Mars Volta Fans Discussion
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Topic: Mars Volta Fans Discussion
Posted By: Tiresias
Subject: Mars Volta Fans Discussion
Date Posted: August 19 2006 at 20:57
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Yeah, so I've been a fan since one of my friends mentioned them. I looked 'em up on PA and have since been in love with them.
Where do you see the band going in the future? Does anyone know or care to speculate on their future? Does anyone care to comment on their live performance, or live recordings, as I want to find decent TMV shows, but the Comatorium only offers FLAC, and I am stupid?
Anyway, yeah discuss all things TMV here. (calling King Volta) ------------- Wh'ghal ng'fth mglw'y Ry'leh, Cthulhu fhtagn... 
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Posted By: Tiresias
Date Posted: August 19 2006 at 21:30
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whooo!
first post. ------------- Wh'ghal ng'fth mglw'y Ry'leh, Cthulhu fhtagn...
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Posted By: Penumbra
Date Posted: August 19 2006 at 21:43
I have heard only "Cassandra Gemini" and "Tetragrammaton". I am not an immense fan of their powerful Prog, but I still respect their music and what they're doing. It's very innovative and well.. fun! 
------------- The Holy Trinity of Symphonic Progressive Rock 
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Posted By: stonebeard
Date Posted: August 19 2006 at 21:49
 Personally, I think they should cut down on the random noise a bit. De-loused is excellent, but they need a lot more soundscape breaks with good chord shifts. ------------- http://soundcloud.com/drewagler" rel="nofollow - My soundcloud. Please give feedback if you want! |
Posted By: The Green Tank
Date Posted: August 19 2006 at 22:04
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I love their first 2 albums. Even the random noise doesn't bother me as much as it seems to bother other people. I can't wait for the new album. I'll be playing that thing non-stop.
When I heard they were previewing "Viscera Eyes" on their website, I thought to myself, "I'll listen to it only once!" But, I listened to it over 20 times because it's so damn good. ------------- 
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Posted By: cuncuna
Date Posted: August 19 2006 at 22:16
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I just hope they keep growing atistically. The new album has some advance regarding the previous, wich also is a bit ahead of the previous, etc. I'm sure they will, they are very independent. I'll never forget the first time I saw something related to them. It was a TV chanel, Sony, I think, that had somekind of TV briefing about "A very strange, but original band". A girl, aparently a model, was explaining the "agressive fusion of cuban roots, electronic music and progressive rock". My thoughts at the moment: "That's... weird". After that, they started with a re-run of "Mad About You", and my world ended... ------------- ¡Beware of the Bee! |
Posted By: 46and2
Date Posted: August 19 2006 at 23:19
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i have heard amputechture and so far i have loved it cant wait till its released ------------- 
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Posted By: chamberry
Date Posted: August 19 2006 at 23:34
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I like The Mars Volta alot. From the very trippy Deloused in the comatorium to the extremly pompous Frances the mute. I don't have problem with the noise really and I'm eagerly waiting for their new album wich I heard alot of good things about it. I'm also not so bummed out about Jon Theodore leaving the band (although being one of the leading forces in their sound). I see it as an evolution of some sorts since their always reinventing themselves, I think that now without him things will be more different.
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Posted By: Tiresias
Date Posted: August 20 2006 at 00:50
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Yeah, everybody in my band was bummed when Jon left TMV.
Oh, and there is hardly any ambient noise on Amputechture. It's awesome.
------------- Wh'ghal ng'fth mglw'y Ry'leh, Cthulhu fhtagn...
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Posted By: cuncuna
Date Posted: August 20 2006 at 00:54
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¡So many people complaining about those noises!... I like abstraction very much, and those used in their previous albums are very intentionated ones, with nice sound textures to enjoy. They are in fact what transforms The Mars Volta albums in complete sound experiences, instead of leaving them in the "just songs album" cathegory. Those noises are very well structurated and there are days in wich I enjoy them more than the actual songs. ------------- ¡Beware of the Bee! |
Posted By: chamberry
Date Posted: August 20 2006 at 01:09
 It's like you've heard the oposite of what I said.-------------
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Tiresias wrote:Posted By: Harry Hood
Date Posted: August 20 2006 at 07:56
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The new drummer was their original choice, and is a veteran of a few math rock bands.
I'm not a fan of math rock, but math rock drummers are usually pretty sick. ------------- 
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Posted By: Kleynan
Date Posted: August 20 2006 at 08:14
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TMV have just started their career, and they've got a long career in front of them (hopefully). They can do great things in my opinion, and their albums just seem to get better each time. ------------- 
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Posted By: sleeper
Date Posted: August 20 2006 at 10:39
Jon Theodore left TMV  , I didnt hear that. Thats a damn shame as he's one of the best drummers I've ever heard. Does anyone know if he lrft before or after the recording of Amputechture (sp?)?------------- Spending more than I should on Prog since 2005 
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Posted By: The Wizard
Date Posted: August 20 2006 at 10:45
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I simply can't wait for Ampetecture, and it's tough for me to resist downloading it. -------------  
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Posted By: Tiresias
Date Posted: August 20 2006 at 13:00
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He left after recording Amputechture. Blakc Flemming is in for the tour, atm. ------------- Wh'ghal ng'fth mglw'y Ry'leh, Cthulhu fhtagn...
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Posted By: Gravity Eyelids
Date Posted: August 20 2006 at 13:01
I had to stop myself from downloading it a couple of times also. I killed 10,000 days that way. ------------- Into this wild Abyss the fiend Stood on the brink of Hell and looked a while, Pondering his Voyage. |
Posted By: CaincelaOreinim
Date Posted: August 20 2006 at 13:34
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Pretty big fan of these guys; have been since their inception... In the studio (which, get this, is being built in Brooklyn NY by my friend's brother who is the superintendant of their building come the end of this September) I'm not sure where they'll be going in the future but I'd like to see a lot more brass work, less sound effects which they've thankfully cut in Amputechture, and perhaps more ambient synths and less noodly guitar freak-outs. I would also like to see the band improve as musicians and become an almost fusion-rock outfit. Live on the other hand, I'd like to see a bit, but not too much restraint in the players, esp. in regard to Omar and Cedric. They seem to over-exert themselves a bit much, and I feel least, should learn when to contribute and when not to. Because of this they also tend to give the songs a rather rushed feel rather than opening them up to breathe a la what Yes did on their last disgrace of a tour. Probably one of the most exciting live bands though, sloppy here and there, but still a band that at least takes the time to not play straight and reproduce their albums. The tracks on the studio are really just takes in my mind, and I think all music driven bands should kind of have that; the spontaneity and the sense of making things new when taking it to a live context...it's tough and certainly may have its faults as well but that's just like anything else in life. |
Posted By: Moatilliatta
Date Posted: August 20 2006 at 15:17
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I know they've only released two full lengths, but they are already my favorite band. I'm so pumped for Amputechture. That's all I have to say for now. |
Posted By: stonebeard
Date Posted: August 20 2006 at 15:21
That's a humongously bad thing IMO!
  I want less random squeaky/glitchy noises and more Porcupine Tree/Floyd/Schulze-esque ambience. ------------- http://soundcloud.com/drewagler" rel="nofollow - My soundcloud. Please give feedback if you want! |
Posted By: mickstafa
Date Posted: August 21 2006 at 18:00
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I have Deloused and Frances.... I'm sorry that while I do like moments
of these albums, I can't really appreciate them. I think its
mostly the static cheap TV antenna noise that plagues the albums
(especially Frances). When I'm listening to the random noodling of CB radio on Frances, I can't help but think that I should be spending my time with a band that actually plays melodies and MUSIC. I mean, lots of bands make great soundscapes by making interesting sounds out of their instruments/recordings. I just don't "get" it here. I may give this band one more shot; I really do want to like them. I heard the newer album has more prog elements and less playing with a sound effects CD. Is this true? |
Posted By: Moatilliatta
Date Posted: August 21 2006 at 18:21
| ^Well, most of their material is music. And it is fantastic. The noise is something you may have to just get used to. |
Posted By: el böthy
Date Posted: August 21 2006 at 18:41
If you want Porcupine like music listen to Porcupine Tree... I dont know why everybody sayd I love the Mars Volta, yet at the same time wish them to change...its meshuganah... ------------- "You want me to play what, Robert?" 
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Posted By: stonebeard
Date Posted: August 21 2006 at 19:25
But PT don't have the frantic pace that TMV do. A mix of spacy and frantic is different and would be much better than what I think the sample on their Myspace is. It's good, but they could be so much better. ------------- http://soundcloud.com/drewagler" rel="nofollow - My soundcloud. Please give feedback if you want! |
Posted By: Kleynan
Date Posted: August 21 2006 at 20:11
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TMV are a very prententious group, and they will give us many surprises in the years to come. I see many twists ahead, and that's just how I like my bands. -------------
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Posted By: captainbeyond
Date Posted: August 21 2006 at 22:33
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The noises and "soundscapes" would not be as big of a problem if the writing were stronger. Unfortunately, on Frances, I didn't think the riffs or dynamics were there. As a result, the noises seemed to acknowledge--and certainly highlighted--the possibility that the band didn't have as much confidence in their material as they did on their watershed debut.
This suspicion holds up in their live shows. I've seen Mars Volta three times: once in a 400 person space, once in an 800 person space and once in a 2500 person space. The maddening truth remains: they don't know how to jam. Their interaction, if it can be called that, is barely existent. Basically, no one is really listening to each other in any meaningful way. There is a lot of room for development here.
With all of that being said, Mars Volta are possibly the most exciting band to arise in the new millenium. I had not heard a band truly and clearly reinvent prog rock in such a striking way since OK Computer, if not earlier. They hold a lot of promise and a lot of potential that was not met on Frances. However, their ambitions and pretensions should fuel the fire of their growth into the future. The question is whether hubris will affirm their worst tendencies or whether honest self-criticism will force them to truly grow artistically, in their compositional and improvisatory skills.
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Posted By: The Miracle
Date Posted: August 22 2006 at 00:04
Well, I enjoy both their avant and their ambient sides. Both of their albums are masterpieces and they're the best band since the 70's. FTM is in my top 3 albume ever. In other words, I'm a hopeless fanboy Been on a bike ride recently and among all the cars blasting rap, I heard someone playing Take A Veil... needless to say, that warmed my heart ------------- http://www.last.fm/user/ocellatedgod" rel="nofollow - last.fm |
Posted By: Cygnus X-2
Date Posted: August 22 2006 at 00:08
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I've got a date with them this Thursday along with the Red Hot Chili Peppers, and so I'm hoping they're as good live as everyone cracks them to be.
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Posted By: GoldenSpiral
Date Posted: August 22 2006 at 00:25
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The official Dr. Thorpe review of Amputechture: http://www.somethingawful.com/index.php?a=4023 - http://www.somethingawful.com/index.php?a=4023 ------------- http://www.myspace.com/altaic" rel="nofollow - http://www.myspace.com/altaic ALTAIC "Oceans Down You'll Lie" coming soon |
Posted By: The Miracle
Date Posted: August 22 2006 at 00:26
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That guy needs to die. ------------- http://www.last.fm/user/ocellatedgod" rel="nofollow - last.fm |
Posted By: sleeper
Date Posted: August 22 2006 at 08:26
You have no idea how jealous I am ------------- Spending more than I should on Prog since 2005
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Posted By: Kleynan
Date Posted: August 22 2006 at 09:28
"But wow, I’m actually kind of impressed around six and a half minutes in, because I have never, ever heard a guitar made to sound so much like a cat being run through the dryer. And amid some free-jazz squawking, the track mercifully ceases."  -------------
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Posted By: Raff
Date Posted: August 22 2006 at 11:06
| I already knew TMV when I joined PA, and had already got "Frances the Mute" on the strength of the five-star review I'd read on Classic Rock Magazine. I liked the album immediately, though I realised it wasn't easy listening by any means. Then, a few months later, I got "De-loused...", and I immediately realised that it was undoubtedly the better effort. About a month ago I gave it five stars in my review, which I think it highly deserves - one of the best debut albums ever, IMHO. TMV have a lot of promise in them, so I can't wait to get "Amputechture" - I heard "Viscera Eyes" on the web and it rocked! However, I can also understand they may not be to everyone's taste. |
Posted By: DeepPhreeze
Date Posted: August 22 2006 at 11:31
Dead on. This accounts for 90% of my frustration with the band. DeLoused was so amazing --- I don't think even PT has the atmosphere DeLoused had. A certain ghostly, ethereal feel to it... like it was hollow and their music was filling the void. I do think they're going in a shallow direction now... |
Posted By: WaywardSon
Date Posted: August 22 2006 at 12:44
| This band left me confused and disorientated, maybe it takes a few listenings to really get the feel of them. |
Posted By: The Miracle
Date Posted: August 22 2006 at 13:58
^Definitely takes a few listens to get used to the sound and let the music grow on you. When I first got deloused my first thought was "wtf, this sucks " but wit a couple more listens it grew on me and now I think it's a masterpiece.------------- http://www.last.fm/user/ocellatedgod" rel="nofollow - last.fm |
Posted By: Dalezilla
Date Posted: August 23 2006 at 11:20
| I have Deloused and like it a lot. Just got FTM about a week ago and this is awesome. Not sure which one is better yet. Will get Amputechture when it come out. |
Posted By: Cygnus X-2
Date Posted: August 25 2006 at 03:02
 They were pretty cool live (everything I expected them to be actually), they had a great energy and their wicked experimentation and improvisational skills really came to the foray (to the point where the only song I truly recognized was The Widow). They played about 5 or 6 songs in the total hour that they played.  -------------
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