Joe Satriani... not here?
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Topic: Joe Satriani... not here?
Posted By: Articuno1
Subject: Joe Satriani... not here?
Date Posted: August 22 2006 at 21:36
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This man is a genius, a whiz with guitar, and composer of some freakin awesome prog guitar solos. Yet when I input his name, attempting to review one of his albums, his protege Steve Vai comes up. Surely he deserves a seperate entrance in our pantheon of prog rock gods? ------------- Many Bothans died to bring you this information. |
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Posted By: stonebeard
Date Posted: August 22 2006 at 21:39
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He would if he played prog music, but he doesn't. He plays shred. Vai is only in prog related, and deserves for multiple reasons to be on this site more that Satch. ------------- http://soundcloud.com/drewagler" rel="nofollow - My soundcloud. Please give feedback if you want! |
Posted By: Arrrghus
Date Posted: August 22 2006 at 21:39
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He's awesome, I've seen him live (w/ the Wizard), but no, he's not prog. Not all good music is prog. ------------- 
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Posted By: Arrrghus
Date Posted: August 22 2006 at 21:40
What're you talking about? Satch doesn't shred very much. He is very melodic and tasteful. -------------
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stonebeard wrote:Posted By: stonebeard
Date Posted: August 22 2006 at 21:43
I consider the G3 crowd to be under the "Shred" banner. Satch does shred, but not like Yngwie. ------------- http://soundcloud.com/drewagler" rel="nofollow - My soundcloud. Please give feedback if you want! |
Posted By: memowakeman
Date Posted: August 22 2006 at 22:26
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Mmm... he could be a God of guitar, a genius whatever you name him... and i particularly dont like his music, but anyway... i dont consider Joe Satriani as a clear addition to progarchives, not prog music for me here... ------------- Follow me on twitter @memowakeman |
Posted By: Equality 7-2521
Date Posted: August 23 2006 at 01:51
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It's bad enough Vai is in, and he clearly is more of a suitable candidate than Satch. ------------- "One had to be a Newton to notice that the moon is falling, when everyone sees that it doesn't fall. " |
Posted By: Fitzcarraldo
Date Posted: August 23 2006 at 21:40
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An apparent misunderstanding: the "omissions" in this forum's title is not meant to refer to artists not currently listed in ProgArchives, but rather to missing information under existing entries. If members want to suggest an artist for inclusion, that should be done in the "Suggest new bands /artists" forum. Thanks. Can an Admin please move this thread to the appropriate forum? ------------- http://www.progarchives.com/Collaborators.asp?id=326" rel="nofollow - Read reviews by Fitzcarraldo |
Posted By: WaywardSon
Date Posted: August 24 2006 at 14:05
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Some of his albums are quite prog-related come to think of it, his "Engines of Creation" and "Joe Satriani" (the one with the red cover)
Just found out he is going to play right here (in my city) on the 26th of October, a G3 jam with Eric Johnson and John Petrucci!!
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Posted By: Philéas
Date Posted: August 24 2006 at 15:51
| Great guitarist, but not Prog. Vai is proggier, but I still don't see how he fits here. |
Posted By: MikeEnRegalia
Date Posted: August 24 2006 at 17:54
Steve Vai is not his "protege". If anything Vai is a scholar of Zappa. And prog ... well, neither of them are that, but Vai is much more progressive than Satriani:
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Posted By: The Wizard
Date Posted: August 24 2006 at 17:57
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I'm a big Satch fan and have seen him in concert with Erik Johnson. Not prog, but pretty awesome! -------------  
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Posted By: JJLehto
Date Posted: August 25 2006 at 23:50
| An amazing guitarist, but I don't really see any way how he fits under prog. He's a shredder (just in a different way). |
Posted By: progressive
Date Posted: August 27 2006 at 15:18
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it's LITTLE bit progressive. It must be, how else could he be genious. Well, I don't think he as a genious, but I like his music even very much sometimes. Sometimes it's so not-prog or some else way so stupid that I almost vomit. To be in PA, there ought to be new catergory and new relative style description system. Well, new systems ------------- 
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Posted By: salmacis
Date Posted: August 27 2006 at 15:19
| Outside of Steve Vai's 'Passion and Warfare' and Satriani himself's 'Surfing With The Alien' (I do however own a few Yngwie Malmsteen albums- one of the few of his type I can stomach), the so called 'shred' genre just does little for me. I can see the merits of Vai being here given his links to Zappa and the obvious influence Zappa had on Vai's own material, but no to Satriani. The music isn't all that complex in structure and is, really, fairly standard rock with catchy melodies played on guitar instead of vocals. So a no from me, but I wondered how long it would be before someone would propose Satriani... |
Posted By: Drew
Date Posted: August 27 2006 at 15:25
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I LOVE Joe- but I don't think he should be here- either should Vai. ------------- |
Posted By: Raff
Date Posted: August 27 2006 at 15:27
James, have you seen the thread I opened a few days ago about "Great music equals Prog"? Not to promote myself (though I'll always do that gladly, I have to admit...  ), but I was feeling sort of fed up with people suggesting their favourite artists for inclusion on the basis that, if the music is good, then it must necessarily be prog. |
Posted By: stonebeard
Date Posted: August 27 2006 at 15:30
If you want to know (probably not), I asked why Satch wasn't here over 6 months ago (look for the thread), but I have obviously found my way since then.  ------------- http://soundcloud.com/drewagler" rel="nofollow - My soundcloud. Please give feedback if you want! |
Posted By: WaywardSon
Date Posted: August 27 2006 at 20:55
| His album "Engines of Creation" is Prog. |
Posted By: xtopher
Date Posted: September 02 2006 at 18:03
Agreed. And if you're as familiar as I am with his discography, you know just how unconventional his approach is to the craft of songwriting. He just... never ceases to suprise me with his innovation. Yet he really doesn't strike the chords necessary to be considered "prog"—arbitrary though they may be. He doesn't typically have songs longer than 6 minutes. He mostly sticks to basic song structure (but many prog songs really do too). BUT his style is so dynamic and enigmatic; his style runs the gamut from hard rock and metal (as in "The Extremist" or "New Last Jam") to astro-rock (as in "With Jupiter in Mind" and "Time") to beutiful ambient ballads (as in "Rubina" and "Is There Love in Space?") to pseudo-techno (as in "Devil's Slide" and "The Power Cosmic 2000"), and will even throw in dancing jazz guitar (as in "Satch Boogie" and the ingenious and energetic close to "Crystal Planet") and unconventional, often clashing scales and modes ("Not of this Earth", "The Enigmatic" and "The Eight Steps"). It's just sad that some "proggy" attributes get overlooked in favor of all his "shredding." Satch can shred, and does so with aplomb, but more often he uses his guitar to articulate what none can do with their voice. ------------- 
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Posted By: WaywardSon
Date Posted: September 02 2006 at 20:09
Great post Xtopher!
My favorite Satch album is "The Extremist" and with a song like "Friends" he doesn´t even need lyrics, the guitar does the talking!
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Posted By: chopper
Date Posted: September 14 2006 at 15:36
| He's on the list of bands to be added. |
Posted By: WaywardSon
Date Posted: November 09 2006 at 08:35
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^^^^
Are you saying he has been accepted at last or still under discussion?
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Posted By: S Lang
Date Posted: November 17 2006 at 05:07
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I'd have no problem with Satriani included, I saw him live with Stuart Hamm, performing his pyrotechnics in a most convincing manner.
Previously I didn't believe it was possible without overdubs, etc. I was wrong - happily.
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