Masterpieces by bands not in the Top 100.
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Topic: Masterpieces by bands not in the Top 100.
Posted By: Cheesecakemouse
Subject: Masterpieces by bands not in the Top 100.
Date Posted: August 08 2006 at 19:49
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What albums do you think are absolute essential classics by bands not listed in the top hundred, IMO I think some of these albums are a lot better than some albums and groups in the top 100 Here's mine so far:
Univers Zero - Herersie
Can - Tago Mago
Magma - Udu Wudu
Neu! 75
Magma - Kohntarkosz
Can - Future Days
Can - Ege Bamyasi
Magma - MDK
Univers Zero - Ceux du dehores
Faust IV
I would add Frank Zappa's Hot Rats, but I don't know if he is still in the top 100 list, same goes for Brian Eno's another Green World. ------------- |
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Posted By: micky
Date Posted: August 08 2006 at 19:51
great albums... great list....all essential  ------------- The Pedro and Micky Experience - When one no longer requires psychotropics to trip |
Cheesecakemouse wrote:Posted By: Cheesecakemouse
Date Posted: August 08 2006 at 19:53
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Opps I forgot to add Dun Eros ------------- |
Posted By: The Miracle
Date Posted: August 08 2006 at 20:04
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Excellent list, I agree on all that I've heard(6 of them) And with a list like that you're calling prog metal satanic?   ------------- http://www.last.fm/user/ocellatedgod" rel="nofollow - last.fm |
Posted By: micky
Date Posted: August 08 2006 at 20:05
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Posted By: The Wizard
Date Posted: August 08 2006 at 20:06
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no Tago Mago = an injustice -------------  
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Posted By: micky
Date Posted: August 08 2006 at 20:09
sometimes there are albums that take the truly special progster to appreciate... let the masses have their DT and their Genesis and Rush. These albums are the gems discovered by exploriing, progressing in your prog explorations .. and of course following great advice/recommends. ------------- The Pedro and Micky Experience - When one no longer requires psychotropics to trip |
Posted By: Cheesecakemouse
Date Posted: August 08 2006 at 20:13
 that prog metal thing was a misunderstanding, I think I got it muddled up with that death metal stuff. But yes UV's Heresie doesn't remind me of rainbows and sunshine .------------- |
Posted By: The Miracle
Date Posted: August 08 2006 at 20:15
And neither does Kohntarkosz and MDK! ------------- http://www.last.fm/user/ocellatedgod" rel="nofollow - last.fm |
Posted By: The Wizard
Date Posted: August 08 2006 at 20:33
I think of albums like Tago Mago to be rewards to those who have expanded musically. -------------
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Posted By: Arrrghus
Date Posted: August 08 2006 at 20:34
You have really been going to town on Can! ------------- 
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Posted By: micky
Date Posted: August 08 2006 at 20:35
good man!------------- The Pedro and Micky Experience - When one no longer requires psychotropics to trip |
Posted By: chamberry
Date Posted: August 08 2006 at 20:35
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The first that comes to mind is Comus - First Utterance, but I can see why not many like it. Ash ra temple s/t is another gem. Grobschnitt - Solar music live is another one... There are many bands that aren't in the top 100 and have masterpieces, but I don't know all of them and I don't say its a masterpiece unless I listen to it for about 2-3 months.
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Posted By: The Wizard
Date Posted: August 08 2006 at 20:38
Of course. They're absolutely magnificent! -------------
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Posted By: moonlapse
Date Posted: August 08 2006 at 20:55
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Hard to believe Tago Mago isn't in the top 100 - agree it's definitely a classic. All the way down to #264 at this writing. Wow. Interesting list because I've picked up 6 of those in the last month or so (Tago Mago, Future Days, Ege Bamyasi, Udu Wudu, Neu!75, and Faust IV). Just got into krautrock and Magma recently and am totally hooked on the stuff. I think Phallus Dei by Amon Duul II is another classic that deserves to be in the top 100, or at least quite a bit higher than where it stands now at #457. Not an easy listen, but great stuff once you get into it. |
Posted By: Faaip_De_Oiad
Date Posted: August 08 2006 at 21:36
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"Ni" by Koenjihyakkei "Hyderomastgroningem" by ruins "Eros" by Dun .... Well pretty much most Zeuhl Very overlooked it seems ------------- 
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Posted By: R_DeNIRO
Date Posted: August 08 2006 at 21:54
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Sieges Even - The Art of Navigating by the Stars (2005). Not a classic yet, by now it's only a masterpiece. ------------- We were always be much human than we whish to be. |
Posted By: micky
Date Posted: August 08 2006 at 22:22
I don't know if it's overlooked as much as Zeuhl really isn't for everyone.. I know I've tried to expose many to Magma for example... it really is an acquired taste to some.. unless you are really serious about prog.. people just move on to what catches their ear on the first listen or two. Some however, like myself, fell in love with it on the first listen. It's not overlooked as much as it really just isn't for everyone... and admit it... we like it that way... ------------- The Pedro and Micky Experience - When one no longer requires psychotropics to trip |
Posted By: Cheesecakemouse
Date Posted: August 08 2006 at 23:59
Yeah I've gotta get some Amon Duul II, from what I've heard another classic Krautrock band ------------- |
Posted By: Raff
Date Posted: August 09 2006 at 00:10
*fuming in anger* Will you stop dissing Rush fans once and for all? Didn't I tell you to refrain from uttering the names Rush and DT at the same time?  I'm thinking about joining the PM team myself... The Symphonic Prog team is way too small for the two of us! |
Posted By: stonebeard
Date Posted: August 09 2006 at 00:17
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Saens - Escaping from the Hands of God
Zappa - Roxy and Elsewhere
Zappa - Freak Out!
Zappa - Apostrophe (')
Zappa - Over-Nite Sensation
I'm just guessing on all those Zappas. I didn't actually look at the list. ------------- http://soundcloud.com/drewagler" rel="nofollow - My soundcloud. Please give feedback if you want! |
Posted By: Raff
Date Posted: August 09 2006 at 00:24
"First Utterance" is fantastic, though, as you correctly said, it may not be everyone's cup of tea. Pity their second album is utterly forgettable... Talk about a split personality! |
Posted By: Equality 7-2521
Date Posted: August 09 2006 at 00:26
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Gnidrolog's Lady Lake is continuosly overlooked.
Trout Mask Replica and Pavlov's Dog's Pampered Menial deserve spots too. ------------- "One had to be a Newton to notice that the moon is falling, when everyone sees that it doesn't fall. " |
Posted By: Trickster F.
Date Posted: August 09 2006 at 00:38
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All of my 5 star ratings? None of them are(and will never be)in Top 100. ------------- sig |
Posted By: soundsweird
Date Posted: August 09 2006 at 00:48
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The term "Top 100" means "100 Most Popular".... even if it's the "experts" (us) who came up with the list. Popularity is not one of the requirements for inclusion in the category of masterpiece. Having said that, who gets to decide what is and isn't a masterpiece? Maybe a peer group of prog musicians?
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Posted By: VanderGraafKommandöh
Date Posted: August 09 2006 at 00:55
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Robert Wyatt - Rock Bottom Gnidrolog - In Spite of Harry's Toe-nail Gnidrolog - Lady Lake Comus - First Utterance Soft Machine - s/t (Volume One) Soft Machine - Third Hatfield and the North - The Rotter's Club VdGG - World Record -------------   
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Posted By: Ricochet
Date Posted: August 09 2006 at 00:57
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oh, if I start telling the great albums of mine that aren't in the top 100, you'll all start rolling eyes...
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Posted By: Trickster F.
Date Posted: August 09 2006 at 00:59
I wouldn't necessarily suspect that most people supplying 5 star ratings for albums in the Top 100 are experts or anything. It's just that, a popular albums list and, even in this case, it is advisable to keep on looking for albums outside of the list, much like you do in mainstream top lists, besides the fact that the music in Top 100 varies from tolerable(well, most of it) to great .
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Posted By: VanderGraafKommandöh
Date Posted: August 09 2006 at 00:59
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Rico: Schulze... more Schulze and more Schulze... oh maybe some Ashra, Peter Gabriel and Brian Eno as well
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Posted By: Trickster F.
Date Posted: August 09 2006 at 01:01
Whole Tangerine Dream/Klaus Schulze discog?
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Posted By: Ricochet
Date Posted: August 09 2006 at 01:06
Some Tangerine Dream and Schulze of course... but also Godspeed, Fripp, other relevant Crimson albums, some Jarre...   AND SO ON.-------------
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Posted By: BaldFriede
Date Posted: August 09 2006 at 01:18
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Some of my absolute favourite albums which are not in the top 100: Gong - You Peter Hammill - The Fall of the House of Usher (1999 version) Nik Turner's Sphynx - Xitintoday (this album is probably too rare and obscure, but it is one of the very best prog recordings ever). Hawkwind - Warrior on the Edge of Time High Tide - Sea Shanties Mother Gong - Fairy Tales -------------  BaldJean and I; I am the one in blue. |
Posted By: stonebeard
Date Posted: August 09 2006 at 01:37
More likely, we'd be shutting our eyes....................
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Posted By: Ricochet
Date Posted: August 09 2006 at 01:38
tsk tsk tsk, as always. -------------
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Posted By: Faaip_De_Oiad
Date Posted: August 09 2006 at 02:37
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Posted By: SirPsycho388
Date Posted: August 09 2006 at 03:10
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Quadrophenia... ------------- Strangers passing in the street by chance two separate glances meet and I am you and what I see is me. And do I take you by the hand and lead you through the land and help me understand the best I can |
Posted By: Certif1ed
Date Posted: August 09 2006 at 03:28
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Hawkwind: Doremi Fasol Latido, Warrior on the Edge of Time, Levitation and Sonic Attack.
Gong: The Radio Gnome Invisible trilogy. Andrew Lloyd Webber: Variations. I wouldn't really want to see Can in the top 100 - Can, popular? I don't think so! Think of the damage to credibility that would cause... ------------- The important thing is not to stop questioning. |
Posted By: Chipiron
Date Posted: August 09 2006 at 03:36
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I also miss some "Godspeed..." maybe, although they're not too well known. ------------- [IMG]http://www.belderrain.es/GIFs/tora.gif"> |
Posted By: Rocktopus
Date Posted: August 09 2006 at 04:06
Just had to make some adjustments. And add these: Peter Hammill: Silent Corner and the Empty Stage Banco Del Mutuo Soccorso: Darwin! Magma: Kobaia Can: Ege Bamyasi Dün: Eros Gong: You Tangerine Dream: Alpha Centauri Museo Rosenbach: Zarathustra Secret Chiefs 3: Book of Horizons Spirogyra: St. Radigunds Balletto Di Bronzo: YZ National Health: National Health Frank Zappa: We're Only In It For The Money High Tide: Sea Shanties Klaus Schulze - Mirage Cluster - Zuckerzeit ------------- Over land and under ashes In the sunlight, see - it flashes Find a fly and eat his eye But don't believe in me Don't believe in me Don't believe in me |
Posted By: gong
Date Posted: August 09 2006 at 04:30
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Posted By: gong
Date Posted: August 09 2006 at 04:37
Pete Townshend "All The Best Cowboys..."
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Posted By: gong
Date Posted: August 09 2006 at 04:46
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Gong : "LIVE ETC"; "Shamal" ... King Crimson : "Discipline" ...
David Thorn: "Cloud Over Mercury" (with Tony Levin)
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Posted By: erik neuteboom
Date Posted: August 09 2006 at 05:08
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- Barclay James Harvest-Live
- The Strawbs-In Concert (BBC 1973/1974)
- Solaris-1990
- Triana-El Patio
- Grobschnitt-Solar Music Live
- Tangerine Dream-Encore
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Posted By: Australian
Date Posted: August 09 2006 at 05:31
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Yes - Tales From Topographic Oceans
Chris Squire - Fish Out of Water
Can't think of any more at the moment...
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Posted By: MikeEnRegalia
Date Posted: August 09 2006 at 05:32
and many more!  ------------- https://awesomeprog.com/release-polls/pa/aoty-2024/vote" rel="nofollow - 2024 Release Poll Listened to: 
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Posted By: Yukorin
Date Posted: August 09 2006 at 05:39
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Posted By: Chipiron
Date Posted: August 09 2006 at 05:52
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Posted By: MikeEnRegalia
Date Posted: August 09 2006 at 09:28
Yes, most popular = quite conservative ... unfortunately. ------------- https://awesomeprog.com/release-polls/pa/aoty-2024/vote" rel="nofollow - 2024 Release Poll Listened to:
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Posted By: Ricochet
Date Posted: August 09 2006 at 09:32
I think the essence of "popular" would mean "what mostly everybody likes the most". The gems and likings of prog of one's personal horizon, by that, shouldn't even be a collective taste. -------------
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Posted By: Raff
Date Posted: August 09 2006 at 09:48
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I just had a look at the Top 100, and I have to agree with Yukorin about its being rather conservative. Obviously, being based on site users' ratings, it includes some albums that leave me puzzled to say the least... That said, here's a few albums I consider prog masterpieces (or near-masterpieces) not included there: Hatfield and the North - s/t and The Rotters' Club National Health - s/t High Tide - Sea Shanties and s/t U.K. - s/t and Danger Money King Crimson - Discipline Deep Purple - In Rock and Machine Head |
Posted By: pirkka
Date Posted: August 09 2006 at 09:59
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Solaris: Nostradamus
After Crying: Struggle for Life
The Morrigan: Masque
Magna Carta: Lord Of The Ages
Alphataurus:Alphataurus
Azahar: Elixir
Gong: You
Incredible String Band: The hangmans Beautiful Daughter
Kingston Wall: Kingston Wall II
Lift: Moment of Hearing
Guy Manning: Matter of Life and Death (+ many more)
Nemo: Si, Prelude a la Ruine
New Trolls: Concerto Grosso I and II
Overhead: Metaepitome
Pekka Pohjola: Pahkasilmä Kaarnakorva
Rare Bird: As Your Mind Flies By
Wigwam: Fairyport
De De Lind: Io Non So Da Dove Vengo E Non So Dove Mai Andrò, Uo Mo È Il Nome Che Ni Han Dato
Contemporary Dead Finnish Music Ensemble: Ideal Standards vol 1.
And if some of the above happends to be in the top 100 - then thats okay
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Posted By: rockandrail
Date Posted: August 09 2006 at 10:02
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Earth & Fire: Song of the Marching Children, with the eponymous 18 minutes epic. Mellotron ala "in the wake of Poseidon" and my favourite female vocalist of all.
If you can find it, pick-up the compilation CD of their two first albums (Song of... and Atlantis). The sleeve is of the ugliest you can imagine (some kind of wallpaper with a photograph of the band in the late seventies when they had sadly turned disco) but the music content is amazing.
This Dutch band is really-really underrated, most probably because their LPs were always difficult to find outside Holland. ------------- Pierre R, the man who lost his signature |
Posted By: MikeEnRegalia
Date Posted: August 09 2006 at 10:50
I think that it would be useful to see the favorite albums of a user which have a low average rating and/or a low number of ratings. I think these say more about the user than whether he likes CttE or one of the other "failsafe" albums. Stay tuned for that feature on my website - maybe evn in the sig ("favorite underground albums"). ------------- https://awesomeprog.com/release-polls/pa/aoty-2024/vote" rel="nofollow - 2024 Release Poll Listened to:
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Posted By: Ricochet
Date Posted: August 09 2006 at 10:52
always on the move for new and intriguing. -------------
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Posted By: MikeEnRegalia
Date Posted: August 09 2006 at 10:59
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^ yes ... and unfortunately I don't have the time to implement all the things that I would like to do. But next weekend I'll definitely add some more features. A general "underground masterpieces" list would make sense too!
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Posted By: Yukorin
Date Posted: August 09 2006 at 11:05
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Posted By: bhikkhu
Date Posted: August 09 2006 at 11:38
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Most of what I would have chosen has already been mentioned.
There is one that should definitely be there. Peter Gabriel's third album. That is a masterpiece. ------------- a.k.a. H.T. http://riekels.wordpress.com" rel="nofollow - http://riekels.wordpress.com |
Posted By: Raff
Date Posted: August 09 2006 at 11:40
Though I have to admit I have a slight preference for its follow-up, the so-called "Security" album. However, both records contain some of Peter's best-ever songs, such as "Intruder", "No Self-Control" and the wonderful "San Jacinto", a personal favourite of mine.And how could I forget Kate Bush's "Hounds of Love"?  |
Posted By: Trickster F.
Date Posted: August 09 2006 at 11:53
That would be grim!
 (Speaking of grimness, have you seed my epic post on the third page of the Rogues Gallery thread. I had to mention you there. ) -- Ivan ------------- sig |
Posted By: Firepuck
Date Posted: August 09 2006 at 12:17
?????????????????
First off, progressive music is far from conservative (IMO) - I trust you are using the phrase in context. Perhaps 'predicable' would be a better term for what you want to convey.
The top 100 spans all decades and most genres. There are over 40 groups (quick count) represented. It provides an excellent springboard for anyone interested in getting into 'prog rock' or expanding their musical horizons. Personally this website has led me to explore new genres and to new groups. I have been listening to the 'classics' since the early 70's and have revived my interest in prog rock because of this site. I guess you can teach an old dog new tricks...
If you don't like the top 100 then you should continue to write reviews, I have read your's and they are well written and informative. Just on the strength of one of your reviews I have to go out and acquire the Hellebore album (great review by the way). I would love to get a vinyl copy, just checked, nothing on e-bay...
As time goes on the top 100 should become more ecclectic, but the dinosaurs of prog shall always have a place at the table - it's just the way history works.
And one more thing - I have been collecting vinyl LP's for 30 years now and currently have 1500+. How the &%!$# have you acquired the number you have in such a short time (I'm assuming you've only been listening and collecting for 5 years or so).
I'M SOOOO JEALOUS!!!
 Keep writing reviews - I will keep exploring.
Cheers
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Posted By: Firepuck
Date Posted: August 09 2006 at 12:40
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Oh, and if I was to pick an album that is in my top 100 that isn't even on the top 500 here it would be...
KLAATU - "Hope" ------------- Kryten : "'Pub'? Ah yes, A meeting place where humans attempt to achieve advanced states of mental incompetence by the repeated consumption of fermented vegetable drinks." |
Posted By: Yukorin
Date Posted: August 09 2006 at 12:54
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Posted By: Yukorin
Date Posted: August 09 2006 at 13:18
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Posted By: gong
Date Posted: August 09 2006 at 14:54
NICE POST! BTW, what about King Crimson "Power To Believe" ?
i think thats an AWESOME KG album!
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Posted By: gong
Date Posted: August 09 2006 at 15:02
I LIKE WIGWAM!
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Posted By: Proghat
Date Posted: August 09 2006 at 15:52
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OSI - OSI OSI - Free Transatlantic - SMPTe Transatlantic - Bridge Across Forever Spock's Beard - V Spock's Beard - Snow Angra - Holy Land Angra - Temple of Shadows For the most part though, the Top 100 is pretty close to what I like. |
Posted By: omri
Date Posted: August 09 2006 at 16:05
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I have to agree with Firepuck. The list is not perfect but it's a good place to start with. To those who are upset about DVD and so just choose "studio albums only" and then it will make more sense.
However, it's another fine way to be exposed to music one does'nt know so I'll pay my share :
Can - Tago mago, Magna - Udu wudu and mainly Robert Wyatt - Rock bottom are choices I support with all my heart. others :
King crimson - starless & bible black,Islands, Discipline, Thrak and The power to believe.
VDGG - The least we can do is wave to each other and World record.
Peter Hamil - The silent corner & the empty stage and Over
Jethro Tull - Heavy horses
Robert Wyatt - Old rottenhat
Kate Bush - The dreaming
Matching mole - Little red record
Talk talk - Spirit of eden and Laghing stock
Moody blues - In search of the lost chord and Question of balance
Amon dull II - Phalus dei
Focus - Moving waves
Sylvian & Fripp - Dammage
U.K. - s/t
Deep purple - s/t (IMO it's milions time better than In rock)
Trafic - John Barlycorn must die
Strawbs - From the witchwood
Pink floyd - Atom heart mother
Vangelis - Heaven & hell
Aphrodite's child - 666
Proto-kaw - Early recordings from Kansas
ELP - Works vol I
also Renaissance's Scheherezade tend to get in and out the list and must be there IMO. ------------- omri |
Posted By: cold103
Date Posted: August 09 2006 at 17:46
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The 3rd and the Mortal - Painting on Glass After Forever - Invisible Circles Eternity X - The Edge Orphaned Land - Mabool I love those albums. |
Posted By: progadicto
Date Posted: August 09 2006 at 21:14
I agree with that list... all underrated masterpieces... sorry for those who still don't listen this awsome albums... ------------- ... E N E L B U N K E R... |
Posted By: mrgd
Date Posted: August 10 2006 at 00:06
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My view is that the term 'Masterpiece' is used altogether too loosely to describe albums which although they may be very, very good are not and never will be masterpieces.But I guess it's a matter of definition and semantics.
For what it's worth,I feel the same about 5star reviews and ratings which can be very misleading. I find myself applying an 'acrooss the board' discount to many reviews and ratings otherwise I'd be totally broke running out and buying all these essential works of art and then deciding to use them as drinks coasters. Anyway, to get into the spirit of things, one you should definitely run out and buy from a band not in the top 100 is AIR CUT by Curved Air. It's just so good - call it what you will! ------------- Looking still the same after all these years... mrgd |
Posted By: Raff
Date Posted: August 10 2006 at 00:13
I agree 100%. "Air Cut" is a great album, and Eddie Jobson's performance on it is nothing short of spectacular - considering that he was only 17 at the time. |
Posted By: mrgd
Date Posted: August 10 2006 at 00:44
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TO GHOST RIDER:
[AND not 'Ghost Writer' this time] Couldn't have said it better myself! ------------- Looking still the same after all these years... mrgd |
Posted By: Firepuck
Date Posted: August 10 2006 at 10:36
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I seem to remember a post where someone created a top 100 list with only the top listed album from each group allowed on the list - or maybe I was just thinking of doing it... (more caffeine please).
Here is what the current top 100 would compress to. It would be interesting to see what the other 60 bands and their albums would be.
Perhaps this would be a list that is less about "fan-boy-ism" and more representative of the music we love. A list like this may allow up and coming bands or 'new discoveries' to move into the radar of members and visitors more quickly, creating even more interest in progressive rock (just a thought).
01. http://www.progarchives.com/Progressive_rock_discography_CD.asp?cd_id=1827 - YES - Close to the Edge
02. http://www.progarchives.com/Progressive_rock_discography_CD.asp?cd_id=2019 - JETHRO TULL - Thick As A Brick
03. http://www.progarchives.com/Progressive_rock_discography_CD.asp?cd_id=1441 - PINK FLOYD - Wish You Were Here
04. http://www.progarchives.com/Progressive_rock_discography_CD.asp?cd_id=1510 - GENESIS - Selling England By The Pound
05. http://www.progarchives.com/Progressive_rock_discography_CD.asp?cd_id=1903 - KING CRIMSON - In The Court Of The Crimson King
06. http://www.progarchives.com/Progressive_rock_discography_CD.asp?cd_id=3076 - RUSH - Moving Pictures
07. http://www.progarchives.com/Progressive_rock_discography_CD.asp?cd_id=1417 - VAN DER GRAAF GENERATOR - Pawn Hearts
08. http://www.progarchives.com/Progressive_rock_discography_CD.asp?cd_id=1147 - GENTLE GIANT - In a Glass House
09. http://www.progarchives.com/Progressive_rock_discography_CD.asp?cd_id=1672 - DREAM THEATER - Scenes From A Memory Metropolis Part II
10. http://www.progarchives.com/Progressive_rock_discography_CD.asp?cd_id=1754 - MARILLION - Script For A Jester's Tear
11. http://www.progarchives.com/Progressive_rock_discography_CD.asp?cd_id=329 - CAMEL - The Snow Goose
12. http://www.progarchives.com/Progressive_rock_discography_CD.asp?cd_id=69 - ANGLAGARD - Hybris
13. http://www.progarchives.com/Progressive_rock_discography_CD.asp?cd_id=3108 - CARAVAN - In The Land Of Grey And Pink
14. http://www.progarchives.com/Progressive_rock_discography_CD.asp?cd_id=6052 - TOOL - Lateralus
15. http://www.progarchives.com/Progressive_rock_discography_CD.asp?cd_id=1995 - PORCUPINE TREE - In Absentia
16. http://www.progarchives.com/Progressive_rock_discography_CD.asp?cd_id=9336 - RIVERSIDE - Second Life Syndrome
17. http://www.progarchives.com/Progressive_rock_discography_CD.asp?cd_id=1872 - EMERSON LAKE & PALMER (ELP) - Brain Salad Surgery
18. http://www.progarchives.com/Progressive_rock_discography_CD.asp?cd_id=3160 - HARMONIUM - Si On Avait Besoin D'une 5ième Saison
19. http://www.progarchives.com/Progressive_rock_discography_CD.asp?cd_id=5362 - AYREON - The Human Equation
20. http://www.progarchives.com/Progressive_rock_discography_CD.asp?cd_id=1985 - PREMIATA FORNERIA MARCONI (PFM) - Per Un Amico
21. http://www.progarchives.com/Progressive_rock_discography_CD.asp?cd_id=5330 - ZAPPA, FRANK - Hot Rats
22. http://www.progarchives.com/Progressive_rock_discography_CD.asp?cd_id=3448 - FOCUS - Hamburger Concerto
23. http://www.progarchives.com/Progressive_rock_discography_CD.asp?cd_id=1251 - SUPERTRAMP - Crime of the Century
24. http://www.progarchives.com/Progressive_rock_discography_CD.asp?cd_id=3357 - MAHAVISHNU ORCHESTRA - Birds of Fire
25. http://www.progarchives.com/Progressive_rock_discography_CD.asp?cd_id=5797 - OPETH - Still Life
26. http://www.progarchives.com/Progressive_rock_discography_CD.asp?cd_id=11446 - WISHBONE ASH - Argus
27. http://www.progarchives.com/Progressive_rock_discography_CD.asp?cd_id=1024 - PAIN OF SALVATION - The Perfect Element Part 1
28. http://www.progarchives.com/Progressive_rock_discography_CD.asp?cd_id=4160 - HACKETT, STEVE - Voyage Of The Acolyte
29. http://www.progarchives.com/Progressive_rock_discography_CD.asp?cd_id=5332 - MARS VOLTA, THE - De-loused in the Comatorium
30. http://www.progarchives.com/Progressive_rock_discography_CD.asp?cd_id=2509 - BACAMARTE - Depois do Fim
31. http://www.progarchives.com/Progressive_rock_discography_CD.asp?cd_id=479 - GRYPHON - Red Queen to Gryphon Three
32. http://www.progarchives.com/Progressive_rock_discography_CD.asp?cd_id=3204 - KANSAS - Leftoverture
33. http://www.progarchives.com/Progressive_rock_discography_CD.asp?cd_id=4905 - OLDFIELD, MIKE - Amarok
34. http://www.progarchives.com/Progressive_rock_discography_CD.asp?cd_id=5459 - IQ - Dark Matter
35. http://www.progarchives.com/Progressive_rock_discography_CD.asp?cd_id=11071 - BEATLES, THE - Sergeant Pepper's Lonely Heart's Club Band
36. http://www.progarchives.com/Progressive_rock_discography_CD.asp?cd_id=814 - LIQUID TENSION EXPERIMENT - Liquid Tension Experiment 2
37. http://www.progarchives.com/Progressive_rock_discography_CD.asp?cd_id=2302 - ORME, LE - Felona E Sorona
38. http://www.progarchives.com/Progressive_rock_discography_CD.asp?cd_id=117 - ARENA - The Visitor
39. http://www.progarchives.com/Progressive_rock_discography_CD.asp?cd_id=1091 - PARSONS PROJECT, ALAN - Tales of Mystery and Imagination - Edgar Allan Poe 40. http://www.progarchives.com/Progressive_rock_discography_CD.asp?cd_id=7417 - KRAFTWERK - The Man-Machine (Die Mensch-Maschine)
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Posted By: captainbeyond
Date Posted: August 10 2006 at 12:00
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Firepuck is going in the right direction: you can't complain with the results of a mathemetical formula. 2+2=4 and it always will, even if we really believe it should be 5. If you don't like the results, then change the formula/algorithm.
I'm not sure if simply retaining the top album by a given artist will do the trick, as bands such as King Crimson certainly have more than one of the top 100 albums in prog history. Maybe that single-album system could work if you changed the categorization to list the "top-100 artists of prog" instead of focusing on the albums.
Other than that, it's probably just a question of exposure. If you really feel that most people are not "getting it," then continue the process of proselization until enough people are converted to your pet albums and those albums end up on the top-100. Personally, I think people come to various albums in their own times and in their own ways. That process of discovery is what makes the journey and search all worthwhile. Regardless, time will continue to refine the list. Of course, there's nothing stopping anyone from putting up their own site or writing their own book about what they think shuould be considered the top-100 prog albums. In the meantime, the question has to be asked: "why is it important to change this list in the first place? Why should it be less 'predictable' or 'conservative?'" In order to be more entertaining? more 'accurate'? more welcoming of diversity? to validate our own personal tastes?
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Posted By: Firepuck
Date Posted: August 10 2006 at 12:32
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The captain is correct in that it is the journey of discovery which expands our collections. Without this website (and the top 100 list) I would never have renewed my interest in prog nor gotten into; Anglagard, Porcupine Tree, Focus, IQ, and Le Orme to name a few.
These discoveries have whet my progressive whistle and now I search further into the database to try the more obscure groups. It is an inevitable journey that I, and I'm sure many other members, face and look forward to. ------------- Kryten : "'Pub'? Ah yes, A meeting place where humans attempt to achieve advanced states of mental incompetence by the repeated consumption of fermented vegetable drinks." |
Posted By: patomtz
Date Posted: August 10 2006 at 14:43
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Spherical Universe EXperience, is no even in the archives and "Mental Torments" is just WOW ------------- I still can't get how Dream Theater music is created by humans Dream Theater in Monterrey, Mexico 03.03.06 Unforgettable 
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Posted By: stonebeard
Date Posted: August 10 2006 at 14:54
I'm still trying to figure out why The Visitor is the highest rated Arena album. I'm just plain confused.  ------------- http://soundcloud.com/drewagler" rel="nofollow - My soundcloud. Please give feedback if you want! |
Posted By: The Green Tank
Date Posted: August 10 2006 at 15:39
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Tales From Topographic Oceans is in and out of the bottom. Same with Frances the Mute. ------------- 
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Posted By: eugene
Date Posted: August 10 2006 at 17:49
I do consider it to be best Arena album. And, yes, it's strange that most people think likewise. ------------- carefulwiththataxe |
Posted By: Prog-jester
Date Posted: August 11 2006 at 04:25
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DISCIPLINE - Unfolded like Staricase
COLLAGE - Moonshine ANEKDOTEN - Vemod GYBE - Lift your skinny fists... UK - both albums are great GNIDROLOG - Lady Lake LOCANDA DELLE FATE - Forse le lucciole... INDUKTI - S.U.S.A.R. etc,etc,etc... |
Posted By: chopper
Date Posted: August 11 2006 at 08:20
Yep, Spirit of Eden is the one, possibly the best album on this site. I can't recommend this album enough.
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Posted By: threefates
Date Posted: August 11 2006 at 11:31
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Alan Parsons - Anything Once
(not a APP project - but much the same players) ------------- THIS IS ELP 
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Posted By: jcleary
Date Posted: August 11 2006 at 12:38
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Ambrosia's self titled debut album. Great from start to finish. The songs "Nice Nice Very Nice", "Time Waits For No One", "Make Us All Aware", "Mama Frog", and the awesome "Drink Of Water" are all Classic Prog songs! Nomimated for a Grammy as best recorded album of 1975. Alan Parsons does a brilliant job mixing this one. Awesome headphone album due to the amazing recording.
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Posted By: el böthy
Date Posted: August 11 2006 at 16:48
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First album I could think of is Muse Absolution. A five stars masterpiece if you ask me!!! ------------- "You want me to play what, Robert?" 
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Posted By: micky
Date Posted: August 11 2006 at 16:53
I gave that a try.... really didn't do anything for me... probably due for another chance.... ------------- The Pedro and Micky Experience - When one no longer requires psychotropics to trip |