Thoughts on Peter Gabriel Then and Now?
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Topic: Thoughts on Peter Gabriel Then and Now?
Posted By: The Lost Chord
Subject: Thoughts on Peter Gabriel Then and Now?
Date Posted: July 26 2006 at 17:35
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I was just listening to a few PG3 songs and 80's gabriel stuff and thought a few songs are pretty great. One in particular is Family Snapshot which i think its a beautiful song.
But, as for the Genesis fans here, I am a huge early Genesis fan...with posters surrounding me as I speak, I find watching Gabriel and how he performs today is still pretty enjoyable at times.
But how do you guys feel? I was watching a performance of snapshot from 86 and it is really emotional and great.
A very different feel from a Genesis performance ofcourse, but still an enjoyable watch.
I cant get into alot of his 80's stuff because I dispise alot of the instrumentation used after 1975.
Any thought on Gabriel then and now? -------------  "Only the sun knew why"
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Posted By: erik neuteboom
Date Posted: July 26 2006 at 17:42
Once Jill, his ex-wife, watched Peter Gabriel while performing macho Rael in his leather jacket during The Lamb, she cried "I wish he was that macho at home" .. because Peter Gabriel private was usually a tea drinking vegetarian ... .. Later she betrayed Peter with one person of the road crew, finally they divorced and Peter went into psycho-therapeutical help. But nowadays he's happy  and I still enjoy his early Genesis live video/dvd footage, magical and the best progrock ever delivered!
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Posted By: Evans
Date Posted: July 26 2006 at 17:44
| I have only heard Family snapshot here on PA, but i agree it's a great song. I like his vocals on it, in particular. I also listened a lot to UP a while ago, ant i must say that most songs are good to great, with the exception of Growing up, which i like even less after i saw him performing it live (on tv...). I mean, that ball-thingy and.. all that jumping.. nah. |
Posted By: Dalezilla
Date Posted: July 26 2006 at 17:46
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Gabriel's solo output is outstanding! |
Posted By: Evans
Date Posted: July 26 2006 at 17:47
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erik neuteboom wrote:Posted By: erik neuteboom
Date Posted: July 26 2006 at 17:52
| In the late Eighties when Peter his passive-agressive behaviour became a problem, many upper-middle-class UK suffer from that too. A few years ago some famous and successfull were on BBC TV and told in tears that they, despite their success, never had felt happy because of their up-bringing to hide emotions and to show you are superior and do not allow any weakness. |
Posted By: Evans
Date Posted: July 26 2006 at 18:12
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Posted By: Duncan
Date Posted: July 26 2006 at 18:21
Learn not to, because you're missing out. (And in regards to said instrumentation and technology, PG was pretty damn http://stream.qtv.apple.com/qtv/petergabriel/http/remasters/pg4l_ref.mov - cutting edge .)
Wasn't this a PG lyrical theme as early as Here Comes the Flood (and the rest of the Mozo stuff)? |
Posted By: The Lost Chord
Date Posted: July 26 2006 at 20:37
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Hahaha...dont think I can train my ears to enjoy that. Plenty would agree, and it is a matter of opinion, but there is a distinct sound tied in with most late 60's early 70's prog music, including the drumming, synth, guitar, and whatever else you want to throw in. I love it, always.
But then the 80's came and ruined almost every band i love.
But like i said i enjoy a few of the gabriel things i have seen, but just viewing your video and seeing the shoick the monkey video makes me cringe in discontempt. cant egt into it. ------------- "Only the sun knew why"
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Posted By: CryoftheCarrots
Date Posted: July 26 2006 at 21:05
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Thats unfortunate because you are denying yourself some great music.PG was one of the first artists to embrace the world music sounds.He introduced some great percussion sounds and the wonderful singer Yousou N'dour for example.By the way PG is a diagnosed bi-polar sufferer.To really experience his world music composing I would recommend his album "Passion" which was the soundtrack to The last temptation of christ movie.Brilliant. ------------- "There is a lot in this world to be tense and intense about" MJK |
Posted By: el böthy
Date Posted: July 26 2006 at 21:57
Aha...mmm, well thanks you throwing some E! into the forum...  ------------- "You want me to play what, Robert?" 
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Posted By: Liquid Len
Date Posted: July 27 2006 at 12:43
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LOVE his 1st and 2nd albums then nothing does much for me until Us and Up, which are also brilliant.
I know I must be wrong (cos everybody raves about it) but he lost me on 3. ------------- Can you tell me where my country lies? |
Posted By: Progger
Date Posted: July 27 2006 at 12:56
| The guy has been pushing musical boundaries for over 30 years. One of the most important and influential artists in modern music! Top drawer! |
Posted By: Chicapah
Date Posted: July 27 2006 at 14:08
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It's hard for me to name that many artists who have kept the quality of their work at such a high level for so many decades like Peter has. He has stayed true to himself all the way through. I recently re-viewed a concert that aired on the Disney Channel from his "US" tour in the late 80s and it still holds up extremely well. He is one of a kind and we have been fortunate to have had his music enlighten us for so long. I hope someday to see him in person. ------------- "Literature is well enough, as a time-passer, and for the improvement and general elevation and purification of mankind, but it has no practical value" - Mark Twain |
Posted By: mgallard
Date Posted: July 27 2006 at 14:25
Gabriel is one, Hackett another... hard to think of others... Mogens |
Posted By: ____VdGG____
Date Posted: July 27 2006 at 15:07
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Of his solo material, I only have III, So, Us, and Up, but I must say that Us and particularily Up are absolutely stunning albums. Us is almost world music at times featuring Manu Katche on percussion and is an album about relationships according to the liner notes. It has a lot of beautiful songs, but a couple of turds (Namely Steam) IMO, the best song on it is Only Us (with TL putting his very magical touch of gold on bass)
Up is just as beautiful, but in a different way. It is his best album and also almost stands up to his 70's era Genesis periood (but not quite) The best songs on it for me are Darkness, My Head Sounds Like That, Signal To Noise, and The Drop (the latter being the most beautiful song PG has ever written) PG as an artist has covered a massive range of sounds and styles and kept the quality up throughout 4 decades ------------- Iron throated monsters are forcing the screams; Mind and machinery box-press our dreams |
Posted By: Cristi
Date Posted: August 01 2006 at 13:12
| Peter Gabriel is an amazing musician, inspired and most important a non-comformist. The P. Gabriel era Genesis was genious (still is because people still enjoy and love the music). What else can I say? Gabriel is an artist thet never disappointed me, I love his music which is always a challenge to the one who listens.The 1969-1974 works of genesis are timeless. |
Posted By: Mongo
Date Posted: August 01 2006 at 23:42
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A true artist. ------------- "The options are ever fewer on the ground these days" Fish |
Posted By: rushfan6588
Date Posted: August 01 2006 at 23:47
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if youre looking to discover what all peter has to offer i suggest the Hit compellation...gives a solid overview of his career not only from a comercially sucessful standpoint but also songs that he personally selected as favorites ------------- If you choose not to decide you still have made a choice. |
Posted By: cuncuna
Date Posted: August 01 2006 at 23:57
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Peter Gabriel took the necessary step to avoid finding himself doing the same thing over and over again. I respect that, since a true artist is always questioning the meaning of Art. On the other hand, mr. Banks... ------------- ¡Beware of the Bee! |
Posted By: Losendos
Date Posted: August 02 2006 at 07:47
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PG has enormous artistic creativity and integrity . One of few artists not victimised by the 80s ------------- How wonderful to be so profound |
Posted By: Dragon Phoenix
Date Posted: August 02 2006 at 07:53
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My all-time favourite artist. Best albums: So, PG4, PG3, Up (all ***** for me) Best songs: Biko Blood of Eden Darkness Don't give up (with Kate Bush) Family snapshot - live Father, Son Growing up Here comes the flood I grieve In your eyes Mercy street No way out Red rain San Jacinto - live Signal to noise Sky blue Suzanne The rhythm of the heat - live Wallflower ------------- Blog this: http://artrock2006.blogspot.com |
Posted By: A B Negative
Date Posted: August 02 2006 at 11:02
| I love the first four PG albums (and Plays Live) but So isn't as interesting. Red Rain is a superb song, and I really like Sledgehammer, but I can't stand Don't Give Up. I can't remember any of the other songs, that shows how much of an impression they made. After So there hasn't been anything to get me interested again. |
Posted By: Philéas
Date Posted: August 02 2006 at 17:33
| I have only listened to Peter Gabriel's three first albums. I really like them. I have the fourth aswell, and will check it out soon. |
Posted By: Teaflax
Date Posted: August 02 2006 at 17:47
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Posted By: Raff
Date Posted: August 03 2006 at 00:58
Time for some blasphemy now... I readily admit to preferring PG's solo output to what he did with Genesis (with the exception of SEbtP, one of my all-time favourite albums). I saw him live in 1983, and he was awesome - he'd just released his fourth solo album, my favourite, which contains some of his best tracks, such as "San Jacinto" and "The Family and the Fishing Net".
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Posted By: rupert
Date Posted: August 03 2006 at 11:20
Peter is simply great, he was great with Genesis and later on, solo, though I think of his first two solo-albums as "not mature" ( I love the fourth, So, Us/Secret World Live and, especially, UP, which sums it up together ). A brilliant artist. ------------- ...I'm a musician/singer/songwriter, visit me on www.reverbnation.com/rupertlenz and there you can choose from 125 recordings you can listen to ( for free ) if you're not limited to prog-rock ! |
Posted By: Possessed
Date Posted: August 07 2006 at 12:05
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You want to know how I really feel?
Peter Gabriel peaked with Genesis on The Lamb. Everything else he did solo is OK but cannot compare with his time in Genesis.
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Posted By: GPFR
Date Posted: August 07 2006 at 12:17
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Peter Gabriel is Great! Then: Each genesis album he was with just kept getting better and better until he finaly peeked on The Lamb, my fav. Gabriel Era album. Absoulutley amazing lyrics and vocals on his part. Now: Up is an effin brilliant album! I never really cared for much else of his work, Except for PG 1/3. "Signal to Noise"=Perhaps the most Brilliant song ever! ------------- www.myspace.com/hail_peter 
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Posted By: gong
Date Posted: August 07 2006 at 13:51
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great artist Peter Gabriel is an awesome brand name now, so, very,very long time ago, he left Genesis 'cause it was nothing more than his personal band. i like old Genesis so much, of corse!,my fav is Trespass album.
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Posted By: Jmoog
Date Posted: August 07 2006 at 14:53
Unfortunatley I have to agree with this assessment. I love Peter Gabriel but with a handful of exceptions I don't think he was ever as good as a solo artist as he was with Genesis.
Just my two cents. ------------- I Adore Mellotrons |
Posted By: rupert
Date Posted: August 11 2006 at 10:20
I cannot agree, honestly, Gabriel's fourth album is very strong, as was, in a rather commercial way, SO, and UP is really a masterpiece I see up there with the old Genesis... ------------- ...I'm a musician/singer/songwriter, visit me on www.reverbnation.com/rupertlenz and there you can choose from 125 recordings you can listen to ( for free ) if you're not limited to prog-rock ! |
Posted By: Intruder
Date Posted: August 14 2006 at 04:29
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A true artist....Gabriel just keeps getting better! His latest record is as dense and deep as anything he's ever recorded. ------------- I like to feel the suspense when you're certain you know I am there..... |