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Topic: New RIO festival in France for 2007
Posted By: Sean Trane
Subject: New RIO festival in France for 2007
Date Posted: August 19 2006 at 07:04
Roger Trigaux(of Present fame)  is organizing for next summer a RIO festival.
 
http://www.rocktime.org/rio/ - http://www.rocktime.org/rio/
 
Sounds like the perfect place for yet another PA meeting!!!
 
 
 


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Posted By: Syzygy
Date Posted: August 20 2006 at 08:15
Sounds good to me! It's pretty much my dream line up, so I'll definitely book the time off and get tickets asap.

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Robert Wyatt, Gloria Gloom




Posted By: Yukorin
Date Posted: August 20 2006 at 21:27




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Posted By: avestin
Date Posted: August 20 2006 at 21:35
Wow, Present, Guapo, Magma, Nebelnest, Faust, Peter Blegvad, Zao... This will be one excellent show, I think.
The problem is that it is too far away for me to tell if I can go.
Will know more as 2007 approaches.
 
 
 
 


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Posted By: A Guy
Date Posted: August 25 2006 at 16:30
I seriously doubt I can get to France. Damn.

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Posted By: Unbeliever
Date Posted: August 28 2006 at 07:49
Any-one heading there from Australia I could catch a lift with? Cry

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Posted By: goose
Date Posted: August 28 2006 at 13:46
Awesome! It's even in my easter break from university!


Posted By: Sean Trane
Date Posted: October 09 2006 at 08:15
^BUMP!!!
 
Tickets soon on sale I gather!!


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prefer the sink to the gutter
keep our sand-castle virtues
content to be a doer
as well as a thinker,
prefer lifting our pen
rather than un-sheath our sword


Posted By: Sean Trane
Date Posted: October 10 2006 at 10:03
Message and anwer from Dave Kerman (drmmer of Present) to Roger Trigaux 5present master and master of ceremony in Carmaux, next spring):
 
I wrote to both Michel and Roger, explaining that
some people from N. America were interested in making
the trip. I asked how these people could be assured
tickets.

Their reply was:

Hello Dave ! (Dave Hello)
Tickets will be on line in a few days, they will can buy it directly through the RIO site (in english). I send your mail to Roger for more security.
Roger, can you answer to Dave ?
Price is 60 euros + location tax (between 2 and 4 euros more) for three days.
Welcome in Carmaux.
Michel


I wrote back, requesting (in more certain terms) that
25-30 tickets be reserved for N. Americans. I'll post
their reply as soon as any word comes in. Dave




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prefer the sink to the gutter
keep our sand-castle virtues
content to be a doer
as well as a thinker,
prefer lifting our pen
rather than un-sheath our sword


Posted By: Unbeliever
Date Posted: October 18 2006 at 07:22
Thanks for the info Sean, There will also be at-least 2 Australians making the trip! It'll be a once in a lifetime event for me...
 
By the way, what's this I hear of Koenjihyakkei getting involved?


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Posted By: VanderGraafKommandöh
Date Posted: October 19 2006 at 19:12
How about us Brits, Sean?

I hope I can somehow get there, but I cannot hold any promises.  I'd love to go though!  This is the sort of show we need in the UK and as France is just across the pond, this is an idea.  All I need is someone to go with, some kind of way of getting there and I'm sorted.

Not sure if I'll have my car by then, but I should have.  However, I've never driven abroad before and it could be a bit daunting.

Hugues, you're familiar with travelling to the UK by Train, so is it a good idea to go to Paris on the Eurostar, then to Toulouse and then to Carmaux?

And if we're doing Hotels... I think we should all try and get in the same hotel, or as close as possible, for that ultimate prog experience!


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Posted By: The Hemulen
Date Posted: October 20 2006 at 17:02
I would love to go to this but I know for certain I shan't be able to afford it. All you lucky chaps who'll be there had better give me a detailed report on your return!

Ho hum.


Posted By: Cesar Inca
Date Posted: October 20 2006 at 22:03
 
Judging by their recently released third album "ZePTO", the NeBeLNeST performance in this RIO Festival should be epic.
 
  Cheers to all those who will attend! 


Posted By: Cesar Inca
Date Posted: October 20 2006 at 22:08
Oh, regardless of the festival of this thread, let me recommend you a great RIO album from a non-Freanch speaking country. Spanish quartet OCTOBER EQUUS has released their eponymous debut album earlier this year, and it's really great!! The oppressive dynamics of  Presenet, the challenging deconstructions of classic Henry Cow and the ultra-neurotic vibe of Wetton-era King Crimson are cleverly combined in their sound.
 
Check their entry in PA for further details. 
 
  Kind regards.


Posted By: Hatters
Date Posted: February 17 2007 at 08:33
If I wasnt 17 and can't get there I would definetly go.

I recommend anyone who can go, go because it will be AWESOME.


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Posted By: victor77
Date Posted: April 10 2007 at 23:34
Three avant fanatics from Spain are preparing the trip. I must say, if anyone attending the concert is interested in arranging some kind of progarchivers meeting and take a beer during a break, it would be very funny.


Posted By: Syzygy
Date Posted: April 11 2007 at 14:58
Originally posted by victor77 victor77 wrote:

Three avant fanatics from Spain are preparing the trip. I must say, if anyone attending the concert is interested in arranging some kind of progarchivers meeting and take a beer during a break, it would be very funny.
 
Martin (Alucard) and myself will be there, and I'll certainly be happy to meet any fellow forum members - pm me and we can fix something up.


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I've got my doubts about how much to contribute
to the already rich among us...'

Robert Wyatt, Gloria Gloom




Posted By: Alucard
Date Posted: April 12 2007 at 09:25
Originally posted by victor77 victor77 wrote:

Three avant fanatics from Spain are preparing the trip. I must say, if anyone attending the concert is interested in arranging some kind of progarchivers meeting and take a beer during a break, it would be very funny.
 
look out for us Wink
 
http://s23.photobucket.com/albums/b392/Bongo109/?start=#imgAnch7">MeublesSchwindratzheim061.jpg
 
Chris, Hugues (unfortunately not comingCry), Aymeric, (monsieur Calyx) Martin
hasta pronto hombres
 
 


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Posted By: avestin
Date Posted: April 12 2007 at 09:36

@ Martin:

Is this Aymeric Leroy?


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Posted By: Alucard
Date Posted: April 12 2007 at 10:29
 
positive Assaf, we met  in October last year in Canterbury and had some good time in the 'Blind Dog' as we will have this year (at least I hope so) in the 'Auberge Du Sanglier' doing the RIO on the traces of 'Caravan'Wink
 
 
 
 
 
 


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Explain the meaning of this song and share it"



Posted By: avestin
Date Posted: April 12 2007 at 23:09
Originally posted by Alucard Alucard wrote:

 
positive Assaf, we met  in October last year in Canterbury and had some good time in the 'Blind Dog' as we will have this year (at least I hope so) in the 'Auberge Du Sanglier' doing the RIO on the traces of 'Caravan'Wink
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
Cool!
 
Could you tell him I liked the bio he wrote for Vortex and in their sleeve of the reissue of their two albums? It was a great guide when I added them to PA.
 
Have a great time!
 
 


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Posted By: Syzygy
Date Posted: April 16 2007 at 18:56
OK, just back from the festival and extremely tired - full write ups to follow over next couple of weeks. Martin filmed just about everything, we met up with Slipperman and co from Barcelona and also Royal Jelly, mingled with the great and the good of the avant prog scene and generally had a fantastic time, made all the better for meeting up with other forum members. Sean Trane unfortunately couldn't make it for this one - if you read this Hugues, we all missed you!
 
The event seems to have been a success and there's already talk of another one maybe next year. There was a lot of other interesting gossip, but more of that later...


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'Like so many of you
I've got my doubts about how much to contribute
to the already rich among us...'

Robert Wyatt, Gloria Gloom




Posted By: Sean Trane
Date Posted: April 17 2007 at 06:56
Originally posted by Syzygy Syzygy wrote:

OK, just back from the festival and extremely tired - full write ups to follow over next couple of weeks. Martin filmed just about everything, we met up with Slipperman and co from Barcelona and also Royal Jelly, mingled with the great and the good of the avant prog scene and generally had a fantastic time, made all the better for meeting up with other forum members. Sean Trane unfortunately couldn't make it for this one - if you read this Hugues, we all missed you!
 
The event seems to have been a success and there's already talk of another one maybe next year. There was a lot of other interesting gossip, but more of that later...
 
Chris, Martin,
 
My heart is definitely damaged for having missed thisDeadCryOuchEmbarrassed. The only thing that soothed it, is that I finally got to see VdGG in concert, last sunday. They  were amazing too, even if Jaxon's sax was missing to all of us, but the trio was so StarstellarStar that by half the concert, it could seemed that VdGG's music could easily have been without it.
 
Magnificent gig, but it only mended partly the loss of not meeting you guys there.
 
Problems with the girlfriend's house is solved, going to the judge this afternoon. The car problems turned out not as expensive as originally thought. Not the head gasket, but the water pump was shot.


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let's just stay above the moral melee
prefer the sink to the gutter
keep our sand-castle virtues
content to be a doer
as well as a thinker,
prefer lifting our pen
rather than un-sheath our sword


Posted By: Alucard
Date Posted: April 17 2007 at 08:16
 
coming down slowly.........after great concerts, a great athmosphere, having shared all this with Chris, Flora, Royal Jelly, Slipperman & friends, bad weather & having had  breakfast with John Greaves, Chris Cutler, Aymeric Leroy, Steve Feigenbaum,  Bob Drake, Jean Herve Peron, Dave Kerman all at the same table it's just hard to get back to the grindstone.... looking forward to next year and to see some more of you there.Wink
 
PS Hugues we missed you
 
PS2 wait for some upcoming clips of the festival on 'You Tube' (will take some time so)
 
PS3 Assaf , finally we didn't made it to 'L'auberge Du Sanglier, but we get some great stories from people having lived that period!


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Explain the meaning of this song and share it"



Posted By: avestin
Date Posted: April 17 2007 at 18:34
Originally posted by Alucard Alucard wrote:

... having had  breakfast with John Greaves, Chris Cutler, Aymeric Leroy, Steve Feigenbaum,  Bob Drake, Jean Herve Peron, Dave Kerman all at the same table it's just hard to get back to the grindstone....
 
 
Shocked  Not fair...........   Cry   Damn it!!!!   Angry    Ouch
 
I truly hope there'll be another one next year and that this time I'll have enough money and time to attend.
 
Looking forward to reading your stories and seeing your videos.
 
 


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Posted By: VanderGraafKommandöh
Date Posted: April 17 2007 at 18:46
Oh wow, this sounded amazing!

Let's hope they repeat this next year, so more of us can meet up and meet some of our heros (both PA and RIO related) and see some of the most amazing and challenging bands in the world.

I'm presuming Steve Feigenbaum doesn't deal with Wayside orders himself, 'cause my order from them arrived Monday morning. LOL


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Posted By: victor77
Date Posted: April 17 2007 at 19:13
ClapClapClapafter three days of incredible and outstanding music in the mountains of France, i can only say that this has been one of the best events i´ve ever attended. I wish next year there´s another chance to enjoy superb musicians from old and young generations to make us all enjoy the dark side of music.ClapClapClap
 
otherwise, still waiting for martin and chris review Wink


Posted By: chamberry
Date Posted: April 17 2007 at 19:34
Good to see you guys enjoyed (and who couldn't you? Tongue)

I would like to attend to next years festival. I may start saving some money for it.

I'm looking forward to seeing the videos!



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Posted By: avestin
Date Posted: April 17 2007 at 20:11
Originally posted by chamberry chamberry wrote:

Good to see you guys enjoyed (and who couldn't you? Tongue)

I would like to attend to next years festival. I may start saving some money for it.

I'm looking forward to seeing the videos!

 
 
I'll meet you there....   
 
 
 
 
hopefully.....
 
 
 


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Posted By: uribreitman
Date Posted: April 18 2007 at 06:14
The RIO Festival Report - France, April 2007
 
Time: Friday-Sunday, April 13-15 2007.

Location: Cap'Découverte, Carmaux, France.

Bands: Magma (fr), Present (fr), Faust (de), Guapo (uk), Zao (fr), Mats Morgan Band (sw), Nebelnest (fr), Salle Gaveau (jp), Peter Blegvad Trio (uk).

Summary: great festival, especially if you're French.

Best Shows: 1) Guapo; 2) Magma; 3) Salle Gaveau.

Worst Shows: 1) Peter Blegvad Trio; 2) Faust; 3) Zao.

Production & Organization: 9/10

Greatest Moments: 1) Roger Trigaux of "Present" breaking an electric guitar on stage at the end of the show, and throwing the broken instrument on an innocent keyboard; 2) Christian Vander ending the festival with a small balade, sung by himself; 3) Mats Morgan band members jumping up & down on the stage;

Worst Moments: 1) Peter Blegvad getting confused on which song he's going to sing next; 2) Zao pianist Francois Cahen telling the audience that their lead female singer has been hospitalized; 3) Faust's frontman Jean-Hervé Peron running with a handsaw through the terrified audience.

Performance one-liner descriptions: Magma filled the hall and proved it was the king of the French prog scene, even today. Present chose to give 2 gigs, one acoustic with 2 pianos, one electric with a full band - both not their career peaks. Faust cared more about the opposition than the rock music itself. Guapo shocked the crowd with a powerful show, using high-volume and climax-building to great effect. Zao's lead singer couldn't show up, so their gig was one of their all-time worst. Mats Morgan band displayed a great sense of humor, happy melodies and excellent group cohesion. Nebelnest were fierce (drummer taking off his shirt on the 2nd piece), but couldn't go beyond their recorded output. Salle Gaveau came out of nowhere to suprise the French crowd with a very polished, elegant and lively ensemble playing. Peter Blegvad Trio were'nt RIO at all, and therefore should not have been invited to the festival.

See you next year? Only if great names will show up.

Suggestions for RIO-FEST 2008: 1) Eskaton; 2) Art Bears; 3) Thinking Plague; 4) Koenji Hyakkei; 5) Happy Family; 6) Universal Totem Orchestra; 7) Sleepytime Gorilla Museum; 8) Samla Mammas Manna; 9) Birdsongs of the Mesozoic; 10) Far Corner; 11) Univers Zero.

Compliments: The Rocktime Association for a great event; The festival staff for a professional workout; Asaf Carmeli & Erez Sayag for the wise comments; Pedro from Portugal and Sergio from USA for the international angle; Udi Koomran for the inside stories; Steve Feigenbaum from Cunieform Records for the passionate debate; Jennifer Edmondson for the taxi sharing; Didier Laloup for the fine hospitality in the park inn.
 
 
Originally posted at http://mitkadem.blogspot.com/ - http://mitkadem.blogspot.com/


Posted By: Alucard
Date Posted: April 18 2007 at 13:57
Salut Uri,
dommage that you didn't liked Peter Blegvad (who played as you surely Know with 'Faust', 'Slap 'Happy, was one of the fathers of 'Kew Rhône' and has IMO enough credits to be on the list of a RIO festival, even so the Blegvad Trio delivers mainly traditional songwriting. BTW His press conference  was a highlight of RIO humour and wit and a masterpiece on it's own merit started  by Chris hilarious questions!
 
PS I prefer to see Jean-Hervé Peron playing a chainsaw to Phil Collins singing. Wink
 
 


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Explain the meaning of this song and share it"



Posted By: victor77
Date Posted: April 18 2007 at 19:41
brief reply to uri
 
 First: i don´t think Roger Trigaux breaking the instruments was a great moment, but one of the saddest. As we all got very surprised when it happened and we even laughed for a while, after the concert we had a discussion with my mates and we reached this conclusion: Roger Trigaux broke his instruments because he was unable to play with the rest of the band, and he felt so angry by that that he exploded. When at the end of Promenade... all the band was doing the noisy improvisation, Roger Trigaux really wanted to play withthem and join the noisy sounds, and for sure the music was all clear in his mind, but he was too weak to play with them, and that was why he exploded in rage and anger, because he could not play. remeber taht after all the breakening, Roger Trigaux stood opposite the band and the audience, hiding his face with his hands. Shame? Sadness? Rage? I don´t know.
 
Second: Univers Zero was contacted to play for the festival, but they were not finallly invited because they were too expensive and because its playing was not worth for the festival (anyone take his own conclusion about this)
 
other things:
 
best shows: magma, present (acoustic), mats/morgan and salle gaveau
worst shows: Peter Blegvad Trio, nebelnest and guapo
 
the great question of the festival; because the great level of drummers, could you imagine a show with christian vander, dave kerman, morgan agren and chris cutler playing all together?
 
 
 
 


Posted By: uribreitman
Date Posted: April 19 2007 at 08:25
Hello Victor,
 
"i don´t think Roger Trigaux breaking the instruments was a great moment, but one of the saddest."
That's why it was a great moment - his rage was surprising and real.
Since both of us really don't why he did it, we can only assume his reasons. But it was a shock, and not a laugh.
 
"worst shows: Peter Blegvad Trio, nebelnest and guapo"
Me and two of my mates at the festival were *blown-out* by Guapo.
I really don't think it was one of the worst shows.
There is a general agreement about the fact that the Blegvad gig was aweful.
 
And about UZ - everyone knows that Daniel Denis is not a good friend of Trigaux. That's the main reason why there were not invited, I think.
 
 


Posted By: Syzygy
Date Posted: April 19 2007 at 18:32

Detailed reviews will appear in the live reviews forum, but here's my quick overview of the RIO festival:

My musical highlights - Magma, Faust, Present (electric), Guapo, Salle Garveau

Disappointments - Zao, Nebelnest, Mats Morgan

I can't honestly say that I disliked any of the performances, and overall the standard was very high. I enjoyed Peter Blegvad's set, although I understand why some people felt it was out of place in this context, and Present's acoustic set was perhaps the boldest experiment of the weekend but for me it wasn't that successful.

Memorable moments: John Greaves performing his wonderful setting of Dylan Thomas' "The Green Fuse" alone at the grand piano; Chris Cutler's drumming; Jean Herve Peron cutting the word 'Rien' into a piece of plasterboard before running amok in the audience with a chainsaw; Roger Trigaux's "Pete Townsend" moment; Dave Kerman shrieking 'did you hear what your mother said?'; Guapo wandering through the audience with gongs and melodicas; musicians staying in the same auberge as fans; Jean Herve Peron being the nicest chap you could meet (when he isn't brandishing a chainsaw).

Cherry on the icing: meeting up with fellow RIO fans, especially Alucard (thanks for organising the taxi and generally being a splendid human being), Royal Jelly, Victor 77, Slipperman and the rest of the guys from Barcelona, all of whom made the whole thing pretty nearly perfect. See you next time guys, with any luck!



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'Like so many of you
I've got my doubts about how much to contribute
to the already rich among us...'

Robert Wyatt, Gloria Gloom




Posted By: VanderGraafKommandöh
Date Posted: April 19 2007 at 18:39
Eek, a chainsaw?  Is that legal? LOL

How did he manage not to hurt anyone? Wink


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Posted By: Syzygy
Date Posted: April 19 2007 at 18:46
Originally posted by Geck0 Geck0 wrote:

Eek, a chainsaw?  Is that legal? LOL

How did he manage not to hurt anyone? Wink
 
Remember kids, don't try this at home! Faust are professional abusers of power tools on stage (angle grinder and cement mixer were also featured) and are heavily insured. Probably. 


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'Like so many of you
I've got my doubts about how much to contribute
to the already rich among us...'

Robert Wyatt, Gloria Gloom




Posted By: VanderGraafKommandöh
Date Posted: April 19 2007 at 18:52
Was the blade actually turning, 'cause I think when Eminem (or whoever else did it) did it, the engine was running, but the blade wasn't spinning.

I suspect Roger Trigaux destroying his equipment was more dangerous. LOL


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Posted By: Syzygy
Date Posted: April 19 2007 at 19:05
I was on the far side of the hall, but I suspect you're right - Faust are very theatrical but I've spoken to Jean Herve on several occasions (including at the festival) and he doesn't strike me as the type to endanger his audience, even if the performance can seem traumatising. 

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'Like so many of you
I've got my doubts about how much to contribute
to the already rich among us...'

Robert Wyatt, Gloria Gloom




Posted By: victor77
Date Posted: April 19 2007 at 19:37
ask my friend if the blade was spinning, he saw it through the corner of his eye when jhp´s arm got weak and nearly cut his hair!LOL We all laugh now, but at the moment he was both angry and terrified!


Posted By: Alucard
Date Posted: April 23 2007 at 14:07
^^Thanx for the flowers Chris,Embarrassed
the compliment is returned with an extra flower for Madame Syzygy
 
 
my favourite moments in no specific order:
 
-Breakfast à l'auberge with the musicians & fans
 
-nearly all concerts with a special mention for Present, Faust & Guapo
 
-the rehearsal of 'Present' with Roger Trigaux howling and laughing in the mike for testing
 
-the John Greaves solo part of the Blegvad Trio concert
 
-the press conference of Peter Blegvad and seeing him after the conference talking to a fan half a meter beside his shoes
 
-the drumming of Vander, Cutler, Karmen, Niermeyer, Agren
 
-Mats Oberg dancing on stage after the concert
 
-Some girls from a sport-class, moving their matrasses to the boys room when we came home from a concert
 
-having a chat with John Greaves about his up-coming record
 
-The prog conference à l'auberge including  Jean-Hervé Peron declaring 'Hawkwind' officially as Krautrock!
 
-The hot dogs from 'Omelette Atomique'
 
-Kido the guitar player from 'Salle Gaveau' playing 'Champs Ellyseés' & assorted Beatles tunes  on Acoustic guitar on the record stand
 
-the 100% British look of Steve from the Rer stand (and having made Peter Blegvad sign my copy of his book)
 
-Chris playing 'Son Of Mister Green Genes ' on my Winnie Pooh plastic guitar
& Flora playing her Shakuhachi in the breakfast room
 
-Seeing Chris Cutler hop around during the 'Magma' concert to get the best look at Christian  Vander
 
 


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Explain the meaning of this song and share it"



Posted By: Sean Trane
Date Posted: April 24 2007 at 04:15
Originally posted by Alucard Alucard wrote:

 
-Some girls from a sport-class, moving their matraces to the boys room when we came home from a concert
 
 
Nevermind the rest!! Please expand on this event!!!Big%20smileTongueWink
 
To really make me feel likre I lost outOuchWinkLOL


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let's just stay above the moral melee
prefer the sink to the gutter
keep our sand-castle virtues
content to be a doer
as well as a thinker,
prefer lifting our pen
rather than un-sheath our sword


Posted By: Alucard
Date Posted: April 24 2007 at 11:03
Hugues,
just a reminder of bygone  days, when an old geezer crawles home after the last concert to get some sleep ,while the youth ....isn't life so unfair....Cry
LOL
 
PS 1  you have NO excuse for not coming next year !
 
PS 2 I did arrangements with the sport class to do the same stunts next yearWink
 
 


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"Hey there! Rotter's Club!
Explain the meaning of this song and share it"



Posted By: Cesar Inca
Date Posted: April 28 2007 at 11:46
 
HI, RIO FOLKS, THIS IS CÉSAR INCA.
 
I haven't attended this RIO Festival, but surely you are quite aware of my interest in t5his genre and my deepst appreciation for NeBeLNeST's music. I have all their albums and "ZePTO" was one of my partiuclar fave albums of 2006, so I was a bit concerned about the commentaries on their performance posted here.
 
I guess my question for all attendants is: What was the main reason for their performance being so dissaponting or nothing special?
 
   Kind regards, and thanks in advance for your attention.


Posted By: Unbeliever
Date Posted: April 28 2007 at 19:54
My impression of NeBeLNeST's concert, and indeed of their recorded output so far is that their music doesn't seem to develop. Sure, the albums document a development of the band, and their sound is progressive, but within the music I don't get the feeling that it is taking you anywhere - it doesn't progress in the same way that Guapo's Five Suns or a Present composition does (to draw comparisons to the other performers of the event).

That said, NeBeLNeST are good musicians, their gig was tight and well prepared and the visual show well presented. I just think they don't have the strength in composition of some of the other bands performing at the festival. the band are young, and perhaps this will change.

After their concert though I did get the positive feeling that there are still people making new challenging music and that it is still evolving. I think their inclusion in the RIO festival was essential as it epitomizes the original zeitgeist of the RIO movement to support new music and new musicians.

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Posted By: Syzygy
Date Posted: April 29 2007 at 06:29
I think that if I had seen Nebelnest in a different context - at a festival with a lot of neo prog bands for example - I'd have been a lot more impressed. As Unbeliever said, they're good musicians and they have a sound that I enjoy, and there was certainly nothing wrong with their performance at the festival; as I think I said in my review, they seemed to go down well with the audience. In the context of the RIO festival, however, they were quite unexceptional. Guapo (probably the band closest to them in style) gave a much more exciting performance, both musically and visually, and seemed to fit the RIO mould much more comfortably. Nebelnest's compositions dont always have the unexpected twists and turns of RIO at its best, and there didn't seem to be much improvisation either. Bear in mind as well that Nebelnest were appearing alongside legends like Magma, Faust and Present; it was a bit like seeing IQ appearing at the same festival as Genesis, Yes and Jethro Tull (and not the crappy 80s incarnations either).
 
To put it in some kind of perspective, although I wasn't that impressed with their festival performance Zepto is still on my shopping list and, based on your description, I expect that I'll enjoy it.


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I've got my doubts about how much to contribute
to the already rich among us...'

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Posted By: Cesar Inca
Date Posted: May 04 2007 at 11:52
Thank you for the input. They clarified some concepts noted down in other previous message. A big salutation to all of you who enjoyed the festival.
 
   Kind regards.
 
 


Posted By: Sean Trane
Date Posted: May 07 2007 at 06:13
Originally posted by Syzygy Syzygy wrote:

I think that if I had seen Nebelnest in a different context - at a festival with a lot of neo prog bands for example - I'd have been a lot more impressed. As Unbeliever said, they're good musicians and they have a sound that I enjoy, and there was certainly nothing wrong with their performance at the festival; as I think I said in my review, they seemed to go down well with the audience. In the context of the RIO festival, however, they were quite unexceptional. Guapo (probably the band closest to them in style) gave a much more exciting performance, both musically and visually, and seemed to fit the RIO mould much more comfortably. Nebelnest's compositions dont always have the unexpected twists and turns of RIO at its best, and there didn't seem to be much improvisation either. Bear in mind as well that Nebelnest were appearing alongside legends like Magma, Faust and Present; it was a bit like seeing IQ appearing at the same festival as Genesis, Yes and Jethro Tull (and not the crappy 80s incarnations either).
 
To put it in some kind of perspective, although I wasn't that impressed with their festival performance Zepto is still on my shopping list and, based on your description, I expect that I'll enjoy it.
 
Although I had seen Nebenest a few years ago and had well enjoyed it, I feared a bit for them being out of their league with such a stellar line-up of this festival.
 
Clearly their music is more Crimson-based ( I always refer to their sound as the Live USA album improv track Asbury Park) and was not as appealing to RIO/Zeuhl fans. Posting also in Progressive Ears (where a fair bit of members were present), Nebelnest's performance was also not as well received as well.
 
 
Chris, I suggest you start with their bebut album , in case youi don't have it yet


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