Darkest 70's Prog Album
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Topic: Darkest 70's Prog Album
Posted By: Rocktopus
Subject: Darkest 70's Prog Album
Date Posted: September 15 2006 at 10:06
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There is a lot of different kinds of darkness and expressions on this list. If you have another dark favorite, please write which one. Some of you might miss Genesis, Yes, Gentle Giant, ELP, Rush but I just find them too sunny and lighthearted compared to most of these. You're also welcome to disagree on my inclusions. Which album do you consider 70's prog's dark masterpiece? ------------- Over land and under ashes In the sunlight, see - it flashes Find a fly and eat his eye But don't believe in me Don't believe in me Don't believe in me |
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Posted By: Raff
Date Posted: September 15 2006 at 10:08
| Tie between "Ys" and "First Utterance", as far as I'm concerned. I voted for the latter, though, which I found really disturbing - and musically quite wonderful as well. |
Posted By: Ricochet
Date Posted: September 15 2006 at 10:11
can you explain what album of Ash Ra Tempel is called "Same"?  the "dark" meaning is pretty much voiled. and as I am welcome to disagree on your inclusions, thank you for that  , I saw Animals' not dark, Pawn Hearts' not darkest of VdGG, A Passion Play isn't dark, 666's not dark, In Camera's not dark enough. I don't know what to vote.  ------------- 
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Posted By: Jimbo
Date Posted: September 15 2006 at 10:22
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Well, Univers Zero's Heresie is quite possibly the darkest album I have ever heard, but I don't consider it a masterpiece. If it has to be dark and a masterpiece, I would say King Crimson's Red. It's a tough call though, there's lots of excellent music on that list. ------------- 
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Posted By: Rocktopus
Date Posted: September 15 2006 at 10:25
Dark is very subjective, of course. Some think of prog-metal (or growling) as really dark, while others think of the whole genre as a joke. I still guess 10-15 of these bands/albums are pretty obvious on a list like this. To me Pawn Hearts and In Camera are very dark. A Passion Play is defenatly JT's darkest imo (not that it says a lot), I could easily have chosen another album from most bands included here. ------------- Over land and under ashes In the sunlight, see - it flashes Find a fly and eat his eye But don't believe in me Don't believe in me Don't believe in me |
Ricochet wrote:Posted By: Ricochet
Date Posted: September 15 2006 at 10:27
okay,I'll say "valid" this time. -------------
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Posted By: Sean Trane
Date Posted: September 15 2006 at 10:37
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in the absence of any Art Zoyd record, than Univers Zero's Heresie will win this hands down. I never really thought of Comus as dark in the depressive sense (which is what I believe is meant here)?
Comus was pagan , demons etc... >> spooky but not dark. ------------- let's just stay above the moral melee prefer the sink to the gutter keep our sand-castle virtues content to be a doer as well as a thinker, prefer lifting our pen rather than un-sheath our sword |
Posted By: Open-Mind
Date Posted: September 15 2006 at 10:38
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Red!
------------- "I'm on a roll, I'm on a roll this time, I feel my luck could change.. " |
Posted By: Rocktopus
Date Posted: September 15 2006 at 10:51
No, not depressive. I think of First Utterance are dark, destructive and violent (but still highly entertaining). My girlfriend think its one of my darkest albums. She gets uncomfortable by the album's whole atmosphere. I think dark can be a lot of things. None of the albums in the poll are depressing to me. (except for Animals, that I don't really like myself) And defenatly not Heresie. Scary, dark and evil maybe. ------------- Over land and under ashes In the sunlight, see - it flashes Find a fly and eat his eye But don't believe in me Don't believe in me Don't believe in me |
Posted By: Fassbinder
Date Posted: September 15 2006 at 11:07
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Another interesting poll... Another tough choice...
Opinions vary. For instance, I consider Gnidrolog's second album, Lady Lake, to be darker than In Spite of Harry's Toe-nail. Over for me is darker than In Camera and both Still Life and Godbluff are darker than Pawn Hearts.
There are too many candidates in the poll: A Passion Play, Rock Bottom, Red, In Camera...
Still, I'll vote for Godbluff (i.e., "Other").
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Posted By: Melomaniac
Date Posted: September 15 2006 at 11:11
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Holy crap! I don't know more than half of these albums! I'll vote for Red anyway, the darkest of those I know in the list. ------------- "One likes to believe in the freedom of Music" - Neil Peart, The Spirit of Radio |
Posted By: Rocktopus
Date Posted: September 15 2006 at 11:24
With Over I can easily understand why, but I actually consider that collection of hopeless love songs to be more depressive, sad and melancholic (which I know can be thought of as dark, too). I was thinking about choosing Silent Corner... instead of In Camera myself. And I find In Spite... a lot darker than Lady Lake... Strange. But Godbluff could very well have been in the poll. ------------- Over land and under ashes In the sunlight, see - it flashes Find a fly and eat his eye But don't believe in me Don't believe in me Don't believe in me |
Posted By: Asphalt
Date Posted: September 15 2006 at 12:13
very well said; with this in mind i'm going to refer to Aphrodite's Child - 666 because, although it's not all dark, when it actually is it surpasses anything else i've heard by a band, be it new or old; listening to it i actually found myself thinking at times "so this is what black metal is trying to make me feel" i believe the band managed to get to the concept of apocalypse quite well and that this is in fact an album that will make you feel uncomfortable in some parts, more than any other dark prog album |
Posted By: Benjamin_Breeg
Date Posted: September 15 2006 at 12:26
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Red - KC
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Posted By: ProgFan
Date Posted: September 15 2006 at 12:27
Pink Floyd - Animals
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Posted By: Philéas
Date Posted: September 15 2006 at 12:47
| I haven't heard all in the list, but out of those I have heard, Mekanïk Destruktïw Kommandöh is the darkest if you ask me. |
Posted By: Abstrakt
Date Posted: September 15 2006 at 12:49
| Animals is the darkest one of those i've heard |
Posted By: Rocktopus
Date Posted: September 15 2006 at 12:52
Animals is in the lead? Is that supposed to be our dark masterpiece? I might as well just rephrase the question to: What album is the most well known among these?
------------- Over land and under ashes In the sunlight, see - it flashes Find a fly and eat his eye But don't believe in me Don't believe in me Don't believe in me |
Posted By: Kleynan
Date Posted: September 15 2006 at 12:55
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I voted other: King Crimson's "In The Wake of Poseidon"
But my favorite dark album of the seventies is Tim Buckley's "Starsailor". It's pretty proggy, but I don't consider it to be prog. ------------- 
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Posted By: el böthy
Date Posted: September 15 2006 at 14:27
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I havent heard it, but inst Jacula supoused to be like the darkest thing ever???
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Posted By: el böthy
Date Posted: September 15 2006 at 14:29
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Red is not that dark...I think Lark´s is darker!...and better
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Posted By: NecroManiac
Date Posted: September 15 2006 at 15:30
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Van Der Graaf Generator - Pawn Hearts is more dark and depressing than everything else on the list.
Seriously, I am trying to force some upbeat music on myself just to get away from it's spell.
Higly reacomented! Just keep those razorblades away from your wrists. ------------- 
What's yer faovrite album? =^_^= |
Posted By: fuxi
Date Posted: September 15 2006 at 16:18
| Any album that ends with Ivor Cutler singing 'I fight with the handle of my little brown broom' cannot be dark! |
Posted By: Asphalt
Date Posted: September 15 2006 at 16:38
true, true  however, neither is that dark in comparison to other albums on that list; they're rather heavier than most of the stuff there |
Posted By: Kleynan
Date Posted: September 15 2006 at 17:18
I agree! In fact, I'm listening to it right now, and it's darkness awes me!  -------------
You've just had a heavy session of electroshock therapy, and you're more relaxed than you've been in weeks. |
Posted By: eugene
Date Posted: September 15 2006 at 17:56
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Island "Pictures" is sadly not on this list, but out of those listed UZ "Heresie" is the darkest. The darkness there is almost psychotic, and it's not winning this poll simply because not enough people listened to it.
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Posted By: Logan
Date Posted: September 15 2006 at 18:01
Anyway, I don't know quite a few of these, but voted for Il Balletto Di Bronzo's YS. |
Posted By: Australian
Date Posted: September 15 2006 at 19:09
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I'll go with Red, an "unhappy" album at best. ------------- 
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Posted By: micky
Date Posted: September 15 2006 at 20:24
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jesus ....love the results hahahhahahah yeah right the man actually does a hell of a nice job with the options... Jacula? oh helll yeah... and people choose the probably least 'dark' one of the whole damn group ... oh well encounters with death... scary as hell keys and guitars.. haunting female soprano voices.. .and mellotron dense enough to cut with a knife... Il Balletto di Bronzo's - Ys though could have with a number of others.... ------------- The Pedro and Micky Experience - When one no longer requires psychotropics to trip |
Posted By: yesfan88
Date Posted: September 15 2006 at 20:30
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I went for Animals, although I'm not familiar with many of the other choices. ------------- "I disapprove of what you say, but I will defend to the death your right to say it"- Evelyn Beatrice Hall |
Posted By: SolariS
Date Posted: September 15 2006 at 20:31
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van der graaf is the first thing that came to mind, so I voted for that. Very very dark feeling music IMO -------------  
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Posted By: MattiR
Date Posted: September 16 2006 at 09:37
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Posted By: bhikkhu
Date Posted: September 16 2006 at 09:50
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It's gotta' be "Ys." Without even understanding the lyrics, this is some very dark stuff. ------------- a.k.a. H.T. http://riekels.wordpress.com" rel="nofollow - http://riekels.wordpress.com |
Posted By: Bj-1
Date Posted: September 16 2006 at 11:46
Lark's = dark???? No no no, Starless and Bible Black is dark!
Red isn't that dark either.
I pick Pawn Hearts. ------------- RIO/AVANT/ZEUHL - The best thing you can get with yer pants on! |
Posted By: The Wizard
Date Posted: September 16 2006 at 11:48
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Peter Hammill - In Camera. I freaks me out everytime I hear it, especially Gog/Magog. -------------  
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Posted By: Drew
Date Posted: September 16 2006 at 11:54
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Something from Asia? ------------- |
Posted By: Raff
Date Posted: September 16 2006 at 12:01
HT, if you are interested in an English translation of the lyrics to "Ys", that's the place to go: http://www.arlequins.it/translations/translations.asp - http://www.arlequins.it/translations/translations.asp |
Posted By: Syzygy
Date Posted: September 16 2006 at 12:09
Prog doesn't get much darker than Heresie, although in the 80s Shub Niggurath arguably went even further with Les Morts Vont Vite. Art Zoyd were pretty sombre, but I don't think they ever went into quite as dark a place as early UZ.
Henry Cow - Unrest could also have a place on that list. ------------- 'Like so many of you I've got my doubts about how much to contribute to the already rich among us...' Robert Wyatt, Gloria Gloom |
Posted By: gong
Date Posted: September 16 2006 at 23:43
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Schulze - Irrlicht |
Posted By: VanderGraafKommandöh
Date Posted: September 17 2006 at 00:55
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I've yet to hear Heresie (only heard their debut), so I'm going for First Utterance. I'd say that album was more scary and uncomfortable though. VdGG, as much as I like them, are not that dark to my ears and infact, Hammill is pretty much having a laugh on all VdGG albums, even his own. The exception to that is Over, which I've somehow not yet heard (waiting for the remaster). I must listen to Ys again sometime, I've only heard it the once. -------------   
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Posted By: Asyte2c00
Date Posted: September 17 2006 at 00:57
The first eight minutes of "La Faulx" are frightfully haunting, other than that the album itself sounds like a bad sound check.
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Posted By: Rocktopus
Date Posted: September 17 2006 at 03:48
It could, maybe I should just replace Animals with it? It would get ten well deserved votes straight away. I sort of forgot how dark that album is. Geck0. I know that Peter Hammill has humour, but he's lyrics are defenatly very dark and not that funny. I believe Pawn Hearts is a dark view on our existence and Hammill at his least ironic. Young, full of rage and even naive. Of Course/Gog Magog is tounge in cheek (but still dark), but how aboutThe Cometh, the Curse...? A Louse is not a Home, A Plague of Lighthouse Keepers, Lemmings? For me Over is an exeption because its hopeless and depressing. But I can't define dark for any other than myself. ------------- Over land and under ashes In the sunlight, see - it flashes Find a fly and eat his eye But don't believe in me Don't believe in me Don't believe in me |
Posted By: Harkmark
Date Posted: September 17 2006 at 06:14
Bad sound check?  Listen again. And again. And again... How can people differ so much as to their impression/understanding of this album? A (dark) masterpiece, that transcends most of prog IMO. |
Posted By: PaperDuck
Date Posted: September 17 2006 at 06:20
Idunno - aside from Are you ready Eddy I think Tarkus is pretty dark, and it's pretty clear they added that one off the cutting-room floor. (Yes, I think Jeremy Bender is dark in its own ironic, macabre sort of way - it does deal with themes of violence, homosexuality and prejudice). Of course, if you left in Eddy and cut out Tarkus, you could say it was dark in a whole nother dimension...
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Posted By: BaldFriede
Date Posted: September 17 2006 at 08:05
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Maybe "Xitintoday" by Nik Turner's Sphynx, an album about the Egyptian Book of the Dead.
-------------  BaldJean and I; I am the one in blue. |
Posted By: babydoctor
Date Posted: September 18 2006 at 08:36
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Oh yeah!! This is my territory!! [Excitedly jots down the four albums not yet heard.] I like creative dark music across genres--and sometimes tire of searching for it amongst the "sunny and lighthearted" products. This is a great list for 70's prog. (Although, as someone mentioned, Island: Pictures should be on the list, perhaps in place of 666.) Heresie is plenty dark, but I've never thought it as dark as people say...maybe I had just built up my hopes too much from the start. IMO, Can's "Aumgn" is a scarier piece of prog, and Ys is more evil. First Utterance is twisted and deranged album--and very, very good. A tempting choice. However, if darkness is taken strictly as the absence of light...as in cold, distant space, we are much closer to the territory of Irrlicht and Alpha Centauri--or, perhaps the most desolate of all, Zeit. On the other hand, chosing an ambient album as a dark *prog* masterpiece is not really fair, since bleak sonicscapes is indeed the raison d'etre (pun intended) of dark ambient. If I were trying to convince someone familiar with Yes, Genesis, and ELP that prog can, in fact, be dark, I suppose I would select Pawn Hearts and the Crimson trilogy Larks Tongues..., Starless..., and Red. Both VdGG and KC could evoke darkness (and madness) through beauty and chaos, both very tastefully. Animals is not a happy album to say the least, but Floyd is almost too likable, not as musically disturbing as any of the above--but then there is no reason that dark must imply difficult. In Camera is a pet favorite (with Silent Corner close behind), dark in a sexy, existential sort of way...but neither the darkest nor very much prog. MDK...now, I never figured out what made that one so dark--but it is one of the most annoying things I've ever heard, and I respect Magma for that! Ah...I'm still stumped. So much good music, so many colors of darkness. The only clear winner is this poll.  |
Posted By: salmacis
Date Posted: September 18 2006 at 15:49
| '666' for me. It's maybe the definitive prog double album to these ears- certainly there's nothing that sounds like this in the slightest. It's thrillingly dark, the production and eerie voices, plus various warped melodies and creepy vocal/keyboard interludes make for a staggeringly bleak listen. |
Posted By: Forgotten Son
Date Posted: September 18 2006 at 16:15
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A three-way tie between Comus' First Utterance, Il Balletto Di Bronzo's YS and Jacula's Tardo Pede in Magiam Versus. Pawn Hearts was the first to leap out at me, but upon closer inspection I noticed these three albums. In the end I voted for Tardo Pede in Magiam Versus, which inexplicably no one else had voted for. Great choices, BTW. |
Posted By: Uroboros
Date Posted: September 18 2006 at 18:26
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I voted for Univers Zero, but I've yet to hear some of them. ------------- Tous les chemins qui s’ouvrent à moi ne mènent à rien si tu n’es plus là |
Posted By: babydoctor
Date Posted: September 18 2006 at 18:50
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I just realized that no one mentioned Arachnoid. Allow me: "Arachnoid
should be on any list of dark 70's prog." Okay, that's better. Glad someone finally voted for Jacula. You can't go wrong with gothic church organ. |
Posted By: babydoctor
Date Posted: September 18 2006 at 19:02
Like what? 
Far East Family Band is the only Asian 70's prog band I know. Their
atmospheres are often lovely and seductive but not all that dark.
Now...if you are referring to frightening music like "The Heat of the
Moment" and "Only Time Will Tell", that's the wrong decade, silly!  |
Posted By: The Whistler
Date Posted: September 19 2006 at 02:50
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Ugh! My main guys, Minstrel in the Gallery and Wish You Were Here? Where's they? I don't have either of their replacements...Passion Play 'n Animals (respectively). Reckon I'd best to purchase those. ------------- "There seem to be quite a large percentage of young American boys out there tonight. A long way from home, eh? Well so are we... Gotta stick together." -I. Anderson |
Posted By: R o V e R
Date Posted: September 19 2006 at 03:10
same with me |
Posted By: BaldJean
Date Posted: September 19 2006 at 03:34
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I'll go along with Friede and vote for "Xitintoday". very dark album; you can't go any darker than a trip to the ancient Egyptian underworld. highly recommended album, but unfortunately only available on vinyl and a real rarity. have a look at these reviews, one by me and the other just recently added by Tom Ozric (nice to know someone else knows and loves this album): http://www.progarchives.com/Review.asp?id=40870 - http://www.progarchives.com/Review.asp?id=40870 http://www.progarchives.com/Review.asp?id=89602 - http://www.progarchives.com/Review.asp?id=89602 -------------  A shot of me as High Priestess of Gaia during our fall festival. Ceterum censeo principiis obsta |
Posted By: oliverstoned
Date Posted: September 19 2006 at 03:38
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Indeed, these descriptionss are mouth watering, except maybe the references given by Mr Ozric: "Along with Steve Hillage's 'Green', Tim Blake's 'New Jerusalem' and Mother Gong's 'Fairy Tales', Xitintoday is a MUST HAVE" --->three albums which are not so mind blowing IMO. Is this comparison really fair? |
Posted By: BaldJean
Date Posted: September 19 2006 at 03:50
at least "Fairy Tales" is mindblowing; 5 stars all the way. "Green" is excellent, but I would not quite put it up there; a solid 4 star album though. "New Jerusalem" would get 3 stars from me. no idea why you don't like "Fairy Tales", Oliver; Didier Malherbe's performance alone on this album is already worth 5 stars. perhaps the album is not "spacey" enough for you (although I consider it to be VERY spacey; try to lose yourself in these fairy tales, which are so excellently accompanied by the music). "Xitintoday" is definitely up your alley though; completely spaced out ------------- A shot of me as High Priestess of Gaia during our fall festival. Ceterum censeo principiis obsta |
Posted By: Bilek
Date Posted: September 19 2006 at 08:25
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It's a tough list, even through the ones I already know... I don't have Ash Ra's debut (apart from a short sample DL'ed from their site, which doesn't tell anything at all), also most of the Canterbury-RIO + some of the Italian albums in the list...
I don't think Pierrot Lunaire album would qualify as "dark" anyway... It sounds more of a "weird" to me! (not in the negative sense
)If Animals is dark, I wonder what you'd call Saucerful of Secrets or Ummaguma (I know, they are actually '60's albums!
) even The Wall sounds darker to me!------------- Listen to Turkish psych/prog; you won't regret: Baris Manco,Erkin Koray,Cem Karaca,Mogollar,3 Hürel,Selda,Edip Akbayram,Fikret Kizilok,Ersen (and Dadaslar) (but stick with the '70's, and 'early 80's!) |
Posted By: Bilek
Date Posted: September 19 2006 at 08:27
Nice one (though I'm not sure which version I have.... I have it in mp3, probably ripped from the newer CD version, but the sound is so '70's.... anway)
Speaking of which, reminds me of Brainticket's Clestial Ocean, which deals more or less with the same subject. Pretty dark too... I think that should also have been in the list... ------------- Listen to Turkish psych/prog; you won't regret: Baris Manco,Erkin Koray,Cem Karaca,Mogollar,3 Hürel,Selda,Edip Akbayram,Fikret Kizilok,Ersen (and Dadaslar) (but stick with the '70's, and 'early 80's!) |
Posted By: Bilek
Date Posted: September 19 2006 at 08:40
oh please... even children may understand that "same" comes to mean "self-titled" (possibly debut) album! of course, he shouldn't have written that way... Besides, you seem to have missed Faust: it's also "same"!!!
Now I'll ask you what the heck this means!!!
I shall agree here, indeed, with the exception to note that 666 and In Camera are really dark: listen to "Capture of the Beast" and the surrounding titles in 666, and "Gog Magog" in In Camera! what more do you find dark?!?!?
Also, you may be right about Pawn Hearts' "undarkness" only in terms of lyrics... Musically, I don't recall any darker VdGG album, really.
I don't know what to vote, either ------------- Listen to Turkish psych/prog; you won't regret: Baris Manco,Erkin Koray,Cem Karaca,Mogollar,3 Hürel,Selda,Edip Akbayram,Fikret Kizilok,Ersen (and Dadaslar) (but stick with the '70's, and 'early 80's!) |
Posted By: babydoctor
Date Posted: September 19 2006 at 10:26
So is _Xitintoday_ currently available on CD or not?! If so, I must have it!!! BTW, Brainticket's Celestial Ocean...good one. |
Posted By: babydoctor
Date Posted: September 19 2006 at 10:32
I concur. No contest!! |
Posted By: Bilek
Date Posted: September 19 2006 at 11:36
the answer is here:
http://www.progarchives.com/Progressive_rock_discography_BAND.asp?band_id=1744 - http://www.progarchives.com/Progressive_rock_discography_BAND.asp?band_id=1744
"Their only album was recorded inside the great pyramid and deals with ancient Egyptian mythology. It is rather meditative with the flute of Nik Turner being predominant; lots of synthesizers and spacey guitar and vocoder. The album gets rockier towards the end, but don't expect any crashing guitars like HAWKWIND. For any fan of the psychedelic branch of prog this is an absolute must album.
Unfortunately it does only exist in a vinyl version; a 1994 CD-issue of Nik Turner of the same name includes the same lyrics, but completely different music! Not a bad album, but fades in comparison to the vinyl." my concern was that since I had it on a Russian mp3 CD, I wasn't sure which version I really had... Russians are known to have converted vinyl-only albums to mp3 as well; I have a copy of No Earthly Connection (actually even two different copies: Music Reincarnate in a single piece in one, broken down in the other!!!) btw, another partly dark album eh
?What doubts me most is that the music in my mp3 CD is exactly as described above! btw, I'll be happy if someone informs me of what exactly do I have ... I can give the track durations and more detailed info if needed... (besides, what Russians put inside the CD as the album cover is completely different than that featured in PA... it has a picture of Sphynx with some UFO's flying around...)------------- Listen to Turkish psych/prog; you won't regret: Baris Manco,Erkin Koray,Cem Karaca,Mogollar,3 Hürel,Selda,Edip Akbayram,Fikret Kizilok,Ersen (and Dadaslar) (but stick with the '70's, and 'early 80's!) |
Posted By: BaldJean
Date Posted: September 19 2006 at 13:22
if you give me the track durations I can tell you whether you have the vinyl or the CD version ------------- A shot of me as High Priestess of Gaia during our fall festival. Ceterum censeo principiis obsta |
Posted By: Badabec
Date Posted: September 19 2006 at 13:27
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Gentle Giant's "Aquiring The Taste" is very, very dark in my opinion. And King Crimson's "Red" either. ------------- Mesmo a tristeza da gente era mais bela E além disso se via da janela Um cantinho de céu e o Redentor - Antônio Carlos Jobim, Toquinho & Vinícius de Moraes - Carta ao Tom 74 |
Posted By: calvin
Date Posted: September 19 2006 at 13:59
| I only listened to 5 of the albums listed here, so I won't vote: I'll just express my opinion by naming the darkest album of these 5: Pawn Hearts |
Posted By: Bilek
Date Posted: September 20 2006 at 02:15
 (I loaded it on computer in my previous work, damn it !) I still haven't loaded it in my mp3 player, either... I don't think it will be worth the try if it's the new version, eh ?
I'll get the CD or make the list at home this evening, and give you the list tomorrow! Just don't go anywhere  !!!------------- Listen to Turkish psych/prog; you won't regret: Baris Manco,Erkin Koray,Cem Karaca,Mogollar,3 Hürel,Selda,Edip Akbayram,Fikret Kizilok,Ersen (and Dadaslar) (but stick with the '70's, and 'early 80's!) |
Posted By: BaldJean
Date Posted: September 20 2006 at 06:09
here a list of the tracks and their lengths from the original vinyl: 1) The Awakening (Life on Venus) 4:35 2) Pyramid Spell 3:43 3) The Hall of Double Truth 3:00 4) Anubis 4:54 5) Thoth 3:52 6) Horus 5:37 7) Isis and Nephtys 6:05 8) Osiris 5:25 9) God Rock 6:49 ------------- A shot of me as High Priestess of Gaia during our fall festival. Ceterum censeo principiis obsta |
Posted By: Certif1ed
Date Posted: September 20 2006 at 08:53
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On that list, Comus : First Utterance.
In reality, Necronomicon : Tips Zum Selbstmord. ------------- The important thing is not to stop questioning. |
Posted By: Bilek
Date Posted: September 21 2006 at 04:35
This is my exact track duration listing, with less-than-minor, 1 second variations in 3 tracks. I am surprised how Russians (or whoever the hell it was who converted the vinyl into mp3...) did such a precise job.
 (I was pretty sure of the '70's sounds anyway... besides, the music is just as described in band info, and the track tags are credited to 1978)
btw, I was wrong about the cover. I confused it with Anubian Lights' 2nd album, which is also in my disc. It is still different than the one featured in PA discography anyway... hard to describe, but basicly it's a graphic of "Sphynx" words in various sizes, forming a shape of scorpion...
Thanks again, Jeanine... Is the CD version track durations much different? ------------- Listen to Turkish psych/prog; you won't regret: Baris Manco,Erkin Koray,Cem Karaca,Mogollar,3 Hürel,Selda,Edip Akbayram,Fikret Kizilok,Ersen (and Dadaslar) (but stick with the '70's, and 'early 80's!) |
Posted By: BaldJean
Date Posted: September 21 2006 at 04:44
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you can easily tell the CD-version from the vinyl version. if you hear sounds that seem to be knocks on a wall at the beginning of the first three tracks, you have the vinyl version. these are knocks on the walls of the Great Pyramid (from within; the album was recorded inside the Great Pyramid)
------------- A shot of me as High Priestess of Gaia during our fall festival. Ceterum censeo principiis obsta |
Posted By: Rocktopus
Date Posted: September 21 2006 at 04:47
Yes, its dark. Another dark and creepy krautaband/album is http://www.progarchives.com/Progressive_rock_discography_CD.asp?cd_id=9918 - German Oak . Highly reccomended. Read the tho reviwevs and you'll get the idea. All this talk about the Xitintoday album I haven't heard, makes me very curious. ------------- Over land and under ashes In the sunlight, see - it flashes Find a fly and eat his eye But don't believe in me Don't believe in me Don't believe in me |
Posted By: Bilek
Date Posted: September 21 2006 at 05:01
unfortunately I don't have the "other" version anyway
 ... strangely enough; my computer's soundcard is broken down here (at work) and though I loaded the CD here, I'll have to wait 'till I get home to check out your instruction ... Durations match, anyway... and I'll have to wait 'till another spring to get the CD version, if ever
those who are curious of the mp3'ed vinyl version; you'll have to track it down in Russia (a CD called "Space Rock", printed by a group which call their CD's "domashniaya kollektsiya" - "home collection"...) or, more easily, when you drop in at Istanbul; I'll give you a copy for free
I'm sorry for deviating this much from the original topic; but at least I help to keep the thread alive ------------- Listen to Turkish psych/prog; you won't regret: Baris Manco,Erkin Koray,Cem Karaca,Mogollar,3 Hürel,Selda,Edip Akbayram,Fikret Kizilok,Ersen (and Dadaslar) (but stick with the '70's, and 'early 80's!) |
Posted By: OpethGuitarist
Date Posted: September 21 2006 at 08:58
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I'd say Comus seeing as its discussing rape and murder and the likes ------------- back from the dead, i will begin posting reviews again and musing through the forums |
Posted By: BaldJean
Date Posted: September 21 2006 at 09:58
when it boils down to that, no album is darker than "Phallus Dei" by Amon Düül 2. the song "Dem Guten, Schönen, Wahren" ("For the Good, the True, the Beautiful") is about a child rapist and murderer. here the German lyrics and their translation: "Ihr ließet die Kindlein zu mir kommen! In weißen Kleidern mit Blumen im Haar hab' ich ihnen die Unschuld genommen, kann euch nicht sagen, wie schön es war!! "You let the children come to me! In white clothes, with flowers in the hair, I took away their virginity! Can't tell you how wonderful it was!" Dienet dem Schönen, dem Guten, dem Wahren! Peitschet ihn aus, er bebt schon danach! Lasst ihn die süße Qual erfahren; er sehnt sich so nach Schande und Schmach! Ja! Serve the Beautiful, the Good, the True! Whip him, he is already quivering for it! Let him experience the sweet torment; he so craves for disgrace and ignominy. Yes! Wir tanzten zusammen Ringelreih'n und sangen ein wunderschönes Lied. Die Kleinste fing an, nach der Mutter zu schrei'n. Ich durchbohrte sie sanft mit meinem Glied. We danced ring-around-the rosy together and sang a beautiful song. The smallest started crying for her mother. I gently penetrated her with my member. Kommet zuhauf und seht ihn euch an! Das Haupt kahlgeschoren und lächelt noch! Frisch ans Werk, 's ist gleich getan. Hängt ihn auf, den geilen Moloch! Ja! Get thee all here and behold him! His head shaved bald and still he smiles! Let's get to work, 'tis easily done! Hang him, the lusty moloch! Yes! Now that's what I call "dark". ------------- A shot of me as High Priestess of Gaia during our fall festival. Ceterum censeo principiis obsta |
Posted By: NecroManiac
Date Posted: September 21 2006 at 10:04
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...and disgusting.
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What's yer faovrite album? =^_^= |
Posted By: BaldJean
Date Posted: September 21 2006 at 10:20
I certainly don't deny that ------------- A shot of me as High Priestess of Gaia during our fall festival. Ceterum censeo principiis obsta |
Posted By: WickerRocker
Date Posted: September 21 2006 at 10:58
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xxx ------------- 'You can`t kill, what`s stronger than death': Zakk Wylde |
Posted By: Bilek
Date Posted: September 21 2006 at 11:24
your posts evoke several feelings:
- I would've thanked for the lyrics; for I love that album and wanted to sing; but as I learn the meaning beneath them; I'm not so sure of that anymore
(actually I already knew what "Phallus Dei" actually means... but I never thought they would take it this far!)- I speak a little German, and I wanted to improve it; but after this I'm not sure of that, either! after all, I listen to the songs without paying attention to their meanings, and enjoy them; but when I sense their contrast to my beliefs, I can't enjoy them at all!!! The same happened when I discovered what it was about VdGG's White Hammer
... what can I do, I'm a conservative christian! ("conservative" in this sense doesn't mean "catholic" or "traditionalist"... I'm neither!)all in all, you're doing a good job here! keep on! ------------- Listen to Turkish psych/prog; you won't regret: Baris Manco,Erkin Koray,Cem Karaca,Mogollar,3 Hürel,Selda,Edip Akbayram,Fikret Kizilok,Ersen (and Dadaslar) (but stick with the '70's, and 'early 80's!) |
Posted By: Pnoom!
Date Posted: October 12 2006 at 17:53
| Pink Floyd - The Wall |
Posted By: MANTICORE
Date Posted: October 12 2006 at 20:54
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Peter Hammil - In camera is a great sad album Jacula - Tardo pede in magiam Versus great obscure avantgarde.! -------------  |
Posted By: Viajero Astral
Date Posted: October 12 2006 at 22:09
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RED
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Posted By: DarioIndjic
Date Posted: October 13 2006 at 00:33
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Museo Rosenbach's Zarathustra is not on the list but i think its one of the darkest albums i ever heard,the atmosphere is not dark like in Universe Zero or like VDG but its very emotional and mellincolic,also Pulsar's Strands Of The Future is very dark and mystic. ------------- Ars longa , vita brevis |
Posted By: Atavachron
Date Posted: October 13 2006 at 00:39
| '1313', or maybe it's just the Dore engraving on the inside cover. |
Posted By: Rocktopus
Date Posted: October 13 2006 at 06:59
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The last month I've heard so much dark Zeuhl & similar stuff that I wish I'd waited till now with making this poll.
------------- Over land and under ashes In the sunlight, see - it flashes Find a fly and eat his eye But don't believe in me Don't believe in me Don't believe in me |