It's happened again
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Topic: It's happened again
Posted By: video vertigo
Subject: It's happened again
Date Posted: September 14 2006 at 03:01
So Selling England by the Pound is back on top, how long do you think this will last?
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Posted By: The Whistler
Date Posted: September 14 2006 at 03:06
That really depends on what a CTTE is. You internet folks are a nice enough lot, but ya abbreviate too damn much...
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Posted By: dAJaro
Date Posted: September 14 2006 at 03:24
it wont last long. some yes fanatics will just dish out some 1-2 star ratings to drop the rating of selling england.. it happens all the time something unconventional enters a new high in the top 100 ranking of this site (eg scenes from a memory, for the love of art... and generally most new albums that gain some recognition for being extraordinary good).
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Posted By: R o V e R
Date Posted: September 14 2006 at 03:24
Posted By: The Whistler
Date Posted: September 14 2006 at 03:26
Wait, you mean crazed die-hards can tip the scales of top albums? Oh yes...Broadsword's moving to number one...bwa haha!
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Posted By: Easy Livin
Date Posted: September 14 2006 at 03:30
The Whistler wrote:
That really depends on what a CTTE is. You internet folks are a nice enough lot, but ya abbreviate too damn much... |
 CTTE= Close to the Edge by Yes.
Close to the edge and Selling England by the pound tend to fight for the top spot in our chart on the home page. 
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Posted By: The Whistler
Date Posted: September 14 2006 at 03:32
Well, that's just because my diabolical plan hasn't been enacted yet...whatever that is.
So, those are the best, eh? Excellent; they're both on my "to listen to" list.
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Posted By: toolis
Date Posted: September 14 2006 at 03:49
you should have a "couldn't care less..." choice, up there, as well
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Posted By: Dragon Phoenix
Date Posted: September 14 2006 at 04:04
toolis wrote:
you should have a "couldn't care less..." choice, up there, as well |

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Posted By: Ricochet
Date Posted: September 14 2006 at 04:22
aren't there too many threads of discussion over this thing (yes, I realize the question is different)? isn't there too much attention give this change?
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Posted By: Raff
Date Posted: September 14 2006 at 04:35
Ricochet wrote:
aren't there too many threads of discussion over this thing (yes, I realize the question is different)? isn't there too much attention give this change?
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Rico, you're perfectly right, and I think one of those two threads is superfluous. So, watch out for the now-notorious Threadminatrix on the prowl again!
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Posted By: Mandrakeroot
Date Posted: September 14 2006 at 05:25
For me all "250 Top Album" are potentials #1!!!
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Posted By: Darshan
Date Posted: September 14 2006 at 06:00
Not very long if their is any justice in this world
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Posted By: eduardossc
Date Posted: September 14 2006 at 06:54
I choose 2-3 days. But it really depends on YES hardcore fans giving bad ratings to Selling england and some 10 -5- stars to "Close" with the same meaningless texts full of words like "Great", "Piece of art", "superb". As it just happened before. Lately they seem to have been very busy getting the awful and cacophonic, ultra repetitive Relayer up in the chart and may have forgotten to keep Close to the edge on top.
That reminds me of the classic soccer team with high support from the media in every league (Manchester, Real Madrid, Milan, Juve, Boca Juniors). Who may be playing crap, but still the media keep calling them the favourite match after match.
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Posted By: MattiR
Date Posted: September 14 2006 at 06:59
Posted By: toolis
Date Posted: September 14 2006 at 07:01
That reminds me of the classic soccer team with high support from the media in every league (Manchester, Real Madrid, Milan, Juve, Boca Juniors). Who may be playing crap, but still the media keep calling them the favourite match after match.
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true, but CTTE plays excellent soccer every Sunday...
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Posted By: Norbert
Date Posted: September 14 2006 at 07:46
SEBTP should not be No1.
It belongs to the top 30 at best IMHO.
Foxtrot would deserve to be #1, although I don't think that these lists are very important.
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Posted By: OpethGuitarist
Date Posted: September 14 2006 at 08:53
To be honest, none of the albums in the top 10 should be number one.
Btw I have never understood what everyone sees in Genesis.
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Posted By: Zargus
Date Posted: September 14 2006 at 09:07
Does anyone realy cares? I think Tubular Bells shuld be #1 but its not even in the top 100! that if anything is scandal! number 1 or 2 who gives a crap?
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Posted By: OpethGuitarist
Date Posted: September 14 2006 at 09:10
Someone must care, otherwise there wouldnt be polls about it
I think its important as visitors(not members) coming to the site will see what we hold as most cherished.
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Posted By: disastercasper
Date Posted: September 14 2006 at 10:16
CTTE is a way better # 1 than SEBTP. i love both of 'em, but CTTE really has something magical for me... I give it 4 days tops.
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Posted By: billbuckner
Date Posted: September 14 2006 at 11:15
To be honest, Thick As A Brick would be my choice for #1. CTTE and SEBTP can be nicely replaced by Relayer and Foxtrot.
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Posted By: el böthy
Date Posted: September 14 2006 at 14:37
How is this possibly? Not a week ago Selling England was number 4#... 
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Posted By: blbx93
Date Posted: September 14 2006 at 14:42
I have no idea how long it will take, but I surely don't want to see Genesis as number one. I prefer Fragile and the Yes Album to CTTE, but I would like to see it back on top.
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Posted By: Pulse
Date Posted: September 14 2006 at 16:02
I say screw Selling England by the Pound, put Thick as a Brick as #1!
To really answer the question, I think it'll be up there for about a week until all the Yes fans get their acts together and start giving CTTE a bunch of five star reviews.
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Posted By: Philéas
Date Posted: September 14 2006 at 16:04
It's good to see a change, though I don't think CttE will be absent for long.
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Posted By: richardh
Date Posted: September 14 2006 at 16:15
Foxtrot is better
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Posted By: Melomaniac
Date Posted: September 14 2006 at 16:18
The Lamb is better than Foxtrot and Selling England...
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Posted By: Pulse
Date Posted: September 14 2006 at 16:51
richardh wrote:
Foxtrot is better |
I couldn't agree more. I'd actually like to have Foxtrot as the number one prog album. Supper's Ready, along with Tarulus, is one of the greatest epics ever made and a perfect example of what prog is.
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Posted By: micky
Date Posted: September 14 2006 at 18:12
video vertigo wrote:
So Selling England by the
Pound is back on top, how long do you think this will last? |
man only as long as it takes someone to monkey around with the reviews/ratings because people make such a deal out of it ...
my vote would be for......who knows...don't care hahha Remember
when Thick as a Brick went on top earlier this year and was promptly
knocked down by reviews that came out nowhere...
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Posted By: Liquid Len
Date Posted: September 14 2006 at 18:16
Hopefully Selling England will be there forever, it certainly deserves to be.
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Posted By: xtopher
Date Posted: September 14 2006 at 18:28
Go SEbtP! It won't last more than a day, but go SEbtP!
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Posted By: moreitsythanyou
Date Posted: September 14 2006 at 22:38
Foxtrot>SEbtP...
CTTE>Foxtrot
Kid A>all 
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Posted By: Ivan_Melgar_M
Date Posted: September 14 2006 at 22:40
The simplest album is WHO CARES?
It won't be a masterpiece because t's N° 1 or a piece of crap because some fans of CTTE start adding 1, 2 or 3 stars ratings (As always happens).
It's exactly the same great album in N° 1 or 10 but still I like Foxtrot, Nursery Cryme, Trespass and The Lamb more.
Let's check something as an experiment now that's still N° 1:
SEBTP (452 entries)
Essential: a masterpiece of progressive music (75%)
Excellent addition to any prog music collection (13%)
Good, but non-essential (6%)
Collectors/fans only (2%)
Poor. Only for completionists (3%)
CTTE (515 Entries):
Essential: a masterpiece of progressive music (75%)
Excellent addition to any prog music collection (12%)
Good, but non-essential (6%)
Collectors/fans only (3%)
Poor. Only for completionists (4%)
Will check it again as soon as it leaves N° 1 spot, all the number of entries and percentage, because wee need many ratings to ove the percentage.
Iván
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Posted By: The Whistler
Date Posted: September 15 2006 at 02:23
RUPI'S DANCE FOR NUMBER 1!!!!!!!!!!
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Posted By: billbuckner
Date Posted: September 15 2006 at 22:48
CTTE to #3! Who woulda thunk it!
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Posted By: bhikkhu
Date Posted: September 15 2006 at 22:57
The Whistler wrote:
That really depends on what a CTTE is. You internet folks are a nice enough lot, but ya abbreviate too damn much... |
You'll get used to it. I was also confused at first. There are a lot of albums, and bands, that are frequently referred to. It's just easier to abbreviate.
As far as the ratings, I don't care. I think "Foxtrot" is better than "Selling England by the Pound," but it doesn't bother me that it is rated lower. I know its place in my collection.
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Posted By: one hand clap
Date Posted: September 17 2006 at 23:23
how bout a "neither deserve to be #1" choice? Foxtrot and The Lamb Lies Down On Broadway are both better albums than Selling England By The Pound. Relayer and Fragile are better albums than Close to the Edge. And In The Court Of The Crimson King--An Observation By King Crimson (thats right I use it's full title) is a better album than all I've mentioned.
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Posted By: bruin69
Date Posted: September 19 2006 at 16:11
CttE is down to No. 4 now... I think it'll continue to drop for another couple of days, and will take more than a week to get back up. It's all nonsense anyway, but if I had my druthers I'd have Relayer in the No. 1 spot 
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Posted By: Peter
Date Posted: September 19 2006 at 21:32
It's laughable the way so many people in this thread offer OPINIONS about albums as if they were indisputable facts, and not matters of taste.
And I don't give a rat's ass which album is in the number one spot, or for how long. (Little kids manipulate those ratings, anyway.) I love many great prog albums equally well, and their "positions" relative to each other here will never change that. I don't have to choose a "best."
I just don't understand this obsession with numbers, etc, re something as emotional, ethereal and individual as music. It's not math, or your stock portfolio, folks! 
Really -- stop acting like such silly progholes. 
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Posted By: The Wizard
Date Posted: September 19 2006 at 21:34
Peter Rideout wrote:
It's laughable the way so many people in this thread offer OPINIONS about albums as if they were indisputable facts, and not matters of taste.
And I don't give a rat's ass which album is in the number one spot, or for how long. (Little kids manipulate those ratings, anyway.) I love many great prog albums equally well, and their "positions" relative to each other here will never change that. I don't have to choose a "best."
I just don't understand this obsession with numbers, etc, re something as emotional, ethereal and individual as music. It's not math, or your stock portfolio, folks! 
Really -- stop acting like such silly progholes.  |
The only thing that matters is that you like the album, not all this silly ratings BS.
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