp?id=91147 - ROXY MUSIC - Country Life http://www.progarchives.com/Review.asp?id=91146 - ROXY MUSIC - For Your Pleasure http://www.progarchives.com/Review.asp?id=91145 - QUEEN - News Of The World http://www.progarchives.com/Review.asp?id=91144 - QUEEN - A Day At The Races http://www.progarchives.com/Review.asp?id=91143 - QUEEN - A Night At The Opera http://www.progarchives.com/Review.asp?id=91142 - QUEEN - Queen II http://www.progarchives.com/Review.asp?id=91141 - QUEEN - Sheer Heart Attack http://www.progarchives.com/Review.asp?id=91140 - URIAH HEEP - The Magician's Birthday http://www.progarchives.com/Review.asp?id=91139 - URIAH HEEP - Salisbury http://www.progarchives.com/Review.asp?id=91138 - URIAH HEEP - Demons and Wizards http://www.progarchives.com/Review.asp?id=91137 - SUPERTRAMP - Breakfast in America http://www.progarchives.com/Review.asp?id=91136 - SUPERTRAMP - Even in the Quietest Moments.... http://www.progarchives.com/Review.asp?id=91135 - SUPERTRAMP - Crime of the Century http://www.progarchives.com/Review.asp?id=91134 - RUSH - Moving Pictures http://www.progarchives.com/Review.asp?id=91133 - RUSH - Permanent Waves http://www.progarchives.com/Review.asp?id=91132 - RUSH - Hemispheres http://www.progarchives.com/Review.asp?id=91131 - RUSH - 2112 http://www.progarchives.com/Review.asp?id=91130 - RUSH - A Farewell to Kings http://www.progarchives.com/Review.asp?id=91129 - OLD MAN & THE SEA, THE - The Old Man & The Sea http://www.progarchives.com/Review.asp?id=91128 - MANN'S EARTH BAND, MANFRED - Solar Fire http://www.progarchives.com/Review.asp?id=91127 - KAYAK - Royal Bed Bouncer http://www.progarchives.com/Review.asp?id=91126 - KAYAK - Kayak II http://www.progarchives.com/Review.asp?id=91125 - JANE - Together http://www.progarchives.com/Review.asp?id=91124 - HØST - Hardt Mot Hardt http://www.progarchives.com/Review.asp?id=91123 - GNIDROLOG - Lady Lake http://www.progarchives.com/Review.asp?id=91122 - GARYBALDI - Nuda http://www.progarchives.com/Review.asp?id=91121 - CAPTAIN BEYOND - Captain Beyond http://www.progarchives.com/Review.asp?id=91120 - BARCLAY JAMES HARVEST (BJH) - Octoberon http://www.progarchives.com/Review.asp?id=91119 - ARGENT - Nexus
 



3 stars are very good albums
 


ps - Dont forget that I grade stiffly using the full 1-5 star rating system.

5 being masterpiece, dont give this mark to many

4 being near masterpiece, or very good, classic sound, defining

3 being really good, some may consider classic, worthy listen

2 being good or collectors or those who really like the band, clone bands

1 being some good some fair songs, fair clone bands, not bad 

 

anything below this I dont consider worth rating[IMG]height=17 alt="Big smile" src="http://www.progarchives.com/forum/smileys/smiley4.gif" width=17 align=absMiddle>




poor ratings

"Faltu" in my language
    


Posted By: Australian
Date Posted: September 23 2006 at 02:33
Originally posted by Ricochet Ricochet wrote:

Pinch at Rush.
Pinch at Beatles.
 
I agree. A too harsh there.


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Posted By: DallasBryan
Date Posted: September 23 2006 at 02:39
whoa.....salesmen........Geek


Posted By: lucas
Date Posted: September 23 2006 at 03:22
Beatles & iron butterfly 70' ish ?

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"Magma was the very first gothic rock band" (Didier Lockwood)


Posted By: R o V e R
Date Posted: September 23 2006 at 03:42
Originally posted by DallasBryan DallasBryan wrote:

http://www.progarchives.com/Review.asp?id=91157 - IRON BUTTERFLY - In-A-Gadda-Da-Vida http://www.progarchives.com/Review.asp?id=91156 - DEEP PURPLE - Burn http://www.progarchives.com/Review.asp?id=91155 - DEEP PURPLE - In Rock http://www.progarchives.com/Review.asp?id=91154 - DEEP PURPLE - Machine Head http://www.progarchives.com/Review.asp?id=91153 - BEATLES, THE - Revolver http://www.progarchives.com/Review.asp?id=91152 - BEATLES, THE - Let It Be http://www.progarchives.com/Review.asp?id=91151 - BEATLES, THE - Abbey Road http://www.progarchives.com/Review.asp?id=91150 - BEATLES, THE - Magical Mystery Tour (US Version) http://www.progarchives.com/Review.asp?id=91149 - BEATLES, THE - Sergeant Pepper's Lonely Heart's Club Band http://www.progarchives.com/Review.asp?id=91148 - ROXY MUSIC - Siren http://www.progarchives.com/Review.asp?id=91147 - ROXY MUSIC - Country Life http://www.progarchives.com/Review.asp?id=91146 - ROXY MUSIC - For Your Pleasure http://www.progarchives.com/Review.asp?id=91145 - QUEEN - News Of The World http://www.progarchives.com/Review.asp?id=91144 - QUEEN - A Day At The Races http://www.progarchives.com/Review.asp?id=91143 - QUEEN - A Night At The Opera http://www.progarchives.com/Review.asp?id=91142 - QUEEN - Queen II http://www.progarchives.com/Review.asp?id=91141 - QUEEN - Sheer Heart Attack http://www.progarchives.com/Review.asp?id=91140 - URIAH HEEP - The Magician's Birthday http://www.progarchives.com/Review.asp?id=91139 - URIAH HEEP - Salisbury http://www.progarchives.com/Review.asp?id=91138 - URIAH HEEP - Demons and Wizards http://www.progarchives.com/Review.asp?id=91137 - SUPERTRAMP - Breakfast in America http://www.progarchives.com/Review.asp?id=91136 - SUPERTRAMP - Even in the Quietest Moments.... http://www.progarchives.com/Review.asp?id=91135 - SUPERTRAMP - Crime of the Century http://www.progarchives.com/Review.asp?id=91134 - RUSH - Moving Pictures http://www.progarchives.com/Review.asp?id=91133 - RUSH - Permanent Waves http://www.progarchives.com/Review.asp?id=91132 - RUSH - Hemispheres http://www.progarchives.com/Review.asp?id=91131 - RUSH - 2112 http://www.progarchives.com/Review.asp?id=91130 - RUSH - A Farewell to Kings http://www.progarchives.com/Review.asp?id=91129 - OLD MAN & THE SEA, THE - The Old Man & The Sea http://www.progarchives.com/Review.asp?id=91128 - MANN'S EARTH BAND, MANFRED - Solar Fire http://www.progarchives.com/Review.asp?id=91127 - KAYAK - Royal Bed Bouncer http://www.progarchives.com/Review.asp?id=91126 - KAYAK - Kayak II http://www.progarchives.com/Review.asp?id=91125 - JANE - Together http://www.progarchives.com/Review.asp?id=91124 - HØST - Hardt Mot Hardt http://www.progarchives.com/Review.asp?id=91123 - GNIDROLOG - Lady Lake http://www.progarchives.com/Review.asp?id=91122 - GARYBALDI - Nuda http://www.progarchives.com/Review.asp?id=91121 - CAPTAIN BEYOND - Captain Beyond http://www.progarchives.com/Review.asp?id=91120 - BARCLAY JAMES HARVEST (BJH) - Octoberon http://www.progarchives.com/Review.asp?id=91119 - ARGENT - Nexus
 



3 stars are very good albums
 


ps - Dont forget that I grade stiffly using the full 1-5 star rating system.

5 being masterpiece, dont give this mark to many

4 being near masterpiece, or very good, classic sound, defining

3 being really good, some may consider classic, worthy listen

2 being good or collectors or those who really like the band, clone bands

1 being some good some fair songs, fair clone bands, not bad 

 

anything below this I dont consider worth rating[IMG]height=17 alt="Big smile" src="http://www.progarchives.com/forum/smileys/smiley4.gif" width=17 align=absMiddle>

    





Huddd


Posted By: fuxi
Date Posted: September 23 2006 at 04:15
What a funny list! If you're talking about Roxy Music, where's STREET LIFE? I also assume you've limited yourself to performers included in Progarchives, otherwise where are the Who, the Stones, Led Zep, David Bowie and Lou Reed? (All of whom recorded far better stuff than Deep Purple, Queen or [yuk!] Rush...)

(Not to mention Graham Parker, Elvis Costello, Ian Dury, Patti Smith and the Pretenders: first rate R&R, every single one of them!)

No, don't worry, I AM a proghead!


Posted By: MikeEnRegalia
Date Posted: September 23 2006 at 04:22
The only rating that I could *never* agree with - is 2 stars for Queen II. Especially from a prog standpoint it is their masterpiece!

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Posted By: Sean Trane
Date Posted: September 23 2006 at 05:22
Originally posted by Australian Australian wrote:

 
Originally posted by Ricochet Ricochet wrote:

 
Pinch at Rush.
Pinch at Beatles.

 
I agree. A too harsh there.
 
 
Not really.  Realistic would be my description, although he is just as severe as I am
 
 
I am more shocked that Supertramp and Roxy's proggier moments are rated lower than their poppier albums: COTC is less than BIA anf Roxy's FYP less than Siren????Confused and Mike's remark about Queen too!


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prefer the sink to the gutter
keep our sand-castle virtues
content to be a doer
as well as a thinker,
prefer lifting our pen
rather than un-sheath our sword


Posted By: Ricochet
Date Posted: September 23 2006 at 05:45
Sorry Hugues, but nothing is realistic about Rush's best albums being two stars. Two stars for me = mediocrity that is just about fit for a listen.

I admire Dallas Bryan for being excellent in his impartiality, except those medium-rated Schulze albums I had no major discontent (Embarrassed), but up to some albums it's just too low. Rush, overall, in its best years, is anything but a two stars.

On the other hand, The Beatles being such jewels and models is also edgy in realistic impression. I admit that, up here, I personally dislike the Beatles; but it's the perspective of many albums being of high value. Disproportion or what? Exception from the impartiality or am I just mistaking?

Disapprove


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Posted By: Sean Trane
Date Posted: September 23 2006 at 06:55
Well his Beatles ratings seems flawless except for the Magical Mystery tour which I give three stars (and two according to Dallas's scale)
 
Rush: it really depends if you dig Geddy's  Vocals doesn't it?
 
and if you read the scale Bryan gives under  his list (this means forget the PA scale), StarStar is still good.


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let's just stay above the moral melee
prefer the sink to the gutter
keep our sand-castle virtues
content to be a doer
as well as a thinker,
prefer lifting our pen
rather than un-sheath our sword


Posted By: Ricochet
Date Posted: September 23 2006 at 07:04
well I said two stars in my version.

DallasB does not have other accent than good. Leaving, indeed, PA out of the bussines, can anything of 1 star sound like "some good and fair"?

(this is nothing too serious meant, just discussing, if we caught the motion of discussion...)


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Posted By: Eetu Pellonpaa
Date Posted: September 23 2006 at 12:16
5 stars http://www.progarchives.com/Review.asp?id=91154 - DEEP PURPLE - Machine Head
2 stars http://www.progarchives.com/Review.asp?id=91140 - URIAH HEEP - The Magician's Birthday
3 stars http://www.progarchives.com/Review.asp?id=91139 - URIAH HEEP - Salisbury  
2 stars http://www.progarchives.com/Review.asp?id=91131 - RUSH - 2112
2 stars http://www.progarchives.com/Review.asp?id=91123 - GNIDROLOG - Lady Lake
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Posted By: yesfan88
Date Posted: October 02 2006 at 00:02
Why is Magical Mystery Tour rated higher than Sgt. Pepper's? Also, you've rated Rush too low all around.

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