Prog with sax
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Topic: Prog with sax
Posted By: Ty1020
Subject: Prog with sax
Date Posted: July 26 2006 at 02:45
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If this has been discussed before, I appologize, but I just started
playing alto sax and I want to listen to some prog with great sax to
inspire me (doesn't have to be alto - any sax will do). Doesn't matter
what genre; I just want saxophone in my music, and I want lots of it.
I'm sure there's a ton of bands out there, so I'm interested to see the
different kinds that will come up!
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Posted By: oliverstoned
Date Posted: July 26 2006 at 02:45
| Gong |
Posted By: Ty1020
Date Posted: July 26 2006 at 02:48
Any songs or albums in particular? That's actually what spurred me to start this thread - I listened to a couple of Gong songs and neither of them had any sax in them, which was kind of disappointing. ------------- http://www.last.fm/user/Ty1020/">
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oliverstoned wrote:Posted By: VanderGraafKommandöh
Date Posted: July 26 2006 at 02:49
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VdGG, Caravan, King Crimson (certain era), Robert Wyatt (again, certain era), Hawkwind, Gong, most Italian symphonic bands, Tasavallan Presidentti...
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Posted By: oliverstoned
Date Posted: July 26 2006 at 02:51
| Catapilla! |
Posted By: Zac M
Date Posted: July 26 2006 at 02:54
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Best Examples:
VdGG
Embryo Soft Machine (Third-Softs pretty much have sax on them, albeit Fourth is the best example, and then some on Land of Cockayne by Dick Morrissey)/Soft Heap/Soft Head etc... Any other Elton Dean projects
Lol Coxhill (perhaps my favorite sax player tied with Dean)
Gong (pre Pierre Moerlen 's Gong period)
IF-->feat Dick Morrissey
I'll try to think up some others. ------------- "Art is not imitation, nor is it something manufactured according to the wishes of instinct or good taste. It is a process of expression." -Merleau-Ponty |
Posted By: VanderGraafKommandöh
Date Posted: July 26 2006 at 03:01
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The Tangent.
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Posted By: Fassbinder
Date Posted: July 26 2006 at 03:06
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Van der Graaf Generator, King Crimson -- highly recommended.
Also: Gnidrolog, East of Eden, Tonton Macoute, Raw Material.
Also, you can search here in the forum for threads and polls about saxophone players where you can find plenty of the names; then to relate it to the groups. I hope it'll be helpful.
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Posted By: Australian
Date Posted: July 26 2006 at 03:08
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Posted By: Raff
Date Posted: July 26 2006 at 03:09
For a while I thought I'd read "prog with sex"....  A bad case of one-track mind? Besides the excellent recommendations you have already received, I'd like to add Camel with Mel Collins (who also plays with KC), Dick Parry's contributions to Pink Floyd's DSOTM and WYWH, and Traffic (Chris Wood RIP) - "Glad", from their "John Barleycorn Must Die" album, is one of my favourite tracks (instrumental or not) of all times. |
Posted By: Garion81
Date Posted: July 26 2006 at 03:09
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Proto-Kaw ------------- 
"What are you going to do when that damn thing rusts?" |
Posted By: oliverstoned
Date Posted: July 26 2006 at 03:09
"Camembert electrique" and the trilogy features a lot of sax, although not on all pieces. |
Posted By: Zac M
Date Posted: July 26 2006 at 03:10
Shamal too  ------------- "Art is not imitation, nor is it something manufactured according to the wishes of instinct or good taste. It is a process of expression." -Merleau-Ponty |
Posted By: The Ryan
Date Posted: July 26 2006 at 03:17
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Chicago - VII
Discipline - Unfolded Staircase
The Tangent's Career
The Flower Kings - Unfold The Future
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Posted By: BaldFriede
Date Posted: July 26 2006 at 03:23
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As to Gong: All albums of the "Radio Gnome" trilogy have sax in them,
as well as "Shamal", "Gazeuse!", "Camembert Electrique", "Magic
Brother", "Continental Circus", "Live etc.", "Gong Est Mort - Vive
Gong", "Live at Sheffield", "Live on TV" and "Live au Bataclan". Listen
to the two free mp3s in the database ("Isle of Everywhere" and "Oily
Way"); there is a lot of sax in both. Oh, and be patient with "Isle of
Everywhere"; the sax enters after about two minutes or so and has a
long solo then. -------------  BaldJean and I; I am the one in blue. |
Posted By: Man Overboard
Date Posted: July 26 2006 at 03:41
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The Flower Kings have several tracks with excellent sax.
------------- https://soundcloud.com/erin-susan-jennings" rel="nofollow - Bedroom guitarist". Composer, Arranger, Producer. Perfection may not exist, but I may still choose to serve Perfection. Commissions considered. |
Posted By: MattiR
Date Posted: July 26 2006 at 04:35
Gentle Giant
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Posted By: eloii
Date Posted: July 26 2006 at 04:41
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Gong - Magick Mother Invocation Gnidrolod - Lady Lake Hawkwind - The Golden Void Soft Machine - Out-Bloody-Rageous VDGG - MeurglysIII Circus - Movin' On, Dawn |
Posted By: Syzygy
Date Posted: July 26 2006 at 05:05
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Lots of good suggestions so far. I'd also recommend Kraan's early albums, which were recorded as a guitar/bass/alto sax/drums quartet. The 1975 Live album is a masterpiece, and Johannes Pappert used effects pedals to coax all manner of interesting sounds from his horn. ------------- 'Like so many of you I've got my doubts about how much to contribute to the already rich among us...' Robert Wyatt, Gloria Gloom |
Posted By: krring
Date Posted: July 26 2006 at 05:15
| One track which simply makes me love sax is the Gumbo Variations from Frank Zappa's Hot Rats. I'd say it's definitely worth basing your style on that. |
Posted By: Sean Trane
Date Posted: July 26 2006 at 05:27
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AKA MOON
http://www.progarchives.com/Progressive_rock_discography_BAND.asp?band_id=1312 - http://www.progarchives.com/Progressive_rock_discography_BAND.asp?band_id=1312
Jazz rock trio with a saxman as soloist. ------------- let's just stay above the moral melee prefer the sink to the gutter keep our sand-castle virtues content to be a doer as well as a thinker, prefer lifting our pen rather than un-sheath our sword |
Posted By: Tony Fisher
Date Posted: July 26 2006 at 06:12
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SOLUTION!!!!!!! Cordon Bleu and Fully Interlocking have some sax to die for. Also, Gentle Giant, Golden Earring (I think they're prog, especially Moontan), Camel with Mel Collins (Fingertips is quite amazing). |
Posted By: S Lang
Date Posted: July 26 2006 at 06:24
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I can't go past Mel Collins - as usual. He played with Camel, KC, Clannad, Bad Company, Chris Squire, Phil Manzanera, Richard Wright and countess of others.His involvement on most projects represented a highlight of the albums, often brilliantly uplifting of songs. Start with KC - Red. Yeah, Soft Machine, from "Third" and onwards. Traffic were great, too.
IF with Dick Morrissey and Colosseum with Dick Heckstall-Smith are not to be ignored either. Didier Malherbe in Gong is worthy of attention, especially when playing live.
Back Door is not on the Archives - yet. Embryo is, sometimes featuring Charlie Mariano.
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Posted By: eugene
Date Posted: July 26 2006 at 06:34
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Apart from all mentionned very well known bands, I would definitely recommend you to try following outstanding modern groups, which simply are amazing and containing lots of sax parts in their music:
Taylor's Universe with Karsten Vogel - "Experimental Health"
French TV - any
The Addison Project - "Mood swings"
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Posted By: Fassbinder
Date Posted: July 26 2006 at 06:41
| Oh, it seems that everybody's forgotten Colosseum... |
Posted By: VanderGraafKommandöh
Date Posted: July 26 2006 at 06:48
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I haven't, the late Dick Heckstall-Smith was an amazing sax player and one that people seem to forget. Although not prog, do try out: The Keef Hartley Band Their albums are full of sax and flute. -------------
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Posted By: M. B. Zapelini
Date Posted: July 26 2006 at 07:30
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Try Colosseum (not Colosseum II) with the aforementioned Dick Heckstall-Smith.
It's not prog, but you may find Mark-Almond very interesting (please do not confuse with Marc Almond, former Soft Cell vocalist - this was a band formed by Jon Mark and Johnny Almond, both from John Mayall's "The Turning Point" band). ------------- "He's a man of the past and one of the present" PETER HAMMILL |
Posted By: alan_pfeifer
Date Posted: July 26 2006 at 08:54
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Jaga Jazzist. In all seriousness, if they aren't a Fusion band then the Fusion genre is sorely missing them.
The albums A Livingroom Hush and The Stix both feature very good saxwork, as does their Magazine Ep. What we Must has decidedly less woodwinds on it, but I would still reccomend it regardless.
Naked City by John Zorn seems to have some good sax playing.
3rd, I would say look into the 2nd Miles Davis Quintet with Wayne Shorter on sax. Phenomenal material there.
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Posted By: zbida
Date Posted: July 26 2006 at 09:04
| ROXY MUSIC. A lot of Andy McKay's sax. |
Posted By: the man machine
Date Posted: July 26 2006 at 09:18
aye, that track has one of my favorite little bits of sax on it . definately worth checking out. mel collins is great on all king crimson albums especially islands. of course you cannot forget mr bungle
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Posted By: erlenst
Date Posted: July 26 2006 at 09:44
| Gnidrolog - Lady Lake is a saxfans wet dream ! And check out later Camel (Only Raindances i guess) and some King Crimson. (The track Starless for example).. Colosseum - Valentyne Suite is also a masterpiece and has a lot of awesome sax. |
Posted By: BaldFriede
Date Posted: July 26 2006 at 10:16
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Also the German bands Brainstorm and Guru Guru (around the mid 70s).
Roland Schaeffer played in both. He not only plays sax though, but also
electric guitar, on which he is equally proficient. An unusual
combination.
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Posted By: Fassbinder
Date Posted: July 26 2006 at 10:24
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BTW, Ian Anderson played sax in A Passion Play.
There is some excellent sax playing in Czeslaw Niemen albums (by different saxophonists).
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Posted By: Camel_APPeal
Date Posted: July 26 2006 at 11:47
S Lang is right, you may add The Alan Parsons Project to the Mel Collins' list; you should try the track 'Pipeline' from The Alan Parsons Project, the sax solo in there is not really complicated but is full of feeling, blending so beatifully with the orchestra in the background. ------------- 
"After all, it's music what we're talking about here, so there's no best or worst; just what you like and what you don't" |
Posted By: chamberry
Date Posted: July 26 2006 at 12:21
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I know I'm late, but http://www.progarchives.com/Progressive_rock_discography_CD.asp?cd_id=5612 - Out of focus has some very good sax play in their self titled album ------------- 
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Posted By: progmar
Date Posted: July 26 2006 at 13:54
If you like to see a really great live performance you should buy the
Van der Graaf Live DVD from 1971/1975. Especially in the song "Theme 1"
which is quite jazzy but great, you will see David Jackson even playing
two sax the same time  Here is a link to the song: http://www.youtube.com/results?search=van+der+graaf&search_type=search_videos&search=Search ------------- Music washes away from the soul the dust of every-day life. Berthold Auerbach |
Posted By: Arrrghus
Date Posted: July 26 2006 at 14:09
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"The Sleepwalkers" by VdGG has the best sax solo ever (in prog, Coltrane is a whole different story). Also try Colosseum, especially the Valentyne Suite. ------------- 
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Posted By: Fassbinder
Date Posted: July 26 2006 at 14:11
^...you will see David Jackson even playing two sax the same time 
Kind of thing David Jackson usually does.
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Posted By: Asyte2c00
Date Posted: July 26 2006 at 14:24
| Roxy Music (Andy Mackay) He's Classically Trained |
Posted By: Arrrghus
Date Posted: July 26 2006 at 15:19
I thought at first the title of the topic was "prog with sex". so then i thought...
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Posted By: Asyte2c00
Date Posted: July 26 2006 at 15:53
at first galnce, thats what I initially thought as well. Great Minds Think Alike
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Posted By: micky
Date Posted: July 26 2006 at 16:09
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Osanna - Animale Senza Respiro killer sax in that hahha ------------- The Pedro and Micky Experience - When one no longer requires psychotropics to trip |
Posted By: chessman
Date Posted: July 26 2006 at 18:20
| Some Pink Floyd (on Dark Side and Wish You Were Here) and some Steve Hackett, especially on his live archive series, ie: Live Archive 03. |
Posted By: mrgd
Date Posted: July 26 2006 at 21:07
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Definitely AUDIENCE featuring Keith Gemmell on saxes [F,F,F and H on the H esp.]
ALSO Mel Collins has been mentioned but not 21st.CENTURY SCHIZOID BAND which is the band he plays with right NOW. When you consider that Ian McDonald is also in the band you can expect excellent sax playing and that is exactly what you get, esp. to some of the early KC classics which they feature.Check them out! ------------- Looking still the same after all these years... mrgd |
Posted By: bhikkhu
Date Posted: July 26 2006 at 21:27
Oh, Yes. "Glad" is a great suggestion. One of my favorites also. But why stop there? The whole album is fantastic.
I am also going to jump on the bandwagon with VDGG, and KC. You might also want to check out Morphine. ------------- a.k.a. H.T. http://riekels.wordpress.com" rel="nofollow - http://riekels.wordpress.com |
Posted By: micky
Date Posted: July 26 2006 at 21:51
no wonder you two are amoung my favorite posters hahah.... check out 'Live at Santa Monica' for a killer live version of Glad. When I think of a classic wah-sax solo... I think of that one. ------------- The Pedro and Micky Experience - When one no longer requires psychotropics to trip |
Posted By: Fassbinder
Date Posted: July 27 2006 at 00:21
Once again: checked! Excellent!
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Posted By: RomanticWarrior
Date Posted: July 27 2006 at 01:50
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inspiration huh?...
I wouldnt say prog, since most virtuous musicians are also in the jazz/fusion gamma...i would definetely go for David Sanborn on TIGHTROPE of STEVE KHAN...you cant go wrong with that, is like Al Di Meola Meets Funk Style with beautifull sax.
There's three main paths for sax: 1: Sounding like a black saxophonist(wich if you arent black having that soul would be tough) 2 : Sounding like White wank ugly noise saxophonist(Like Elektric Band of Chick Corea) 3: Original and melodic Sounding that beats sometimes first path. Spyro Gyra also has interesting saxo soprano stuff but i would rather start with something less quiet.
Stay Classy
(David Sanborn also played with bunch of musicians, such as Phill collins)...He's just amazing
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Posted By: mrgd
Date Posted: July 31 2006 at 01:17
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TO ROMANTIC WARRIOR:
David Sanborn is unbelievably good, I agree. Particularly like VOYEUR that strangely fitted into 1980. But the thread is Prog with Sex..[whoops, I mean Prog with SAX of course-- must be that troubling Shivaree sign off that gets a man all confused!] ------------- Looking still the same after all these years... mrgd |
Posted By: DallasBryan
Date Posted: July 31 2006 at 09:52
| no mention of the 70's Munich, Germany scene, ie- Aera, Missus Beastly, Embryo, Munju, etc. THE BEST |
Posted By: bundy
Date Posted: August 01 2006 at 02:55
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King Crimson - Starless
and my favourite;
Hawkwind - Golden Void the original version on Warrior on the Edge of Time. Many of the later live versions feature synth inplace of Nik Turner's original sax. ------------- They who know do not speak! They who talk do not know! |
Posted By: Certif1ed
Date Posted: August 01 2006 at 03:00
I didn't notice any mention of Dark Side of the Moon - but I did skim read 
There's also sax in Supertramp - "It's Raining Again" and "Bloody Well Right" spring to mind. And check out Andrew Lloyd Webber's "Variations"  ------------- The important thing is not to stop questioning. |
Posted By: Big Ears
Date Posted: August 01 2006 at 05:09
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Dark Side of the Moon by Pink Floyd.
Court of the Crimson King by King Crimson.
Moontan by Golden Earring.
Double Vision by Foreigner.
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